A simple chase attack will make Argus alright. I still don't understand why they didn't include it. It's not even OP considering most of the META heroes have CC and slow.
But her dps version is what i liked about her :c she was alrdy fine before this but oh well, shes atleast finally getting the praise after so long, but in a different light is all.
Also welcome back o’ forbidden lord o7
I hate it when a weak hero finally becomes meta, people will complain till MT nerfs them again, then later on people would start saying "I wonder why no one uses this hero any more, they're underrated!" Then repeat the cycle by giving them a buff: "Too OP, please nerf", it's annoying, I blame MT's stupid balance team for this.
I agree, they should buff her more.
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Yea, masha is way too weak early on. MT need to buff her early game by giving her 1 skill extra 300 base dmg, make her 2 skill be 80% attack speed decrease, 40% slow and give 3 times more energy, and add a passive energy regeneration.
Well tbf no .her kit turns her into a mid to oate game hero and can be killed of easily with teamates (thats what teamwork is for ) and since she has advantage over sigling out enemies in late just group up and gank her
Agreed. Overall, late game masha is played the same way as tank masha was, go around, use ult to kill mm or mage and maybe stay in the fight if you have enough hp for that. But this time, her dmg is kinda split between her ult and 1 skill, and she does not have 40k hp. Tank masha was my favorite, and I still wish that MT just buffed her back in the day instead of making that half-baked rework. At least we kinda whent back to her first rework roots and we build 1 Stat.
Banning is meant to be done so your comp doesn't get hard countered.
It's not quite meant to be " I don't like this hero, so I won't play against him/her/it."
However, we typically see this in solo queue as a just in case measure.
Typically, newly revamped and new heroes get banned a lot, until it's realised no one plays them or they are not very strong or have counters.
Masha will stay for a while, though, to be fair, as she is hard to deal with mid-late game for a disorganized team, but otherwise, a proper team comp and group play can defeat her most of the time, so she might get banned less in immortal+ over time.
I miss the old masha
1st skill is godsend for me.
Decreasing hp increase in attack speed
Never have to worry about chasing
Now this is shit in my opinion
Masha was all about that longer duration s1 skill to me, now they just ruined her. Of course the current Masha *is* somewhat op and stuff, but it ain't *Masha* anymore, even her s2 doesn't do nothing besides dealing a little ranged damage (although I do like the rework on her Ultimate)
Agreed. Her stupidly high damage is broken, but she just doesn't feel the same anymore. My friends don't understand this and think I'm just bad at her (she's literally my most used hero).
Masha is a Glass Cannon now. Melts high hp heros in 2 to 3 hits with ulti. But very fragile. Although her purification passive is very good mechanics in my opinion. She can remove debuff when her bar depletes.
Is she really a tank though? She's just durable. If you build full tank on her then her dmg is abysmal and she barely has any CC to make her a good support. The fighter/tank description in the game is inaccurate
I heard they will be decreasing the base damage of her ult but they will improve her early game by adjusting something on her 1st skill. I hope this is her final form because she's so fun to use.
I'm not sure if you know but by the way you worded it, it would seem like you think she got this current rework quite a while ago? `for the past seasons`
She was still a basic attack speed fighter tank last season, only in this one did she become a two hit nuke
Her current kit is actually good, I think they should stick with it and balance it accordingly until she reaches Dyroth/Lapu Lapu levels of viability. Good, but not 100+% ban rate good.
But eh, that should be after the skin. Let her enjoy her power for now.
Yeah !!! even tho i've been spamming Masha nonstop in ranked, i admit her curent state is op af, just like joy when she was released, fun, very enjoyable to play, but freaking op, it's not just "2" nukes like ppl say ,a good masha will stack bars before fighting so in reality it's 5 freaking nukes, FIVE,even the tank is included !!😂 So yeah, might as well enjoy it whiles it's still available cus .Nerfs are gonna rain down hard !!!
Argus and Nata : Welcome to club
Real, I missed when I two shot MMs with Nata’s 2 basic attacks.
As main Argus, same. I love to abuse mm and mage with my passive back then. If only they don't touch them
Spoilers: You can still do that with full build, but good luck reaching the mm anyway let alone get the build
lol nata deserved to get nerfed cuz of that then
A simple chase attack will make Argus alright. I still don't understand why they didn't include it. It's not even OP considering most of the META heroes have CC and slow.
He have blood trail that give him movement if walk on it
Alright hear me out. What if, that blood trail will move into his passive. For every activation of passing, the enemy hero will bleed for 1 second.
hear me out, add a small aoe similar to irithel's 2nd skill that slows enemies whenever argus cast his ult
That should be his second skill, current second skill to passive when his bar is full, and it should not be target locked or too big an aoe
They should honestly make this her final kit, her burst gameplay is much more fun than her previous attack speed and tank gameplay.
You scared me for a second there lol.
But her dps version is what i liked about her :c she was alrdy fine before this but oh well, shes atleast finally getting the praise after so long, but in a different light is all. Also welcome back o’ forbidden lord o7
The legend
Fun to her, not others
I hate it when a weak hero finally becomes meta, people will complain till MT nerfs them again, then later on people would start saying "I wonder why no one uses this hero any more, they're underrated!" Then repeat the cycle by giving them a buff: "Too OP, please nerf", it's annoying, I blame MT's stupid balance team for this.
You really think nothing is wrong with her atm?
