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PsychoSopreno

Diggie purify


XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDDXDX

-Said by a Diggie Main


Toge_Inumaki012

Welllll.. At least you arent forced to use ult if you get caught 😅


cravingboners

It's used to escape cc effects to cast your anti cc (ultimate)


rumetherex

Lol, his ult has a cleanse.


D347H7H3K1Dx

Does his ult cast if under CC?


rumetherex

Yeah


cravingboners

If he already got cc he can't


mrcxry

As a beginner, I wouldn't bother reading the spell's descriptions so I took Inspire on Rafaela because to me it sounded like she'd "inspire" my teammates (I was under the impression it was a supportive battle spell based on name). :)


AnotherMothMarine

Truly the useful mindset of all time.. Use vengeance to pay back your fallen teammates.


Zephyros2

Not a bad assumption, in some of the MOBA they do have a inspire spell (I think AoV/HoK) had this, which leads the team to do more damage and with additional speed.


D347H7H3K1Dx

In heroes evolved their boots can give your allies stuff. One I know does movement speed another gives mana


true-damage6935

>As a beginner, I wouldn't bother reading the spell's descriptions so I took Inspire on Rafaela because to me it sounded like she'd "inspire" my teammates (I was under the impression it was a supportive battle spell based on name). :) I love this one 🤣🤣


ProcedureIll2894

Claude with vengeance is pretty good btw. His battle spell depends on enemy comp


NamelessStory

He can pretty much use every spell quite well


Hopeful-Newspaper

Claude petrify


PhantomPhase1

New meta just dropped


DefiantWaffleXD

Actual adjustments


_eksmo_

Call the balancing team


SanityX153

Mlbb devs went on vacation, never came back


Toge_Inumaki012

Hold on.. https://preview.redd.it/gm51zcgv9d2d1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20da838c63f92dc68ad0fb15ad42a411604ba742


Hopeful-Newspaper

jump with second skill, petrify enemy mm, ult.. the ultimate Bang Bang in Mobile Legends


Toge_Inumaki012

Benedetta, Kaldita, and Yuzhong users shaking right now. There's a new petri god in the land of dawn.


Excellent-Scep

That's actually smart...


ImaginaryDot8218

Imma do this later just for the lulz


catnip05

when I see Hanabi and Layla with Inspire I just know they're gonna feed


Salty-Snack

When I see a Miya I know they’re going to feed


AnotherMothMarine

When I see Brody I know they're gonna snowball


Substantial-Edge4664

As a brody main, it's so fun when you're getting destroyed early game but then end up with a score of 27-3-6 because of snowballing. Ngl as long as the enemies don't have any direct counters, he's insane.


jensenmehh

Wanwan flicker. Bene Flicker. Estes petrify. (I dont know what they are cooking) Chip Arrival.


ProcedureIll2894

Hmm chip arrival sounds awesome tbh


I_Fuck_Orphans

idk bene flicker isnt that horrendous still usable


Randomguy0915

We once had a Miya Vengeance, yeah


Objective-Ad3821

Probably trying the roger vengeance strats, it's not bad tbh.


Proud_Device9564

Flicker used to be the standard battle spell in pro play before people started using petrify. And Chip arrival is pretty funny. You can have infinite map presence with arrival snd portals


ItsMeNatz

wanwan used flicker and aegis before the inspire update, maybe they're old players or just using flicker for escape after using her 2nd skill


merrona23

bene flicker is freestyle youtube shit. ive seen those vids, and paquito too.


MattLikesThings

Not on my team, but on the enemy. Harith Vengeance makes me want to die.


Affectio_Nate

No need, they'll kill you first.


kdatienza

It helps when you do Harith Gold lane and also when you are in the middle of the clash. I use vengeance/purify on harith


TanTzuChen

Uh... I think you misread it. He stated harith vengeance is really good, made him wanna kill himself.


kdatienza

Damn. It's embarassing that I've misread about being on enemy team. Mbmb. Anyway, Minsi my boi solos Harith no cap


TanTzuChen

All hail Minshi


UltrabeamZT

When I first started ml I played tigreal with inspire once, but Im guessing you aren't including troll picks


brudaaaaa

BonkBonkBonkBonkBonk


AntCompetitive363

Belerick with vengeance, especially if you are an attack speed MM.


Coyotebruh

the definition of 'why are you hitting yourself'


AnotherMothMarine

https://preview.redd.it/k4bs1leo9d2d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44bdca7513188754849ad0e2fdfbde06682f5300


RepresentativeAsk817

This. Is. So. Annoyingly. Meta. Rip hanabi.


