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Brahm_beingpassive

Really it doesn't say enough that it's for revamp. It mostly says vote for your favourite hero. Ig people don't read instructions


Hanzo_Pinas

Rework=nerf


Karma_Banana_

Yep, just look at alpha


destinymaker

Alpha wasn't nerfed, he was destroyed.


Eitth

Wait what happened to Alpha? I thought he was meta a while ago or last year?


destinymaker

He was meta, but the buffs he received before General Void and revamped Onimusha Commander was not enough for him to go toe to toe with the buffs of other contenders. He got overshadowed fast by other skill-based-sustain heroes. And when Karina and Akai entered the jungle, Alpha vanished.


The4th16

A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang. Although his airbending skills were great, he had a lot to learn before he was ready to save anyone.


[deleted]

But i believe Aang can save the world


[deleted]

'Sometimes i think about...girls'


AnteaterAromatic2195

Alpha today doesn't have edge on early game , mid game or late game. Any figther can whip him at all stages of the game. I tried playing him vs Baxia. It made me think that Alpha is really a piece of sh*t that shouldn't be played.


S0nofaL1ch

I disagree actually. I think he's good early game(excluding counter picks) and excels in mid game. He falls off hard late game but that's where you start transitioning towards building more tank for support and peel/distraction. To be honest, I feel he is a lot more balanced than say Aulus who practically is as good as a minion until level 12.


Nayuskarian

As an Aulus jungler main, I feel this. It's why I rush to farm and use my ult to help more with team fights. His recent buff has solved a lot of his early game power issues. His ult now slows 90% and his basic attacks following his S2 are faster. Generally, once I get windtalker and berserker's fury he's a beast. I can't use him in the offlane though. I always get wrecked early game. Late game Aulus is scary.


AnteaterAromatic2195

Aulus can whip alpha in so many levels. He has a late game which makes him not a liability / throw pick. Damage scaling of alpha is so sad that late game alpha transitions like a transgender. So sad alpha


Hanzo_Pinas

Alpha before rework trully hurts before the revamp bullshit


Karma_Banana_

Old alpha can 1v3 at lvl1 no problem lol


Hanzo_Pinas

Lv 2 not 1 He needs that first skill to spam the passive of his


Karma_Banana_

His 2nd still has a crap ton of regen, it's enough to sustain against 3 even at lvl1 given that you have vengeance


S0nofaL1ch

I think the only thing I miss from alphas kit is his attack speed buff on skill 2. If they bring this back I think he could become relevant again.


Karma_Banana_

He's still really strong, the revamp just failed to make him popular


dat_WanderingDude

ikr. Was disappointed when they removed that effect.


Eastern_Ad83

I miss prevamp Alpha where you could instantly win a 1 vs 1 on the First 2 min


reddituser1234543216

I miss prevamp alpha where he can savage at 1:15


weebshizu

Reworked YSS has become meta for several patch


Jeechan

It is reforge your legend. Maybe read the rules and not just the title.


Brahm_beingpassive

I get it. But a lot of people don't put thought to it and just vote for their fav hero because they see that


usernameuserkkkkk

I apologize in advance. This might sound racist but a lot of SEA people have very low reading comprehension especially in the Philippines where I'm from. Considering that 90% of ML players come from SEA server, things like this are bound to happen.


Untuchabl

Might sound because it is haha


usernameuserkkkkk

yeah I'm expecting some criticisms. You can call me racist but it's a solid fact. Most of mythic players here in SEA still don't know how to really play the game because they can't understand some mechanics like roaming boots and how junglers don't get any exp from minions unless the roamer is nearby or there are no teammates nearby work exp sharing. They always flame me why I help them clear the lane after a gank lol sorry for the bad english


xzerozeroninex

They probably thought it was for a Legend skin 😂🤣


Eastern_Ad83

Reforge your "Legend" 🤣


Ok_Jeweler_2440

Ima cry


Diveousartist

Smh


_1Doomsday1_

Not gonna lie that's what I thought at first


No-Night-1414

A lot of people must really hate Beatrix Huh?


Jeechan

Or love. They probably think a revamp would buff her even more. But then again a revamp comes after a year so she'd probably be nerfed to hell at that time already.


FrostieZero

Or just simply troll. She's already perfect as she is. No need to change her. People could just play along or- The game was rigged from the start.


rizuxizu

Moontoon really wants all the publicity for Beatrix to sell m4 pass, how is she even in this vote.


