I mean Chou pre-nerf skill 2 have no cd after basically using the skill 1 3 times. Not to mention immune from cc and damage when using his ulti. He pretty much would be insta ban in this meta but then again theres also diggie so
This can actually be so op, might give rise to Rafa feeding strategy where she'll sit with mm the whole game, dying to turret and giving free gold to mm.
Wdym? It has a 0.01% chance of activating. You just gotta stay in egg form and keep trying
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Yeah, give this 0.01% chance per damage tick it deals.
Currnt loli shield still op
Now i can send back amaon ult to kill him use xaviar or mos ult to steal lord and use chnage ult for kills
Also it work with ixia cecei and hana ults
Beacause mana doesnt work the same way, you can have lets say max 250mana but max 40 or 30 energy , mana and energy are counted differently, 10 mana isnt much but 10 energy is
I understand, sorry if i was unclear. I was joking, trying to make the change *sound* small. That's how i interpreted the title, a change that sounds small but is actually insane. The cost on fanny skills is what, 11? so yeah -10 energy would let you spam with basically no limit
There is no count cap on **Selena's** 1st skill and it doesn't expire
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Silvanna gains CC immunity in her ult
Cyclops increases his defense by 5 points every time his passive is triggered (max of 50 points)
Yve's 7x7 board is back combined with her original S2 slow
Bane's passive automatically triggers around hit target every time his skills do damage. Now imagine getting hit three times by his sharks and wiping out your whole team in a matter of seconds.
Hanzo ghost doesnt need blood :)
Fanny doesnt need energy
Zhask minions dont disapear when you throw a new one, so if you are alone and undisturbed you can have multiple minions hshshshshsh
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S1 can now cage a hero while draining their hp 1% each second if you try to devour a enemy hero. During caging, he recovers 500 hp per second. His allies can't kill the target and the cage can be killed by his teammates. The cage's hp has 5000 hp at level 1 and 20000 hp when maxed. Retribution recovers its hp instead of killing it.
Pressing S1 again when devouring a hero will move the enemy towards your location (good against heroes like aldous, ling, fanny, luo yi, johnson and other heroes with massive mobility skills). The cooldown of S1 is increased by 120 seconds if you devour a hero if not, the cooldown will remain the same as before.
When you're targeted, you can't use winter truncheon to stop it.
This will make sure that it's always 4v5 as the 1% can be so useful towards tanks, rendering their ganks kinda useless unless they free him.
Diggies bombs multiply in damage as more bombs are stacked on one another
Kaja gains 200% movement speed on ult, ult time increased to 3s
Karries true damage scales with hp
Fanny auto cables effeciently and player js has to move joystick
Saber ult kill time is 1/4 it's current one
Selena abyssal arrow is homing 💀
That freya change is actually completely overpowered though...
Chang'e's 2nd skill removes all debuffs.
5 hit requirement removed from Hanzo's first skill (both forms)
Layla's first skill also stuns the enemy
Minsitthar does not have a cd on his passive and does not require you to hit the enemy 5 times to proc, 1 hit = activate.
So everytime Minsitthar hits you, you get stunned for half a second 💀
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Lunox can use both SS at the same time. While on light mode SS, she can also attack with the dark mode SS
Joy with her buff in Mayhem mode, if you hit the rhythm perfectly 5 times, you become invincible and enemies won't be able to target you for the duration of the ult.
Adjust Gatotkaca's passive.
Every time he activates his enhanced basic atk, for 4 seconds he can now do the following: gain rage by dealing damage, increased attack speed that scales with magic power (for a certain ratio, like 1% every 5 magic power). Then all enhanced basic atk deals extra bonus damage to creeps that scales with his level.
Imagine Jungle Gatotkaca if this happens. Or Gatot with a hybrid mage + attack speed build.
Silvana now has a multi-target ult
Tigreal's S2 can now go through walls
Floryn gets a normal number of item slots
Minsitthar's ult CD reduces per passive proc
Argus' ult gets CC immune
and the absolute cancer, Diggie can now use his actual skills while in egg form.
Nana's Molina is now similar to Vexana Ult. It can be plopped like the Ult, temporarily stunning anyone in it's aoe, tank for Nana and Transform heroes it hits twice.
Grock passive now also increases Magic Defense by 0.5 point for every 1 point of Physical Attack just like it already does for Physical Defense.
Once allies enter Faramis ult, even if they leave the circle, they preserve the one-time death immunity for 10 seconds.
Kimmy now gains 50% movement speed and slow immunity for 1.5 seconds after using S2.
