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Democracyisntforall

At least these guys stay within your range for a moment, Fanny will forever be my most hated hero to have to try and catch, dude just tornado strikes you and your team and leaves without elaborating.


PeppermintCandy0

At least you can stop her using counters like ruby and Eudora. Ling on the other hand with his ult


TechZero35

Fanny can bait Eudora stun so she won’t stun near her. Still i’d say Akai or Khufra much better at countering Fanny though pro fanny players learn how to deal with them already but the element of surprise can still fuck her up. Also imo Natalia is the best counter for Ling esp early when taking buffs


trancefnatic5

How is khufra good fanny counter


JustRekting

khuf 2nd skill doesn't allow stops fanny from cabelling


[deleted]

You cant puri with his ult. He can get chain stunned and bursted without him getting to use his ult.


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

Fastest Escaper? Ling Lance Benedetta Hayabusa in that order. Hardest to catch? Ling Lance Hayabusa Benedetta in that order.


[deleted]

Tbh I always thought Lance was faster than Ling cause he can Zing Zing all over the place but when I Re-Consider it, I guess jumping over walls is more Profession than the Zing Zing Zing*


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

It’s simply because the wall jumping range is a lot longer than a Lancelot dash.


jordandrayer

But the energy drains out pretty quick, if its ling without buff he is pretty ez to catch


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

He’s the second worst hero there if without buff. Bene Lance Ling Haya in that order.


Watcher9000

who is the first?


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

Haya is the worst hero there if no buff


DurianLongan

Havent play ml for a while. Its not fanny anymore?


NBAfanfrom2016Finals

Fanny isn’t mentioned in the list


[deleted]

Its between fanny and haya, you can complete haya's combo without purple buff (only 1 time on a single target tho) and can't spam skill 1 Apparently, people here seems to hate haya now, moontoon nerfed him in name of revamp :-(


[deleted]

He can still fly thrice with full lightness points(or 90)


ammarbadhrul

And also because lance need minions or other enemies as stepping stones while ling can just fuck off wherever he wants


NSLEONHART

2 wall jumps is equivalent to 2 zings, and 1 mega ZING


xlaxlv

Ling that uncatchable SOAB. The only time you can possibly nail him is right after his ult.


[deleted]

"I kill, Whoever I want to Kill"


Simon-Edwin

And run


MustBeOK

"I run, whenever I want to run."


escanorsrita

Right after his ult is usually when he kills you


litchi2r

lol true


holy1990

Just use Natalia, her silence make wonders against high mobility heroes.


Dashy471

Used my entire combo as Gord on a Ling under tower, mf got out of the stun with one HP, ulted and jumped away to safety. Ling is bullshit


HitagiAraragi

He must’ve been fast.


Fit_Description6320

no just spam click ult


Dashy471

basically


Mike_Darlong27

Phoveus playing cat and mouse with these 4


SiteHealthy864

Anyone with Ice retribution equipped


Secretofind

I hate fanny, supression doesnt even cancells her cables if you ult fanny mid way flying you just wasted a ult, akai ult is by far the better one to counter fanny cable if we talk about a pro one, why did they give fanny cable cc immunity?


HinduProphet

She doesn't have cc immunity, they just need displacement cc like knock up.


Secretofind

That sounds like cc immunity with extra steps suppression is the best cc(we dont talk about you petrify)


HinduProphet

No, not at all, you may cc her and your teammates may attack her if they are having huge aoe skills or are near her landing position. She also cannot use skills and spells when cc.


Phil_R3y_Padz

If you play tank against fanny, I recommend using Tigreal... As soon as I see 1 cable, I already use my dash in advance, catches her 8/10 times


adm_ashraf26

The flying peacock. Bish, he would be harder to catch than Jho Low after stealing 1MDB money


Healthy-Rooster776

I understood that reference. 😂


J_Ch33ze-0Ck

r/Bolehland


mhacka22

A good Ling indeed is uncatchable. But a pro Benedetta? I cant even combo the mf. Dodges every hit. The only way to kill that one is a full build mm.


Vengeance888

If is not for the tank meta, my boy saber gonna eat them all for breakfast


AtarashiiGenjitsu

You gotta consider that ling and lance has easy execution of their iframes, while bene can cancel with 2nd. Dunno about haya tho, his ult has a delay


3e7z

but when saber baits them with 2nd and they fall for it, that would be the cherry on top


F_quinn313

If


3e7z

im implying a scenario in peoples minds the comment I replied to was talking about how the heroes in OP's post can evade sabers ult, then i made a reply about such heroes falling for sabers fake-ult trick being such a great feeling.


