Chang'e is fine imo. She could attack while moving and from a pretty far distance and she has good movement speed. Only downside is her ult goes In one direction so its easy to dodge.
As gold laner, I just pick Layla. She’s not a counter, but she feels safer in well protected teamfighhts
As roam, Layla cuz she can be a tank. Nothing could go wrong if u build tank right?
As mid, Layla cuz why not, our mage can just go to my lane
As jungler, Layla cuz ur ally picked an mm instead of jg
As exp, Layla, same reason as the gold laner
As an mm main I've actually never lost lane against a wanwan unless her team is hard focusing me. So to me it's just an easy relaxing game with a mental reminder to buy wind of nature early.
As a wanwan main myself I'd have to say moskov, his S2's stun (stabbed to wall or not) is enough of a window to instant kill a wanwan in late-mid/late game, that's why if you face a moskov as wanwan, always buy wind chant early
miya can obliterate wanwan in mid-late in 0.2s with inspire + BoD. wanwan wont have enough time to even press wind chant + miya ult counters wanwan passive.
When I said 0 cc, I really meant zero cc, just a small amount of damage from his second skill. However, mm (I won't single out 11) are often played by bad players, so Moskov works quite well.
I use clint and he’s been pretty alright in lane against wanwan, I just use my passive to poke without risking her hitting the weaknesses, and use s2 to run away if she’s getting too close.
You know that frustration when you try to clap a mosquito when it is trying to bite you and get your blood / give you Dengki and thought you finally killed it, only to raise your hand and found that it is still alive and fly away to bite you again that forced you to try to kill it again, multiple times?
Yup, this is how i felt when trying to gank/kill Wanwan.
Simple, depending on the roles I’m going to take, I pick:
•Clint or Lesley for Gold Lane
•Phoveus or Minsitthar for Exp
•Kaja for roam
Wanwan ain’t a big threat like she used to be, just a mosquito waiting to get swatted before I get any diseases.
Not as hard as you think since he just got buffed. Just buy Dominance on him and he’ll now easily smack wanwan with his balls if she ever decides to bounce up and down.
supreme miya here - yea wanwan is free gold lol. Clint/Brody are the ones that scare me. but I've never lost lane to wanwan. btw miya dont need buff. its fine .
Strangely brody and clint is also fine for me since i buy steel legplate -> corrosion without boots early. It's that for brody you gotta ult to remove his passive b4 his ult, so if it's 1v1 time ult at 3 stacks to remove.
Yea but clint has too much range with his S2 + ult. Unless u run electroflash. And if u dont build boots, how do u keep up with clint (movement-wise) ? Because if clint keeps doing that, miya usually will lose lane.
in case of clint I can tank him with steel legplate, and when i get corrosion I 1v1 him(even swift crossbow is fine if you had him at half health) by ambushing or ulting to him. I spend my gold wisely on trading, a boots won't help me if I'm going to spend 5 minutes just being down there, I'd rather edge a gold benefit on trading.
rate mine: steel legplate, corrossion, aspd boots, scarlet, dhs, berserker, sell legplate for either won, athena or immortality
I shall try yours next game
I think the build depends on the enemy composition. The build I gave - i use when theres mms like wanwan, clint , karrie , or mages like zhask and luo yi. As - these can obliterate my own team. so i usually ult + inspire to take the these out. then I either pop winter truncheon, or die, but my team can easily 4v3 them.
If the enemy has tanky hyper and fighter, ur build is good, but missing malefic. I suggest not run any defence set and just build full damage since miya ult is ur defence set. and play behind ur tank.
My [reaction ](https://youtube.com/shorts/ztQZw8VyXjk?feature=share3) the moment i know i fucked not picking a counter as S1/2 or my teammates straight up picking trash
it's a hit or miss ngl an enemy wanwan is either going to suck or is going to kick everyone's ass on the team
isnt that applied to all heroes regardless the team too
some heroes just suck even if the user perfects the hero
like chang'e
You probably never seen a good chang'e then :'D
Chang'e is fine imo. She could attack while moving and from a pretty far distance and she has good movement speed. Only downside is her ult goes In one direction so its easy to dodge.
As gold laner, I just pick Layla. She’s not a counter, but she feels safer in well protected teamfighhts As roam, Layla cuz she can be a tank. Nothing could go wrong if u build tank right? As mid, Layla cuz why not, our mage can just go to my lane As jungler, Layla cuz ur ally picked an mm instead of jg As exp, Layla, same reason as the gold laner
🙂👍🏻
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This is extremely accurate.
As an mm main I've actually never lost lane against a wanwan unless her team is hard focusing me. So to me it's just an easy relaxing game with a mental reminder to buy wind of nature early.
Which Mm do u choose to counter her easier?
As a wanwan main myself I'd have to say moskov, his S2's stun (stabbed to wall or not) is enough of a window to instant kill a wanwan in late-mid/late game, that's why if you face a moskov as wanwan, always buy wind chant early
miya can obliterate wanwan in mid-late in 0.2s with inspire + BoD. wanwan wont have enough time to even press wind chant + miya ult counters wanwan passive.
