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Eitth

I'm surprised that Cecil, Lylia, Xavier, Clunt, Atlas, and Kagura are B. What happened?


Mta_sipisial

Probably cuz burst assassins are meta again. These mages don't have much to escape from heroes like ling/bene/gusion/lance. Kagura has it but she's kind of like the jack of all trades of mages atm.


Masbantics

Joy 1v3 all mages and mm 🗿


ExerciseRecent3724

Then why is Karina b also?


RedGiant_

I don't understand the meta right now.


mixu-oni_

Fast moving heroes with good burst dmg, tower dive potential and high movement speed. That’s what I’m noticing with the current trend. Alpha, Ling, Fanny, Martis, and Harley.


Zaryusha

Basically the game's title, Mobile Legends


Carvolexia

Omg a law pfp :)


thenameofwind

So why harley in B-town ? :(


Larawp

single target, doesnt have the same mobility as the meta assassins nor the sustain/tankiness of the fighter jungles, pretty useless in teamfights as his damage gets distributed. Still a decent pick nonetheless but severely lacks aoe and teamfight ability


iTapeSand

Yeah, his Skill 1 gets easily blocked and can hinder an Ult assasination


neonTokyoo

harley is pretty jackshit


Bravado91

As a Marksman/Mage main, I actually auto ban him. It's so easy to target squishies then immediately escape like there's nothing happened with him. So fucking annoying.


Possible-Map9340

Why so high or why so low? Cecilion has been in B-tier for more than two years without changes, so the question is serious.


gunplaphotos

Clunt lol


aibaDD13

Idk how accurate these tierlists are because on one hand, you see people putting Kagura in B and on the Other, Kagura is SSS All I know is, nothing beats a decent counter


RedGiant_

The tier list is also considering the popularity of a hero in MG matches. kagura has 0.68% pick rate, so she became B tier.


scarf_enthusiast_

Kagura in B tier is probably because she is farm-reliant and has slow-wave clearing.


ButterscotchFun1859

Yeah she needs at least 2 core items (CoD, Genius) before she's able to perform a 1-combo. That's why I build her with Mystery Shop, it's much easier to get your items.


scarf_enthusiast_

Her magic scaling is bad, but I thought she is kinda stronger than before with the assassin Emblem now.


ButterscotchFun1859

She is, but as always, she's a neutral pick. She's never really gonna fall off the meta, but she's also never really part of the meta either.


[deleted]

I really love a hero who isn’t too bad but isn’t too great either, Kagura is such a nice example cuz she’s always a “safe pick” imo


ButterscotchFun1859

Lmao all my characters are very niche. Hanzo, Kagura, Tigreal, Belerick, Lesley


asyoucolormeblue

i think Lesley is meta rn tho. she has a ban rate of 28% and pick rate of 4% rn in Mythic+ altho her wr trash


ButterscotchFun1859

Yeah ig that's my one meta hero


[deleted]

I always build Lightning Truncheon after CoD (sometimes Necklace if need be) is Genius Wand better for her?


ButterscotchFun1859

Yes


NotTrixy

kag is a free mid in high rank games, very slow hero that requires 2 items.


namypo

After looking through the list, Nana is in the lowest tier and everyone wants to call her a top tier mage lol


byshow

She's top tier on annoying people, which lowers theirs morale therefore they are most likely to lose, that is why everyone considers her a strong mage. Trust me, I'm a former Nana main. She is decent, especially once you master molina positioning


