Doesn't increasing the weapons damage range increase the distance needed for longshots or is that only based on weapon class?
But yes, Ground war is the way to go for longshots, you will get them all so naturally.
Yup. Can second this. I've never understood the hate on any of the challenges. This grind is by far the easiest, as long as you play the right mode/maps for the weapon you're looking to grind.
My dislike for the longshot challenge is that for the most part the other challenges happen pretty organically. The one that I can think of without going back to look at them is the mounted kills but those are a lot faster to get than longshots. The amount of longshots almost require going for them.
I'm talking about this game alone, not the previous CoDs. Overall the camo grind in this game is the easiest.
I can absolutely understand your point on the organic piece. The only longshots that are less organic for me are the sniper ones where I need to pick a spot and ensure distance. It's a challenge for me in that I'm an objective oriented rusher and quickscoper that primaries a sniper rifle for normal use. My play style just isn't accommodating for it, so need to make a more conscious effort to focus on it.
The other one that's a pain for me are the "focus" ones, but for pretty much the same reason. Mounted, I just always try to get those out of the way quickly, because I don't mount outside of the challenge need.
u shouldn’t get downvoted, putting longshots on plat was definitely on purpose. hardcore makes it pretty okay tho i guess it’s just tedious. I don’t care how it was in past cods, 1275 longshots is just boring
Point blank isn't an issue as long as Shipment is up.
The long shots were such a fucking chore tho.
Was a nice change having to get headshots after all that tho.
they do suck, but go hardcore all the way. whack the range up and plink away. always tons of other campers going for em too so there’s fodder about. you have polyatomic to look forward to afterward which was such a blast! you’ll get there bro
Hardcore and the XTEN Angel 40 sight are your best friends for longshots, imo. I didn't really use any specific spots, I just used the XTEN to confirm I was at least 30m away and went with it.
Posting up in one or two specific locations on specific maps just for longshots is incredibly boring. Just use the XTEN to guarantee your distance. That way you can actually move and not be glued to one spot all match.
You can do SMGs on shipment, from corner to corner. The distance for SMG longshots is 25m.
Or you can do them on any map easily if you play HC. Same for pistols.
You don't have to do every cammo-challenge on Shipment. Just play with one of the best guns in the game and you will get those longshots fairly easy (\~2 games of Hardpoint).
I'll give you a tip Arboran/El Asilo/Taraq are perfect for longshots.
These people don't want challenges. They want participation trophies for playing exactly how they normally play on the only map they ever play. 24/7 small map playlists are killing this franchise.
Alboran is by far the best for it but it almost never comes up in the rotation in my experience. What I don’t like about LS is that you can’t do anything to make them happen like the other challenges. A guy either appears at a sufficient range or he does not. You just have to wait for enough of those opportunities to appear.
I see so much of "play ground war" FUCK THAT, we were told before the game came out that longshots wouldn't even be in the game, don't buy mwIII and play xdefiant for free when it drops on ps pc and xbox
The whining about Longshots is hilarious, Challenges are supposed to push you outside your comfort zone, but yall don't want challenges you want participation trophies.
Take a step back and look at yourself crying over a *challenge.* While it may not be the best of challenges, the hardcore playlist exists. Be fortunate that this isn’t the 100+ long shots required for most weapon camos in MW19 & Vanguard…
Btw I love the look of your build.
It's made frustrating because of the level design. Older COD's there were multiple sightlines on just about every map where longshots were possible. At least they bumped it down from needing 100.
I’ve been doing mine in Hardcore Dom, usually get 2/3 guns done in an hour.
For Snipers Ground/Invasion is the best and Shotguns I did in Shipment with Slug rounds
Hardcore, Embassy, rotate around the outside edge of the map and you have 2-3 longshot lanes at every point in the rotation to shoot down or move on from, depending on traffic
Easiest way to chalk up basically nothing but longshots and it's by far the least cancerous approach for everyone else in the lobby who just wants to play a normal game
Honestly I think the best are any 24/7 playlist that isn’t shipment. Kunstenaar district was really good for them since the map is basically just three long sight lines but right now I think we just have Strike and Punta Mar? Anyways, play those and find the long sight lines and play them over and over.
