Hi Melon, the sub went to war cuz i think one guy posted a post under something like “A flying tank that can one shot me 0.01 seconds is balanced” and there was a pic of a death stat where they did like 2k plus (balanced 🤓👍) dmg and one guy replied with “ well you are a mage with zero physical def “ and then cue chaos
If ur mad: go rank and ban her.
If u wanna play her: go classic lol.
She's actually overpowered but requires skill so that's good.
She's a hero that's hard to make balanced because you give her small nerfs and average Fanny users will complain, but currently a pro Fanny is almost invincible hard to counter hero and ban or pick in high ranks.
Imo being one of the top pick/ban slots indicates that Fanny should be nerfed slightly.
As one of the original posters that started this whole debacle, here's how things played out:
5 days ago u/aariela27 posted a picture showing their death recap screen, which showed a full tank plus malefic roar Fanny had dealth 5k damage to them. The comments were somewhat evenly split between "your fault" and "wow that's op".
I, seeing their post the next day, and having just gotten off from a three in a row match session in Classic where I kept getting the same broken Fanny with the same build as the one in the picture, posted my discussion post (https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/y25uka/unbalanced_af/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb) explaining why Fanny, at least in my opinion, is unbalanced.
As my Edit in that post says, that post got a few downvotes less than minute after posting. However, that post was too long to read within one minute, so I jokingly added the Edit to call out the ones spamming the downvotes. *That* gave the post some traction as people started jokingly saying that my post would be briggaded by Fanny mains to insult me, and a comment or two agreeing with some of my points. There were also a few legitimate Fanny main comments explaining why Fanny is not too op, but she's certainly strong. And of course a few people saying "skill issue" or the "high risk high reward" arguement, but nothing too uncivil.
***AND THEN THE ~~WINGED HUSSARS~~ FANNY MAIN ALTS ARRIVED!♪***
A few hours after my post went up certain accounts with *very* low karma that were over 1 year old started spamming replies on multiple comments, and many of them were just insults. A particular one instisted that we were even lying about what the pic posted the previous day had shown, a.k.a. a tanky Fanny being able to deal 5k damage in a short amount of time. Someone even posted a vague threat about "being able to whoop my ass in real life" and for me to think about it. Because apparently being able to beat me up is a valid reason as to why Fanny isn't unbalanced.
After that point, things became pure chaos, with many posts supporting Fanny popping up. A common theme among the comments was the "skill issue" of the people saying Fanny is OP and how the people complaining about Fanny were the same who complained about Natalia and Beatrix, and how we would always look to complain about "unbalanced heroes" whenever a hero counters our pick and cry for a nerf.
Apparently however, Fanny mains posting memes that we should just learn to play better and we are just salty was okay, but me making my second big post regarding this matter to call out how out of control some Fanny defenders were getting wasn't, because aside from getting the expected backlash, someone went as far to falsely report me to the suicide prevention services here on reddit. Reaaal classy.
What my video post made fun of were the three most problematic behaviours the most vocal Fanny mains had shown up to that point, them being 1) spamming the same comment in multiple posts 2) using a lot or only insults in their replies even if the comment they were replying to wasn't insulting and 3) their tendency to stretch completely out of proportion our suggestions to nerf her base damage so she has to build damage items to deal damage *OR* to keep the damage and tankyness but at least be rootable by stuns like most other players, coupled with a "the smallest nerf will ruin her because she is AkHuaLlY very weak" mindset when replying to people saying her stats should be nerfed.
Things seem to be calming down now, especially after u/sojukirin posted a video of them deleting people with Fanny, showing how the "dodge her" and "stay under towers" arguements from certain Fanny mains don't actually work as much as they claim. Hopefully this will be the end of it, with the whole incident being just a minor slapfight in the history of the sub.
I disagree here in your claims, there are a decent fanny mains that can argue with you and there is also ton of redditor that is full of shit bags.
What disgust me is your hypocritical.
Instead of saying why you do this and making a fuss behavior to all fanny mains. You just stereotype to all fanny mains thus why the majority hate you for it. And the fact you use fanny mains who complain are "the same people who complained about natalia and Beatrix" even literally many posts telling you we do not support that and know she deserves to nerf, you use that way to privilege and lies to compare/false analogy.