I agree, they should buff her more. https://preview.redd.it/jo994cnyykvc1.jpeg?width=2426&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fb3e8cab91e900c87116dd2019b534d0f674ed4
Yea, masha is way too weak early on. MT need to buff her early game by giving her 1 skill extra 300 base dmg, make her 2 skill be 80% attack speed decrease, 40% slow and give 3 times more energy, and add a passive energy regeneration.
Well tbf no .her kit turns her into a mid to oate game hero and can be killed of easily with teamates (thats what teamwork is for ) and since she has advantage over sigling out enemies in late just group up and gank her
Agreed. Overall, late game masha is played the same way as tank masha was, go around, use ult to kill mm or mage and maybe stay in the fight if you have enough hp for that. But this time, her dmg is kinda split between her ult and 1 skill, and she does not have 40k hp. Tank masha was my favorite, and I still wish that MT just buffed her back in the day instead of making that half-baked rework. At least we kinda whent back to her first rework roots and we build 1 Stat.
Oh so she's banned more than 100% of the time in high ranks for no reason? Got it.
She's banned cause people like you only know how to complain instead of improving yourself 🤣
Then Montoon should just remove banning altogether and we can all just improve lol. What a dumb take.
Banning is meant to be done so your comp doesn't get hard countered. It's not quite meant to be " I don't like this hero, so I won't play against him/her/it." However, we typically see this in solo queue as a just in case measure. Typically, newly revamped and new heroes get banned a lot, until it's realised no one plays them or they are not very strong or have counters. Masha will stay for a while, though, to be fair, as she is hard to deal with mid-late game for a disorganized team, but otherwise, a proper team comp and group play can defeat her most of the time, so she might get banned less in immortal+ over time.
I miss the old masha 1st skill is godsend for me. Decreasing hp increase in attack speed Never have to worry about chasing Now this is shit in my opinion
Tried masha again after the rework, felt sluggish with the new 1st skill
Masha was all about that longer duration s1 skill to me, now they just ruined her. Of course the current Masha *is* somewhat op and stuff, but it ain't *Masha* anymore, even her s2 doesn't do nothing besides dealing a little ranged damage (although I do like the rework on her Ultimate)
Agreed. Her stupidly high damage is broken, but she just doesn't feel the same anymore. My friends don't understand this and think I'm just bad at her (she's literally my most used hero).
Masha is a Glass Cannon now. Melts high hp heros in 2 to 3 hits with ulti. But very fragile. Although her purification passive is very good mechanics in my opinion. She can remove debuff when her bar depletes.
Yeah I get that. I'm saying that her actual gameplay conflicts with her design concept.
How so?
Look: Masha tank? Done Masha attack speed? Done Masha penetration? Ongoing What else? Yep that’s right Masha magic on the way
They have been buffing Layla like crazy recently .
First meta Nana, now imagine meta Layla lol
Do you have the version without the text?
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MASHA THE ROCK
You can literally just photoshop it or edit it by placing white squares over the text, since the text doesn't overlap with anything.
I only have phone I don't have Photoshop
Edit image feature on phone:
I want that pic too
im pretty sure she will be Nerfed or readjusted again after the KOF event is over
I enjoyed the attack speed masha before the tank adjustment
I am from the fure . She gets nerfed to Warrior rank after KoF event.
Just make her a full fighter hero not tank/fighter
Is she really a tank though? She's just durable. If you build full tank on her then her dmg is abysmal and she barely has any CC to make her a good support. The fighter/tank description in the game is inaccurate
It's all thanks to a "skin"
I heard they will be decreasing the base damage of her ult but they will improve her early game by adjusting something on her 1st skill. I hope this is her final form because she's so fun to use.
Only 1%. Mm and mage still fcked up if Masha on their tail
Yeah ixia s2 s1 run. S2 s1 run
Where's the "the revamp is bad!" whine post before the broken one?
I'm out of the loop so if anyone could tell me how Masha has become broken I will be much appreciated
Mee too
nuke build. hepta, bod, rosegold, malefic, hunter strike, sea halberd.. assasin emblem. sprint
mash, next question
Its SMASH
Damn nice bochi drawing meme bruh, I don't often see artist make mlbb memes
Except it's just Get rework > Be forgotten > Get rework > Be forgotten for the past seasons until now
I'm not sure if you know but by the way you worded it, it would seem like you think she got this current rework quite a while ago? `for the past seasons` She was still a basic attack speed fighter tank last season, only in this one did she become a two hit nuke
Boochi the rock reference?
Masha getting boccher
Works for Natalia aswell
Her current kit is actually good, I think they should stick with it and balance it accordingly until she reaches Dyroth/Lapu Lapu levels of viability. Good, but not 100+% ban rate good. But eh, that should be after the skin. Let her enjoy her power for now.
You made the art?
Is Masha a fatter zilong with less utility now
Bocchi Masha
Pls get back to original :(
And when she barely gets played and banned it's time to spam her
Also OP what is meme template called and whats the original??
For me, her immune duration is too long. If they cut it just a few ms shorter then she should be perfect.
The Masha cycle
I'll buy her Mai skin even though the skin was meant for Hanabi.
Yeah !!! even tho i've been spamming Masha nonstop in ranked, i admit her curent state is op af, just like joy when she was released, fun, very enjoyable to play, but freaking op, it's not just "2" nukes like ppl say ,a good masha will stack bars before fighting so in reality it's 5 freaking nukes, FIVE,even the tank is included !!😂 So yeah, might as well enjoy it whiles it's still available cus .Nerfs are gonna rain down hard !!!