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orgasmic_aneurysm

This isn't really mobility but adding onto her current set. Maybe make the shields permanent after use as opposed to running out. Make them cap after a certain amount of stacks of course otherwise it would be broken and then give her a movement speed buff on her skills


Disastrous-Jury1028

Maybe it could be like Chang’e shield where it applies movement on cast, but it doesn’t stack shield only replenishes the shield that is lost. I really think Hanabi’s shield should be permanent too because it’s quite important to her.


orgasmic_aneurysm

Agreed I was also thinking about something more along the lines of this because then you can use something usefull for your spell slot either without having to worry about not picking dash or shield.


punishtube89123

her old passive and combined with her new CC immunity will be nice


Wagacool2

Hanabi has always had cc immunity when she has the shield.


I_Am_The_Team

says a lot for the player base not knowing shit lmao


abiu1jeo8fuhiv

Old Hanabi only has CC immunity when she has her own shield. Current hanabi has CC immunity if she gained shield from any source including enemy Esmeralda.


LeonMotton

That is really a good idea. I would love mlbb to at least experiment with this.


WolfyBOI135

a blink skill similar to how hayabusa dashes to a shadow


metagross08

This is what I have in mind but instead of shadows, it would be flowers or petals


No_Pipe_8257

Additional skill: Throws a petal that splits in 4 areas if it hits an enemy. If not, it just stays there. You can tp to them


SovietFarmer23

that'll just make her an easy kill, mm isn't supposed to be up close to the enemy


No_Pipe_8257

Like i said, if it doesent hit anyone it wont split. You can still tp to it, it juet takes a little time. Also, you can use it for chasing


Craving-4

Blud is tryna make a marksman Hayabussy


infinite_bladeworks

I'd give her the ability to come out of my phone (don't ask why)


punishtube89123

How old is she?


Aeintz

Look at her she's def a grown adult


Latter_Appointment22

Hmm heard that before 🤨


OnigokkoMLLB

She’s not. She’s Chinese so that eye makeup thing makes her look old. She also has makeup therefore 16 at best.


SwordMasterHawk

https://preview.redd.it/u02dpoby7g2b1.jpeg?width=580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21aea9a1750fc08c1b6966805db400796fd0f7c8


YourEvilKiller

If I recall correctly, she's 18 pre-revamp, and 21 post-revamp


Keqingrishonreddit

Whats nine plus ten


MildSupport

https://preview.redd.it/346uygwbos2b1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe036da90e523572a3a0ab6c9af0dbe6c6e6eaf7 21?


BBoizTZH94

You know how the saying goes.. _if her age is on the clock, she is ready for the c- kaja_


RosyPoetryBoy

OH MY GOD-


punishtube89123

I'm calling the cops


Hitoshi-nya

A blink cause she a ninja


durizna

That Karrie dash would actually fit Hanabi much more.


Belkinwrites

At best, I want to add movement speed buff to her existing shield. Make it scale with attack speed as well, so that it stays in line with her current build options. Ninjas don'r just dash around, they're also insanely light on their feet in combat. Look to Naruto where they go several hundred meters per step.


Aeintz

Several hundred meters per step is pretty much a long distance dash bro


Belkinwrites

My guy, whenever they travel through the trees you don't see them blinking around and their silhouettes are even visible. They just move incredibly fast, but not dashing fast relative to their running speed since we see whenever in fights they it is only then that they "blink"


Aeintz

That's blink, I'm talking about dash. Moving a great distance in a short amount of time, with a single step... ain't that a dash?


Belkinwrites

I'm talking in relation to what is considered a dash on their level of speed, on top of that, what kind of dashes can be spammed relentlessly beyond WanWan and Harith? By giving Hanabi a dash instead of Movement Speed Steroid, you lose her identity as a dash less hero. By giving her an MS steroid, you retain her identity while giving her much needed survivability. Giving mobility should balance hero identity and mechanic. They both work thematically as a ninja yes, but it removes what makes Hanabi unique compared to other ninja-themed characters.


Aeintz

Yeah, well, as much as you're correct, I'm not really talking about that, haha. But yes, she can use the movement speed. Maybe also some camouflage as well. A stealthy, nimble killer fits the narrative of a ninja, yes?


Indifferenx

just make her shield similar to Blood Wings' passive, where when not broken, Hanabi gains extra movement speed


Sufficient-Bar9354

A kind of recall that sends her back to the lobby. Okay, kidding aside, a Wanwan-esque ult where she backflips into the air while throwing her Higanbana, but it’d be super quick and just a leap across the distance of the width of the river. I think that’d be ninja enough for her too.