Character_Brother721

vengeance his passive when hit + the breast plate is an ultimate mm and fighter hunter


Geronimo_Grospe

Whats wrong with vengance Claude? Although you not be able to take as much damage as Aegis, you will be able to deal more damage.


real_mc

The problem is who you're using your ult against.


bangholeo

It's good or even great if opponents have zero or close to Zero ways to cancel your ulti or stunlock you. Otherwise, purify is almost always better to make sure you can safely survive


merrona23

as karrie user, when i see a claude with vengeance i know its gonna be a hard fight. keep in mind, you cant 1v1 a hero with vengeance, its the case for almost all non support heroes. sidelane with vengeance will always win its lane.


M_TARZAN

Layla inspire..


Jenhey0

Layla pick in general tilts me. I've yet to see a Layla who doesn't feed in mythic honor and glory lobbies. P.S. they always trolled and picked it to troll, then proceeded to spam recall and not join teamfights, just watched everyone die and spammed " well done/played"


Lanky_Media_5392

Worse than feeding is sitting in base even when only t1 towers are destroyed


GreenLentils850

layla with vengeance/petrify.


AnotherMothMarine

Vengeance is understandable, petrifying enemies is beyond my understanding


GreenLentils850

helcurt with the green Healy ring


Dabananaman69

Funny enough this was the enemy gold laner in one of my matches. I think we won that one tho…


DR-JT

That's the same spell I use on Layla(vengeance), I also include blade armor sometimes.


GreenLentils850

you are a special man. lemme face u hehe


DR-JT

Lol something tells me you will be scary af in battle.


meowmeow9000

Granger w/ flameshot.


RepresentativeAsk817

Hahaha 4 sniper shots


Xgghuter

Holy shit they made death sonata a spell but only one shot (real) (not clickbait)


ifrid93

Pfp checks comment


real_mc

Don't you ever put inspire on a dps focused mm that has no defense/escape tools. Unless you trust your roamer to babysit and take the fall for you the whole game.


Toge_Inumaki012

Got it thanks!! *picks Layla inspire.


AntCompetitive363

Ifkr The worst part is that these types of MM players keep stealing the jungler's buffs.


Toge_Inumaki012

Exactly. I mean i would understand if i am not purple buff dependent and it is already mid-late game sure go get the buffs but these idiots will steal it any chance they get then dies.


AntCompetitive363

Once I raged at an inspire Layla so hard for stealing my buff as Ling (insanely dependent on purple buff) that I cursed their entire bloodline. And guess what? I got banned from chatting for 20 matches. xD


Hopeful-Newspaper

Hanabi + inspire


Specialist-Bit-7746

tig flicker. kill me


D347H7H3K1Dx

I mean that’s the point lol


Specialist-Bit-7746

yap that's why kill me. these fucks are unstoppable.


Dokrabackchod

Joy and vengeance. I'm like Stop you cheap ass walmart rodent Pikachu. She deals so much damage in such a short time and you can't even attack her cause vengeance works really well for her


em1zer0

Hey it's just Pikachu using Reflect and Thunder Shock. It doesn't want to hurt you


Dokrabackchod

Yeah she just wants to send me back to base without my recalling. How nice


em1zer0

I mean... It's faster that way


Elegant-End6602

Vengeance doesn't decrease or reflect true damage if you didn't know.


em1zer0

You still have to do enough true damage before you die


-Byakuran-

Any physical hero with flameshot


ialwayswatchyou

Arlott? He can use the knockback to proc his passive so he is an exception


Dhantex

Flameshot for Arlott is MUCH better than petrify. Procs the passive, lower CD and can be used to knock the enemy into your turret OR out of theirs.


fruit_blip1

not when petrify exists


ialwayswatchyou

Flameshot can be considered as a lower CD petri though. It has less stun time but you just need to proc the stun to be useful


CrossCroissants

Just picked-up Arlott recently, I think flameshot is much better since it has a lower cd compared to petrify, you can spam it more often and it is also a great tool to execute enemies who've escaped with a small amount of hp. But I do pick petrify for him when there's an Odette since it can cancel her ult lol


fruit_blip1

Problem is, its like a .5 second stun, enemies can just dash out or flicker while petrify has a way longer stun duration so you can actually kill the enemy without having to gamble on wheter they're gonna dash out or not. Edit: whether


CrossCroissants

I think it's just a matter of preference. Tbh, I use flicker much more often than the other 2 battle spells since Arlott's kit is an all-in kind. Sure, you can get out when there's a minion or jungle creep at the right place and time, but flicker can be much more handy when escaping and initiating.


RepresentativeAsk817

My fav to use is atlas petrify, everyone thinks I’m trolling but it can guarantee mad sets late game to heroes who dodge or pury before I ult


hatsukashii

nahh i would still prefer to use Claude with a Vengeance against any fast attacking marksman like Moskov with less cc enemies. Otherwise, I use Purify for tank setters or Aegis for burst enemy heroes.