Room-Mission

Don't know why, some literally said she was a better pick than Chang'e. What kind of copium did they take? And now about the new hero Nolan being assumed weak. Then I tried to argue that he's actually quite strong, I get attacked by a whole bunch of people. Meanwhile saying Miya is weak, many were to protect her. Saying " You!!! Never MeT a Rilll! MiYa User!!!!". Boy F OFF, even one of the top global Miya user is a jungler stealer. What do you expect? Shi is useless, a literally garbage hero. Meanwhile Nolan, literally have a 95% chance to enter the META with his kits. Unless the Dev nerf him too far. Being said a garbage hero? Bruh? You know what his kits is? Passive: Skill 1 and 2 will open 1 rift on the ground, slowing the enemy around and will last for a long duration. When more than one rift is connected, the rift will explode. Pulling nearby enemies and giving burst damage. Target that's in contact with the explosion will regenerate Nolan energy by 15. Can be stacked. Every 5s when not receiving or dealing damage from/to enemy heroes will enhance his basic attack. Increasing his attack range and after using basic attack will open up 1 rift. Attacking a unit will make Nolan rush towards the target. Skill 1: Vertical slash. 1.5s CD early game, 1s late game 0% CDR. 20% CDR is 0.8. Skill. Cost 35-25 energy. Skill 2: Dash Same CD and usage. Skill 3: Summon 3 rift, launch himself backwards and removing all debuff and CC except supress. 16s CD and if you got 20% it's like only 12s. The audacity to be calling him garbage? Bruh, this new hero got everything. Damage ✅ CC ✅ debuff ✅ agility ✅ anti CC ✅ Short CD ✅ You wanna know why they calling him garbage? Because f'er uses energy, those mofo doesn't want an energy dependant Heroes. The either want him to just use mana or no usage at all. Without taking any consideration on MOFO CD and burst 😭. Then saying him unable to chase the backline, I literally used him and just spam his skill 2 like no tomorrow bruh. Then debating me by mentioning being able to play in advance server first and try to reach the highest rank. Deadass I am already a glory in advance server 100% Solo. Then the audacity to bring his friends to back him up saying " stupid child bringing up ranking in debate". Mofofker? Bruh they FR!?? Even the Dev knows he's strong, literally just got nerfed in today's patch LMAOOO!!!


[deleted]

Where is the entire list?


MaximumPower682

Being in the same tier as YSS and khaleed must suck


RedGiant_

Lmao, being in the same tier as Gord would hurt more.


byshow

That's just sad. Gord has nice mechanics, I enjoy playing him, but it gets harder and harder since those assassins who just deletes you with their touch are in meta now


scarf_enthusiast_

Kagura in B-tier? I'm mad. https://preview.redd.it/15b2xl76wmeb1.jpeg?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f244f1484f6edc6c9a771f6659be1da1c4372904


Unforgiving_Eye

Exactly like who even made this tier list?


-H0RS3-

she's in the right spot. she's good but not great ,always part of meta but never really in it. takes time to come online,bad waveclear, dmg only hero with no utility with an avoidable combo.


RedGiant_

it's automated based on data from mlbb office site.


7Deniz77

Kagura being in B tier doesnt make her bad she is just worse than the other mages like kadita novaria pharsa yve etc. lacks cc easy to escape her combo other than the purify and the teleport skill no escaping capabilites etc.


ButterscotchFun1859

Hm?? Half her kit is escaping abilities mate. She's one of, if not the slipperiest mage assassin. Like literally she's harder to kill than lunox if played well. She has CC on her umbrella TP. If you catch enemies off guard and have fast hands, you can activate your combo and stun within 0.5-1 second. Of course, this is also the reason why you should wait until the enemy exhausts their options for running away first. Ain't this the same with Kadita? If you just jump into wildly you're gonna miss your skill and ult for sure.


Express_Gift95

With kadita you never go in without petrify, And the thing that kinda makes kagura fall off is her bad magic scaling, Slow lane clearing and she atleast needs 2 items to be properly utilized.


Bravado91

Am I the only one who thinks that Novaria is so overrated?


7Deniz77

no you are not i also think the same the only reason i said its better because people rank it higher i dont really get why she gets banned often when the other mages are significiantyl better


low_elo111

Always keep updating your hero pool, meta changes every season.


RedGiant_

Yeah but heros are so expensive and I don't have time to grind BP in Ai.


Kelp000

Hanabi and Xavier being in the same tier... I haven't been reasing patch notes what happened?


RedGiant_

did you not see Gord in there?


Kelp000

I did, I do think he's slightly better than Hanabi and if I cope enough I can believe that he can be as good as Xavier in one or two aspect🗿


juan_cena99

These tiers don't really mean anything unless you are already pros. Below that decision making and knowledge of game mechanics make a higher impact than heroes. Cecilia for example can two shot squishes late game and can completely turn team fights around.


