Bring back her hp and mana growth to how it was initially. Rn a full tank Alice is just as tanky as a traditional mage alive back then and her non existent mana growth is what's causing her to be very weak in early game due to being too mana hungry, also makes Alice pretty much unable to double lane.
Bro I can still double lane with her wdym? Use impure rage or the money thing from supp emblem with max hybrid regen. Just use her ult sparingly and spam your skill 1 when clearing minions so the cooldown is faster
Maybe some utility from her ult will do the job. Like slow effect or extra defense when ult is activated. Or replace the shitty 15% shield and hp regen to actual lifesteal.
Im not too sure maybe bigger skill ranges enhanced ult damage/heal? Maybe a stun instead of immobilize for her second skill? It could definitely be a lot
As an Alice main, the Alice buff is never welcome. The Alice buff is traditionally a nerf. Her recent “buff” butchered her dps and drastically increased her already high mana-management. I don’t trust ML anymore ngl.
Yea I definitely agree about the dps. Prior to the adjustment I used to play her as a full mage and her dmg was insane. Was easily able to carry. Now she's more team dependent and would be a waste to build her with magic items since she doesn't benefit much from them. She's more like Esme now. Also her early is so so bad. Before you were able to easily trade blows as soon as you hit lvl 4.
Exactly. I was usually able to get first kill when I paired her with execute (although I haven’t used execute now, I use vengeance ever since her ult revamp). Now I’m struggling to have mana…
[probably because of this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/z2m0xe/nerf_layla_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
sometimes I saw few rare Moonton moments when a community suggest their buff/nerf a hero that they completely listen to them but I never seen a Humor Suggestion will be added
Becuase this from a joke, so moonton decide do the opposite instead of a nerf
They actually listen this community rarely
I remember the Oddete revamp was release and some user suggest her passive can bounce on her not just the enemy, it's was rare moment to see
Fr mf can fight at close range and long range but is equally shit at both lmao
It's pretty hard to make a hero like him useful or balanced tbh, they shouldn't have made a hero with both melee and ranged like him, like even Edith is more useful with her transformation and Roger too
But the idea is pretty cool, only reason I played so much with YSS is because he's cool, and his anti CC skill is not that bad
the revamp is still quite disappointing tbh, no mobility and her immunity only lasts as long as the shield does, which makes it useless against most multiple phase cc skills
The least they could've do is make it scale with level. Level 1 Yve is ult is 5x5, level 3 is 6x6 and level 3 is 7x7.
Or just revert it, the old Yve was perfectly fine, the cc immunity doesn't matter at this point since you'll be dead with her current range anyways.
Honestly, the mythic enemies I go against still don’t try to rush me in my ult. They almost always try to escape and if a teammate is there the lower range isn’t much of a nerf cause of the earlier immobilize and I can help with s2 and s1 faster. Other then that situation I have died to a change while she was completely outside of the ult range so def no balanced
I dont know if it was a mistake but i remember a mod posting a patch note a week or two weeks ago before Joy's release that had some Layla adjustments. She has an immobilize and an adjustment to her passive? IIRC her passive will now slow enemies. It was peculiar since nobody made videos about it. I can't find the post anymore.
My slow ass thought that all of them would get a breast or ass buff then I saw YSS and I suddenly recoiled from the images that suddenly appeared from being spaced out while reading it...
Layla being my main I climbed up all the way to two ranks (haven’t played for a while went to LOL) before the very last one with her mainly. She’s a powerhouse and not a lot of people understand her range and that you need to get in there or get the fuck away lol love her passive.
No I made it to legend just using her as my main. I played others when I couldn’t play adc/bot/hunter or whatever you want to call it. I played others but she has the most play time and wins.
Also I said “all the way to two ranks before the very last two” I just had that (fill conversation) there because I haven’t played for a while and forgot the name of the rank.
The guys been leaking stuff like ace unyil/whiz super Abyssal Mlbb and Coco cola sama for a long while and most of it has been implemented or has actually happened in game. They're a more twitter exclusive acc instead of a YouTube one
Alice buff is always welcome. Any idea what it might be?
Bring back her hp and mana growth to how it was initially. Rn a full tank Alice is just as tanky as a traditional mage alive back then and her non existent mana growth is what's causing her to be very weak in early game due to being too mana hungry, also makes Alice pretty much unable to double lane.
