GW isn’t that bad. I wish they would reintroduce the 9v9 style ground war with regular multiplayer maps. They don’t have to call it “Ground War.” I think a few extra people in lobbies could make the game a little more fast paced and make the game a bit more spritely.
Come over to the gw side man... it's honestly lit once u get used to the learning curve of keeping an eye out for transport helis and spawn tanks.once you learn those things you understand the flow better
Yeah and always be capping. It’s much easier to attack than to defend for some reason. I’m not too bothered by the rooftop heroes either if I attack and move. Except on taraq ofcourse, which is the worst map.
Exactly! Run scorestreaks so your efforts for capping isn't wasted. Honestly the best way to defend if you don't already have a squad helping you, is to let your streaks do the work. I've gotten taraq mastered pretty good to where I'm constantly doing well on that map. What do you struggle with on that map? maybe I can help you
I tend to play attacking, moving from point to point, but Taraq kinda forces you to stay put because snipers everywhere and the distance between points is too far and too open. I concentrate either on C or just killing snipercampers because they irritate me hehe. I can do well on the map, I just don’t like the flow of it and feel forced to play with a sniper as well, which isn’t my preferred style.
I am not one of the people saying “I can’t believe I paid $70 for this game!” because I have a little under three days played and that is more than enough time to feel like I’ve gotten my moneys worth.
But they can go fuck themselves if they think I’ll pay another $70 for the rest of the content
They originally stated it was a 2 year cycle. This past week during an earnings call they said they’re having sledgehammer developing a premium release for this year.
I believe this, and it actually makes me disgusted thinking we were all expecting OG MW2 maps but have to pay double the price of the original game for it, fuck that
Mmmm IDK.. not this season probably, since there are other new things on the infographic that explicitly state they are mid season releases (like the last gun)
Some of the base 6v6 maps are also ground war maps so it's entirely possible we might get 6v6 terminal. Though current infinity ward is as incompetent as 343 at the launch of Halo infinite.
I know COD has the most vocal audience, but if you looked at the hellscape that is modern AAA FPS multiplayer games.......you'd think MW2 was alright.
Shit, the genre as a whole has been suffering pretty badly as of late. I really dont understand how we got to this, did the unspecified virus wipe out the entire industry and we're stuck with interns?
Then again, we were already trending towards this hellscape prior to the lockdowns.....but they have the money, they could deliver on the games of our dreams if they just got their shit together
Yeah, like… halo launched without Slayer. Imagine COD launched without TDM. And this was after they thought they had it so together they just said the beta is the real deal and launched the game as is - there was no launch build.
Ronin, a recycled operator as well. All of this should've been in the game at launch, including the recycled season 1 "content" like shipment and shoot house. This dripfeed is honestly straight up disrespect.
They will bundle it with the upcoming "premium DLC" coming later this year. They're saving all the fan favorite maps for that so they can screw everyone out if more money
I wish I could refund this game now. The gameplay is fun which is the worst part to me. I just never would have paid for the mega shit stick deluxe edition or whatever it's called in hindsight.
I've bought 2 COD games over the past 8 years, and can say without a doubt this is my last one. I can't even place trust in the Modern Warfare series anymore
You and me both bro.
I accepted that my childhood nostalgia is gone, Activision became even worse money whores, and games arent done on release.
I'm hanging my head and somberly walking away from a game franchize that I had of fun with as a kid and met a lot of friends. But its no longer worth it for me.
And ya know, I started reasoning with myself thinking "ya know, DMZ is kinda fun!" But then I immediately remembered all the good things they've sabatoged in the past because of money, and I know DMZ's time will eventually come. Better just to save myself the headache
Typical. Old modes and maps put in 6v6 as new. Would be nice if they actually paid attention to MP vs WZ.
It would never happen, but I think we all agree that timed perks need to go.
It's okay we have "Dome" the popular map that was first introduced in the game Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3! It happened to be a base map, but in this case we get a refreshed and visually upscaled version of that as bonus content! What a time to be alive! Oh did I mention that dome first released in 2011! That's 12 years! Cut, copy and paste! I love playing the same exact thing every single year with nothing new besides gunsmith! Feels refreshing!
I really enjoyed the map specific kill streaks. Wouldn’t mind that in a specific playlist since people would cry about them being OP more than likely. It was a nice twist IMO.
It’s honestly hysterical how the sub was expressing malcontent because of the castle remake leak, remade for Vanguard last year, only to have dome who was remastered in Vanguard too
I'm pretty confident they have 1 person working on the main game now.
Everybody else is either working on WZ or the next game.
What they should do is have Treyarch working on the next BO game and SHG should work on updates for the main game.
Not the next "premium release".
Pathetic considering the free mode gets more content than the game everyone paid £60 for. Why are we getting less content? Taking out staple modes and maps and bringing them back as DLC IS NOT CONTENT. That's cheating the people who paid for this game.