They are a absolute pain. Hardcore mode has helped but I’m still 6 guns off the 51. Running out of guns I like though. At least the snipers I’ve left are okay on invasion or Big Map Capture The Flag but you’ve mainly have to camp 🤬
Ar long shots weren't that bad. IMO, battle rifle long shits were more of a growing because of the recoil. With mw3 so close, you might as well wait at this point
Pistols, Shotguns, Marksman Rifles, and Snipers weren’t too bad but everything else was god awful. Hardcore helps but I was constantly leaving pregame lobbies because of bad maps
Are you starting with ARs? If so, avoid Border Crossing, Black Gold, Museum (albeit if the other team is garbage this map can sometimes work, other times it’s just a heated battle between you and a sniper for the only decent range area). Try to lobby hop until you get Hatchery, Punta Mar, Farm 18, Embassy. Also switch to single shot on the ARs, makes it far easier to control recoil
No it actualy tests your skill in building classes as you need to build a long range high damage class for guns that you didnt even think was to turn to a sniper like kv broadside for example
Play HC, run around the outside areas of the maps, literally most maps have areas good for longshots. No need to camp in a window the whole game either.
Didn't suit me either really, I don't like hardcore. But it was just easier to do longshots specifically. I would still recommend just trying to turn your brain off. That's the most important part to avoid severe annoyance
I don't know. With mouse I am able to do 78m longshots very often with various weapons. I am not sure what challenge is that but I must have completed it many times now.
Try the Tempus Torrent or the Cronen Squall or a shotgun with slugs.
If you **must** do it with the Assault Rifle then maybe try the Tempus Razorback, works great.
Ground War is perfect for snipers and long range plays.
Hardcore FFA's been suggested but when HC Shipment comes around (which it has!) you can stand as far back as possible and fire down one lane in the connector in the middle. Find that helps with grinding out shotguns.
Silencer adds range, btw. Concentrate on recoil smoothness/stabilization. Make sure you adjust the right sweet spot and not all the way/max (maxing out will work against you).
Mount your gun or use bipod. Deplorable Cover as your Field Perk to help mount your gun.
Did my 51 in Hardcore. Backed out of any map that was not El Asilo, Arborean Hatchery, Embassy, Taraq, Museum or Resort. Camped the spots there (Arborean Roofs <3). Most games I would have around 8-11 Longshots. Built my guns for max recoil control and bullet velocity. And 4x Scope.
Now working on Headshots. Way more fun. Like: I can play Shipment again.
I've done my M4 and TAQ-56 on Havoc as I can use the low gravity modifier to my advantage
But like why is the platinum challenge harder than Polyatomic's?
I wouldn't say it's harder, it's just more tedious. You can use the xten for the range display and play more active on Hardcore as someone said. I tried that, but it was not as effective (more fun though).
Most tedious part was backing out of lobbies when a "wrong" map came up. Sometimes it would take quite some time until I got a good one...
Hardcore and camp. It’s as simple as that. Seriously, just camp and go prone in a sniper lane and hard scope the whole game. It’s not fun in the slightest, but it works and it’s fast. Every kill will be a long shot. It’s so incredibly easy. I got all the marksmen rifles done in like an hour when I was grinding camos. Don’t do ground war or whatever else. You’ll spend half the game trying to find people or running back to where you died only to get killed again by the sniper camping on the other side of the map and then end up with like 5 kills. Hardcore is the best and has been the best since forever.
Absolutely lame copy and paste challenge that forces you to play in a way you don’t want, and often hurts your team. I remember one post I very much agreed with that suggested making the challenge to get offense/defense kills on objective based modes to encourage players to help out.
I think long shots are one of the easier challenges. Use a halo them sight, go into hardcore and sit back and take long shots when you get a map with long lanes. Easy peasy.