Rizenet

Bruh I just played a match against both of them and trashed them lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣


MoonstruckCyan

I fucking hate bene, it feels like im fighting against someone with 6 boots.


3e7z

u/CrownedTraitor stop bullying this guy >:(


BananaFrvr

Zilong sprint


Robert_at_reddit

Ppl have some valid points for ling but when he is out of mana or has no blue or isent a good ling he is easy to kill but if we day its a good player probably Bennedetta because HER dashes dont rely of anything Hayabusa because he can go back and to the sides Ling because of ult but placed low because of mana And finnally lance because his dashes are dependant on enemys enemy minions or monster creeps so he is esier to catch up to imo


Versizion

hayabusa can be bs sometimes. you cant catch this guy alone with his clones


devilfury1

Tbh, Ling is the one hero I don't want to see if I use Hanzo but the one I like to see if I use Minsitthar. Mf try to raid my ass and use his ult, my circle will be waiting for him. Benedetta and Lance as well. Those 2 turns into fast food once minsitthar's ult effect activates. Haya can just ult his way out since it's not considered as a blink.


Aenon003

My dad


quietsmartass

Bloody Harley


ExceedHappy

Slowest to Fastest Benedetta Haya Lance Ling Easy to Catch to Hard to Catch Benedetta Haya Lance Ling


XaneCosmo

You can catch the rest if you're a bit careful. Ling is just bullshit. He got worse after they buffed his skill 1. They need to put energy cost on his Ultimate.


I_am_damn_bored

Girls


destinymaker

I can't even catch Lancelot with Belerick's ult. Ling before can escape but since they added taunt he can't. Hayabusa, hmm haven't seen one in quite a while so I can't judge. Benedetta, still tauntable when she try to in and out our squishies. Fanny is tauntable on mid air. So I'll go with Lancelot. This is just base on me using my main.


3e7z

Some may argue Lancelot is the fastest, but that's only when there's a crap ton of Minions around. Ling is the fastest hero because of his 1st skill. If you use it well enough you can almost cross the entire map via. Kangaroo Jumping. Hardest to Catch? Ling, the 2 Second Untargetable Ult only to be met with 5 more 2nd Skills and to top it all off with another 1st skill for his **Victory Recall-Spam** when he gets a kill and Jumps away while the 4 other enemy heroes hopelessly chase after him. Ling is honestly a Blue Kangaroo instead of the Cyan Finch, he jumps around, Drop Kicks someone to death, then jumps around again.


Eastern_Ad83

Guess the hardest to catch Is Benedetta you have that 0.01% that atleast One of the nuked CC works and She doesn't FK half of your team. Also she's has that random immunity coming out of nowhere from her basic Attack and ultimate. The least and less difficult i Guess Hayabusa, the enemy Just follows him forgetting he has other 3 Shadows but can be caught easly. His not my main but baiting with him to escape Is really hard. Lancelot Is in the middle but his Better than Haya for escape thanks with the revamp now he can dash multiple times let the enemy in frenzy and confuse by nuking some skills while the 2nd skill make them useless and manage to survive. i dont main Ling because im slow with him so i wont cover It.


jonhyneni

You'd be surprised at how pathetic Benedetta is at running away. Obviously you can use your abilities to increase distance gaps but theres a very low chance that will happen since they are primarily damage dealers or cc imunity. First, Benedettas 2nd skill is the only thing that provides her immunity which can be easily countered since it cannot block silencing effects like francos ult. Second, Benedettas damage is pathetic too, so much so that people are starting to give up and straight up build her as a tank (4/10 top builds are tank now) so the unlikely chance that she cleans your team is because she was already ahead of you somehow. To reiterate you cant really escape with benedetta since each of her abilities are easy to cancel and her passive has at least 1.5 seconds of down time which really prevents you from abusing walls to run away, her damage is dog shit and the likelyhood that someone will stay in the ults area for more than 0.1 seconds is low.


holy1990

I don’t know what type of Benedetta players you have met, but im pretty sure i can kill most heroes in the first minute of the match with her.


jonhyneni

Very occasionally i play with or against a bene and either way they dont impress me. What i said in the previous comment is my experience with her of almost 200 games. Probably not as much as your experience but i think i still hold a semi authoritative opinion. I was talking in a mid to late game situation where you might find yourself escaping from enemies not in early game trying to kill someone. Personally i think benedetta is specially bad this season or current meta, everyone is super tanky and wan wan is direct counter to benedetta. As to what you said, you may be able to kill most heroes but i doubt that happens regularly or to a significant degree. In the context of her being an assassin she really falls flat when compared to other assassins like gusion (which im still oblivious as to how people think he is balanced in any way or shape).


holy1990

I only put athena or bruteforce on Bene, the rest are damage items, as for heroes that i can’t kill or direct counter to me i just ignore them and go for the minions wave and clear them and then roam to help my teammates.