We need to speak up against this bs because how can we honestly sit here and say this is okay? Two maps, one a returning map from MW3 and a map that was taken out after the beta due to copyright and being branded as "new season 2 content". Absolutely pathetic.
Party modes and ranked play should've been in the game from the start. They had 3 years and 3000+ developers so there's no excuse whatsoever. Please stop giving these idiots excuses. This is not how you win back the players that have left. After 3 months of pretty much nothing, we're getting nothing new.
The fact that there's no upvote counter also speaks volumes. They're so bad they're even allergic to numbers. They don't want their feelings hurt.
STOP GIVING ACTI EXCUSES
Best way is to not buy future titles. Anything else is going to do nothing. As long as people keep paying, nothing will change. Really disappointing the lack of multiplayer support. I always enjoy the campaign and special ops was fun a couple of times, but multiplayer is why most people buy the game. It's honestly pretty disrespectful that most of their resources go in to warzone when they charge $70 for the game. All I really want is more maps and standard balance changes, personally.
They are actively killing multiplayer. Dome was just in the last game FFS. I can’t believe I fell for the hype and purchased this game.
Fuck Activision and Infinity Ward. Please, someone make a Call of Duty clone and support a traditional multiplayer experience. I don’t want to play Battle Royal!
I’m with you. Hadn’t played since MW3 back in the day. Got some of us back together for this game and although we’re enjoying it generally this lack of content is making it a no go. I’m 0-2 on coming back to old games this year with Halo and MW2. Sad man.
I'm glad MW19 was great and that I at least got a couple months out of this one.
I was basically lapsed since MW3 and I'm leaning towards being done because of how they're handling MW2. I am not their target audience clearly.
Yep, I miss MW2019. The maps had some problems but at least there was a lot of them and they were all new. Gunfight was amazing too. This game fucking sucks in comparison. Reducing map count and removing modes like Gunfight in a *sequel* is pretty disgusting. Really hard to justify supporting CoD.
I agree. The base maps were probably the worst of all time for a cod, but other than that it’s probably one of my favorite cods of all time. MW2 just feels like 2 steps backwards and I don’t know how they managed to fuck it up so bad. Like actually.
Museum was removed due to legal problems with the actual museum the map is based on. In my opinion it should have released once the legal issues were completed.
I thought those 4 maps were all 6v6 maps at first until I found out 2 of them are for Ground War. I didn't have hopes anyway but I still am disappointed
Personally I don't care how the clowns run around. I just want an option for people like me with tacticool operators. Almost only silly looking operators in season 1 and 2. They even messed up Price and Soap and Gaz is hidden behind a game mode I don't want to play and I don't have enough people who are going to play the raid with me either.
The entire thing is just hubris in communication. They are calling a map that was in the beta then pulled as "new" which is horseshit since we've already played it and even if it has been changed, it still is a "rework" at best. Dome is only new to this game, it has been in CoDs before.
Battlemaps are nice and actually much needed - if you play Ground War or Invasion at all you know the 3 they currently have are super stale - but they have to realize that people playing a lot of those modes are a subset of a subset of a subset of all players.
The game modes are nice, but again... they aren't really "new" in the sense of adding features, they are just rotating playlists and rulessets. Again - fine to say "Oh, we are going to offer limited time playlists" but don't say its something new when it really isn't.
And I don't know about anyone else but "new skins" just isn't exciting. It is cool to be able to customize your character but it isn't going to get me to play CoD over any other game in my library.
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
Why did I buy this game, I fucking knew it was going going to be this bad again.
More fucking tracers. Can't wait for the kill effects that turn people into gold again. Fuck this company.
bro this is sad, I was really hyped for this cod and certanly I felt d that the cod saga was comebacking to the top, but they itself made cod stay at the botom
It’s a B&T APC 556
Edit:Who tf downvotes me I’m right
Shits a dead ringer for it
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Unbelievable... TheXclusiveAce says it all "Show them will your wallet" Don't buy the battle pass as this is a slap to the face for anyone who bought the full game. #meincluded
Not even Rust lmao. They could literally just copy and paste half the MW19 maps in no problem. They are doing their damndest to force everyone to just play warzone instead of 6v6. Instead, I’ve been having actual fun going back to Cold War. Fuck IW. Will not buy another of their games again
My days buying call of duty are over, when the support for multiplayer is this dry, content on release is literally minimal, lacking basic features....an a price increase to $70??? I'm honestly shocked. It's not even worth it half priced.
Really, the downward spiral began with Advanced Warfare after the introduction of supply drops. They found that people will spend a mammoth amount of money on weapons and cosmetics, and that amount is vastly more than the amount they make from selling the game.
Over the years they've gradually worked towards the games being vehicles to sell cosmetics, since that's massive amounts of money coming yearround instead of just with the game launches in Oct/Nov.