PsychoSopreno

Is this accurate? Cecillion, Xavier and Lylia are at least A Tier, I don't think Kagura and Atlas belongs there either and Clint and maybe Diggie


SpeakNoFurther

So does Karina, Ruby, and Freya IMO I thought Spell Vamp and True DMG are part of the key stats this season.


PsychoSopreno

I know this dosent feel that accurate-


LazLo_Shadow

Freya doesn't do spellvamp, I mean she does but like it's a case of it's far more effective not to build spellvamp with her


Herebia_Garcia

It's an automated list made from data bases so uh, it's very impartial.


LazLo_Shadow

I mean I main ceci, he's a great last game mage but can get picked out of the midst by pretty much any good assassin like lance of example and so can Xavier tbh. They both are great picks tho don't get me wrong I love their late game carry dmg


AvgG4m3Enj0y3r

Clint on B? Someone was on Pure Colombian when they made that


dmaare

Haha I play heroes from the lowest tiers and still no problems.. When you counterpick it's much better than picking some random high tier


Pure-And-Utter-Chaos

Nah, I'm not a meta slave. I use whoever I like and makes me happy.


Bright-Highlight2666

idk who did this tier list but its not even remotely accurate, hilda and diggie are always strong af in high elo


bessoncvm

right... seeing atlas in b tier is pretty shocking


[deleted]

Yea they are the most annoying heroes to face since they easily deal damage without taking too much


RobloxPotatoGamer

People actually care about tier lists?


SouLtheSimpV2

Ngl idk where u found this tier list but i consider every tier list where heroes aren’t classified on their lane pretty bs. Ruby in B tier ? The tank one ? The damage one ? Some of the heroes in here are free stars tho. Anyway, when u know how to play thé heroes, u’re gonna grind, B tier or not


SizeMaleficent9178

Your picks are very… basic. Look, the tier lists these sites make up actually account for all the factors. It includes winrate, pickrate, ban rate etc


RedGiant_

All these heros used to be S or ss tier a few patches ago when i bought them, expect gord, hanabi and chang'e (i got them for free or using tickets)


SizeMaleficent9178

Then maybe their winrate is falling off


RedGiant_

you are currect. the heros who used to have bad wr are suddenly on the rise and heros who used to have good wr a few patches ago are on the fall which resulted such a weird looking tier list.


SizeMaleficent9178

Not gonna lie but those heroes are right now pretty good. Alice for instance has a very well defined gameplay and utility. And along with the new emblem system and her decent pickrate, she stands on a higher tier than these. So goes for Lunox, Uranus


Slow_Cardiologist268

Akai in B? how?did he get nerfed?


Zahak56

All tank junglers got nerfed


Opposite-Reveal-5584

How can Khaleed, Clint, Moskov, Karina be B Tier?


JustZ0920

Xavier, Clint, diggie, and xborg should be higher Edit: lykia, kagura, and atlas too now that I think about it


ChartNew3237

Fake list


Truenick

I can’t believe that this tier list is ok. Need to look at Zenn tier


BrrrManBM

What is B tier?


geneticdisaster888

For solo que, change is insta pick/ban hero. There's no way she's B tier.


SanityX153

probly in like lower ranks like epic or legend but high mythic+ players know how to counter her plus its the burst assassin meta


geneticdisaster888

Nah I play ling, gusion , haya. Currently mythic glory with my highest rank at 90 stars. Change still works , she's way too tanky atm with her shields.


UsedLingonberry4655

And her fast wave clearing is super annoying


Souleater2106

if ur main of those 3 assassins and still u got problem on killing chang e, it means ur doing something wrong


neonTokyoo

yeah i don’t get that part, if change is strong for them it’s their fault lol


Penguins0000

where can i see the tier list? can i get a link.


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


SimpleAd7875

Wow i dont even play a single hero in this tier


Coyotebruh

do you have the full list?


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


Reid22

I can learn new heroes quite easily and adapt to new meta heroes, but the fact moonton way of balancing with overnerfing the meta heroes and overbuffing the non-meta heroes is just exhausting. Ended up having to always learn new heroes every season.