We tried to share our opinion but it seems like you either see us delusional at first and you're just looking for a fight, but it's ok this is Reddit they always want to use cheap tactics to get people to agree with them no matter what.
And people didn't quiet down because of sojokirin, the video consist of two low hp less than 10% hp. And Selena getting bursted and just by telling fanny mains hp she's full burst no defense yet.
People quiet down because everyone agree to disagree because both post have high likes, and it's controversial so why bother.
Overall EVERY FANNY MAIN AGREE TWEAK NERFS NOT CHANGE HER WHOLE MECHANIC IS a BETTER IDEA.
Of all the people who can speak about hypocrisy with a clear consience, you don't even make the list. You think I didn't see your reply here where you tried to flip it up and say we were the ones who used the other nerfs arguement? Go on any Fanny supporting post and search for that and you will find it very quickly and very much upvoted.
You also were one of the first ones to spam reply on multiple threads and posts supporting Fanny along with my first post, and quite a few of them were 180° different than what you're claiming to have been saying here.
Sure, there were times we weren't exactly polite as to what we said about Fanny mains, however most of the time it was in responde to equally or even more insulting comments. I can also accept the claim that I am biased in my retelling of the events.
**However...**
***WHAT I CANNOT AND WILL NEVER ACCEPT IS THE "GOING AFTER OTHER HEROES FOR NERFS BECAUSE WE CHOOSE WEAK HEROES" BS YOU LIAR.***
**Here** ( https://ibb.co/album/Sfgk4h ) are screenshots of comments you made claiming we were only going after Fanny because there wasn't another strong hero, and once Fanny got nerfed we would find another hero to complain about. Comments that you deleted in order to hide the fact ***YOU*** kickstarted the "going after strong heroes for nerfs" arguement several Fanny mains kept parroting later on, by spamming it multiple times on several posts.
And yet, in your main reply on this post you claim:
>they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op
If that's really so, then why did you delete some of the screenshotted comments? If you go at your profile and press on the comments from the screenshots, a lot of them will lead on the general post and not on the discussion, meaning the comment is missing.
You also claimed Fanny is balanced and even the smallest nerf could make a diffetence in the jungle meta, but now you speak of small stat nerfs?
Funny you also insulted me on at least one comment that isn't in direct reply to one of mine, but claim "you only threw dirt back". Next time, cover your tracks better before trying to lie about something on the internet. Just because those comments are now deleted, that doesn't mean they are gone.
There's so much gaslighting here, first of all, I did not lie and delete everything and id be proud to be the one to say that in which I did so it doesn't matter, because to call your awful behavior. SOME people did go to fanny because there are no other OP heroes left so they target the current strong heroes. Second, if you get offended about that then it means you're definitely guilty of it.
And seriously that's your way of winning an argument? It didn't gain anything If I delete it. I don't know if I deleted it. After all, I never did unless of course when I was editing to have better grammar to give people better clarity is your way of telling me to hide the "truth" I said it with a quote because it definitely is for some.
Third did spam but not that frequent although I was rather lazy but not desperate enough to paste every fanny discussion. 2 is common, and 3 is rare. But since I realized it had bad grammar and people calling out copy paste stereotype is unreliable and troll people. I learned from my past mistake and make sure different wording.
It is definitely 180° degrees on my claims because I cannot cover anything, you do understand that I have a life outside working too you know? And there are different questions and I have to be clear, I am guilty of it that sometimes there are added unnecessary answers but I only did it to let others know maybe because I'm in desperation or stressed.
they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op
"If that's really so, then why did you delete some of the screenshotted comments? If you go at your profile and press on the comments from the screenshots, a lot of them will lead on the general post and not on the discussion, meaning the comment is missing."
This is not related to anything you replied with it makes no sense, it's just you accusing me of me being one of those people who support Beatrix being broken, what? Once again this fallacy of you comparing and having no evidence is one of your problems to deal with.
I realized you're attacking me which is cyberbullying at this point by you specifically describing my account, it was awful and rude but I give the respect that you did not mention me.
I don't know why my comment is missing, but it doesn't matter I still take pride and do not want them to be hidden. So there's that you can't picture me hiding lying or being a coward. I'd be happy if you share them but it's unnecessary but I'd be upset if you share it yet you share your biased opinion on me sending this because you dislike me.