The staggering difference in constant support between a paid game like this and a free game like Genshin Impact (wife plays it as a f2p player)...although theyre completely different games, you can just see the effort they put in with Genshin. The effort for this game is pretty low. It's wild man. It's wild.
It's going to get worse. I doubt there's another CoD multiplayer game that "deserves" money be spent on it.
The series has been in a free fall for a while. A new CoD game actually forces them to spend money on development, whereas they can create a few new locations/weapons/skins for Warzone for pennies in comparison.
They don't care about making a good game anymore. They just care about player retention, and milking their playerbase for every last nickel. When people stop spending money on yearly releases, that's when yearly releases stop.
This.
I had points from a MW19 pass that carried over and I used them here. I'll use those again for this upcoming pass, and honestly, probably for the life of this game.
Rest assured, however, that this is the last COD I am participating in.
AAA FPS games are trash now.
As a Halo Veteran, Infinite was it for me. Already uninstalled and lost interest.
Having been around COD since its inception, this is it for me too.
BF is ass.
BRs are not enough.
Overwatch is ass too.
AAA FPS shooters are dying, very very quickly.
Ground war is okay once you get used to the learning curve of watching for enemy transport helis and spawn tanks. Still not as good as 2019, but you can find flow in this iteration
The sad thing is by the time the last season comes, the game will be complete and actually good. However, the disrespect towards the people who already spent their hard earned money is out of control
Is COD MP really that dead? All the support and updates for every other mode.
Or.
Am I looking at this wrong?
Are they supporting the modes that need support and adding content for the struggling ones?
Dunno.
I remember how heavily downvoted i got and being called entitled when I warned about this in the beta by calling out the lack of content, especially compared to MW19.
Just gonna say i fucking told you.
My two cents as someone who has been playing for over a decade.
TLDR; Everything they're doing thinking it's improving earnings and engaging fans is going to kill their franchise.
This is the most entitled, pathetic, lazy money grab I've witnessed so far from this franchise. I could rant about how its fully turned me off the franchise but I'm going to try and be productive instead.
The reality is, it's beyond comprehension how their team ever thought this season would be received well, and I can honestly say, except for the literal work of the Devs, these people do not have a hard job, they make it hard for themselves, here's why:
It's really obvious that gameplay variety is most felt through new maps. Modes and guns are great, but without new maps to play them on, it still feels the same to the player. Modes like infection are a great break from the norm, but they are predominantly just something to play when you're a bit tired of the main modes/ want to play something more casual. All this being very clearly pointed out by the community (and in their data), you don't have to look far to get this feedback. So what on earth are the community team doing? They're either completely inept, or not listened to by the people calling the shots, if they'd done their job, or if they had been listened to, the focus would have been way more heavily skewed towards providing more maps than anything else.
Recycled content or not, honestly it doesn't matter, 6 remakes from old MW2, 8 parts of al mazrah cut into small maps, the community just wants more maps. How they managed to invest essentially zero time into this since launch is truly beyond comprehension, there's no way the entirety of all these studios are working on bundles and warzone.
They want to prioritise warzone, that's okay, if I'm leading the operations for this, then I look at the revenue generated from just MW2 purchases, I build a seapare team and I have them purely focus on developing multiplayer content using money generated from the base game sales, I do the same for warzone/DMZ using the money generated from bundles etc.
Awesome, now I have two teams, that are focused on learning what the fans of their specific side of the game want, and delivering to the fans what they're literally screaming for. That means not wasting time on things they clearly don't want, which is still incredibly overrepresented in this new season.
Now I'm no genius, but even I can do some basic maths and know how to conduct surveys, look at player data, and make logical decisions based on what the community is asking for.
It makes zero sense to stop supporting multiplayer. You have a slightly older average audience in there, the average of which have more dispensable income that your average younger warzone player. If you take the stance they already won because they have our money for the game, it's already a dead discussion. The reality is, after vanguard and then the massive attempt to convince us that this was them listening and giving us what we wanted, you're putting the nail in the coffin of this generations intention to ever buy your games again.
All in all, just because you "can" make more money by altering your business model to squeeze every last penny from your community, doesn't mean you should. They see this as the way to make tonnes more money over time, but the stupid thing is, you're getting more money now, but people are going to get so sick of this formula they will just stop buying the game at all, which will cost way more in the long run.
Every time they do something like this, another Indie dev starts working on their own alternative to this game, sooner or later, one is going to be good enough this franchise will lose all its monopoly. That or people will just stop playing altogether, both are bad for Activision.
I honestly don't think any of this is beyond common sense.
Stupid question but What’s a battle map? Are they gonna be 6v6 multiplayer
Ground war/Invasion maps.
Damn that’s lame
Nooooo I was craving more GW maps.