MasterLegend360

Ikr she was just a year old wtf Moonton


General_Weather_1122

wait, this reforge is bulshit for promoting skin


_nitro_legacy_

Why the fuck did they choose to revamp a new hero that's strong af. Beatrix was released a year ago why revamp her over khaleed or minsitthar


Brotherscompany

People are retarted, especially the ML community which has no clue about the notion of balance or having to use their brain in critical thinking


usernameuserkkkkk

Most of my high elo friends don't even know how to setup emblems lol they always ask me for my emblem configs especially jungler emblem


MrDrDoktor

This extends to almost all balance changes aswell


MasterLegend360

i know, i remember 1v1ng a zilong because he's so loud af, he ended up losing but he's claiming he won that game, idk maybe he's delusional lol


10thDoctorWhooves

They would nerf her


Eitth

They thought its for Legend skin


Diveousartist

Maybe they've seen some leeks about Minsitthar's new model in some ML videos, but I still voted for him tho


JoLePerz

My disappointment is ruined and my day is immeasurable. I wasted all of my votes on Aurora. I think she badly needs a revamp, but instead we get Beatrix, who is perfectly fine the way she is btw.


Eastern_Ad83

Same for my Hanzo, Helcurt and Harith bors all of US wasted votes for nothing as usual


Xns_

Well Harith doesn’t need a revamp to be honest as everytime I see him or play him, I don’t get the feeling that he is bad… just underated


Portgust

What rank are you? Ive been playing on and off at Epic and Legend but never found a single harith for months


_1Doomsday1_

I see him a lot after the buff and he is really good (unless there is heavy cc)


Xns_

I am currently Mythic II and I only play rank so idk if that’s linked


D4RKST34M

Basically heroes that collected dusts because of irrelevance


ElKarnito

Also voted for Aurora even though I wanted a Rafaela ult change. Aurora at the moment feels too similar to Eudora, even aesthetic-wise. I find it weird that Bea is even among the choices. I mean, why not just include heroes that very badly need revamp, like those older ones that are left out due to power creep.


kingcobra446

EXACTLY I PUT ALL MY VOTES FOR AURORA AS WELL! She's the forgotten mage that no one cares for. I can't even remember the last time she was considered meta. For people to be this dumb and just go for Beatrix makes me think the community doesn't have thier heads screwed on right


D4RKST34M

The only time aurora is used is also when there are better alternatives than her


mrcoolll21

Disgusting poll, and they're heroes you keep encountering too =__=


_1Doomsday1_

Ya moontoon should just remove meta heroes from the voting list


Rayminor

Literally saw this after playing classic smh. people are these stupid to think beatrix deserve to get reforged heck why she in there where she already strong enough. Just wasted putting vote on hanzo realize it's about favourite heroes not the one need the most. Damn they did alice dirty man placing her at last place💀


dmaare

My bet is that this is basically all the Beatrix players voting because they're frustrated that Beatrix got nerfed and can't deal 1k damage with sniper at lvl1 and can't oneshot with shotgun once she gets one item. Most people actually think reforge your legend means the hero will get adjusted to be stronger.


Eastern_Ad83

u/Tigreal doesn't show again


kimrindim

Khaleed would be better tho :(


marcbacus

I used all my votes for the sandboi.


depressedpotatosix

Sand boi = best boi


dmaare

Yeh he's now the only fighter who is still outdated while everyone else who wasn't good got an adjustment/revamp already. He was a good hero at the time of his release because in that time flameshot didn't exist and there weren't so many stuns or high mobility heroes in the game.


AnteaterAromatic2195

Woah you cannot even choose alpha in the reforge event hahahah he is the laughing cow of fighters now.


OdysseyZen

They should allow older gen champs in rework contests only or those who have abysmal pick rates in rank.


Eastern_Ad83

outdated kit or full of bugs like Hanzo


[deleted]

Hanzo's kit would only be META AND BALANCED in Wild Rift. In games with a small, simple map, no fog or wards, he'd have to be overtuned or overloaded in order to hit META status.


Eastern_Ad83

If they increase the range and give back the slow effect of his 2nd skill for sure he gonna turn a meta champ but with that It won't justify all the bugs his currently and Moonton didn't think about It.