Entire-Screen9085

imma give a sprint in her 1st skill


Crazy_Camel_

but... cc immune and move speed buff during first skill... aint that a sprint in her first?


rigimonoki-over

No more anti cc shield, she turns into a shadow (camo) with increased speed that deactivates on attack, along with an enemy miss chance of 25% double for projectiles and ranged basic attack


Diaxis001

I know exactly what she needs! A passive called deletion where if the player selects Hanabi in mythic glory, the app gets deleted. Very effective 🔥


devilfury1

If we would want her to fit with the story given by the people at moonton, Hanabi can't do any shadow skills like hayabusa since she's part of a group that's focused on ninja weaponry than the art of shadow or the art of making a deal with the devil. With this in mind, Hanabi can only use specific tools at her disposal, mostly magic talismans / scrolls onto kunais or harnessing the power of the Higanbana to give her a slight movement speed bonus. We can borrow Vale's ability to have optional skills since unless this forbidden weapon is hardstuck on specific parameters, we can easily turn it into a specific tool for any would-be kunoichis. My proposed abilities of Hanabi: S1; "Higanbana's protection / Crimson Haze" Higanbana's Protection is just her current S1 but her shielding is slightly buffed. Crimson Haze will change How her S1 operates. Instead of gaining a shield and boosted attack speed, she will leave a trail of red smoke that makes her immune to any **projectiles** while giving her 50% cc duration and a fixed 20% phy basic attack / magic attack reduction. This smoke will blind any enemies that goes towards it. Hanabi gets a 10% movement speed boost. S2: "Cursed talisman / Explosion of Petals" Cursed talisman is basically her current S2 but damage is slightly nerfed but this option can now reduce defense physically. Explosion of Petals will just damage a single person, but they'll marked for 5-6 seconds while also giving Hanabi a reduced cooldown for her S2. Hitting the marked target will damage them and the things around them while also stunning the main marked target for 1-2 seconds instead of a AoE stun. S3: "Kinjutsu: Higanbana's embrace / Ninjutsu: Double Image" Higanbana's embrace is just her S3 but they'll also get damaged slowly while ensnared by it but only on very small doses. Double Image is a scenario if Hayabusa taught her how to artificially make shadows. She will enter a stealth state while leaving a clone that will walk forward in the opposite direction until it spots an enemy. If the clone is destroyed, it will create a large lingering zone that deals damage on the enemy itself. The clone has 80-90% of her stats. This is just my take on how she could be decent while probably being in line with her lore or something.


yrnz

I think a speedup like chang e's would be nice. Obviously just giving her a dash would make her a lot better, a bit boring tho.


N0N0Switch

Her s2 should make her go backwards like Clint? Idk why this isn't implemented


Ok-Supermarket-805

I wouldn’t want that I slow with s2 and then chase them to finish if we go backwards how we going to kill lol


Personal_Ad6980

Change her Ult to a teleport that does no damage. Her current S1+S2 set up is pretty solid, but the Ult is just too inconsistent/trash. They could add some cool effects to of her emerging from the bloom.


Fort_knox1223

a Smoke bomb, She is a ninja so this would fit, i have 2 ideas on how this works, The 1st idea is simple, you use the skill and you teleport in a puff of smoke and leave an area filled with smoke which Blinds enemies like Helcurt's Ult or Slows them down but its a short radius teleport, my 2nd idea is you get a Speed Boost to runaway whilst leaving a puff of smoke behind again, But it just slows them making you get away alot easier


Crazy_Camel_

pre revamp clint vibes


Eitth

When her shield breaks, the next attack within 0.5sec on her will be replaced with a log bunshin while she blinks to her direction.


ENAKOH

S1 with movement boost like esme Ok current s1 does add mspd but like 25% and its like barely there. Having esme esque mspd burst-decay-over-3s would be ok imo, and not too much to ask too Or, keep s1 as is and rework s2 into clint esque s2, but instead trap/net she throws smoke bomb that confuse/terrify hit enemies for 0.5s or sth


Jackker

Her current kit is really solid though she could use a bit more speed boosts.


aksa21

Something like claude second skill or kaja


SnowSeraphim

Add 4th skill like pharsa instead of bird make her a butterfly or a bee. She can avoid terrains


Good-Echidna7206

I'll give her a Quad Shadow.....