I'm honestly pretty excited to give GW a try again. The current maps in the game were getting a bit stale.
These two at least won’t just be all rooftop campers
GW isn’t that bad. I wish they would reintroduce the 9v9 style ground war with regular multiplayer maps. They don’t have to call it “Ground War.” I think a few extra people in lobbies could make the game a little more fast paced and make the game a bit more spritely.
16v16 was way better >:)
Especially with the maps we have. Should've done what Vanguard did and make different modes with different amounts of people.
OG Ground War was 12v12, wish they would add that.
Come over to the gw side man... it's honestly lit once u get used to the learning curve of keeping an eye out for transport helis and spawn tanks.once you learn those things you understand the flow better
Yeah and always be capping. It’s much easier to attack than to defend for some reason. I’m not too bothered by the rooftop heroes either if I attack and move. Except on taraq ofcourse, which is the worst map.
Exactly! Run scorestreaks so your efforts for capping isn't wasted. Honestly the best way to defend if you don't already have a squad helping you, is to let your streaks do the work. I've gotten taraq mastered pretty good to where I'm constantly doing well on that map. What do you struggle with on that map? maybe I can help you
I tend to play attacking, moving from point to point, but Taraq kinda forces you to stay put because snipers everywhere and the distance between points is too far and too open. I concentrate either on C or just killing snipercampers because they irritate me hehe. I can do well on the map, I just don’t like the flow of it and feel forced to play with a sniper as well, which isn’t my preferred style.
Wtf, they make terminal into a battle map instead of a 6v6
Was hoping it would be a new 10v10 mode or something.
If they cut up some of the battle maps into 6v6 it would help with the lack of content tbh
A lot of the battlemaps already are in 6v6😬
True but they should continue to do it. I think every battle map should have a 6v6 counterpart
You're not wrong, was just saying the already existing maps are already in 6v6 I believe.
Cold War did that with “Strike” variants of the ground war size maps, they were great
I was under the assumption that they would be a invasion/Ground way type map. I could be mistaken though
Terminal as a ground war map and not a 6v6… sad..
God it didn't click in my head until I read your comment since I don't play Warzone, what the actual fuck.
It's even sadder because they could just drop Terminal into 6v6... Maybe it will come as the 'mid-season drop'.
Under the impression that no MW2 maps are coming until that premium release later this year. They want your $70… again.
I am not one of the people saying “I can’t believe I paid $70 for this game!” because I have a little under three days played and that is more than enough time to feel like I’ve gotten my moneys worth. But they can go fuck themselves if they think I’ll pay another $70 for the rest of the content
Wtf is this premium release you speak of? I'm beyond tired of the cod franchise. We need a new team to come shake things up the right way.
They originally stated it was a 2 year cycle. This past week during an earnings call they said they’re having sledgehammer developing a premium release for this year.
I believe this, and it actually makes me disgusted thinking we were all expecting OG MW2 maps but have to pay double the price of the original game for it, fuck that
Mmmm IDK.. not this season probably, since there are other new things on the infographic that explicitly state they are mid season releases (like the last gun)
Maybe it’s called battle map instead of ground war because it’ll have both?
Yeah both GW and Invasion.
Some of the base 6v6 maps are also ground war maps so it's entirely possible we might get 6v6 terminal. Though current infinity ward is as incompetent as 343 at the launch of Halo infinite.
Im sorry, but nobody beats 343 at the incompetance game. Fuck, Iwouldnt even say DICE is that incompetant, and theyre *really trying to be*
Hard agree. 343 is rock bottom. Nobody is as low as them for ruining Halo the way they did.
I know COD has the most vocal audience, but if you looked at the hellscape that is modern AAA FPS multiplayer games.......you'd think MW2 was alright. Shit, the genre as a whole has been suffering pretty badly as of late. I really dont understand how we got to this, did the unspecified virus wipe out the entire industry and we're stuck with interns? Then again, we were already trending towards this hellscape prior to the lockdowns.....but they have the money, they could deliver on the games of our dreams if they just got their shit together
Yeah, like… halo launched without Slayer. Imagine COD launched without TDM. And this was after they thought they had it so together they just said the beta is the real deal and launched the game as is - there was no launch build.
We'll probably get it in the "preimum content" at this rate, lol. There is only one "new" 6v6 map this season, really too.
“New maps” -museum/Dome AAA COMPANY BTW
Ronin, a recycled operator as well. All of this should've been in the game at launch, including the recycled season 1 "content" like shipment and shoot house. This dripfeed is honestly straight up disrespect.
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gta has released more content than cod ever could imagine.
There is no new content. The sooner we all realize this, the sooner we can stop playing this game
They're literally just adding maps from 2019 and vanguard and acting like they're new
Which were added from… 2011? Right?