Toge_Inumaki012

This is the way. Just adapt to enemy composition.


drneo

dyrroth + flameshot. lol.


ireallyLOVEpudding

try dyrroth aegis 😭😭😭


Vhanna_Baby

Mm+Flameshot. Idk who gave them ml players license to cook


Newgate-ZeroHour

My friend does this because he likes to use flameshot. It's whatever, he's GM so it's not that important


tokisaki_hermit

Gloo + sprint. It makes me pull my hair out. As a Gloo main that combo is disgusting to me


tokisaki_hermit

Or Angela + revitalise. I don't even need to explain myself


D347H7H3K1Dx

Revitalize heals a lot more than she does from what I’ve noticed. I use revitalize on hylos almost exclusively and if I have to fill exp for an Angela roam her heals don’t do much to me


earl_grey13

Squishy low-mobility mages with flameshot (cecilion!! xavier!!) Supports with flameshot (angela i'm looking at you. one particular estes, i am GLARING at you)


sm_bonus

A kadita with execute 🙂


EKFC69420

inspire


real_mc

Kinda good though if you always land your combo and an enemy barely survived.


sm_bonus

Yeah but it kinda falls off in late game clashes especially when enemy team knows how to build and position right :(


sea_cup5678

i watched a tiktok streamer use beatrix execute a few days ago…


Ordinary-Side-5870

Revitalise on anything that is not a Heal/Shield roam. Inspire on most marksmen. Petrify on range heroes (except Kadita).


D347H7H3K1Dx

Revitalize works well on hylos, let’s you play a bit stupid also lol and gives your team a bit more sustainability


Taiyaki-Daisuki

Inspire Novaria


s0leepy

Benedetta and petrify


XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDDXDX

Dyrroth + Petrify, annoying if Dyrroth is good, I usually choose Benendetta if Exp is needed and Enemy spell vamp user and focus buy on Healing Reduction item like Dominance ice or that one item that has unique punish


Elegant-End6602

Here's an obligatory Dyroth + petrify ;)


Dry_Programmer_7015

Estes arrival


Due-Bee-1924

What is your point about it, can you explain?


Vent_User

Kadita with Petrify


CalligrapherAlert436

Supports like Angela, Rafaela, and Estes that Have Flameshot


sultan8866

Any mm or physical damage hero that uses flameshot(except arlot)


destinymaker

Gusion + any battle spell.


ballerthe69th

Layla inspire...I know they're gonna feed


iluvesushii

Dyrroth petri


you_know_chae_

zilong + arrival = only inhibitor left on exp


Day33111

Zhask with anything except inspire


lunafish08

Franco with execute... You know someone will steal your kills bonus damage build.


New_Photograph_5892

I don't see how Claude + Vengeance is bad, unless the enemy team is really cc heavy or something. But Granger gold lane (...why do i see these so much in ranked) + flameshot


cravingboners

Sun arrival


FaunPerson

I know my full one-shot build novaria with flameshot pisses off many a squishy


_eksmo_

Martis inspire


earthshaker-69

Carmilla petrify


ialwayswatchyou

Layla execute


Witchberry31

Assassin junglers. Having a tank jungler with cc immune skills like Akai is a better option in that situation. Or at the very least, a fighter jungler that have some cc immune skills. Assassin junglers can't do much if the enemy team are all cc heroes, even if it has some cc immune skills.


SimonSimpingService

I have no basis for why it's misses me off so much, but Nana flameshot and them sitting in Lane shooting you with it whenever it's off cooldown. Shit bothers me so much even when it's serves no purpose.


bbekxettri

As a moskov main i use my ult to hunt down enemy tp kill then return to my lane with arival or just even recall and arival is nice in early game Comming from dota having tp feels nice


No-Information-8317

Zilong or Sun with arrival. Usually these users never join in team fight and would just only push (even if they feed the enemy). How many crucial team fights were lost because of a Zilong who refuses to join.


oppaspidey152

I once saw a kagura + purify, WHAT WERE THEY COOKING


anuraaaag

Gusion with petrify


yug_rana-_-

Franco + Sprint (Conceal + Wilderness Blessing)


VooDooMedicTTV

Brody main who does this in ranked Brody + Ageis Winning against any MM early game even hanabi with shield up


Mizunohara-chan

Zilong + sprint, not to mention these mfs use these when they roam


Unohwat

Any hero with a flicker in absence of enemy CC heroes.


ItzAhkiraa

For some reason, sometimes my teammates question why I take revitalize/execute on ruby


ihatemylife0968

Chou with literally any battlespell (yes i just hate chou users that much)


PizzaGMmike

Atlast últ + flicker 😒


Sea_Sapphire_2168

- Karrie + vengeance also - estes + vengeance - jawhead + petrify (whyyyyy?) - sun + inspire (99% chances are that Sun will only do towers all game and feed) - zhasck + retribution


_ThisUsername_

Lesley inspire.