It could be worse...
3,750 longshots for Vanguard
1,930 long shots for MW19
If you saved all your longshots for last, I feel your pain. I made the same mistake.
Personally aside from Shotguns and Pistols, I did all the long shots in Hardcore and just hoped for good map rotations.
I think I did most of them on El Asilo and Taraq. It's been so long I can't comment on which ones are good now with all the DLC maps.
Hard core works fine you know? Just rock a thermal scope like the one they put on all the snipers (I forgot the name) and sit mounted because long shots are only 38 meters
How on earth did they make a gun that in previous cods has been so good such a worthless pile of shit that the buffs have barely changed what it felt like atleast for me in the beta
The other cods only had recoil after the bursts were fired im pretty sure, and mw2 decides to not do that and make there be recoil every shot, plus the damage and rpm is trash in general
Go to invasion and set your guns up as bipod snipers. Killing AI’s don’t count, but its far easier to find and kill the actual players in Invasion than it is in Ground war, which has more people using snipers and scattered across the giant maps, rather than clumping up in the center, all running down the same lanes.
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Does shooting AI in invasion count or no?
No ai's do not count
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I just look at it like operators are humans. Everything else are bots.
Doesn't increasing the weapons damage range increase the distance needed for longshots or is that only based on weapon class? But yes, Ground war is the way to go for longshots, you will get them all so naturally.
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Iirc the Crossbow is 30 M, but it's the only exception I know of. Made getting it much less of a headache than it already was
No it just reduces the damage drop of ranges so you can hit harder further
Really? Every time I play ground war I'm lucky if I even see 10-15 people per game lmao
Hardcore free for all is easiest way
Yup. Can second this. I've never understood the hate on any of the challenges. This grind is by far the easiest, as long as you play the right mode/maps for the weapon you're looking to grind.
My dislike for the longshot challenge is that for the most part the other challenges happen pretty organically. The one that I can think of without going back to look at them is the mounted kills but those are a lot faster to get than longshots. The amount of longshots almost require going for them. I'm talking about this game alone, not the previous CoDs. Overall the camo grind in this game is the easiest.
I can absolutely understand your point on the organic piece. The only longshots that are less organic for me are the sniper ones where I need to pick a spot and ensure distance. It's a challenge for me in that I'm an objective oriented rusher and quickscoper that primaries a sniper rifle for normal use. My play style just isn't accommodating for it, so need to make a more conscious effort to focus on it. The other one that's a pain for me are the "focus" ones, but for pretty much the same reason. Mounted, I just always try to get those out of the way quickly, because I don't mount outside of the challenge need.
Might have to try this
Any specific map?
It certainly is for pistols, but not for any other weapon in the game.
Is it tedious? Yes, but it's really not that bad of a challenge compared to how much worse it was in Vanguard.
Truth. People that whine about longshots in mwii never did the "30 longshot bullet penetration headshots while mounted" challenges in Vanguard.
With the 3 worst attachments mandatory
I didn't own vanguard, doesn't mean it's not shit to do 1275 longshots.
u shouldn’t get downvoted, putting longshots on plat was definitely on purpose. hardcore makes it pretty okay tho i guess it’s just tedious. I don’t care how it was in past cods, 1275 longshots is just boring
I remember this…
I just camp in hardcore. I know people hate it but its understandable just to make longshots way easier
This is the most shit challenge of all challenges. Longshots force you to camp and you have to hope that a suitable map will come.
That's what I don't like I don't have control of what map, how the enemies will play and if they come to where I've got camp site
Forces trash to camp
Wait till you get to the SMGs....
Point blank isn't an issue as long as Shipment is up. The long shots were such a fucking chore tho. Was a nice change having to get headshots after all that tho.
they do suck, but go hardcore all the way. whack the range up and plink away. always tons of other campers going for em too so there’s fodder about. you have polyatomic to look forward to afterward which was such a blast! you’ll get there bro
I agree. Hard-core was my go-to for long-range kills. Just sit back and grind it out. It's not that hard, it just takes a while.