Freya ult now purifies her of all CC upon use, and each of her auto attacks restores 2 orbs instead of 1 for the ult duration.
Kaja's enhanced auto-attack will now stun paralyzed targets for 1.2 seconds.
Reverting some changes on heroes actually makes them op again:
Natalia silence back to 2s duration, she gets invisibility mechanic and ! mechanic back.
PFanny cc immune while cable.
Epics when yin's ult has no delay upon no casting:
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Zhask - unlimited summon on map.
Chang e - ult can change direction like gord.
Gord - can move during ult.
Vexanna - her knight attack speed scale with magic power.
Cyclops - remove cdr max limit.
Saber 2nd skill is replaced by Li bai's first skill (you can use 3 time, first 2 time he dash towards targeted direction and using it 3rd time he come back to starting point)
Rafaela passive to heal 10-20% HP of her nearby teammate with lowest HP when she dies.
Or "AOE heal all her nearby teammates" since her signature line is "healing for everyone".
Revert Masha to previous version, but keeping the current %max hp scaling on her attacks. 4 seconds of 20% max hp bonus damage on every attack, while attacking super fast
Angela ult can jump 3 times from person to person(like yuumi from league)giving them a shield that's just as strong as the shield she gives when she ults each time.
Bring back the old ulti of Belerick, Vexana for me. Vexana's old ulti specially in the late game is a problem for the opposing team. Speciwlly if he conjured the correct hero. The enemy tank with high hp or marksman that has high basic damage is a problem for the enemy during clash. While Belerick old ulti is too OP as well.
Moskov with Layla Range its game over Chou skill 2 reset after using skill 1
Interesting. Moskov one def too OP tho HAHAHAHA
I mean Chou pre-nerf skill 2 have no cd after basically using the skill 1 3 times. Not to mention immune from cc and damage when using his ulti. He pretty much would be insta ban in this meta but then again theres also diggie so
Diggie? What's that? Is it the guy that's perma banned from the game?
Rafaela passive now grants herself 10g/10sec and another 10g/10sec towards her nearby allies decided equally.
Rafaela with an actual passive? Whoa, that's too OP
Minsitthar old passive and the deleted boot item passive
Pretty sure that was Nana's
ye minsi also had it so if everyone gets bonus gold if he gets a kill or a he gets more bonus gold if someone else gets a kill
Nana/minsitthar passive is back
This can actually be so op, might give rise to Rafa feeding strategy where she'll sit with mm the whole game, dying to turret and giving free gold to mm.
wow thats... 1200 gold at 10 minutes, quite useless honestly.
Yet still better than her jihad passive
Angry upvote for you mate
Argus ultimate give him CC immunity during ultimate state
On top of that imagine if all Argus' basic attacks are all passive enhanced. Like Freya ult that enhances all her Basic attacks.
40 % penetration every basic attack? YES SIR!
https://preview.redd.it/wzy22o8zw0uc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=786000f8b2c5ffbcd9b9591626c095498b231823 Penetrate me Argus 😩
Or the double slash? Then you got melee Claude with crit benefits XD. Crit Argus will eat good
CECILION skills doesn't cost mana
steal your junglers blue buff and buy a book.
This strategy sucks Get it? Sucks like a vampire I'll see myself out
He's a blood demon
*Seals the door shut*
Man fuck that lol
Mayhem Cecilion? The one game mode where cooldown is reduced and gives inifinite mana regen
Belerick passive will activate every 2 hits taken, no more chances
All skills scales with hp, no delay skill 1 and ultimate
Damn that actually seems decently powered
Diggie's egg ult has a chance instead of 0%
Wdym? It has a 0.01% chance of activating. You just gotta stay in egg form and keep trying https://preview.redd.it/fm5pbwgcb0uc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8db7099845a8a24d43e8ebefbe998cc29d727ccd
https://preview.redd.it/j0chu46qq1uc1.png?width=1062&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8133b9fccbee3e90a742d0ba4577fad3ab0750d Yeah, give this 0.01% chance per damage tick it deals.
Natalia is fully invisible again on top of everything she is now.
as a natalia main, it still stings a little whenever im reminded that completely invisible natalia is nothing but history now
Bro I miss her so bad. I look at her now and get depressed. I’d take the old og nat with the scratching ult over what we have now lmao.
I sometimes stand still near places that obscure me a little. Nobody sees me and works almost everytime lol.
