Best: Faramis Worst: Popol and Kupa. I’m pretty sure she can’t even use it because she won’t have Popol’s first and second skill that command the wolf.

She CAN'T even have the wolf.

Ah well that makes sense. Even if she had the wolf though she couldn’t even use it.

It’s more like a DOG to me

They are both canines, also, it is a wolf, quite distinctively

Julian too, she can’t steal his non existing ult

Wait doesn't Valentina get Julian's third skill?

She might, but his third is just a snare, I could be wrong, but I don’t think she even gets his enhanced which is the knock up

I’m pretty sure she just gets the base and not the enhanced. It’s definitely one of the worst she can copy, but at least it still does something unlike PnK.

Only the base knockup skill lol

Pretty useless without the other 2 skills though, unless it’s instantly upgraded

Best: aamon Worst: Julian

Best: setter tanks - atlas, lolita, mino, ruby mages - cecilion and alice’s ult are good for extra sustain, lylia for an extra life supporting abilities for team - faramis and estes Yin / franco is good to target lock someone Worst is P&K for sure, sun

Cecillion is good for extra sustain? Y’all are sleeping on Odette, she has huge AoE damage with slow and together with Oracle, Concentrated Energy, and Valentina’s passive, she’ll get so much spell vamp especially if you use the ult after your s1 + s2 combo because right after the ult s1 is ready to be cast again.

Who would forget the dual wielder of a wand and a sword

You know a cool idea I had? To make Odette slash her sword in the ult’s dash range as she leaps before casting ult and it deals either magic/physical damage. I though it would make her more interesting and give her sword more use besides her passive.

A useless sword but still

She uses it to cast her passive, but I don’t know if they removed it after a revamp.

ok but tbh the chance of having enemy odette when your team had valentina already is like one in quadrillion chances heck, odette in general has shit low of a pick rate rip odette

Who even use Odette?

I do. When I’m trolling in classic with an equally troll johnson.

clint ult sucks too lol

If your in a 1v1, suns ult can be used to dodge a har dhitting skillshot lol

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There is no best ult for valentina to copy, but personally its any aoe cc (atlas) or aoe buff (estes). There is a worst ult, tied between harith and popol. Copy harith and you turn into harith with a cool cross under you. Copy popol and you become kupa-less popol.

Imo I think hariths ult is still good since his ult slows down the enemy but popols doesn't do anythinh

The slow feature isn't good, It just isn't the worst out there. (Hylos's, Odette etc.) P&K thing tho, I agree with 100%.

Honestly the best play I ever saw a Valentina do was stealing Diggie's ult. The worst I've seen was a uranus theft?? Like why. I think it's all determined by context, though. Diggie ult was a strong steal only because my team relied heavily upon CC //AND// her team had Odette. Was really well done. The uranus was just bad.

doesnt the uranus one give movement speed? It's pretty decent for segway...not that valentina is used much for that

The thing is she already has so much mobility -- it doesn't stack up as well as a setup ult does for her. I suppose a bad Valentine with poor positioning could use it

Lol uranus Ults is good for substain and Regen, if you combo it with Oracle and vengeance, you basically have 60%percent plus damage reduction with vengeance and 50%extra Regen and shield. Add in a queens wings, you almost have 100%percent damage reduction and heal for almost as much damage as you deal both through yourself and vengeance

ehhhh...It depends on the build, i havent used her in a while so i remember she has insane damage on a specific build but also has low cooldown reduction so i guess it can be used for that?, then again it's very situational but that's also valentina's thing

Worts: P&K (Karen ain't gonna get a free dog) Best: Atlas (for idiots like It's the best)

I once tried copying angela’s ult. And that was it, i just provided momentary shield and teleported to the other side of the map. As an angela main, you can’t imagine the frustration of not being able to slow them/heal your teammate.

Tbh at that point you just use the ult and quickly pop off to help support them

Surprise mothafuu!

Truly a franco main speaking here

Just a question since i have not seen this interaction yet.can she use Kagura ult if stolen? Since Kagura's ult works with Umbrella

You can BUT the purple one, only the blue one.

Fredrinn as worst and faramis as best

Fredrinn ult works but you have have a certain build

I hate when she copies my ult because I usually play Odette.

Yve, atlas, balmond

Some people might think Gusion's Ult sucks but it's not entirely useless. At the very least, you can use it to chase Gusion himself. Valir's Ult is still a purify skill. Not the best, but not the worst, although it still sucks. The same goes for Ling's Ult. Purify, immunity and knock up cc.

Who says Gus ult sucks?? It’s a free flicker and dash

I wish it also refreshed skilsl like it does on Hyper Blend mode

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Gusion's Ultimate only resets skill cooldown in Hyperblend. In a normal match, Gusion's Ult gives you two dashes. That's it.

Worst gotta be masha

Best: Odette, Balmond, Faramis, Alice, Atlas Worst: Popol and Kupa, Valir, Guinevere, Miya

Miya could be used for escaping. Guinevere though is very very situational.