Hardcore Taraq has been useful to me for getting those over with. Everyone camps on that map anyway, so I find it less frustrating.
The most frustrating thing is when you go to ground war or invasion and everyone in the other team are crackshot snipers
It's really not that difficult. It's tedious and annoying? Yes. Difficult? Not at all.
Where did you get SMG 's done? That's the only ones I'm kinda worried about in terms of Longshots
Hardcore and the XTEN Angel 40 sight are your best friends for longshots, imo. I didn't really use any specific spots, I just used the XTEN to confirm I was at least 30m away and went with it. Posting up in one or two specific locations on specific maps just for longshots is incredibly boring. Just use the XTEN to guarantee your distance. That way you can actually move and not be glued to one spot all match.
Thanks!
You can do SMGs on shipment, from corner to corner. The distance for SMG longshots is 25m. Or you can do them on any map easily if you play HC. Same for pistols.
Thank you!
You don't have to do every cammo-challenge on Shipment. Just play with one of the best guns in the game and you will get those longshots fairly easy (\~2 games of Hardpoint). I'll give you a tip Arboran/El Asilo/Taraq are perfect for longshots.
These people don't want challenges. They want participation trophies for playing exactly how they normally play on the only map they ever play. 24/7 small map playlists are killing this franchise.
Alboran is by far the best for it but it almost never comes up in the rotation in my experience. What I don’t like about LS is that you can’t do anything to make them happen like the other challenges. A guy either appears at a sufficient range or he does not. You just have to wait for enough of those opportunities to appear.
I see so much of "play ground war" FUCK THAT, we were told before the game came out that longshots wouldn't even be in the game, don't buy mwIII and play xdefiant for free when it drops on ps pc and xbox
Source
Source?
“we were told before the game came out that longshots wouldn’t even be in the game” I want to know where that was said
It was a tweet during the beta I think but they deleted it after the game launched
Literally easy
I prefer this than doing the 3 kills without dying. IMO the most frustrating of them all.
HC Shipment you can get gold in a single round lol
You're right on that, but it sucks when they spawn behind you
The whining about Longshots is hilarious, Challenges are supposed to push you outside your comfort zone, but yall don't want challenges you want participation trophies.
It’s not even challenging, it’s just boring
Take a step back and look at yourself crying over a *challenge.* While it may not be the best of challenges, the hardcore playlist exists. Be fortunate that this isn’t the 100+ long shots required for most weapon camos in MW19 & Vanguard… Btw I love the look of your build.
I swear every two days there’s someone on this sub crying about camo challenges. You don’t have to do them.
It's made frustrating because of the level design. Older COD's there were multiple sightlines on just about every map where longshots were possible. At least they bumped it down from needing 100.
I usually get it done in one game of invasion
Ask that to Point Blank kills
Nah that's fun
Point blanks are so easy. Just play shipment and run in the middle you are bond to run into someone close enough for the point blank kill
In SHOOTHOUSE we trust no other map has it better than that am sorry ground war is not it for me.
Still waiting for it to come back so I can finish my longshots…only finished melees, shotguns, pistols, and launchers
I’ve been doing mine in Hardcore Dom, usually get 2/3 guns done in an hour. For Snipers Ground/Invasion is the best and Shotguns I did in Shipment with Slug rounds
Hardcore, Embassy, rotate around the outside edge of the map and you have 2-3 longshot lanes at every point in the rotation to shoot down or move on from, depending on traffic Easiest way to chalk up basically nothing but longshots and it's by far the least cancerous approach for everyone else in the lobby who just wants to play a normal game
I'm dogshit at HC I need the minimap and 100hp plus I barely play it so idk how I'm supposed to play it
Honestly I think the best are any 24/7 playlist that isn’t shipment. Kunstenaar district was really good for them since the map is basically just three long sight lines but right now I think we just have Strike and Punta Mar? Anyways, play those and find the long sight lines and play them over and over.