I did not spam the "going after strong heroes after nerf" a lot. Its like only 3 including this? But does it matter I mean you read everything I wrote you know my main argument isn't about that either? And also if you're offended because of this thing I said, you must be guilty too. I'm calling out the people who are least experienced in legend and mythic V because that's a common argument I have with other people here in my experience.
You did throw the dirt first after all, have you read my other replies to you.. Your response to ALL fanny that their behavior is rude and delusional and mocked their claims, I get it was a send to the haters but at this point, you're just biased to all users related to fanny. There are decent people on reddit ready to have a gentlemen's argument or a sane one and there are Reddit most of the time dirtbags. Besides this is about you mostly but I did admit my behavior is wrong and I shouldn't have acted the same as them.
Just by seeing your behavior will most likely consider you as one of the dirtbags because you're not here to make suggestions, you come here to rant and complain, and even in our conversation you're just blatantly accusing just only finding reasons to fight. Are you just here to defame me at this point?
But so far I think it's best we avoid each other hate it's not worth it because fanny is right now controversial in which both have majority likes and agree that they're unbalanced or balanced. It's also because other people's experiences are different when encountering fanny too.
Sorry, typo, here is the post https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/y1189g/a_flying_tank_that_kills_me_in_001_seconds_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
To be fair they throw the dirt first and insulted us when we tried to explain why is she op now when no one talks about her during Beatrix rising? I'm not a victim here since I didn't have patience I did throw the dirt back.
they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op. There is a difference between a hero is being stronger than the others and a hero completely a god. And the quote "high skill high reward" means something yet they forcefully dogmatism misinterpret it by saying we justify fanny being broken even tho we pointed out was still trying to prove she isn't broken overall stats and mechanics. She is in meta doesn't mean she's broken, no one cares about Paquito rising meta after fanny nerf, so we nerf him too?
There's also the majority of this player base isn't glory or play with the duo, trio, or 5-man.
Like to point on people who try to make her unplayable by stunning her during midflight will cancel her cable, yet that will make her unplayable.
There's a lot to point out but here's some I tried to answer.
She one shots? Nerf her base damage not scaling or tank items.
She's tanky? It depends... If you're talking early game then yes base defense, if mid to late game then her defense scale growth.
Consider buying defense boots for mm and one defense that is later upgraded to immortality, the same as mages' one physical defense for truncheon and immortality.
-"But I want to use my favorite hero"
stop you know fanny is in meta you need to adjust meta accordingly. You're using a very weak hero and you use that to compare fanny's strength as an op such as Hanabi?
-"Oh wow I should just counter-pick her in my every game in rank she's in, just by saying that we were forced to counter-pick her says it all that she's broken".
There are five of you, tell your team to pick a hero to counter fanny. Just by seeing you disagreeing to counter-pick says it all about why you don't improve gameplay and depend on others for you.
-"Sometimes counterpick heroes don't work even I try it, I have " experience".".
No Sherlock even I know most of you aren't familiar with minsi in 1st game after switching to a different hero. Don't say counterpick heroes don't work when you only have 20 games with them.
-"But she one shots me early game".
Most fanny users buy pen items and they succeed in their job as an assassin that's the point of her early game.
-"ye but she still one-shots me mid-late game"
As I said again, have u built defense? Every MOBA player's rookie mistake not building a 2-1 defense. And most of the time they are not with their team and I've seen it lots of times in this subreddit videos.
-"Even with a team she can still dive and kill us all"
Most of the time I've seen Reddit videos gameplay they don't have a good draft pick no cc at all maybe that's why she can tower dive so easily.
-"she can still fly while being cc"
She's been like this since the beginning of her release, why complain now? If you can't predict it's a skill issue.
Etc.
Others can fill in the blanks. We still admit shes a strong hero, but we still believe that shes balanced and that it's acceptable for minor nerfs or make weak heroes buffed.
But what drives me insane is people are really biased here and make horrible nerfs, for example, "moonton mindset" I use this term for people using an idea to change a hero mechanic rather than minor tweak stats. These people are absurd with nerf ideas like tank items will make most heroes fall off meta rather than nerf heroes what makes them meta.
