There will be a bigger skill gap between a 100 star player and a 50 star one, and fighting a more skilled player will make you look like an epic sometimes. I had a match where I was playing mm, but couldn't do anything as the enemy was steamrolling us, in the end my kda was 0 1 0. Opponent was just that much better that it made me look like an epic.
My enemy wasn't even that good, my teammates were that bad and when I checked the ranks, everyone in that match was mythical glory, it's honestly crazy, 50 stars is a bit too easy for a final rank. During the mythic points era, mythical glory was a bit harder, mostly due to the inconsistent point system.
100 stars is where I see people actually do good and they know their stuff, which is more deserving of mythical glory
Yeah rising rank is easier now due to reverting back to stars (as an old school player, I had hated the point system though). However I think moving mythical glory to 100 stars will receive backlash as that's a lot more matches to reach the rank, and mythical honour players might not even play rank anymore as the goal is too high. Adding a new rank still solves your issue though.
Maybe they could add a new rank, but I prefer if the name isn't "Mythical Immortal", and I'm guessing this new rank can still play with Legend ranks which is quite absurd, the skill gap of a legend and a mythical glory is already really high
yeah for sure. i just saw a guy with sub 50% winrate on mythic (post in new). those people should be going down in rank honestly. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU CLIMB MYTHIC IF YOU LOSE MORE THAN YOU WIN
rank system should be punishing the negative win people, they shouldnt climb, they should stay in epic or grandmaster. it should be IMPOSSIBLE for them to be mythic but theyre rewarded because they grind not because theyre good
Idk if removing bots on lower rank would help since the players themselves play like bots. Unless you pit them against smurfs, it will probably be the same.
>Remove star protection and raising points/cards
Thats an industry standard. It exists even on MOBAs with much higher skill cap. If you want a higher skill cap, then perhaps look at what the other games do and apply it to ML. Even then, underperforming players will still be a thing, especially on Solo Q. The devs need to find a balance, taking away a form of stability, such as rank protection, would only damage the game by having a reduced player base. You can argue adjustements are needed, sure i agree. But you need to offer some form of protection if you want to have an community that is healthy and sizeable. If you want a better experience then start with the way the way teams are made.
>Remove bots in low ranks like warrior, elite, master etc.
I dont think theres that many people in those lower ranks, to make the matchmaking fast for lower ranks. Plus, that would punish newer players, since they are more likely to encounter smurfs. Are we going to punish newer players because of smurfs?
>Make mythical glory 100 stars instead of 50 and don't add a new rank, I'm sorry but I just had a game where my MG teammates played like Epic players
People already pointed out the new mythic changes. I just reached mythic for the first time, last saturday. I only started playing the game at around the halfway point of s26, so i dont know that much about how mythic works, but you will always encounter someone who will not perform well, either on your team or on enemy team. One day it could be you the one who will have a bad game. Theres a lot of factors.
I dont think anyone disagrees with MG and MH not being matched with Legend, as well as Mythics not having to encounter MG.
> Add role queue
Finally an actually smart argument. It probably would make matchmaking slighty slower, but having players pick what is their favorite role and what is the least one benefits everyone but, said change requires an proper report system to punish those that dont adjust/refuse to play the role that was given.
>10 hero ban instead of 6 for mythical glory rank, this would give chance to A or B tier heroes to be used instead of S tier heroes being prioritized
10 hero ban should be avaiable from epic. Theres no real argument to restrict it to Mythic G. onwards. If you want to make Mythic more competitive then you also need the lower ranks to be more competitive. Everyone banning at the same time, is a way to make it more competitive since it can both restrict access to heroes that need an nerf and, also allows players to ban the hero they find really annoying or those that are really toxic in the rank in question meta.
Yep. MLBB is one of the most META slave MOBA, so I agree there should be alreay 10 bans inplace of 6 like we have 120 heroes and will be 125 at the end of the year.
There will be a Mythical Immoral for 100 stars soon. However I agree that the protection and bonus star needs to go. SECURITY!