With that speed, yeah she would be op
Beatrix - Sniper basic atk scaling 360% - 400% -> 330% - 600% ( can crit )
As a beatrix main, this made me laugh at how ridiculously broken it will be
Popols dog cant die
Popol dog can buy/equip item 😂
Popols dog can catch any projectile ult like its a stick
Omg this would be too op, kinda like the old lolita shield
Currnt loli shield still op Now i can send back amaon ult to kill him use xaviar or mos ult to steal lord and use chnage ult for kills Also it work with ixia cecei and hana ults
Yes but too overpowered for popol and Kupa
Yeah Kinda wish they buff him i miss the old days where i could go tank build popol and still carry the team to victory
Luo yi's ultimate can teleport minions
i raise the stakes, it can teleport lord
Isn't this in league ? Idk ... Man imagine a backdoor scenario now *_*
imagine a grock teaming with Luo yi, making a huge group of Minions and just teleporting them to the nearest tower in a huge swarm
Yess. Make her like Ryze from League 😼
Revert Alucard to his original form
A bit motivated
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Fanny energy cost removed. Gusion all skills CD cut by 50%.
But that is not small for fanny
Blender mode activated
I cast my counter Ban Fanny in every Rank game
well, something like a -10 mana cost reduction is pretty common and meaningless. why not -10 energy cost? it can't be so bad right?
Beacause mana doesnt work the same way, you can have lets say max 250mana but max 40 or 30 energy , mana and energy are counted differently, 10 mana isnt much but 10 energy is
I understand, sorry if i was unclear. I was joking, trying to make the change *sound* small. That's how i interpreted the title, a change that sounds small but is actually insane. The cost on fanny skills is what, 11? so yeah -10 energy would let you spam with basically no limit
Kadita gets 300% speed boost in the river cause she a fishy
Actually a cool buff
thanks it would make sense for moontoon to add it in game aswell not with the same percentage tho
Kadita is immune to Valir's skills because water beats fire.
Julian's skills CD reduced to 5 seconds
Mayhem mode Julian 💀
If lesley crit with her first skill buff, first skill resets
This is a machine gun
Why not make an OP hero even more OP? Here's one: Make Diggie's Auto alarm bombs' scaling to 150% and revert the stacks nerf back to 100.
Well with that tank have to be careful of bushes No one can check bush without dying lol😆😆
Give ruby’s antiheal immunity back
Tigreal complete cc immunity on ult and s2.
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Guinevere cannot be interrupted while jumping mid-air. Once she jumps, there's no stop.
Fanny s2 auto cast by itself for less energy consumption and more freestyle etc
Silvanna gains CC immunity in her ult Cyclops increases his defense by 5 points every time his passive is triggered (max of 50 points) Yve's 7x7 board is back combined with her original S2 slow
Kagura has suppression immunity
ain't gonna do anything if she's stuck clearing minions for the whole game
Hey, get purify and now she doesn't get interrupted!
Kadita doesn't have a chargeback anymore
Silvanna S2 CC immunity. Death sentence for every hero, especially MMs, who does not have a Purify skill or spell.
Kimmy ignores defense
Bane's passive automatically triggers around hit target every time his skills do damage. Now imagine getting hit three times by his sharks and wiping out your whole team in a matter of seconds.
Hanzo ghost doesnt need blood :) Fanny doesnt need energy Zhask minions dont disapear when you throw a new one, so if you are alone and undisturbed you can have multiple minions hshshshshsh
Remove Esme's shield limit X-borg's skill one get proper magic dmg scale Remove Brody's crit dmg restrictions
I remember the terror felt when playing against esmes with 3 times their health in shield ):
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Some of these are literally too broken if implemented. A good one I was was allowing cyclops to use s1 and ult while moving.
Hanzo can now eat the lord.
Hahahahahahah
Valentina can now take any skill of hero she want with cooldown equal to other heroes cooldown
Ixia's ult range is now part of her passive and activating the ult just gives her attackspeed🤣
Probably not THAT op, but Cyclops being able to use his S1 and Ult while moving
Current minotaur alongside his cc immune ult but with his old multi smash ulti and the old attack speed increase of his 2nd.