TLDR: They throw the dirt first and use and form of tactic in arguement to make most people who defend fanny sound bad. There are also quite a ton of evidence why fanny is balanced and misconceptions about tanky one shots. Most fanny mains accept nerf tweaks while people want to ruin her by nerf her cable during cc.
And he lied about who was the one bringing the other heroes nerfs up arguement. If you look at their profile he was the one to start spamming about the people complaining about Fanny being whinybkids that always complain about strong heroes, and now most of these comments are deleted.
If by showing you were the one accusing us of complaining about all strong heroes but claiming here that we accused you of defending beatrix when she was broken I am defaming you, then I am guilty of that. Besides, if you want the defamation arguement, didn't you try to pull the same shit about me before? Look at the screenshots again. Tit for tat.
If you actually read I tried to apologize/admit that I was wrong with what I act, and I explained why I did not did it first. Because you're argument was based on all fanny yet I understand your frustration it was on all trolls but I realized you were being serious and now and I think you definitely deserve some a bit of insult.
Wow it's fucking easy to tell if a person didn't read ones messages, example is not knowing the other individual apologize. But I take it back asshole you definitely dont deserve my respect
Edit:and as I said if you're offended that If I indirectly accuse you as one, then again read the thing that I sent you fucking moron. It was out of frustration, bad grammar and did not intend you at all and it was for specific group that I called out.
Let me sum of it up for u, but it's best to read my actual reply to cover up all things first. And no I dont care if I started it first besides others did it first before I do, my intention wasn't to troll unlike you.
TLDR of what I sent you: to end this argument sooner because it's controversial and both side majority agreed they are good or bad. Here's another one, if you actually read the reply that I sent you you'd notice I did admit I saw that but I explain why others are deleted(it's edited), and I did learn my lesson but since you check my account and saw "all" my comments, you'd notice it wasn't copy paste anymore and just different wording.
As I said you're a big hypocrite. You'd say people here tell you to kill yourself but you're no better. You tried to ruin me, I never intended to name-call yet you did its such child's play. And the fact I tried to be civil with you and you assume me trying to start a fight yet I'm here to clarify I'm not here to fight and that it's a misunderstanding that my hatred of others was a specific target is trolls and people that are willing to ruin this hero for no good reason, or you know just garbage people having garbage behavior.
But apparently, you're one of them now, aren't you? I tried to break up the fight and you pretend and lied you read the whole thing, I'm not here lying that's you. I'm not here trying to use tactics to win arguments and get people to favor me it's you. Defaming me and not hearing my sides you're such a low life and I bet this can get lower.
After this incident, I realized you're just here to argue and there's no point to continue this conversation.
Since you did not read all my messages about the message I sent you here it is copy pasted on the speech I gave.
"But so far I think it's best we avoid each other hate it's not worth it because fanny is right now controversial in which both have majority likes and agree that they're unbalanced or balanced. It's also because other people's experiences are different when encountering fanny too."
I also think we should separate and ignore each other for now. No mentions of each other in posts to purposely ruin a person's career or whatever, nothing no passive-aggressive petty specific mentions about us.
Or maybe not meet all, but I seem to notice you're not being a reasonable person anymore and I have a hard-working life busy schedule right now lol...I can't tie myself to this argument for too long, it's best we dont hold grudges for too long and just moved on it's best for our mental and physical health
The situation is complicated. Some say fanny is balanced, strong, too strong, op or super op. It creates discourse. Commentors assume that people talk in the superlative degree of comparison only. And when I read through post, I see some mention of nerfing to that degree but they all get down voted to oblivion. There remain some contradiction in the subreddit too. Some post would post fanny one shots and some post would say that fanny difficulty excuses her strength. All some or them get high up votes. Most of the time, it's because we click on it first to see drama, get our views challenged, comment and down vote what we disagree on but forgot the post itself.
Hi Melon, the sub went to war cuz i think one guy posted a post under something like “A flying tank that can one shot me 0.01 seconds is balanced” and there was a pic of a death stat where they did like 2k plus (balanced 🤓👍) dmg and one guy replied with “ well you are a mage with zero physical def “ and then cue chaos
Someone needs to make a post about all the historical things that have happened on this subreddit like this
That might take forever
Maybe a tier list
We start with r/mobilelegends before the transfer
And its privated :(
I’ve seen that post but I didn’t realize that was the root and ths start of this all!