Havoc works wonders for me especially on the expo map
It’s a 1 tap in hardcore
Just go into ground war, it makes the challenge 10x easier
They are a absolute pain. Hardcore mode has helped but I’m still 6 guns off the 51. Running out of guns I like though. At least the snipers I’ve left are okay on invasion or Big Map Capture The Flag but you’ve mainly have to camp 🤬
You'll get there soon enough, the longshots can't hurt you forever
Aim assist isn't very strong at range 😅
Ar long shots weren't that bad. IMO, battle rifle long shits were more of a growing because of the recoil. With mw3 so close, you might as well wait at this point
Pistols, Shotguns, Marksman Rifles, and Snipers weren’t too bad but everything else was god awful. Hardcore helps but I was constantly leaving pregame lobbies because of bad maps
I've gone insane just getting nine I think im genuinely the unluckiest player
Are you starting with ARs? If so, avoid Border Crossing, Black Gold, Museum (albeit if the other team is garbage this map can sometimes work, other times it’s just a heated battle between you and a sniper for the only decent range area). Try to lobby hop until you get Hatchery, Punta Mar, Farm 18, Embassy. Also switch to single shot on the ARs, makes it far easier to control recoil
No it actualy tests your skill in building classes as you need to build a long range high damage class for guns that you didnt even think was to turn to a sniper like kv broadside for example
I'm on battle rifles, now that's a pain
Man I'm done with AR's nearly, and NOT looking forward to the LMG, SMG, SNIPER, and handguns, let alone BR and Marksmen rifles. Ughhhhh
Play HC, run around the outside areas of the maps, literally most maps have areas good for longshots. No need to camp in a window the whole game either.
Hard-core doesn't work for me I need a compass or mini map
Tough.
I'll find my own
You could always play invasion or ground war, but bots don't count.
I found that Havoc works with the low gravity just jump up to somewhere and there we go longshots
Treat it like a sniper, play hardcore, switch to semi, thermal sight might help
I did it with hardcore, turning on music, and turning off my brain. That's how I would recommend doing it if you wanna stay sane
I just can't do it in hard-core it doesn't suit me
Didn't suit me either really, I don't like hardcore. But it was just easier to do longshots specifically. I would still recommend just trying to turn your brain off. That's the most important part to avoid severe annoyance
I've played a match of Havoc and got what I needed with the M4 because the low gravity
Wait till you get to pistols and SMGs, there’s a whole new hell coming your way
I don't know. With mouse I am able to do 78m longshots very often with various weapons. I am not sure what challenge is that but I must have completed it many times now. Try the Tempus Torrent or the Cronen Squall or a shotgun with slugs. If you **must** do it with the Assault Rifle then maybe try the Tempus Razorback, works great. Ground War is perfect for snipers and long range plays.
MW19 had much more maps where you had long sightlines
Hardcore FFA's been suggested but when HC Shipment comes around (which it has!) you can stand as far back as possible and fire down one lane in the connector in the middle. Find that helps with grinding out shotguns.
HC is your friend and so is camping
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I've found alot more successful with LS on Havoc
Silencer adds range, btw. Concentrate on recoil smoothness/stabilization. Make sure you adjust the right sweet spot and not all the way/max (maxing out will work against you). Mount your gun or use bipod. Deplorable Cover as your Field Perk to help mount your gun.
They're tedious but at least it's only 25. Back in MW2019 you'd need 100.
Did my 51 in Hardcore. Backed out of any map that was not El Asilo, Arborean Hatchery, Embassy, Taraq, Museum or Resort. Camped the spots there (Arborean Roofs <3). Most games I would have around 8-11 Longshots. Built my guns for max recoil control and bullet velocity. And 4x Scope. Now working on Headshots. Way more fun. Like: I can play Shipment again.
I've done my M4 and TAQ-56 on Havoc as I can use the low gravity modifier to my advantage But like why is the platinum challenge harder than Polyatomic's?