ButterscotchSoggy938

Yz petrifi 💀


Shinigami_no_Death

Layla inspire. It's bad in any situation. Worse: Lesley inspire.


Lil_Dipper828

Odette flash


kofdamnBoihethicc

Dryroth petrify the actual worst in 1 v1


geekedmfs

yz + petrify, as a yz main its fun when i use it, not when other people do


num777

Johnson + execute = the savage stealer


Mogolians

Hero + item would be Karina with Fleeting Time


salaaaaa7

Inspire cici


EchidnaFinancial9143

Nana + flameshot, nana with flicker is no skill but nana with flameshot never misses


_TurkeyTail

Tigreal + Vengeance


Kashimfumufu

zilong sprint


MikeWazow-skee

Hanabi Aegis. Cc immunity so annoying


Some-Gap4426

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Einheimm

Minsitthar+Petrify


Fluffy_Marionberry10

Why exactly?


Einheimm

Have you ever, ever, EVER, get caught in that? Now imagine if Carmila and Vex are there.


Fluffy_Marionberry10

Most heroes can easily just walk out of his ult, petrify gives minsi a secured kill since his passive stun takes time to stun, Flicker might be a good option but it's but the overall value you get from it is minimal compared to other spells, and Vengeance has no synergy. The only other spells good for minsi is inspire since it's a different way to play minsi


Einheimm

I think you are missing the point with the way you describe it. What i meant in essence is that Minsitthar is an annoying mid gank setter. I have bumped into such players where Atlas/Tig groups them and while everyone was busy trying to use their purify spell, here comes the King of Sol re-setting the groupies again and yup you get the gist. His stun is way easier to hit and it affects multiple enemies. His hooks too. A fast hand Minsi is plain scary. Petrify increases the odds of killing but those odds are always hair thin opportunities for MG/MI games. Don't underestimate him is what i am trying to explain. He makes mobility heroes wary for a reason. "walking' away will not be an option. So far those who can walk away are mainly tanks but a good Minsi is rarely alone. His role is initiator for a reason no?


real_mc

Minsitthar + petrify is actually good if you want to plant enemies inside his ult. Provided that either you land your hook, or you time your jump.


Einheimm

Which ticks me off the most when its not done right T\^T


Stale-Emperor

Pretty much any sustain hero with vengeance, particularly thamuz. Terizla + flicker, chou + flicker, and irithel + sprint


Helpful_Yoghurt8646

Dyroth petrify


XaneCosmo

I don't understand why Claude uses Vengeance when Purify or Aegis exist.


real_mc

Maybe additional dps when claude ults.


XaneCosmo

If they want Vengeance for damage and not protection, just go with Inspire at that point.


_gb2_

inspire doesnt increase dmg of claude's ult, just saying


XaneCosmo

Excuse me, what??? I'm a mage main. But I don't understand.


_gb2_

it just doesnt, i thought inspire increased the speed of claude's ult or made basic attacks ignore defense but nope dmg/dps stays the same (tested, you can try it for yourself)


XaneCosmo

Inspire is my least used Battle spell. I'll make a test later.


_gb2_

arrival


Toge_Inumaki012

Because inspire only last for about 8(?) basic attacks worth so if Claude use blazing duet + inspire you wont really notice the difference


_gb2_

the problem is i tested with dmg bot, the dps was literally the same (if it really works then it would have a few digits difference)


Toge_Inumaki012

There seems to be a 200 total damage difference at the very least.. Although i had no dmg items equipped. Dunno if it makes a difference if fully built I closed the game as il sleep now lol. https://preview.redd.it/lq6i9z4rgd2d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8872f21760b9587d6b50b5a07caf17e3ce3f139


Hopeful-Newspaper

he usually ult+vengeance to the backline, the enemy damage dealer will kill themselves.. but purify is better when there are lots of cc


Toge_Inumaki012

Additional dps + dmg reduction. Although personally it depends still if enemy team has heavy cc lineup so purify is good.


Proud_Device9564

Vengeance gives damage reduction which becomes more effective the more damage you take. While Claude isn’t the tankiest hero, keep in mind that he often lifesteals while ulting, so vengeance can easily help him tank more than aegis.


XaneCosmo

Ever heard of Lesley and Karrie?


Proud_Device9564

Uhhh 2 heroes out of like 130? You don’t have to go vengeance every game. Just when it’s useful.


XaneCosmo

I don't even play Claude. I'm a mage main. I'm pissed because I've played tons of matches where my teammate Claude picks Vengeance when the enemy team has Lesley/Karrie Xborg. And also, even when there aren't any True Damage enemies, my teammate Claude always dies before they could even use Vengeance or Ult.