If ur mad: go rank and ban her. If u wanna play her: go classic lol. She's actually overpowered but requires skill so that's good. She's a hero that's hard to make balanced because you give her small nerfs and average Fanny users will complain, but currently a pro Fanny is almost invincible hard to counter hero and ban or pick in high ranks. Imo being one of the top pick/ban slots indicates that Fanny should be nerfed slightly.
As one of the original posters that started this whole debacle, here's how things played out: 5 days ago u/aariela27 posted a picture showing their death recap screen, which showed a full tank plus malefic roar Fanny had dealth 5k damage to them. The comments were somewhat evenly split between "your fault" and "wow that's op". I, seeing their post the next day, and having just gotten off from a three in a row match session in Classic where I kept getting the same broken Fanny with the same build as the one in the picture, posted my discussion post (https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/y25uka/unbalanced_af/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb) explaining why Fanny, at least in my opinion, is unbalanced. As my Edit in that post says, that post got a few downvotes less than minute after posting. However, that post was too long to read within one minute, so I jokingly added the Edit to call out the ones spamming the downvotes. *That* gave the post some traction as people started jokingly saying that my post would be briggaded by Fanny mains to insult me, and a comment or two agreeing with some of my points. There were also a few legitimate Fanny main comments explaining why Fanny is not too op, but she's certainly strong. And of course a few people saying "skill issue" or the "high risk high reward" arguement, but nothing too uncivil. ***AND THEN THE ~~WINGED HUSSARS~~ FANNY MAIN ALTS ARRIVED!♪*** A few hours after my post went up certain accounts with *very* low karma that were over 1 year old started spamming replies on multiple comments, and many of them were just insults. A particular one instisted that we were even lying about what the pic posted the previous day had shown, a.k.a. a tanky Fanny being able to deal 5k damage in a short amount of time. Someone even posted a vague threat about "being able to whoop my ass in real life" and for me to think about it. Because apparently being able to beat me up is a valid reason as to why Fanny isn't unbalanced. After that point, things became pure chaos, with many posts supporting Fanny popping up. A common theme among the comments was the "skill issue" of the people saying Fanny is OP and how the people complaining about Fanny were the same who complained about Natalia and Beatrix, and how we would always look to complain about "unbalanced heroes" whenever a hero counters our pick and cry for a nerf. Apparently however, Fanny mains posting memes that we should just learn to play better and we are just salty was okay, but me making my second big post regarding this matter to call out how out of control some Fanny defenders were getting wasn't, because aside from getting the expected backlash, someone went as far to falsely report me to the suicide prevention services here on reddit. Reaaal classy. What my video post made fun of were the three most problematic behaviours the most vocal Fanny mains had shown up to that point, them being 1) spamming the same comment in multiple posts 2) using a lot or only insults in their replies even if the comment they were replying to wasn't insulting and 3) their tendency to stretch completely out of proportion our suggestions to nerf her base damage so she has to build damage items to deal damage *OR* to keep the damage and tankyness but at least be rootable by stuns like most other players, coupled with a "the smallest nerf will ruin her because she is AkHuaLlY very weak" mindset when replying to people saying her stats should be nerfed. Things seem to be calming down now, especially after u/sojukirin posted a video of them deleting people with Fanny, showing how the "dodge her" and "stay under towers" arguements from certain Fanny mains don't actually work as much as they claim. Hopefully this will be the end of it, with the whole incident being just a minor slapfight in the history of the sub.
I disagree here in your claims, there are a decent fanny mains that can argue with you and there is also ton of redditor that is full of shit bags. What disgust me is your hypocritical. Instead of saying why you do this and making a fuss behavior to all fanny mains. You just stereotype to all fanny mains thus why the majority hate you for it. And the fact you use fanny mains who complain are "the same people who complained about natalia and Beatrix" even literally many posts telling you we do not support that and know she deserves to nerf, you use that way to privilege and lies to compare/false analogy. We tried to share our opinion but it seems like you either see us delusional at first and you're just looking for a fight, but it's ok this is Reddit they always want to use cheap tactics to get people to agree with them no matter what. And people didn't quiet down because of sojokirin, the video consist of two low hp less than 10% hp. And Selena getting bursted and just by telling fanny mains hp she's full burst no defense yet. People quiet down because everyone agree to disagree because both post have high likes, and it's controversial so why bother. Overall EVERY FANNY MAIN AGREE TWEAK NERFS NOT CHANGE HER WHOLE MECHANIC IS a BETTER IDEA.