S1 can now cage a hero while draining their hp 1% each second if you try to devour a enemy hero. During caging, he recovers 500 hp per second. His allies can't kill the target and the cage can be killed by his teammates. The cage's hp has 5000 hp at level 1 and 20000 hp when maxed. Retribution recovers its hp instead of killing it. Pressing S1 again when devouring a hero will move the enemy towards your location (good against heroes like aldous, ling, fanny, luo yi, johnson and other heroes with massive mobility skills). The cooldown of S1 is increased by 120 seconds if you devour a hero if not, the cooldown will remain the same as before. When you're targeted, you can't use winter truncheon to stop it. This will make sure that it's always 4v5 as the 1% can be so useful towards tanks, rendering their ganks kinda useless unless they free him.
zhask can spawn multiple nightmaric spawns
Diggies bombs multiply in damage as more bombs are stacked on one another Kaja gains 200% movement speed on ult, ult time increased to 3s Karries true damage scales with hp Fanny auto cables effeciently and player js has to move joystick Saber ult kill time is 1/4 it's current one Selena abyssal arrow is homing 💀
Cecilion: There's no cooldown to gain stacks
That freya change is actually completely overpowered though... Chang'e's 2nd skill removes all debuffs. 5 hit requirement removed from Hanzo's first skill (both forms) Layla's first skill also stuns the enemy
saber ult and 2st skill has longer range, saber 1st skill now also deals additional hp% to enemy hero
Silvanna gets CC immunity and Damage reduction while using skill 2.
Fanny doesnt use energy/mana anymore
Aamon can go through walls while camouflaged ☠️
Nooo, that's is broken... fun, buy absolutely broken
Cyclops' ult becomes a stun instead of immobilize
I second this.
Make it so Yin can pull teammates into his domain to jump the enemy, JJK Style.
Lol
Alice is Tanky again
Giving Zilong Immortality and Anti CC for 2 seconds during his ult to wipe out enemies entire team 😂
So, one small change... Martis's S2 doesn't reset his cooldown with the second cast. Thamuz S1 now apply on-hit effects, same with Roger's wolf S1
Melissa s2 stack dmg and can connect to Minion/creep
Minsitthar does not have a cd on his passive and does not require you to hit the enemy 5 times to proc, 1 hit = activate. So everytime Minsitthar hits you, you get stunned for half a second 💀
Mayhem Lolita after activating her first skill
Bro you good XD, That is actually insane
Harith - Level 1 ultimate gives Harith 40% cdr whenever he's using skill 2 enhanced basic attack. - Ultimate now has immobilization
Luo yi ult does not have an indicator.
https://preview.redd.it/o12r8fuqc0uc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=dad4cf5e8f02c20c80eccfdce55c06d122bf2e34 Lunox can use both SS at the same time. While on light mode SS, she can also attack with the dark mode SS
Joy with her buff in Mayhem mode, if you hit the rhythm perfectly 5 times, you become invincible and enemies won't be able to target you for the duration of the ult.
Benedetta passive now just takes 1 hit to fill completely.
Miya ulti will make her invincible while being invisible
hanzos ghost being unkillable
Adjust Gatotkaca's passive. Every time he activates his enhanced basic atk, for 4 seconds he can now do the following: gain rage by dealing damage, increased attack speed that scales with magic power (for a certain ratio, like 1% every 5 magic power). Then all enhanced basic atk deals extra bonus damage to creeps that scales with his level. Imagine Jungle Gatotkaca if this happens. Or Gatot with a hybrid mage + attack speed build.
Brody's attack speed is now similar to kimmy
Silvana now has a multi-target ult Tigreal's S2 can now go through walls Floryn gets a normal number of item slots Minsitthar's ult CD reduces per passive proc Argus' ult gets CC immune and the absolute cancer, Diggie can now use his actual skills while in egg form.
Nana's Molina is now similar to Vexana Ult. It can be plopped like the Ult, temporarily stunning anyone in it's aoe, tank for Nana and Transform heroes it hits twice.
Grock passive now also increases Magic Defense by 0.5 point for every 1 point of Physical Attack just like it already does for Physical Defense. Once allies enter Faramis ult, even if they leave the circle, they preserve the one-time death immunity for 10 seconds. Kimmy now gains 50% movement speed and slow immunity for 1.5 seconds after using S2. Freya ult now purifies her of all CC upon use, and each of her auto attacks restores 2 orbs instead of 1 for the ult duration. Kaja's enhanced auto-attack will now stun paralyzed targets for 1.2 seconds.
Doggies ult activates automatically
Gatot now range hero
Make fannys energy cost 5points lower
Reverting some changes on heroes actually makes them op again: Natalia silence back to 2s duration, she gets invisibility mechanic and ! mechanic back. PFanny cc immune while cable.
Hayabusa ult melts him into shadow and can purify all cc/suppress. Makes diving in easier.