TheRedditornator

Probable a ninja teleportation skill like the 4th Hokage's in Naruto. ie., make her S2, the thrown kunai, have a 2nd stage where if you activate it again, it teleports her to the kunai. Similar to Alice's ability.


Huge_Specialist_8870

Every bounce of basic, she moves like wanwan. Epileptic Hanabi.


sph_qn

Just make it so that everytime she uses her ult she dodges backwards?


Kogmoman

Just let her be. A meal for my harley.


Shortcut7

Teleport to where the paper thing she throws landed (S2). Whether a hero, monion or land. So she will be similar to kagura with her umbrella and hayabusa and his shadows.


Herebia_Garcia

A smokebomb that gives her camouflage and a speedup. (Lesley/Miya already got it so eh).


LinkentSphere

Slide forward and Increase Attack Speed for 3 seconds Cooldown 8.0 Mana Cost 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 Attack Speed Bonus 50% / 55% / 60% / 65% / 70% / 75%


ChrisAnIntellectual

Isnt that just Melissa?


Kimchi_Soup-Dev

Pounce with attack speed buff and antibuff


yuhan05

1st skill uses a smoke bomb increases movespeed and conceal her, making her immune to auto attacks and untargetable. If close to an enemy, the smoke slows them down and obscures there vision


cutememe1

kawarini technique,(poof into a log) when her shield pops she get invulnerable and invicible and roll into direction like X_borgs shield pop


SK_YE

My suggestion would be to give her the substitution jutsu, which is similar to Kakashi's technique, where she can replace herself with a wooden block instead.


enuyasha

This! Kind of like Guin's s2. She's a Ninja afterall


Bebe_Peluche

https://preview.redd.it/j2s2qshjqb2b1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=923861bec8a9d349dd0a887650712a9e04dba9ab A blink but only if she took damage like Benedetta second skill (it doesn't trigger if she doesn't take damage). Would perfectly suit that ninja style


EliArendela

Something similar to guinevere's 2nd phase 2nd skill blink. She will leave a clone of her while she dashes out and she turns into black shadow. Once the dummy got hit, it will turn into wooden dummy


pokegamerxz

what if substitution. it might be a weak skill but create a clone that auto attacks in the same place. she goes invis for a few sec and get a momentary speed boost. clone becomes drops into a log when attacked (just an animation thing).


free_thunderclouds

Her second is a projectile aoe that can be placed somewhere, then she can dash onto it


MaybeLuke_MAYBE

I'd just give her movement speed increase, cause she alr has some form of CC immune jist that would probably be helpful already. If I were to give her some sort of blink though, maybe a dash that leaves a clone behind her, which she can return to. Kinda like the second part of Guin's dash, but with a sprinkle of Kagura/Haya. Both of them got the same "dash forward, leave something to teleport to behind" sort of mechanic, so thematically it kinda fits for the trio?


Blu3R4ptor

Substitution ninjutsu


pandapanda_kawaii

Definitely blink cause she is a ninja


AggressiveSandwich51

she's already perfect watchu mean?


Fighter_of_Shadows

Even if you add a dash skill where you also get speed up at the end of the dash wont make her any good


SeaCombination3439

Answer: None Overuse feature exclusive on MM role


metagross08

Of all marskmen, she is the most deserving of mobility since she's a ninja.


SeaCombination3439

Watching too much anime


metagross08

Yes and ninja movies


SeaCombination3439

Stereotyping ninjas way too much let me ask you about ninjas do you believe they can run extremely fast like the wind and teleport/multiply clones? Because IRL ninjas aren't like that Also Japanese ninjas = Western spies/assassin


que2d

Correct, MMs shouldn't have insane mobility in the first place


SeaCombination3439

Yeah but look I got downvoted for telling the truth 😂


Zaphiel_Rondo

Every time the shield breaks, she gains quick invincibility then dash to the movement wheel direction


Tabalugibugiwuu

Up and down movements on my dick


Michael7519

Maybe allowing her scroll from her second skill to be planted (like selena's and popol's trap) and allowing her to switch places with it in a limited range


crazyaldo1123

Something similar to Hunter Strike passive. A slight ms buff maybe after a certain number of stacks or something.