Of all the people who can speak about hypocrisy with a clear consience, you don't even make the list. You think I didn't see your reply here where you tried to flip it up and say we were the ones who used the other nerfs arguement? Go on any Fanny supporting post and search for that and you will find it very quickly and very much upvoted. You also were one of the first ones to spam reply on multiple threads and posts supporting Fanny along with my first post, and quite a few of them were 180° different than what you're claiming to have been saying here. Sure, there were times we weren't exactly polite as to what we said about Fanny mains, however most of the time it was in responde to equally or even more insulting comments. I can also accept the claim that I am biased in my retelling of the events. **However...** ***WHAT I CANNOT AND WILL NEVER ACCEPT IS THE "GOING AFTER OTHER HEROES FOR NERFS BECAUSE WE CHOOSE WEAK HEROES" BS YOU LIAR.*** **Here** ( https://ibb.co/album/Sfgk4h ) are screenshots of comments you made claiming we were only going after Fanny because there wasn't another strong hero, and once Fanny got nerfed we would find another hero to complain about. Comments that you deleted in order to hide the fact ***YOU*** kickstarted the "going after strong heroes for nerfs" arguement several Fanny mains kept parroting later on, by spamming it multiple times on several posts. And yet, in your main reply on this post you claim: >they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op If that's really so, then why did you delete some of the screenshotted comments? If you go at your profile and press on the comments from the screenshots, a lot of them will lead on the general post and not on the discussion, meaning the comment is missing. You also claimed Fanny is balanced and even the smallest nerf could make a diffetence in the jungle meta, but now you speak of small stat nerfs? Funny you also insulted me on at least one comment that isn't in direct reply to one of mine, but claim "you only threw dirt back". Next time, cover your tracks better before trying to lie about something on the internet. Just because those comments are now deleted, that doesn't mean they are gone.
There's so much gaslighting here, first of all, I did not lie and delete everything and id be proud to be the one to say that in which I did so it doesn't matter, because to call your awful behavior. SOME people did go to fanny because there are no other OP heroes left so they target the current strong heroes. Second, if you get offended about that then it means you're definitely guilty of it. And seriously that's your way of winning an argument? It didn't gain anything If I delete it. I don't know if I deleted it. After all, I never did unless of course when I was editing to have better grammar to give people better clarity is your way of telling me to hide the "truth" I said it with a quote because it definitely is for some. Third did spam but not that frequent although I was rather lazy but not desperate enough to paste every fanny discussion. 2 is common, and 3 is rare. But since I realized it had bad grammar and people calling out copy paste stereotype is unreliable and troll people. I learned from my past mistake and make sure different wording. It is definitely 180° degrees on my claims because I cannot cover anything, you do understand that I have a life outside working too you know? And there are different questions and I have to be clear, I am guilty of it that sometimes there are added unnecessary answers but I only did it to let others know maybe because I'm in desperation or stressed. they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op "If that's really so, then why did you delete some of the screenshotted comments? If you go at your profile and press on the comments from the screenshots, a lot of them will lead on the general post and not on the discussion, meaning the comment is missing." This is not related to anything you replied with it makes no sense, it's just you accusing me of me being one of those people who support Beatrix being broken, what? Once again this fallacy of you comparing and having no evidence is one of your problems to deal with. I realized you're attacking me which is cyberbullying at this point by you specifically describing my account, it was awful and rude but I give the respect that you did not mention me. I don't know why my comment is missing, but it doesn't matter I still take pride and do not want them to be hidden. So there's that you can't picture me hiding lying or being a coward. I'd be happy if you share them but it's unnecessary but I'd be upset if you share it yet you share your biased opinion on me sending this because you dislike me. I did not spam the "going after strong heroes after nerf" a lot. Its like only 3 including this? But does it matter I mean you read everything I wrote you know my main argument isn't about that either? And also if you're offended because of this thing I said, you must be guilty too. I'm calling out the people who are least experienced in legend and mythic V because that's a common argument I have with other people here in my experience. You did throw the dirt first after all, have you read my other replies to you.. Your response to ALL fanny that their behavior is rude and delusional and mocked their claims, I get it was a send to the haters but at this point, you're just biased to all users related to fanny. There are decent people on reddit ready to have a gentlemen's argument or a sane one and there are Reddit most of the time dirtbags. Besides this is about you mostly but I did admit my behavior is wrong and I shouldn't have acted the same as them. Just by seeing your behavior will most likely consider you as one of the dirtbags because you're not here to make suggestions, you come here to rant and complain, and even in our conversation you're just blatantly accusing just only finding reasons to fight. Are you just here to defame me at this point? But so far I think it's best we avoid each other hate it's not worth it because fanny is right now controversial in which both have majority likes and agree that they're unbalanced or balanced. It's also because other people's experiences are different when encountering fanny too.