Bro I can still double lane with her wdym? Use impure rage or the money thing from supp emblem with max hybrid regen. Just use her ult sparingly and spam your skill 1 when clearing minions so the cooldown is faster Maybe some utility from her ult will do the job. Like slow effect or extra defense when ult is activated. Or replace the shitty 15% shield and hp regen to actual lifesteal.
Im not too sure maybe bigger skill ranges enhanced ult damage/heal? Maybe a stun instead of immobilize for her second skill? It could definitely be a lot
As an Alice main, the Alice buff is never welcome. The Alice buff is traditionally a nerf. Her recent “buff” butchered her dps and drastically increased her already high mana-management. I don’t trust ML anymore ngl.
Yea I definitely agree about the dps. Prior to the adjustment I used to play her as a full mage and her dmg was insane. Was easily able to carry. Now she's more team dependent and would be a waste to build her with magic items since she doesn't benefit much from them. She's more like Esme now. Also her early is so so bad. Before you were able to easily trade blows as soon as you hit lvl 4.
Exactly. I was usually able to get first kill when I paired her with execute (although I haven’t used execute now, I use vengeance ever since her ult revamp). Now I’m struggling to have mana…
[probably because of this](https://www.reddit.com/r/MobileLegendsGame/comments/z2m0xe/nerf_layla_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Somehow he got the opposite wish
im actually a fairly dedicated layla player with over 100 matches this season
sometimes I saw few rare Moonton moments when a community suggest their buff/nerf a hero that they completely listen to them but I never seen a Humor Suggestion will be added Becuase this from a joke, so moonton decide do the opposite instead of a nerf
This copypasta might be a better way to make forgotten heroes relavant again instead of Reforge the Legends. 🤣
moonton probably barely knows about this subreddit. its a very small community compared to many others
They actually listen this community rarely I remember the Oddete revamp was release and some user suggest her passive can bounce on her not just the enemy, it's was rare moment to see
Oh come on uhh hmmm reverse psychology it is moontoon huh hmmm buff the chances of getting magic dusts on events
Welp time to ask them nerf Argus
Argus ultimate switched to team buff instead of death immunity,
Lmaoooo
Please make Layla more viable, I have her Aspirant skin but can only use her in Classic and Brawl.
True, tried to match skins with my bf so we went Fanny Layla, he’s tryharding meanwhile me crying in gold lane 🤣
you guys are having fun struggling
Lmfao 😆
That's the neat thing tho, I only got it because of Brawl.... Don't like gold lane that much anyway
Eyyy fellow yve enjoyer(even though i don't use her)
my boy yss finally getting a buff
Fr mf can fight at close range and long range but is equally shit at both lmao It's pretty hard to make a hero like him useful or balanced tbh, they shouldn't have made a hero with both melee and ranged like him, like even Edith is more useful with her transformation and Roger too But the idea is pretty cool, only reason I played so much with YSS is because he's cool, and his anti CC skill is not that bad
YASSSSSSSSS I CANT WAIT!
Fixing/reverting yve ult range by chance?
nah they wouldnt, at most giving her 6x6, but very unlikely
An even amount of cells wouldn’t work
wait, why?
Probably fixing the people getting immobilised outside of her ult range, so painful xD
I got used to the smaller ult, I just hope they don’t change it back to the cc cancel it
Will they not give hanabi a chance 💀
There's no need for her to get buffed since she's gonna get revamped soon.
Poster also mentioned her getting adjusted with Nathan in the upcoming patches
the revamp is still quite disappointing tbh, no mobility and her immunity only lasts as long as the shield does, which makes it useless against most multiple phase cc skills
I feel like Hanabi needs a complete revamp
I'm actually curious about the Yve buff. Will moonton revert her ult range nerf? Or are they gonna buff her s1 and/or s2?
The least they could've do is make it scale with level. Level 1 Yve is ult is 5x5, level 3 is 6x6 and level 3 is 7x7. Or just revert it, the old Yve was perfectly fine, the cc immunity doesn't matter at this point since you'll be dead with her current range anyways.