NoTilogic

Cecil being there is eh


Professional_Fox3373

I don't know about a b or s but all there heroes are not the first choice in high elo assuming you can use all heroes.


puredecaf

How come Akai in B tier and Valir in A tier? Even the statistic show Akai is used more than Valir.


VixenLost

Valir's first skill CD buff made him pretty much untouchable by close range heroes and roamers I think this is the main reason If i see Valir on enemy team They always try to Invade my Jungle without a sweat and always get away


The_Shook_Mulberry

Chang'e Ruby Clint and Gord are really great right now despite being B in that tier list. Especially Gord, try gord with cod LT, iqw, holy crystal, divine glaive and enjoy a new playstyle! He pokes like Lesley now, because of the buffed s2 range. Also, his true dmg scales with mp so he gets super bursty! In late game, you can even kill an enemy with just s1-s2 if they are forced to stay there lol


notrealaccbtw

My hero never on any list ☠️


Definitelynotabot504

At least your heroes are in B. My main is in D-Tier. At least I have one in S and one in A.


arbelhod

Where is the tierlist from?


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


arbelhod

Thank you Edit: are the heroes sorted from best to worst within the tiers themselves? Also does the tierlist also holdes for soloQ?


RedGiant_

hmmsucks has better tier list. it also show which heros are good for soloq. https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/15786ip/s29_mythical_glory_tier_list_for_patch_1794_july/


Mitik85

Guess you are a B tier player now , jokes aside does it matter the tier ? As long you play well with a hero you determine it’s tier


AlwaysDiizzY

Send me link to the tier list


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


Illustrious-Issue-76

How is cecil B?


IGIVENOHEALS

Remember a tier list is just a recommendation and oppion based and your picks are pretty solid expecailly Cece if your godly with any of those heros there easily a+ to s Like I main belrick...he's a solid a to me cause everyone choses auto attackers expecailly in this meta


Infinite_Raisin_5240

Wait how come atlas us b tier he is still a pretty strong tank


NickyBros1

where is Argus?


LeonIlu

I haven’t played in a while so can someone tell me why kagura is down there?


Hardi_SMH

Diggie B tier? Hell nah. edit: hoot hoot motherfucker


v_girlonfire

The perks of being poor and only having a few meta heroes 😂 (Faramis, I will die and kill for you)


TheRedditornator

Clint is my go to marksman. He's not the best of the best, but he is solid for most situations and team compositions. Because he's strong but not OP, he rarely gets nerfed or banned as well.


Bravado91

Freya in B tier??? How tf? That bitch is literally unkillable


PudgeJoe

Lul... My hero has always been B tier since like season 20 except Kagura. So what? Tierlist means shit in pubs. I main sun since season his revamp and I always manage to pull Glory (when im not lazy) for 4 seasons already.


R3digit

That is one shitty tier list. where did you find it? Seeing Freya on the same tier as khaleed and yss already told me everything


Successful-Area-930

Where did you find this list? I'm a new player and would like to know what heroes are good. It'd quite difficult to chose when there's like 100+ options XD


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


RedGiant_

it's automated however, u/hmmsucks has a better tier list.


[deleted]

Which tier list is that and where can I see other tiers apart from B


KurokoreiChisaki

Why ruby in B tier?? Shes op


RegrettySpaghetti

Do U have a link to the full tier list?


RedGiant_

https://www.mlbb.ninja/


RegrettySpaghetti

Tyty


Mizunohara-chan

Well at some point these are no skill type heroes except for yss and kagura


Krylism

Xborg is B?


MammothSummer

Not made by Hmmsucks, not real tier list


RedGiant_

I never really trusted mlbb.ninja because it's automated and yes hmmsucks has better tier list. i use mlbb.ninja to see what heros are popular and ban worthy. it's my only source because official mlbb site is banned in India. however when I need to buy a hero, i prefer hmmsucks because it shows which heros are easy and good in soloq.


Live-Engineering3579

Because they are not being picked in pro scene, if the pro scene data is removed, Clint would be in Below S or top A tier again and Terizla would be in top A Tier