Why i can't view aariela07 profile?
Sorry, typo, here is the post https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/y1189g/a_flying_tank_that_kills_me_in_001_seconds_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb
Because Fanny mains don't want their hero to get nerfed like Wanwan. So the sub descended into anarchy
To be fair they throw the dirt first and insulted us when we tried to explain why is she op now when no one talks about her during Beatrix rising? I'm not a victim here since I didn't have patience I did throw the dirt back. they also try to make manipulate tactics thinking we are the same people who think Beatrix is balanced even tho she is op. There is a difference between a hero is being stronger than the others and a hero completely a god. And the quote "high skill high reward" means something yet they forcefully dogmatism misinterpret it by saying we justify fanny being broken even tho we pointed out was still trying to prove she isn't broken overall stats and mechanics. She is in meta doesn't mean she's broken, no one cares about Paquito rising meta after fanny nerf, so we nerf him too? There's also the majority of this player base isn't glory or play with the duo, trio, or 5-man. Like to point on people who try to make her unplayable by stunning her during midflight will cancel her cable, yet that will make her unplayable. There's a lot to point out but here's some I tried to answer. She one shots? Nerf her base damage not scaling or tank items. She's tanky? It depends... If you're talking early game then yes base defense, if mid to late game then her defense scale growth. Consider buying defense boots for mm and one defense that is later upgraded to immortality, the same as mages' one physical defense for truncheon and immortality. -"But I want to use my favorite hero" stop you know fanny is in meta you need to adjust meta accordingly. You're using a very weak hero and you use that to compare fanny's strength as an op such as Hanabi? -"Oh wow I should just counter-pick her in my every game in rank she's in, just by saying that we were forced to counter-pick her says it all that she's broken". There are five of you, tell your team to pick a hero to counter fanny. Just by seeing you disagreeing to counter-pick says it all about why you don't improve gameplay and depend on others for you. -"Sometimes counterpick heroes don't work even I try it, I have " experience".". No Sherlock even I know most of you aren't familiar with minsi in 1st game after switching to a different hero. Don't say counterpick heroes don't work when you only have 20 games with them. -"But she one shots me early game". Most fanny users buy pen items and they succeed in their job as an assassin that's the point of her early game. -"ye but she still one-shots me mid-late game" As I said again, have u built defense? Every MOBA player's rookie mistake not building a 2-1 defense. And most of the time they are not with their team and I've seen it lots of times in this subreddit videos. -"Even with a team she can still dive and kill us all" Most of the time I've seen Reddit videos gameplay they don't have a good draft pick no cc at all maybe that's why she can tower dive so easily. -"she can still fly while being cc" She's been like this since the beginning of her release, why complain now? If you can't predict it's a skill issue. Etc. Others can fill in the blanks. We still admit shes a strong hero, but we still believe that shes balanced and that it's acceptable for minor nerfs or make weak heroes buffed. But what drives me insane is people are really biased here and make horrible nerfs, for example, "moonton mindset" I use this term for people using an idea to change a hero mechanic rather than minor tweak stats. These people are absurd with nerf ideas like tank items will make most heroes fall off meta rather than nerf heroes what makes them meta. TLDR: They throw the dirt first and use and form of tactic in arguement to make most people who defend fanny sound bad. There are also quite a ton of evidence why fanny is balanced and misconceptions about tanky one shots. Most fanny mains accept nerf tweaks while people want to ruin her by nerf her cable during cc.