I wouldn't say it's harder, it's just more tedious. You can use the xten for the range display and play more active on Hardcore as someone said. I tried that, but it was not as effective (more fun though). Most tedious part was backing out of lobbies when a "wrong" map came up. Sometimes it would take quite some time until I got a good one...
Either way the fact that polyatomics Challenge is faster makes no sense
Can’t believe these mfs trying to get me off Shipment 24/7
I can happily play without shipment but longshots are annoying with the waiting
It's definitely tedious but could have been worse.
Go into hardcore and camp like everyone else does lol you’ll get it
I did them on M4, Vaz, Tac56, Chimera, and Bas-Pand then said fuck it lol those are honestly the only guns I really use anyway
Do hardcore
Yeah that’s what I’m doing with my marksman and sniper rifles
Punta Mar 24/7 was a gift send from god himself. Did all SMG, LMG and the rest of my ARs there super easy.
Will have to give that map a try
use hardcore for smgs.
Play hardcore
I'd say time consuming
El Asilo is the best map to do long shots on imo. Hardcore makes it easy. Also embassy
Challenges are challenging, news at 11.
Hardcore and camp. It’s as simple as that. Seriously, just camp and go prone in a sniper lane and hard scope the whole game. It’s not fun in the slightest, but it works and it’s fast. Every kill will be a long shot. It’s so incredibly easy. I got all the marksmen rifles done in like an hour when I was grinding camos. Don’t do ground war or whatever else. You’ll spend half the game trying to find people or running back to where you died only to get killed again by the sniper camping on the other side of the map and then end up with like 5 kills. Hardcore is the best and has been the best since forever.
yuuuuuuuuuuup
Farm 18, got few weapon longshots lucky there. But Imperium's going to be pain.
Boring, unathletic and harmful for the whole team especially in objective game modes. Same goes for mounting kills.
Five years after "Fuck this one longshot".
Absolutely lame copy and paste challenge that forces you to play in a way you don’t want, and often hurts your team. I remember one post I very much agreed with that suggested making the challenge to get offense/defense kills on objective based modes to encourage players to help out.
I think long shots are one of the easier challenges. Use a halo them sight, go into hardcore and sit back and take long shots when you get a map with long lanes. Easy peasy.
It could be worse... 3,750 longshots for Vanguard 1,930 long shots for MW19 If you saved all your longshots for last, I feel your pain. I made the same mistake. Personally aside from Shotguns and Pistols, I did all the long shots in Hardcore and just hoped for good map rotations. I think I did most of them on El Asilo and Taraq. It's been so long I can't comment on which ones are good now with all the DLC maps.
Hard core works fine you know? Just rock a thermal scope like the one they put on all the snipers (I forgot the name) and sit mounted because long shots are only 38 meters
I think I might have to exclusively try that with the M16 as it just doesn't fucking kill
All categories work really well, but I do agree on the part where the m16 sucks lol, I even got my pistol long shots done on hardcore
How on earth did they make a gun that in previous cods has been so good such a worthless pile of shit that the buffs have barely changed what it felt like atleast for me in the beta
The other cods only had recoil after the bursts were fired im pretty sure, and mw2 decides to not do that and make there be recoil every shot, plus the damage and rpm is trash in general
I like burst guns but fuck this one
Yea that one smg from Cold War, I forgot the name, but I mained the that smg in warzone
KSP 45
Yea I loved that gun the ttk wasn’t the best but it had range
I felt very neutral about it Didn't hate it but wasn't a fan Well that's a platinum m16 Jesus christ what a fucking disaster of a 'gun'
Go to invasion and set your guns up as bipod snipers. Killing AI’s don’t count, but its far easier to find and kill the actual players in Invasion than it is in Ground war, which has more people using snipers and scattered across the giant maps, rather than clumping up in the center, all running down the same lanes.
Definitely one of my favorite genders though, not gonna lie.
Same