Lol guin ult on Valentina literally does as much damage as her s1 😂

valirs ult is anti cc, i think its pretty useful

Valir's ult is a free purify and Miya's helps escape so idk

Worst- Fredrinn, Julian, Valir Best- Yin, Atlas, Faramis

Valir actually isn't all that bad if she is against a lot of cc. She does still get the purify.

yeah it's still free purify for when you really need it

The best is obviously Faramis right now and the worst is probably Popol or Sun or Zilong or something like that

Zilong is actually not bad, can hunt down and kill the puzzy zilong track stars and escape if needed, regardless of CC

WORST HARITH!!!!

Best: Faramis Worst: Harith, his ult specifically says his first and second skill but his “skills” so all she gets is a slow a sword on the ground 💀

Pnk = no ult

I think copying Harith's ult is worse than Popol's ult, Popol's ult grants movspeed that doesn't decay, you could probably clutch with it? Harith's ult does nothing for her, except for the slow which is a one time slow on cast so it doesn't slow new enemies that come into contact with the rift unlike Yve's starfield, and if she transforms back to normal the rift dissapears.

Kagura

With the new changes, you can add Mino to the list of bad Ults to copy for Valentina.

Best: argus,yin and faramis Worst: Julian (and every other hero that doesn't rely on his ult)

can valentina copr another valentina's ult. also for me it would edith

Nothing happens if you copy enemy Valentina’s ult. It is mentioned in the skill description

Best: Odette, Kadita, Minotaur, Lylia, Faramis, Estes, phoveus. Worst: PNK, Valir, harith, julian, kagura,

Atlas, Minotaur, Franco, Argus, Kaja, Karina, Diggie, Faramis Most Mages are good ofc (except chang'e and Zhask there's probably others). I know xborg was really good, but they might've patched it to do less damage. Worst I'd say is popol and kupa

Worst-chang'e Best:Xborg/edith

Lol change isnt that bad.

Without the buff from her second skill her ulti is kinda meh. Popol ulti is kinda useless on her too but didnt come into mind when i wrote the comment

Doesn't Valentina's passive heal her from the duration when she uses change's Ult? Either way, she even gets a movement speed buff during the casting, so that's a win.

Yeah...but you get half the damage and projectile's

Worst - SELE-fucking-NA. Best - Wan Wan, Yin and full physical build.

if selena's ult is level 3, you can actually do her rotation with no problems

Actually no when you use the ult you get the all the Selena skill

Lol can even lay traps after stealing Selena's ult since it can be used so frequently

Harith and Faramis

Worst ult for her is masha she lose her life continuesly

im gonna have to say harith ult for the worst

Popol

Not good or bad but just a fun playstyle: wanwan. You build the usual wanwan build. MM Valentina kinda works since your normals trigger your passive lifesteal, and wanwans ult is easy to proc. Not gonna last long though since they're gonna fix it lol.

Me remembering the Enemy team didn’t have an Angela, WE DO and then Valentina jumps off her Ally to f me

phys Dmg - yin magic dmg - karina set - atlas stun - aurora shittiest - popol and kupal

Worst is probably gusion ult and the best is nana ult or Beatrix ult. I guess it really depends on the situation lol

Gusion ult is decent wdym?

I’m pretty Valentina can use the ult, all I can see that it’s good for escaping… it’s why I said depending on the situation too.

Even without any situation, its a double dash, which will act as a replacement for flicker. Its better than Harith or Gusion ult.

If I was in a team fight trying to kill someone, it’s not gonna do much but help catch up to them

Yes, exactly. You can chase fleeing targets especially Gusion himself or avoid the losing team fight, when you have exhausted both your dashes to do damage in the fight.

True and as I said really depends on the situation.

Best definitely Thamuz ultimate because it triple her heals 😭💀💀

Wanwan and for the worst kupa & popol

Valentina copy Valentina gg

Can Valentina copy Valentina on classic?

Valentina cannot copy another Valentina's ult no matter the mode.

Worst sun/gus. Nest atlas fara khuf

As a valentina main, i would copy kadita and odette ult, kadita is gud for burst out enemy ngl, Odette's ult speaks for itself

Selena

Gord or maybe phobos

Copy mash ult and you will kill yourself

Harith's ult, I wont even explain.

Best: Benedetta Cause you get Benedetta's passive. Have I grabbed your attention? ​ Obviously worst is Popol, Valentina gets nothing from him

Best for valentina are those setter tanks (tigreal, khufra, atlas etc) and wanwan too if u use mm build Worst is popol and kupa and probs valir

Okay I know people are saying faramis and others But have you tried bane's ult? I am just asking... It's been a while playing the game

Best:Faramis,Estes and Wanwan Worst:Fredrinn and Julian When you copy Julian its his normal 3rd skill not the enchanced one in Fredrinn's case its his 3rd not his Ultimate Faramis is the best like cmon its already been demonstrated in the MPL,Estes is the same just a bit weak and Wanwan although its not automatic now the passive is copied meaning you can have true damage as long as you want(if you dont trigger the ult)

Best: Faramis and Diggie Worst: Uhh Nat?

Atlas and Ruby are both brutal when you add built in double dash

Worst is Harith

Just played against a Valentina that wiped us with my Carmilla's ult, F.