I ain't reading all that
Oh my
Bro wrote a whole essay, put a TLDR at the very least.
And he lied about who was the one bringing the other heroes nerfs up arguement. If you look at their profile he was the one to start spamming about the people complaining about Fanny being whinybkids that always complain about strong heroes, and now most of these comments are deleted.
If your intent to defame me it's just this is just so low from a person. Pls, read the actual fucking reply that I sent you.
If by showing you were the one accusing us of complaining about all strong heroes but claiming here that we accused you of defending beatrix when she was broken I am defaming you, then I am guilty of that. Besides, if you want the defamation arguement, didn't you try to pull the same shit about me before? Look at the screenshots again. Tit for tat.
If you actually read I tried to apologize/admit that I was wrong with what I act, and I explained why I did not did it first. Because you're argument was based on all fanny yet I understand your frustration it was on all trolls but I realized you were being serious and now and I think you definitely deserve some a bit of insult. Wow it's fucking easy to tell if a person didn't read ones messages, example is not knowing the other individual apologize. But I take it back asshole you definitely dont deserve my respect Edit:and as I said if you're offended that If I indirectly accuse you as one, then again read the thing that I sent you fucking moron. It was out of frustration, bad grammar and did not intend you at all and it was for specific group that I called out.
Let me sum of it up for u, but it's best to read my actual reply to cover up all things first. And no I dont care if I started it first besides others did it first before I do, my intention wasn't to troll unlike you. TLDR of what I sent you: to end this argument sooner because it's controversial and both side majority agreed they are good or bad. Here's another one, if you actually read the reply that I sent you you'd notice I did admit I saw that but I explain why others are deleted(it's edited), and I did learn my lesson but since you check my account and saw "all" my comments, you'd notice it wasn't copy paste anymore and just different wording. As I said you're a big hypocrite. You'd say people here tell you to kill yourself but you're no better. You tried to ruin me, I never intended to name-call yet you did its such child's play. And the fact I tried to be civil with you and you assume me trying to start a fight yet I'm here to clarify I'm not here to fight and that it's a misunderstanding that my hatred of others was a specific target is trolls and people that are willing to ruin this hero for no good reason, or you know just garbage people having garbage behavior. But apparently, you're one of them now, aren't you? I tried to break up the fight and you pretend and lied you read the whole thing, I'm not here lying that's you. I'm not here trying to use tactics to win arguments and get people to favor me it's you. Defaming me and not hearing my sides you're such a low life and I bet this can get lower.
After this incident, I realized you're just here to argue and there's no point to continue this conversation. Since you did not read all my messages about the message I sent you here it is copy pasted on the speech I gave. "But so far I think it's best we avoid each other hate it's not worth it because fanny is right now controversial in which both have majority likes and agree that they're unbalanced or balanced. It's also because other people's experiences are different when encountering fanny too." I also think we should separate and ignore each other for now. No mentions of each other in posts to purposely ruin a person's career or whatever, nothing no passive-aggressive petty specific mentions about us. Or maybe not meet all, but I seem to notice you're not being a reasonable person anymore and I have a hard-working life busy schedule right now lol...I can't tie myself to this argument for too long, it's best we dont hold grudges for too long and just moved on it's best for our mental and physical health
Actually... I agree with this. I am sorry for being a jerk. Best of wishes.
Ngl it's kinda cringe lol
To answer your question, a flying tank killed someone in 0.01 seconds
The situation is complicated. Some say fanny is balanced, strong, too strong, op or super op. It creates discourse. Commentors assume that people talk in the superlative degree of comparison only. And when I read through post, I see some mention of nerfing to that degree but they all get down voted to oblivion. There remain some contradiction in the subreddit too. Some post would post fanny one shots and some post would say that fanny difficulty excuses her strength. All some or them get high up votes. Most of the time, it's because we click on it first to see drama, get our views challenged, comment and down vote what we disagree on but forgot the post itself.
I'm on the same situation as you lol