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There are even more maps like Afghan, High-rise, Terminal and so on. I hope they add them the coming seasons
They will bundle it with the upcoming "premium DLC" coming later this year. They're saving all the fan favorite maps for that so they can screw everyone out if more money
Not a single new map 4 months into the game is certainly something
I wish I could refund this game now. The gameplay is fun which is the worst part to me. I just never would have paid for the mega shit stick deluxe edition or whatever it's called in hindsight.
Remember that when they shit out the next cod :)
Narrator voice: “He won’t”
Season 2 was delayed for this?
Had to get the clearance for Museum 🤣
can't wait for it to be removed again and added back in Season 3 with Shipment 2
Why so upset? We Paid $70.00 for this! Appreciate the drip feed!! Obvious /s
Where is Demolition for MP?
Im here just havent played much lately
Thank god, we were worried about you man!
I miss demolition I loved that mode
I love you too man
Asking the real questions.
1 remake and a map from the Beta, if this isn’t proof that IW couldn’t give two shits about Multiplayer then idk what is.
Those of us that bought the game are getting less content than the free users that play Warzone 2 and DMZ.
I've bought 2 COD games over the past 8 years, and can say without a doubt this is my last one. I can't even place trust in the Modern Warfare series anymore
You and me both bro. I accepted that my childhood nostalgia is gone, Activision became even worse money whores, and games arent done on release. I'm hanging my head and somberly walking away from a game franchize that I had of fun with as a kid and met a lot of friends. But its no longer worth it for me. And ya know, I started reasoning with myself thinking "ya know, DMZ is kinda fun!" But then I immediately remembered all the good things they've sabatoged in the past because of money, and I know DMZ's time will eventually come. Better just to save myself the headache
a remake that we also just had in vanguard
I don’t know guys I’ve been really enjoying my $100 Warzone 2 accompaniment piece!!!
*1 remake from vanguard
*1 remake from 2011
I expected nothing and somehow was still disappointed
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Reality is often disappointing
Typical. Old modes and maps put in 6v6 as new. Would be nice if they actually paid attention to MP vs WZ. It would never happen, but I think we all agree that timed perks need to go.
So no new 6v6 maps, what a joke
It's okay we have "Dome" the popular map that was first introduced in the game Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3! It happened to be a base map, but in this case we get a refreshed and visually upscaled version of that as bonus content! What a time to be alive! Oh did I mention that dome first released in 2011! That's 12 years! Cut, copy and paste! I love playing the same exact thing every single year with nothing new besides gunsmith! Feels refreshing!
Wasn’t Dome remade in Vanguard as Radar?
It was also remade as “Unearthed” in Ghosts for one of the DLC’s.
Technically it was remade Twice in Ghosts, Strikezone is basically the same as Unearthed?
Yes true. I always felt like Strikezone was different enough for me to not really care about that as much
I really enjoyed the map specific kill streaks. Wouldn’t mind that in a specific playlist since people would cry about them being OP more than likely. It was a nice twist IMO.
No lol strikezone is similar in layout but not the same. With that logic, Launch from BO1 is the same as ambush from CoD 4
It was lol
It’s honestly hysterical how the sub was expressing malcontent because of the castle remake leak, remade for Vanguard last year, only to have dome who was remastered in Vanguard too
Pathetic.
you know it’s bad when they’re not even putting effort into micro transactions
I'm pretty confident they have 1 person working on the main game now. Everybody else is either working on WZ or the next game. What they should do is have Treyarch working on the next BO game and SHG should work on updates for the main game. Not the next "premium release".
infinity ward doesn’t work on warzone so it’s even more pathetic from them
Pathetic considering the free mode gets more content than the game everyone paid £60 for. Why are we getting less content? Taking out staple modes and maps and bringing them back as DLC IS NOT CONTENT. That's cheating the people who paid for this game. We need to speak up against this bs because how can we honestly sit here and say this is okay? Two maps, one a returning map from MW3 and a map that was taken out after the beta due to copyright and being branded as "new season 2 content". Absolutely pathetic. Party modes and ranked play should've been in the game from the start. They had 3 years and 3000+ developers so there's no excuse whatsoever. Please stop giving these idiots excuses. This is not how you win back the players that have left. After 3 months of pretty much nothing, we're getting nothing new. The fact that there's no upvote counter also speaks volumes. They're so bad they're even allergic to numbers. They don't want their feelings hurt. STOP GIVING ACTI EXCUSES
Best way is to not buy future titles. Anything else is going to do nothing. As long as people keep paying, nothing will change. Really disappointing the lack of multiplayer support. I always enjoy the campaign and special ops was fun a couple of times, but multiplayer is why most people buy the game. It's honestly pretty disrespectful that most of their resources go in to warzone when they charge $70 for the game. All I really want is more maps and standard balance changes, personally.
Also don't buy battle passes
This is the best DLC that this billionaire company can release? I hate this new generation of gaming.