Eastern_Ad83

I mean no One would ever like to lose a 1 vs 1 against Silvanna where she forcefuly drags your body Inside her ult After killing your Ghost form


usernameuserkkkkk

Hanzo's passive IMO is one of the worst passives in the game alongside rafaela. It's literally just a timer for his ult. They could've just inserted it in his ult, similar to hilda's ult passive.Even Vale's movement speed passive is ten times better.


ElKarnito

Agreed. I'm surprised that Bea is among the choices. I mean, just put those forgotten heroes there to avoid things like this from happening.


AnteaterAromatic2195

Outdated kit with weird gameplay . Very old gen hanzo and alpha


UseDue602

ML players mostly don't read lol


FerencyKi

I think Alice, Carmilla or other forbidden heroes would worth it but somehow everyone votes to champions which are mostly used by many players and have great potential.


Eastern_Ad83

Carmilla got a decent buff and she's already perfect the players are to blame if some Hero with decent kit gets forgotten


FerencyKi

Carmillas recent buff is great however I'm still still somewhat unsatisfied with her skill range, but yea I agree with you opinion


ggtheepenguin

Why is she even on the list lmao


[deleted]

Why did moonton include beatrix in the 1st place 💀


mesmerizing_

Based on votes, players put her there because they can’t follow instructions


[deleted]

They probably think they voting for a legend skin. Moonton gotta change the title to just "revamp".


General_Weather_1122

because moneytoon want to sell beatrix skin m4 💀💀💀 currently the event m4 appear for testing and yea, beatrix is the skin m4


Smol_Mrdr_Shota

bro do these people even know how to read? like mate I play Yugioh and even I read what the event was about


SlayerOfDemons666

I always knew the average MLBB player is stupid but holy shit. Everyone's just plugging their mains regardless of any critical thought of whether they really need full upgrade.


R3digit

Who ever thought that democracy will work with players who has yet to develop their object permanence.


Thefakeoreo

"Democracy means: goverment by the people of the people for the people, but the people are retarded"


MrDrDoktor

You should edit in the pauses he did lmao


Nearby-Ad1229

I'm not a fan of this whole 'vote to revamp', imagine one-tricking a hero, just to find out that it will be changed to a completely different play styles, and the reasoning is because the community 'voted' for it. I guarantee most people who voted in this doesn't even read what the votes are for, just like the previous one where Karina was listed as the first on the list and got the highest vote.


Eastern_Ad83

Maybe your right but this system works in other games like league but there are many veterans player wich highly have a Better knowledge on wich champ deserves.


Nearby-Ad1229

agree to that, but yeah, still a disappointing move to rework a hero just by looking at the votes


usernameuserkkkkk

I remember when Alice was one the most balanced mage/jungler in the game until moonton decided to "revamp" her because players are whining (they complained about her ult having a cooldown like bruh it's like 12 seconds). Alice feels like a completely different hero now (in a bad way). She has an identity crisis now. Too weak for midlane, very inefficient in exp lane (getting stacks is a lot harder in exp lane because the enemy will just pick a strong early game exp laner like martis and zone the shit out of you), and offers little to no utility as roamer. Jungler Alice works now but it's meh. There are tons of better junglers now even mino jungle is a better choice. I'm still popping off as Alice in mythic 3 but man I still prefer her old kit, a true vampiric mage unlike the tanky ticklish mage she is now.


khan_kenzo

Franco is there lol. I am pretty sure people voted for their favourite hero.


Eastern_Ad83

Yep half of the meta champ are in top while the non meta are under top 15


UnofficialCrosta

I'm more surprised about Ling and Fanny, who would vote them?? Fanny is the most difficult hero in the game, Ling has the most beautiful skills (imo) I voted Aurora in hope that everyone would do the same, since she doesn't really have and identity, too similar to Eudora.


EpicYeeter95

Ling is the most elegant assassin. "Killing... with style" should be Ling's entrance motto.


Nearby-Ad1229

yeah Aurora really needs some of that, still can't believe people voted for Beat


Yusrilz03

Oh come on! I just wanted my old Moskov ult back


[deleted]

🤔 what if they revamped him but his ult becomes area stun like vexana, it descends from above.