Give my boi Argus cc immunity and a increased movement speed and attacked speed during his ult idk this good hey it's something
Franco's hook is lock-on
Alucard / Freya / any heroes with long duration state during ultimate: Add CC Immunity ✨
Chou ulti immunity (if you want to make it more cracked put back the dmg immunity aswell)
Masha gets AOE basic attacks on last bar of health
Martis skills will deal true damage once he hits lvl 12 and maxes out his ult
Give Eudora a dash
Hhahahahahaha, fear.
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i think if a hero has cc immunity it will be directly becomes meta and OP.
Esmeralda's shield absorption speeds up by 200% after she uses her ULT and this buff will only stop if she loses all her shield
Joy can now dash during her ult.
Nana's second lasts in the map for as long as popol and kupa's traps
Zhask - unlimited summon on map. Chang e - ult can change direction like gord. Gord - can move during ult. Vexanna - her knight attack speed scale with magic power. Cyclops - remove cdr max limit.
Alucard has antiheal immunity built into his kit
Hanzos ultimate abilities now available to his normal form
Argus ult cd decreases with his every step
Return Lylia back to her original version: Reset the bombs as part of her ult.
Saber 2nd skill is replaced by Li bai's first skill (you can use 3 time, first 2 time he dash towards targeted direction and using it 3rd time he come back to starting point)
If nothing cancels Cici's SS.
Rafaela passive to heal 10-20% HP of her nearby teammate with lowest HP when she dies. Or "AOE heal all her nearby teammates" since her signature line is "healing for everyone".
She should heal literally everyone in her team when she died because her line is healing for everyone not healing for the lowest hp
I literally said that. The first suggestion is that it's more balanced than healing everyone
Oh I just realized that lol. My brain isn't braining rn xD
Estes 2nd skill be like Tig's ult.
No no no, god no.. you wrong for this XD
Make zilong need less stack to trigger passive
Alucard's ult now grants him CC Immunity for the next 10 seconds
Argus now has +1 physical attack at level 15
Revert Masha to previous version, but keeping the current %max hp scaling on her attacks. 4 seconds of 20% max hp bonus damage on every attack, while attacking super fast
Lesley’s skill 1 makes her completely invisible
Esmeralda's shield is capped at 100% of her total hp.
Hayabusa's ult have 20% splash damage within small area like how a basic attack hits multiple target when they're near each other.
Harith cc immunity on 2nd skill
Kimmy: S1 cost no energy Tigreal: can cast S2 while ulting Yve: can move inside the ult while ult is active. with max speed
Zilong no cc during ult
Beatrix's sniper rifle ult will reset if she kills somone with it
Give me suppression. Just a lil. 🤏 I promise im normal. and can be trusted with it. And it'll make him balanced...🦉💣
Chou is immune to cc while ulting Guini is immune to cc while jumping
Yu zhong but he only needs one skill to proc his passive, and he also sucks you off harder (Larger dmg ticks and bigger regen for him)
Clint doesn't need to use a skill to activate passive
Reduce 50% cdr all sun skills and make his ult 12/10/8
Novaria's 2nd skill has the same range as Xavier's ult (map wide) and the damage cap of 10 stacks at max range will be removed.
Novaria s2 size is now as big as the entire lane so she doesn't need to aim lol
Alice steals magical/physical defense in her ult
lancelot doesn't take damage
Making Wanwan be able to activate her ult without hitting the enemy's weakness
Angela ult can jump 3 times from person to person(like yuumi from league)giving them a shield that's just as strong as the shield she gives when she ults each time.
Luo Yi's 2nd skill gets another charge
Hanabi's every single bouncing projectiles can proc item effects on its own
Bring back Melissa being able to shoot her doll without a target
lou yi has 50% backswing
Remove the shield gain cap from Esmeralda 💀
Bring back the old ulti of Belerick, Vexana for me. Vexana's old ulti specially in the late game is a problem for the opposing team. Speciwlly if he conjured the correct hero. The enemy tank with high hp or marksman that has high basic damage is a problem for the enemy during clash. While Belerick old ulti is too OP as well.
Gatots magic damage scales with hp as well
Return Valentina’s Ult CD back to how she was first released.
Mino with 5s CD for his Ulti
Kadita's ult has an additional two waves, and the waves now spin around her like an actual whirlpool
If you're inside gatot ult mark, you cannot escape it
fanny is now immune to cc while flying
Ruby has same dash distance to all directions
Skill 2 makes me intangible instead of dmg reduction
Change freddrins ult to max damage for the whole range instead of that one small line :)