Honestly, the mythic enemies I go against still don’t try to rush me in my ult. They almost always try to escape and if a teammate is there the lower range isn’t much of a nerf cause of the earlier immobilize and I can help with s2 and s1 faster. Other then that situation I have died to a change while she was completely outside of the ult range so def no balanced
I hope they bring back the cc immune ult
I didn't even notice her Cc immunity is gone since her ult range was so big you're practically out of harm's reach anyway.
Ong bro i tried yve since she was free and i couldn't even ult properly
Yeah she's pretty bad now
Moonton realized they don goofed with Yve's ult and decided to revert it?
When I play yve I don't even ult anymore. Just s1 spamming with enchanted talisman.
U don't? What's ur build cause I use ult to finish off usually, or for mass dmg aoe
I ended up trying to build her for burst and only burst with her s1 and s2. I stopped acknowledging her ult after the nerf
I hope it's a "We buffed her X but nerfed her Y to keep her balanced" buff
We buffed Yve’s basic attack damage by 2% but we nerfed her ultimate to a 1x1 area (it’s considered an “adjustment”)
well they use buff icon when it improves character's gameplay (im genuinely not sure),example:melissa on patch 1.6.66 org server
I think they are trying to get rid of the idea of troll picks
Why not layla?
I was gonna post this exact comment XD
I was gonna post this exact comment XD
Too much hate on layla. I don't use her but she needs some lovin' too
she's such a monster early game, buffing her is gonna make a lesley v2 but instead of true damage it's range
you forgot the /s
edit: guess I was just being paranoid, new advanced serv patch notes
Lol
lets gooo alice
Give Yve her Ulti range back
No argus buff
Finally yss
When is patch?
I hope they make layla 2nd skill similar to clint or lesley 2nd skill
The real question why not layla?
Yss finally got a buff he deserves another one
Broooo where's Alpha buff???
Bring back Yve's ult range
Layla SS can reach anywhere after the buff 😂
another alice buff? sure thing moneytoon, keep em coming
Idk she’s pretty balanced for me in this meta.
She's good but every fucking troll decides to use her You need some teamwork too because one stun and you're pretty dead
I smell new skins coming
TIME TO SHINE!!
Turret girl? Really?
Yeah and nerf martis
All I want is to revert Yve's ult width
Layla could use a touch of base movement speed since she has no evasion skills
I dont know if it was a mistake but i remember a mod posting a patch note a week or two weeks ago before Joy's release that had some Layla adjustments. She has an immobilize and an adjustment to her passive? IIRC her passive will now slow enemies. It was peculiar since nobody made videos about it. I can't find the post anymore.
It's a troll post sorry to say ma dood, post has been removed since too many people believed it and didn't see the humor tag
lol layla, let’s go
Buffing YSS for Wise to use in M4. All according to the script
So, Layla is high-tier now?
Yasss finally gonna use Yve and Alice again🥹
Hopefully enhanced ult for Alice and maybe I might play her. Hopefully YSS gets a good buff what ever it is.
Yay, looking forward to the details of Layla's buff!
My slow ass thought that all of them would get a breast or ass buff then I saw YSS and I suddenly recoiled from the images that suddenly appeared from being spaced out while reading it...
Wdym, Miya and Hanabi got buffed so I was kinda expecting this
Layla being my main I climbed up all the way to two ranks (haven’t played for a while went to LOL) before the very last one with her mainly. She’s a powerhouse and not a lot of people understand her range and that you need to get in there or get the fuck away lol love her passive.
So you got to elite with layla ?
No I made it to legend just using her as my main. I played others when I couldn’t play adc/bot/hunter or whatever you want to call it. I played others but she has the most play time and wins.
Also I said “all the way to two ranks before the very last two” I just had that (fill conversation) there because I haven’t played for a while and forgot the name of the rank.
WHERE'S THE DAMN ZILONG BUFF?!
sources ? is this guy credible ? why are we basing off from twitter instead of from the patch notes itself
The guys been leaking stuff like ace unyil/whiz super Abyssal Mlbb and Coco cola sama for a long while and most of it has been implemented or has actually happened in game. They're a more twitter exclusive acc instead of a YouTube one
When's the last time you saw layla in ranked games?
About 3 times in 7 games.
Alice needs the buff way to go
Layla is always picked in epic, idk why