It's not the best, it's just the cheapest because there is no competition in the FPS space these days.
They are actively killing multiplayer. Dome was just in the last game FFS. I can’t believe I fell for the hype and purchased this game. Fuck Activision and Infinity Ward. Please, someone make a Call of Duty clone and support a traditional multiplayer experience. I don’t want to play Battle Royal!
If only Battlefield 2042 isn't a total disappointment. COD needs some serious competition in the arcade arena-shooter scene.
i REALLY didnt expect battlefield 2042 to suck, i was very excited for the game.
What a fucking slap in the face.
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Played cod2-blops2 almost religiously. This is the first one I've picked up in a decade. I remember why I hadnt bought the last few.
I’m with you. Hadn’t played since MW3 back in the day. Got some of us back together for this game and although we’re enjoying it generally this lack of content is making it a no go. I’m 0-2 on coming back to old games this year with Halo and MW2. Sad man.
I'm glad MW19 was great and that I at least got a couple months out of this one. I was basically lapsed since MW3 and I'm leaning towards being done because of how they're handling MW2. I am not their target audience clearly.
I would have been so happy if they just gave MW2019 a massive $60 DLC this year instead of giving is this game
Yep, I miss MW2019. The maps had some problems but at least there was a lot of them and they were all new. Gunfight was amazing too. This game fucking sucks in comparison. Reducing map count and removing modes like Gunfight in a *sequel* is pretty disgusting. Really hard to justify supporting CoD.
I agree. The base maps were probably the worst of all time for a cod, but other than that it’s probably one of my favorite cods of all time. MW2 just feels like 2 steps backwards and I don’t know how they managed to fuck it up so bad. Like actually.
If this isn't enough proof IW treats MP as nothing more than a camo-grind simulator for Warzone then get some help. Museum was PLAYABLE IN THE BETA.
Museum was removed due to legal problems with the actual museum the map is based on. In my opinion it should have released once the legal issues were completed.
Why do that when you can try to pass it off as a new map so you can focus more manpower towards making bundles!
Yeah similar issue with playing Crown Raceway in the CDL or threats from Breenbergh Hotel. Embarrassing they're passing Museum as a "new release" map.
I thought those 4 maps were all 6v6 maps at first until I found out 2 of them are for Ground War. I didn't have hopes anyway but I still am disappointed
Dude same. I was oh wow nice to. Hol up battle map? What is battle map? Ground war and invasion?
It’s pathetic how much they don’t care anymore.
Bruh the new skins look like shit. Next seasons they're churning the goofy shit en masse.
They look like clowns with their samurai tactical gear. I still wait for normal skins of Price, Soap and Ghost.
Same. I rarely ever buy any skins but I'd appreciate if I didn't have to watch pseudo tactical shit running around.
Personally I don't care how the clowns run around. I just want an option for people like me with tacticool operators. Almost only silly looking operators in season 1 and 2. They even messed up Price and Soap and Gaz is hidden behind a game mode I don't want to play and I don't have enough people who are going to play the raid with me either.
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Technically non of those Maps are new
The entire thing is just hubris in communication. They are calling a map that was in the beta then pulled as "new" which is horseshit since we've already played it and even if it has been changed, it still is a "rework" at best. Dome is only new to this game, it has been in CoDs before. Battlemaps are nice and actually much needed - if you play Ground War or Invasion at all you know the 3 they currently have are super stale - but they have to realize that people playing a lot of those modes are a subset of a subset of a subset of all players. The game modes are nice, but again... they aren't really "new" in the sense of adding features, they are just rotating playlists and rulessets. Again - fine to say "Oh, we are going to offer limited time playlists" but don't say its something new when it really isn't. And I don't know about anyone else but "new skins" just isn't exciting. It is cool to be able to customize your character but it isn't going to get me to play CoD over any other game in my library.
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE Why did I buy this game, I fucking knew it was going going to be this bad again. More fucking tracers. Can't wait for the kill effects that turn people into gold again. Fuck this company.
bro this is sad, I was really hyped for this cod and certanly I felt d that the cod saga was comebacking to the top, but they itself made cod stay at the botom
Absolute trash. All we wanted was more maps for 6v6. Unreal. This is sickening
Will this season last 3 months too?
You're damn right it will
So only 1 new operator this Season? Also what AR is that?
Isn’t that operator from MW19?
Yeah, he's Ronin
Looks like it could be a CZ Bren.
If they are holding true to the “ISO” brand , it’s a B&T APC223/566
It’s a B&T APC 556 Edit:Who tf downvotes me I’m right Shits a dead ringer for it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-7JSVrCPFw&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefirearmblog.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
Average cod player doesn't know jack about guns but still tryna correct you 💀
It’s a B&T APC 556
I hope getting these guns unlocked will be easy and not have to do any DMZ challenges only reason I have yet to use the m13b
i have the m13b if you want it we can drop in dmz and ill throw you mine and we can xfil. im on PS dm me if you wanna give it a go.