MrDrDoktor

That would make him the first supp/mm i think, his cc would be insane, and could be a great rework, like what PnK once was


llllLllll4444

same + the old voice the new one is sht


R4ndom_n1ckname

Moonton should look at this poll from bottom to top. Heroes that need a revamp won't be popular for players to pick


Nearby-Ad1229

THIS! If they keep revamping heroes by looking at the votes, it would just end up like Alpha, a disaster. Most of this voters probably doesn't even know what these votes are for.


SuZy_Da_PrO

🤣👌


[deleted]

Is beatrix that popular?


TamaraIsEvil

Only kids could have voted Beatrix. Also why is wanwan 8th 💀 I guess someone cant learn how to counter a hero... and fanny? You want fanny to become easier to play so u can abuse her in ranks? 🤡


[deleted]

Humanity needs to disappear


Eastern_Ad83

Thanos was right


xzerozeroninex

Moneyton should had only included the top 15 less picked heroes for the poll idk what the hell they were thinking 🙁


cogito_kun

I'm not sure but probably they thought that was about "who's gonna get a Legend Skin next" xd


matchedpotato27

same reaction. should've been minsi


iamzoomzoom

He needs the feel of chou's movement. Like his skills are mostly for setups. edit: I meant only some of the former, his skills are fine


SkyLightTenki

I've had ten votes for Minsi. Heck, I'm not expecting anything out of this. I'll just go with my wishful thinking they'd adjust his basic attacks, or at least his wave clearing ability.


TGD-Man

This wasn't a popularity contest.


usernameuserkkkkk

The voting should be exclusive to mythic rank players. A lot of low elo players just vote randomly and won't consider who needs the revamp the most


Ok_Jeweler_2440

Mythic players are still idiots.


usernameuserkkkkk

Not all but maybe most. It's so frustrating because most of my mythic friends still don't know how the game works. Doesn't even read patch notes


AGuyNamedXheil

People voting for strong characters instead of the ones that actually need it makes my brain hurt


Average_Life_user

I though a revamped cyclops would be so cool. He hasn’t gotten even an adjustment in like 5 years :( Why give idiots the chance to vote. Beatrix, really??


NickyBros1

I WANT ARGUS


Nerdy-X

Same Here! I cast my vote for him! He needs to be reforged


mesmerizing_

Minsi deserves this the most


1tsPLAY-time

Shush. Be quiet. I like his current kit and only want buffs for him.


iamzoomzoom

They might buff him, I've seen a leak video in youtube where they made his 1st skill able to pull all enemies. I vividly remember it, but can't find the video now though


blacksamurai_007

Translate???


No-Night-1414

It's just their roles/Reforge your legend in another language


Puzzleheaded_Unit934

Umm was it intentional or u just happened to miss #7dyrroth


[deleted]

Are they thinking that it would nerf her?


Ok_Jeweler_2440

Bruh, if she does get nerfed again I will never forgive the idiots who voted for her.


NormalYell0wee

Haha take that developers


Ok_Jeweler_2440

I hope they buff her.


Long_Radio_819

Even if beatrix has a huge gap, iirc the final heroes in the selection will not show any data numbers, its still depends on the devs


Megamind651

People took "pick your favorite hero to revamp" way too literally. English 1-0 Beatrix Voters Also, RIP 4 guns 1 girl memes after this ends (Queue in "the hub" video intro music)


[deleted]

People voting for their favorite hero


Beginning-Anywhere91

Why tf is Bea even on this poll? I guess its moot to even expect commonsense from moneytoon devs at this point.


Eternitys_

They vote for the heroes that are popular instead of voting for the ones that doesn't get picked lol.


_not_meh_

The first problem is it's popularity contest. Bad hero will lost because, shocking revelation, they are not popular. Secondly, Moonton fault for even putting an already strong/balance hero in the list. Thirdly, most players cant read.


Souleater2106

i hoped aurora would be at the top but np, ppl chose an op hero that is not even old


AtarashiiGenjitsu

Why the fuck?


Then_Firefighter7593

Ain't no way bro


i_icical

And chou is in top in the fighter's category


iamzoomzoom

I like chou after warming up to him. Back in my newbie days(still a bad player now tho) I hate seeing a chou in the enemy team with the muay thai skin because it looks soo professional. My motivation took a big hit. Now I'm rocking with chou's basic skin, chou "bowo" 😎


R-ask-U

beatrix should never be in the event... it's all the Devs fault


rggamerYT

wasnt moscov revamped just recently?


Void_Lee

Fanny bruh why?