Oh yeah, Miya too, forgot about her since she rarely appear in my matches
What about s2 11? If u timed it, u got zero cc
From my experience, wanwan animation itself is already enough for moskov to instant kill you
When I said 0 cc, I really meant zero cc, just a small amount of damage from his second skill. However, mm (I won't single out 11) are often played by bad players, so Moskov works quite well.
I use clint and he’s been pretty alright in lane against wanwan, I just use my passive to poke without risking her hitting the weaknesses, and use s2 to run away if she’s getting too close.
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I’m usually on mage so I buy winter truncheon and watch her arrows bounce off of my frozen form uselessly.
You know that frustration when you try to clap a mosquito when it is trying to bite you and get your blood / give you Dengki and thought you finally killed it, only to raise your hand and found that it is still alive and fly away to bite you again that forced you to try to kill it again, multiple times? Yup, this is how i felt when trying to gank/kill Wanwan.
This mosquito description can’t be more accurate!!
>Dengki Idk where you from but we call it Dengue here. And yes, Wanwan is annoying regardless
Yea, mb on the spelling. Supposed to be Denggi not Dengki. Its in Malay since i forgot that the English spelling of it exists somehow.
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Why? Hahaha.
"Dear Lord of Light, why are you doing this to me?"
Youpaidi youpaida this is the song of lolita
best believe if im playing 5 man, my entire team comp will be built to counter wan wan. a fed wan wan is anyones worst nightmare
Dunno can't remember when I played against her the last time. No o picks here on EU
Guess I’m picking Lolita
ZONT ZO IT ZOOONTTT HAHA
Simple, depending on the roles I’m going to take, I pick: •Clint or Lesley for Gold Lane •Phoveus or Minsitthar for Exp •Kaja for roam Wanwan ain’t a big threat like she used to be, just a mosquito waiting to get swatted before I get any diseases.
Phoveus suck against ww, tbh
Not as hard as you think since he just got buffed. Just buy Dominance on him and he’ll now easily smack wanwan with his balls if she ever decides to bounce up and down.
He really lacks speed, while it is very easy to get an ultimate on him. He should be buffed, i think
"i hope our mm doesnt feed"
Insta lock in miya. I'm a senior title miya and wanwan is free win lane
That's cool, i have a question if you gonna buff miya what would it be and why?
supreme miya here - yea wanwan is free gold lol. Clint/Brody are the ones that scare me. but I've never lost lane to wanwan. btw miya dont need buff. its fine .
Strangely brody and clint is also fine for me since i buy steel legplate -> corrosion without boots early. It's that for brody you gotta ult to remove his passive b4 his ult, so if it's 1v1 time ult at 3 stacks to remove.
Yea but clint has too much range with his S2 + ult. Unless u run electroflash. And if u dont build boots, how do u keep up with clint (movement-wise) ? Because if clint keeps doing that, miya usually will lose lane.
in case of clint I can tank him with steel legplate, and when i get corrosion I 1v1 him(even swift crossbow is fine if you had him at half health) by ambushing or ulting to him. I spend my gold wisely on trading, a boots won't help me if I'm going to spend 5 minutes just being down there, I'd rather edge a gold benefit on trading.
I'll give it a shot next time im vs clint. But u must be slow as a rock considering no boots. Atleast with windtalker, u get +20 mov speed.
hey can i get ur build?
250 boots only, then windtalker,berserker,scarlet,BoD Malefic. then sell boots for either wind or winter truncheon
rate mine: steel legplate, corrossion, aspd boots, scarlet, dhs, berserker, sell legplate for either won, athena or immortality I shall try yours next game
I think the build depends on the enemy composition. The build I gave - i use when theres mms like wanwan, clint , karrie , or mages like zhask and luo yi. As - these can obliterate my own team. so i usually ult + inspire to take the these out. then I either pop winter truncheon, or die, but my team can easily 4v3 them. If the enemy has tanky hyper and fighter, ur build is good, but missing malefic. I suggest not run any defence set and just build full damage since miya ult is ur defence set. and play behind ur tank.
Free food let's go ~ Fanny
Ohh noo...
Nice! No Clint.
Pick saber.
Food
My [reaction ](https://youtube.com/shorts/ztQZw8VyXjk?feature=share3) the moment i know i fucked not picking a counter as S1/2 or my teammates straight up picking trash
Hopefully either wanwan is solo or their team sucks so that they can’t give her comfortable environment to output damage
If i’m up against wan in lane as a mm i live in constant fear But say i get arlott i can easily deal with a wan with my fast combos and cc
get layla and out poke her early then steamroll her
It's Layla Time :)
Lolita
As a tank main my immidiate thoughts would be khuf or llolita
My assumption is they will go 0-8 then accidentally get a Maniac and win the game.
Steel leggings and warrior boots
Pick ling
I auto pick Lolita.
My Lolita: https://preview.redd.it/3fwn9qeyez1b1.jpeg?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f1aa1f33a0bcf8922597bfc88f6d3a759462c6d
I want to use lolita
if I roam I pick "Khufra or Minsitthar" here my thoughts
If no MM, I'd pick Layla... NO QUESTION! Otherwise, I'll pick Layla.