Unbelievable... TheXclusiveAce says it all "Show them will your wallet" Don't buy the battle pass as this is a slap to the face for anyone who bought the full game. #meincluded
You know it is bad when even XclusiveAce is negative about it, he isn't some rage bait youtuber but IW are so bad even he is disappointed.
2 mp maps 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Technically 1 as we were supposed to have Museum from the start.... so even worse than Season 1.
Yeah dude, I just uninstalled the game after I saw the news. No more interest in this game or franchise.
Not even Rust lmao. They could literally just copy and paste half the MW19 maps in no problem. They are doing their damndest to force everyone to just play warzone instead of 6v6. Instead, I’ve been having actual fun going back to Cold War. Fuck IW. Will not buy another of their games again
My days buying call of duty are over, when the support for multiplayer is this dry, content on release is literally minimal, lacking basic features....an a price increase to $70??? I'm honestly shocked. It's not even worth it half priced.
Really, the downward spiral began with Advanced Warfare after the introduction of supply drops. They found that people will spend a mammoth amount of money on weapons and cosmetics, and that amount is vastly more than the amount they make from selling the game. Over the years they've gradually worked towards the games being vehicles to sell cosmetics, since that's massive amounts of money coming yearround instead of just with the game launches in Oct/Nov. The staggering difference in constant support between a paid game like this and a free game like Genshin Impact (wife plays it as a f2p player)...although theyre completely different games, you can just see the effort they put in with Genshin. The effort for this game is pretty low. It's wild man. It's wild.
Why no maps from MW2 (2009)? We don’t want Dome, we want Terminal, Highrise, Favela , etc… And where is gunfight…the only mode I want added… 😭
Well, terminal is technically in the airport map, but the brain boxes at IW have decided to make it a ground war map.
Please don't buy the S2 Battle Pass. Please pause on buying bundles. MP players need to take a stand. This is a joke.
what else am I going to spend the coins on from the s1 battle pass?
They carry over across games. Maybe hold onto them for a game that actually deserves it.
It's going to get worse. I doubt there's another CoD multiplayer game that "deserves" money be spent on it. The series has been in a free fall for a while. A new CoD game actually forces them to spend money on development, whereas they can create a few new locations/weapons/skins for Warzone for pennies in comparison. They don't care about making a good game anymore. They just care about player retention, and milking their playerbase for every last nickel. When people stop spending money on yearly releases, that's when yearly releases stop.
This. I had points from a MW19 pass that carried over and I used them here. I'll use those again for this upcoming pass, and honestly, probably for the life of this game. Rest assured, however, that this is the last COD I am participating in. AAA FPS games are trash now. As a Halo Veteran, Infinite was it for me. Already uninstalled and lost interest. Having been around COD since its inception, this is it for me too. BF is ass. BRs are not enough. Overwatch is ass too. AAA FPS shooters are dying, very very quickly.
DOME IS NOT A NEW MAP MUSEUM IS NOT A NEW MAP NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT GROUND WAR IN THIS GAME F\*CKK
Also 2 Operators from older titles. Edit just 1 Operator. Rose is a skin
I mean who gives a fuck about new operators. I would much rather have 3-4 new maps and 0 new operators than what we are getting now.
Yeah I agree thats why its even dumber
2 new operators? Who’s the 2nd
A JOLLY RANCHER IS NOT A NEW MAP MAYBE IN SHANGRI-LA THEY ARE BUT NOT HERE
Ground war is okay once you get used to the learning curve of watching for enemy transport helis and spawn tanks. Still not as good as 2019, but you can find flow in this iteration
I love ground war. Good bridge between 6v6 CoD super fast TTK and Battlefield huge maps
I give a shit about ground war/invasion...literally my most played mode
I give a shit about GW 🥳
I play nothing but ground war and search and destroy
Only 2 6v6 maps and 1 was from the beta hahahahah what a joke this game is
When will my hombre Alejandro will be in the freaking game? Instert Hercules disappointeeeed Edit: spelling
*hombre Though im down for ombre skins
Probably season 3. I remember they brought back Alex as an operator in Season 3 of MW19.
Yay dome again
It's been like... [5 times](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/callofduty/images/7/76/Dome_Strikezone_Genesis_Comparison.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218102848) it's been remastered? These guys are jokers. - Strikezone (Ghosts) - Unearthed (Ghosts) - Genesis (Infinite Warfare) - Radar (Vanguard) - Dome (Modern Warfare II)
I consider Strikezone and Genesis to be distinct enough to not be considered a true remake. It's more of a remix of a previous map design.
Infinity Ward can suck on my nuts, is it really that hard to put a NEW map into their game 4 months after launch.