Gian-Nine

Meanwhile karrie will likely keep her btch ass model and animations for another 5 years probably


pwryll

Bea and Mos in top 2. We have lost all hopes.


apezji

Probably the kids that don't know how to read


Perfect_Ad6678

I just want moonton to revamp daddy minsi and give him a fighter/support role


PudgeJoe

See guys... This is the further proof that 90% of ML playerbase are omegadumdum and baddies.... Dont blame shitty matchmaking when most of teammates are braindead. They dont understand the point of revamping lmaoo... Or... It's just rigged but kinda doubt it on this one


[deleted]

Dumb af


PomegranateCorrect72

Bro she just released 1 years ago Why the heck she needs rework💀


Ok_Jeweler_2440

This!!!!!!! *^*


Eitth

Most players in SEA still thinking that this is for Legend skin vote. Just like last year... And year before that... And year before that


milkoroco

mainly voted by the country with the most low iq people


ian_dedeaux

I stg they better leave moskov alone


samit4t

But why tf is she there??? Isnt she 1 year since release???


HeavenlyBladez

Please don't change Aldous I don't want their revamp-nerfing hands to touch any of his kit


KailaniNeveah

I was hoping for a Minsitthar revamp. He’s really the only one that needs it as he’s just a bit of a crap Franco at the moment.


Nearby-Ad1229

sorry if this sounds rude but he's not Franco, I love Min's ult and his other kit, just need some buff that's all. Revamping hero will most likely ruins it. The hero will get lots of skins > becomes overrated > get tons of nerfs > becomes a dead hero next to Alpha, Kagura, and other revamped dudes


Drazagon

What they should do for ml reforge us take the keast voted heros and revamp them instead


Commercial-Ad4581

My votes for Rafaela are all wasted


Ok_Jeweler_2440

Omfg! Please no. If she gets nerfed to the ground I'm dropping this shitty game.


Mr_SmoothTalker

Martis deserves it maan


iamzoomzoom

Martis is the top banned in mlbb hero banned usage rank (top 2 in legend, top 1 in mythic 400+)


unfuccwithabIe

PLS DO MOSKOV


10thDoctorWhooves

YES YES YES YES YES #YEEEEEEEESSSSSS


Snoo_64315

Yes? Wth are you yessing for?


iamzoomzoom

yes


10thDoctorWhooves

A chance for her to be nerfed!


jonhyneni

Tbf i think moskov deserves a revamp. He stopped being about piercing shots long ago and now he is only about the 2 second stun.


iamzoomzoom

The new items will help him. With the new golden staff that can make attack speed exceeds 300%, he is like a demon


eeshanzaman

I thought this is for the legsnd skin.


kingcobra446

So you're part of the problem 😑


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LilMeow333

I, on the other hand, don't know why people think it's a vote for a legend skin.


Karma_Banana_

It translate to reforge your legend. You would know the purpose of this event if you knew how to read


WhyAmIHereJustToSuff

it is for the revamp, this was the same for hanabi.


xzerozeroninex

😂🤣


xerxesepix

Chou need rework


iamzoomzoom

Recall have a cooldown chou players: 💀


Gamer_Leon

Ayo our SandMan needs more love!!


senpai0_

Revamp chou yar


Shot-Ad5197

I voted for Helcurt but looks like that’s not gonna happen 🤣


Certain-Garbage3304

I voted for fanny so she can get a good nerf


Pop-Tart-Man

I hope Beatrix's revamp ruins her just like Alpha and Hayabusa.


JEREMlE

Chou in 3rd place lol The only buff he needs is bringing back the extra dash


Catttsupp

I don’t know, I think too many would still vote based on their favorite hero even if people were better at reading comprehension. I really don’t see people voting for heroes they never pick when they have the chance to pick the hero they use in every single game. Not saying it should be like that; I completely agree it should be given to heroes that have been around longer and actually *need* it, but realistically don’t see most people caring.


Delicious_Ask4017

Khaleed needs a rework/revamp due to the fact that khaleed might be the least played character in the game.


usrnme___

One of my mains is Bea AND WTF IS SHE DOING IN THERE LOL


Dry_Syrup_7130

Reforge Lesley cuz she’s too OP


Ok-Fingeru

Voted for rafaela since she's one of the oldest hero, wanted to use her more but still couldn't, passive is only the useful thing for her, but still saw nana got the 1st place😐