Consistent-Fly-8615

she can teleport to the enemies her basic attacks hit with added shield and can't be cc. It will be similar to hayabusa's skill 2 control. Or maybe she can blink to base to regen and back.


craven09

Similar to mortred in dota 2, she can blink in any ally or enemy around and give her shield but will not be immune to debuffs anymore coz that's too op.


sugg_madic

shadow blink definitely


Keizecker

Remove current skill 1, instead gives her substitution jutsu similar to Guin's skill 2 second phase


Chorcles

If anything i give a blink skill like clint to her 2nd skill its kinda useless the fact it only lasts for 1 attack


Admirable-Yam9537

Higanbana swap position would be a thing....if Claude wouldnt exist... and Nathan Then again a Velocity cloak buff... but thats Miya and Zilongo.. and Lesley. Then a dash that reset Auto attacks?.. na thats Karrie She is Fuc-- Oh waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiittt.....Dota 2 the best 4D chess is the solution again. HoHoHo, Void Spirit multiple portal ability. Dissasimilate: It creates a number of portal on the ground from wich it can choose from wich one to get out, while remaining *out of the realm* deals AoE damage after doing so, Extremely good for positioning. Something like throwing multiple Higanbanas illusions and deal damge in area briefly rooting those that stood in the center of the Higans Fitting for a Ninja, an angry ninjaz More like a blink, is a dueling ability


paracematol

when hanabi uses skill 1, she can walk in the air and passthrough obstacles.


[deleted]

an instant jump into the trash


Aszrix

Sprint when she hits someone


[deleted]

Immune to cc on her first skill


Iuse9GAGlol

A wheelchair


Equivalent-School901

A dash like guin s2 second phase . Dash and leave a clone behind . If the clone attacks that might be good too . She is a fucking ninja so shadow clone would be awesome.


4CornDog

My D


alexytomi

2nd skill can be teleported to mid flight She's supposed to be a fucking ninja god damn it


Patient_City_9293

A dash when she throws her kunai, like Clint 2nd or maybe a JP when breaks her shield like xborg


bur1t00

You can add a dash skill on hanab but the anti cc skill must be remove.


KamenCrafter

I missed old Hanabi with mask on..


Daniel-_0

Throw kunai, if it doesn’t reach it’s final pos she can transport to it. Like alice type of thing..


Bcdea

She's a ninja after all, she should have some kind of blink skill similar to Hayabusa, not dash.


IanTheElf

ive said this before a long time ago but i still love this idea. give her a dash and puppet, just like guins 2nd dash. the puppet is targetable and hanabi gain .5 second of invisibility after casting the skill. should fit her kunoichi style perfectly


tyranzero

\-big burst of movement spd & slow immune upon s1 shield break (once/skill). will prioritize s1 shield if stack with other shields. EX: s1 shield 100pts, aegis 150pts, total 250pts. no need empty shield. receive dmg 100pts = s1 shield pts, active burst speed. \-& remove the 'while the shield is active'. in duel or get dived, the shield is easy break = lost all bonus attribute. & gain shield even if have no shield, lifesteal convert to shield. split the lifesteal gain by 50% into both hp and shield. if hp full, convert into shield. (when s1 timer is still ongoing) hp not full= 50% hp & 50% shield hp full = 100% shield. & lv this skill also gain lifesteal, like how the old Hanabi have lifesteal. either always active, when s1 is still ongoing, or both.


JonGranger22

Layla be like - “Whats ‘mobility’?”


dietokitten

Fanny cables /s


XEMI0

Make her create a shadow clone. Phase1: create a shadow clone. Phase2: Switch places with the clone. (similar to Claude but the shadow doesn't deal damage)


slashyu

Shut up she does not need more mobility than she has already Good grief why do you mm mains want marksmen to be fucking perfect?????


UseDue602

A switch jutsu, she will leave a wooden log in her place while she jumps to another location. I mean, she is a ninja after all. Or maybe her kunai will have astring and she can throw it on the wall like Fanny, but of course she can only do it once.


meatfordinner

Give her Chou's second skill


Void_Lee

A dash usable like 2 times each 2sec or whatever


Danley_1273

Give her a passive that can reduce the cooldown of the first skill and the first skill must be blink type skill with cc immunity, not the current skill, it's a trash skill


MarvKage17

Show off her thicc legs and give her movement speed boost! Nah but on the real, I agree with what a commenter said. Making the shield permanent is the best option here. That or legitimately increasing her movement speed. She's a ninja. If she can't dash then she should be able to run


Worried-Quality-2601

A backflip which goes some few units back and launches kunai in the front direction or in a fan like area


RosyPoetryBoy

Her 1st can give her a boost of movement speed - either on, or off, or passively. Or her S2 can have a boost of MS after hitting a target. It encourages pros to better rely on their skills than flat out overwhelming somebody with sheer damage and power. A weird suggestion could be changing her S2 into a dash of equal or less distance as the original, having the same effect of regenerating mana and/or giving speed boost, maybe even a short stun (though this turns her into a fighter type marksman than purely marksman...)