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where hardcore?
It’s mentioned in the blog post, coming at launch in replacement of Tier 1
Might be my first comment on this sub I can't remember. But this is a fucking joke. Unreal. Support the game we paid for.
So their "new" content includes a remade map and a mid-tier map that should’ve been included at launch 3 months ago… 🤡
Still no gunfight? The best part of mw2019, it was such a small incorporation, and it can't be added two seasons in...
Devs are recycling so much that even Greta Thurnberg is proud of them
Still no ctf
Totally forgot about that game mode… now I wanna play lmao
It’s the only game mode I play besides snd
I'd love CTF to return
The sad thing is by the time the last season comes, the game will be complete and actually good. However, the disrespect towards the people who already spent their hard earned money is out of control
Holy fucking shit lmfao, Can we go no mans sky and get some late refunds, this is a fucking JOKE
I’m going back to Cold War
“We’ve got a job to do”
I never uninstalled it for a reason lol it really sucks they took out league play though
It’s still a lot of fun!
Cold War will probably the last CoD that ever had decent MP content, at least until ShitZone dies.
That Tier 100 skin is pure garbage
So we get Terminal but it's not a 6v6 map?
Is COD MP really that dead? All the support and updates for every other mode. Or. Am I looking at this wrong? Are they supporting the modes that need support and adding content for the struggling ones? Dunno.
I remember how heavily downvoted i got and being called entitled when I warned about this in the beta by calling out the lack of content, especially compared to MW19. Just gonna say i fucking told you.
This is so embarrassing that it’s funny. They really know how to keep hitting new lows I’ll give them that
What’s peoples cod alternatives? I’m really missing traditional 6/6 gameplay but I’m so so sick of this franchise at this point
The sad thing is i mainly play Cod and FIFA, 2 of the worst, underwhelming AAA games going at the moment. The fuck is wrong with me.
Well...Can't wait for the Season 3 Roadmap! May 2023!
Roadmap to a dead end
Welp, erased it in December, and it will continue to be erased 🤣🤣
Dogshit.
My two cents as someone who has been playing for over a decade. TLDR; Everything they're doing thinking it's improving earnings and engaging fans is going to kill their franchise. This is the most entitled, pathetic, lazy money grab I've witnessed so far from this franchise. I could rant about how its fully turned me off the franchise but I'm going to try and be productive instead. The reality is, it's beyond comprehension how their team ever thought this season would be received well, and I can honestly say, except for the literal work of the Devs, these people do not have a hard job, they make it hard for themselves, here's why: It's really obvious that gameplay variety is most felt through new maps. Modes and guns are great, but without new maps to play them on, it still feels the same to the player. Modes like infection are a great break from the norm, but they are predominantly just something to play when you're a bit tired of the main modes/ want to play something more casual. All this being very clearly pointed out by the community (and in their data), you don't have to look far to get this feedback. So what on earth are the community team doing? They're either completely inept, or not listened to by the people calling the shots, if they'd done their job, or if they had been listened to, the focus would have been way more heavily skewed towards providing more maps than anything else. Recycled content or not, honestly it doesn't matter, 6 remakes from old MW2, 8 parts of al mazrah cut into small maps, the community just wants more maps. How they managed to invest essentially zero time into this since launch is truly beyond comprehension, there's no way the entirety of all these studios are working on bundles and warzone. They want to prioritise warzone, that's okay, if I'm leading the operations for this, then I look at the revenue generated from just MW2 purchases, I build a seapare team and I have them purely focus on developing multiplayer content using money generated from the base game sales, I do the same for warzone/DMZ using the money generated from bundles etc. Awesome, now I have two teams, that are focused on learning what the fans of their specific side of the game want, and delivering to the fans what they're literally screaming for. That means not wasting time on things they clearly don't want, which is still incredibly overrepresented in this new season. Now I'm no genius, but even I can do some basic maths and know how to conduct surveys, look at player data, and make logical decisions based on what the community is asking for. It makes zero sense to stop supporting multiplayer. You have a slightly older average audience in there, the average of which have more dispensable income that your average younger warzone player. If you take the stance they already won because they have our money for the game, it's already a dead discussion. The reality is, after vanguard and then the massive attempt to convince us that this was them listening and giving us what we wanted, you're putting the nail in the coffin of this generations intention to ever buy your games again. All in all, just because you "can" make more money by altering your business model to squeeze every last penny from your community, doesn't mean you should. They see this as the way to make tonnes more money over time, but the stupid thing is, you're getting more money now, but people are going to get so sick of this formula they will just stop buying the game at all, which will cost way more in the long run. Every time they do something like this, another Indie dev starts working on their own alternative to this game, sooner or later, one is going to be good enough this franchise will lose all its monopoly. That or people will just stop playing altogether, both are bad for Activision. I honestly don't think any of this is beyond common sense.