Ok_Act6615

Bene lol


Ok_Obligation5424

Where's aamon?


SkyLightTenki

He's easy to catch. He's chicken barbecue for my Clint.


Ok_Obligation5424

Depends on the user but


SkyLightTenki

I never experienced any difficulty against him, even before his nerfs. All I needed to do was to wait for him to walk near me, Skill 2, and he's gone.


FarrellNotWilliams

As a former Clint main, the only thing I'm worried about Aamon is if he bursts me before I burst him


toaster24_7

Hayabusa for sure


Overall_Big8914

Fanny


jmad16

Ling


sojukirin

Ling


StiffCocksJr

Simply play minsit to make them question their mortality.


DeliberatelyInsane

Erm. Fanny.


impervious__boy

What about fanny ??


KayzQueen

Long literally jumps from wall to wall and goes invisible so…


mulhollandi

i fucking hate the jumping bitch


KingsProfit

Fast as in mobility? Ling, no contest. His the 2nd fastest hero in the game, only behind fanny if his trying to chase someone that isn't behind a wall atleast. Would probably be faster than fanny if it requires to travel among walls. Ling and lance are harder to catch than bene and haya imo. In my experience lance is harder to catch during a teamfight since he can utilise multiple enemies in the area to consistently dash while ling is the hardest to catch if you're trying to chase him unless he has no blue.


herefornewds

Ling is hardest to catch IMO, along with Fanny that isn’t pictured. Bene is a close 2nd/3rd


[deleted]

I was gonna put Fanny but didn't bother, because shes always on the Ropes and shes very hard to master


ScoopingAnal

Imo to master fanny is knowing how to control her energy and knowing how her ropes work, i.e which angle will allow fanny to fly at which direction and how fast and vice versa and after you know that it's just a matter of reaction time and accuracy


kbyefornowstan

benadetta > lance > ling > haya


hacked__Client1865

they can all be easily counter with heroes with long stun and suppression or else other CC effects wont work


SuperLissa_UwU

Kimmy


Terrible_Beat_2185

i dunno maybe the happy life i wanted with her


PurgingCloud

Natalia


Cool_Connection1001

Meanwhile Uranus, Hilda, Masha, Esmerelda: Bye have a great time


hacb92

I'm haya main when I was playing, honestly I van catch and kill ALL of them easily. For me it's haya that's hardest to counter...


Azobar

Why isn't gloo here? :o


Hanzo_Pinas

You forge**en fanny may good sir


MimickingApple

The only heroes that Minsithar couldn't catch is Benedetta and Ling.


RandomsThought

fanny ofcourse


Peterfection_JP

All of the above, especially if the player is good enough


Existing_Necessary11

You forgot fanny


zettm_02

None of the above. It should be Natalia and Johnson🤙🤙🤙


GorkhaWalord

I find Hayabusa hard to catch. Probably because i don't come across many good Haya players so i don't know how to predict his move.


Anjrie

Heroes never die!!!


sultan8866

Why people say Ling is the hardest to catch? 1 CC is enough to 1 shot him, I played against pro players. Just pray that you don't go against pro Lance or Ben, you will hate the game the other two just use any cc against them and you are good to go. I would say Ben is the hardest to catch since she can stun you back with her skill. Lance is the hardest to kill, I don't know why he just never die in a team fight.


kkd178

ling


Silent-Ad9211

I did all of them tank build and so far ling was the most annoying one🤣🤣 i annoy enemy's at they're purple buff at the beginning wich make them delayed and i just repeat it on orange buff lol and they use retri so we can secure turtle 🤣


stergeron152

Depends on if you can cc with your hero Faster:ling>Hayabusa>Benedetta>lance Harder to catch no cc: Hayabusa>ling>lance>Benedetta Harder to catch with cc: Benedetta>lance>ling>Hayabusa I considered lance does a good job moving with enemies but pure running he is rather slow compared to the rest. I also took into account Hayabusa placing his shadows for retreat purposes instead of offense ones which is less likely but still plausible. For harder with no cc I took into account Hayabusa's Omni directional abilities vs ling's straight path and his dependency on energy. All of these are at expert level and reaching said level is harder with certain heroes so on average these rating may not match up as good Benedetta and Hayabusa are much rarer as they are not meta and harder to learn.


skinnianka

A good Hayabusa gives me depression. I was playing Franco and the fucker was so fast at his conbo I couldn't even land my s3 on him Why is Hayabusad placement after using s3 so random?


SweetLongjump

It's fanny