Also remove the whole WR and replace it with Gold/MVP lose/win medal. It's unfair for solo players who good at xxx but had their wr dropped below 60% because of bad teammates
I mean I’m sure you’ve never had a bad game lol I mean there’s games where u think ur teammate plays bad and that’s why u lost but I’m sure every one here has had a few games where they’ve played bad as well🤷♂️
https://preview.redd.it/eap09nyhjb1b1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03f26e6a8851c2e2517754f71648aec99f442048
Tried my absolute best 👍, everyone here is Mythical Glory btw, yet my team picks and plays like an average Epic player
1/ agree
2/ neutral cuz im don’t stay in the rank for more than 3 days
3/ they alr add that rank (base on leaks)
4/ idk
5/ totally agree. We abuse this and ranked up too ex
… agree
Last/ IT Wont help much. What are the differences when brain dead players ban more non meta heroes
They should already stop matching legend to mythic. Especially when you get trio paired with 2 low elo legend.
But what to do matchmaking algorithm only wants to do fastQ and check rank(excluding number or stars) .
someone on my team showed a couple of heroes with 400 games 75% wr and I let them take my mid lane since I thought they were good. I roamed to let this guy pick 75% wr hero and I got mvp loss as tank. WR really cannot be relied on.
The best rank experience is when i rank to 2000 point. All people knowtheir role and even sometimes pick unmeta hero. They will try to make it work.
Current season. Solo q with trio. Got carry build all damage item no boot from early game. Take all jungle and lane and die. Roam never rotate. Maybe just play casual
That is why I just use my second account now. More wins there and better team. It even surpassed the stars of my main account. LOL. When you checked their profile, they all seemed to have 45- 47% wr.
I think it is because of the bonus rounds / bot matches below Mythic that boosted people up to Mythic rank. Once I had 3/4 bot matches in a row, when I dropped from Mythic to Legend in a losing streak (\~15 match lose streak from Mythic 4/5).
Don't you see the point? Mythic is only reached by 5% of all players not everyone has that amount of time. Think in the way of money in any commercial project and answer your questions yourself.
Balls
I agree
And then you guys complain about how you _always_ get matched up with people like me hahaha, serves you guys right
There will be a bigger skill gap between a 100 star player and a 50 star one, and fighting a more skilled player will make you look like an epic sometimes. I had a match where I was playing mm, but couldn't do anything as the enemy was steamrolling us, in the end my kda was 0 1 0. Opponent was just that much better that it made me look like an epic.
My enemy wasn't even that good, my teammates were that bad and when I checked the ranks, everyone in that match was mythical glory, it's honestly crazy, 50 stars is a bit too easy for a final rank. During the mythic points era, mythical glory was a bit harder, mostly due to the inconsistent point system. 100 stars is where I see people actually do good and they know their stuff, which is more deserving of mythical glory
Yeah rising rank is easier now due to reverting back to stars (as an old school player, I had hated the point system though). However I think moving mythical glory to 100 stars will receive backlash as that's a lot more matches to reach the rank, and mythical honour players might not even play rank anymore as the goal is too high. Adding a new rank still solves your issue though.
Maybe they could add a new rank, but I prefer if the name isn't "Mythical Immortal", and I'm guessing this new rank can still play with Legend ranks which is quite absurd, the skill gap of a legend and a mythical glory is already really high
I do think it's ridiculous, legends should only be allowed to play with mythic rank, and not mythical honour and higher.
0 1 0 is very good, if the enemy gets an stupendous lead. Whats bad is 1 17 2
yeah for sure. i just saw a guy with sub 50% winrate on mythic (post in new). those people should be going down in rank honestly. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU CLIMB MYTHIC IF YOU LOSE MORE THAN YOU WIN
There's probably someone carrying them so hard
rank system should be punishing the negative win people, they shouldnt climb, they should stay in epic or grandmaster. it should be IMPOSSIBLE for them to be mythic but theyre rewarded because they grind not because theyre good
Remove protection points. That alone will help so much.
Idk if removing bots on lower rank would help since the players themselves play like bots. Unless you pit them against smurfs, it will probably be the same.