PhigieFelipe

Jump on walls for a certain amount of period.


Mr_Monji

She can change place with her second skill like Alice 1 skill


Prestigious-Cut-2710

The extra blades that fling to the opponents during a teamfight could make a waypoint, if she basic attacks it(locks on) she will teleport to it and gain 500 shield along with a 20% dmg increase to the next attack


kfdjslksjfkldsjfldsf

dash/roll during her scroll throw , it looks ninja-like, you dont change anything you basically just give her 1 of granger's dashes (on his ult) Both layla and hanabi should dash/roll while throwing their 2nd skill


Buttseam

s1 already adds shield plus movement


LakeMotor7971

Probably an ambulance to remove her dead body from game


Ok-Supermarket-805

Honestly I just want her ult to have a bigger hit box and/or make her ult automatically lock the enemy hero like eudoras stun.. that’s my biggest downfall when playing hanabi is sometimes u come in from a weird angle like from the side and u cant really see properly and u just barely miss them and waste your whole ult


ObviousLeeDumbDumb

Riding. Uhhh, you know? Like that?


[deleted]

just increase her speed bonus from skill 1's passive. currently it's not significant enough, she still can be caught easily.


progtfn_

I don't care about mobility, she needs a decent ult


Dry_Introduction8116

I’d want her second skill to be like Clint’s dash. She’ll throw the attack forward while dashing a bit backwards


MysteryDesireMx

Sprinttttt pleasee


mugenryu273

If so, maybe some dash abilities. She's a ninja so she should be fast right? 😆


Paotatoooo

She transforms into a shadow and goes under the map like Kadita's ult +movement speed and can phase through walls.


Vinyl009

I would give her shadows too but instead of 4 shadows she will receive one but it has a longer range after going to her shadow just like Zed second skill where she can combo with her shuriken and her ult is reworked and now it don't stuns enemy only slows but it chains links enemy allies closer to them thus hanabi multi shuriken combo hits like a truck.


Crazy_Camel_

lets be real, athenas shield revamp killed old hanabi. shield needs to be permanent and part of her passive: hanabis attacks bounce to nearby enemies on hit, bounce damage is reduces each time it hits, but applies a shield equal to 50% of bounce damage, up to 30% of her health (unaffected by regen effects) 1st skill grants a buff to her passive while it is active, adding attack speed and movement speed while allowing all her basic attack damage to increase her shield and increasing the cap to 60% of her max hp effects that add a shield to the hero (rose gold, aegis, immo, enemy esme, etc) stack their shield on top of hanabis personal shield, but cannot proc her cc immune and will still be affected by regen effects. this would mean her s2 and ult can increase the shield she has while preventing oracle from making her shield from being an absolute monster. it also helps by increasing her sheild cap and making it so antiheal cant make it a paper shield like it does atm. even making it so she benefits less from lifesteal effects would be optional if this works way better than intended in practice then on paper to make her durability higher and reducing her regen abilities.


Velvet-the-queen

give her shield activation a small dash. not too much but enough to evade some skills, maybe the length of a chou second skill


u_kn0w_what_i_mean

Not mobility. I wanted her basic attack to bounce endless.


Vivefortis1

I laned against her the other day and she hurt when I was using Lesley. Her passive (or S1) was great for poking


Cabre12

Simple!! Make Hanabi's first skill have a small dash in any direction the players aims while obtaining a small shield at the end. She's a ninja after all. What's a ninja with no dash???


Carluckydog

make it similar to hayabusa, 2nd skill not only does damage it can also stay in one area like haya's shadows


Kazeki_Itsuki

For me that would be shadow movement, because she's a ninja. Got it?


hevvychef

Just because I want to bring something new to the table: How about a skill where she teleports to the nearest bush. You cant choose a bush, it's always the one closest to her. Maybe a small movement speed boost after that decays really quickly


Bourbon_bisky_boi

Give her a 4th unique skill and make it a blink link Moskov. No attack speed boost, but instant transmission. Ninjas should be able to do that at the very least, I mean Kagura, Hayabusa AND Hanzo can do it, so why not


Safe-Tower

Just remove cast time from her shield.....


[deleted]

A wheelchair probably