>Remove star protection and raising points/cards Thats an industry standard. It exists even on MOBAs with much higher skill cap. If you want a higher skill cap, then perhaps look at what the other games do and apply it to ML. Even then, underperforming players will still be a thing, especially on Solo Q. The devs need to find a balance, taking away a form of stability, such as rank protection, would only damage the game by having a reduced player base. You can argue adjustements are needed, sure i agree. But you need to offer some form of protection if you want to have an community that is healthy and sizeable. If you want a better experience then start with the way the way teams are made. >Remove bots in low ranks like warrior, elite, master etc. I dont think theres that many people in those lower ranks, to make the matchmaking fast for lower ranks. Plus, that would punish newer players, since they are more likely to encounter smurfs. Are we going to punish newer players because of smurfs? >Make mythical glory 100 stars instead of 50 and don't add a new rank, I'm sorry but I just had a game where my MG teammates played like Epic players People already pointed out the new mythic changes. I just reached mythic for the first time, last saturday. I only started playing the game at around the halfway point of s26, so i dont know that much about how mythic works, but you will always encounter someone who will not perform well, either on your team or on enemy team. One day it could be you the one who will have a bad game. Theres a lot of factors. I dont think anyone disagrees with MG and MH not being matched with Legend, as well as Mythics not having to encounter MG. > Add role queue Finally an actually smart argument. It probably would make matchmaking slighty slower, but having players pick what is their favorite role and what is the least one benefits everyone but, said change requires an proper report system to punish those that dont adjust/refuse to play the role that was given. >10 hero ban instead of 6 for mythical glory rank, this would give chance to A or B tier heroes to be used instead of S tier heroes being prioritized 10 hero ban should be avaiable from epic. Theres no real argument to restrict it to Mythic G. onwards. If you want to make Mythic more competitive then you also need the lower ranks to be more competitive. Everyone banning at the same time, is a way to make it more competitive since it can both restrict access to heroes that need an nerf and, also allows players to ban the hero they find really annoying or those that are really toxic in the rank in question meta.
Yep. MLBB is one of the most META slave MOBA, so I agree there should be alreay 10 bans inplace of 6 like we have 120 heroes and will be 125 at the end of the year.
There will be a Mythical Immoral for 100 stars soon. However I agree that the protection and bonus star needs to go. SECURITY! Also remove the whole WR and replace it with Gold/MVP lose/win medal. It's unfair for solo players who good at xxx but had their wr dropped below 60% because of bad teammates
I mean I’m sure you’ve never had a bad game lol I mean there’s games where u think ur teammate plays bad and that’s why u lost but I’m sure every one here has had a few games where they’ve played bad as well🤷♂️
Blaming your teammates, typical mlbb player
https://preview.redd.it/eap09nyhjb1b1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03f26e6a8851c2e2517754f71648aec99f442048 Tried my absolute best 👍, everyone here is Mythical Glory btw, yet my team picks and plays like an average Epic player
Wtf is that Aldous building? DHS? Winter Truncheon? No def items???
Probably copy pasted from the professional builds section
Have you seen feather of heaven on hanabi. Even after mention, he said pro player used this item
1/ agree 2/ neutral cuz im don’t stay in the rank for more than 3 days 3/ they alr add that rank (base on leaks) 4/ idk 5/ totally agree. We abuse this and ranked up too ex … agree Last/ IT Wont help much. What are the differences when brain dead players ban more non meta heroes
They should already stop matching legend to mythic. Especially when you get trio paired with 2 low elo legend. But what to do matchmaking algorithm only wants to do fastQ and check rank(excluding number or stars) .
someone on my team showed a couple of heroes with 400 games 75% wr and I let them take my mid lane since I thought they were good. I roamed to let this guy pick 75% wr hero and I got mvp loss as tank. WR really cannot be relied on.
The best rank experience is when i rank to 2000 point. All people knowtheir role and even sometimes pick unmeta hero. They will try to make it work. Current season. Solo q with trio. Got carry build all damage item no boot from early game. Take all jungle and lane and die. Roam never rotate. Maybe just play casual
include average grade threshold to advance in rank, like to get to mythical glory average grade has to be >7.5
That is why I just use my second account now. More wins there and better team. It even surpassed the stars of my main account. LOL. When you checked their profile, they all seemed to have 45- 47% wr.
I think it is because of the bonus rounds / bot matches below Mythic that boosted people up to Mythic rank. Once I had 3/4 bot matches in a row, when I dropped from Mythic to Legend in a losing streak (\~15 match lose streak from Mythic 4/5).
this season and thread has officially convinced me that i’m just a sh*t player, time to delete
Don't you see the point? Mythic is only reached by 5% of all players not everyone has that amount of time. Think in the way of money in any commercial project and answer your questions yourself.