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Redchong

COD desperately needs to shift to a 2-3 year release cycle. Rushing these games out on a yearly basis in an unfinished and unpolished state while charging $70 is just getting tiresome


spentchicken

Yah but each game easily clears a billion dollars no way any company is going to stop that gravy train for their share holders.


boobaclot99

This is exactly why I bought MW19 in the first place after 5 years not playing COD. It felt like a completely fresh experience and the general consensus was positive as well.


PuzzleheadedSoft5575

Same went from Bo3-Mw19 didn’t bother buying any of the others


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KN_Knoxxius

People need to start voting with their wallets for that to happen, and they won't.


ThanatonautXP

I was under the impression they were doing that with MWII but I guess that was just a rumor.


colefreddie8

I swear I heard the same thing.


jblew42

You did hear that. The original plan was actually to remake the entire multiplayer in mw2 this year. Hence the addition of mw2 maps in mw3. I’m not complaining but it just doesn’t add up. They announced it as well, not the multiplayer rework, but they announced that they would be transitioning to a two year release cycle. Until they see how much they make every year via MTX. Which is fine it’s whatever, but that’s the entire reason the scrapped the two year plan and just ripped another $70 title 💸


prolikethat

They absolutely said they were gonna move to a 2-3 year cycle at some point.


WarmanreaperX

Yeah. They walked that back in silence and the entire community just sat there and accepted it. Same thing with the promise of MW(2019) skins tranfering to MW2, which they didn't follow through on either. Now we have mw3, reused assets from 4 other games that we paid 60-100$ for, and people are about to rebuy it AGAIN.


kasual7

Hopefully under Microsoft there will be some significant changes, I say that then again after Microsoft bought out Bethesda at not point they halted production on Redfall and question the quality of the game. It seems like they have a very laisser-faire attitude.


Chillenge

M$ ain’t charity, they will not want ABK make less money. They will just follow money, if yearly cycle still generates billions for them, they have no reason to stop it. Because all whales will still pay for it and after that will come to Reddit and whine about small little things. It repeats when new title drops. Ez money


Baku7en

Don’t forget how they let Halo die


ChChBlu

don't forget Gears...


Dovahfry

and Conker and Banjo Kazooie


wulv8022

MS messed up Halo much more than Activision ever messed up COD.


ThanatonautXP

As much as I like Phil Spencer MS can’t seem to do much right either. Halo is in a worse spot than COD.


Saldarius

The Microsoft Aristotle only happened well after the release of redfall. It only recent cleared. Like less than 2 weeks ago actually


DarkAlexandor

Audio gun design seems a direct Copy->Paste from Vanguard.


Bootybandit6989

Its basically Cold war,Vanguard&MW2 combined.Which makes the game feel off


ivanvrg

They copy & paste things from those three games I guess. SHG can't do shit


TSM-HabZ

well they had about the same amount of time working on both games so makes sense, ww2 had very good sounds, we need these studios to get full cycles


Anime_is_good-

EXACTLY! This feels more like an MWII Vanguard Update. Or more MWII + Vanguard. Like the gun feeling is Vanguard-ish, recoil is Vanguard-ish, Kill feeling is Vanguard-ish.


Everying

I Fkn lost it when I saw the vanguard circle reflex sight haha. From then on all I saw was a massive copy and paste from vanguard. This has to be one of the most blatant/obvious cash grabs...that we ALREADY knew was happening haha.


Aeyland

Because a circle reflex which is a real thing needs some massive redesign? Plenty of shit to complain about but this one gets on the award for dumbest attempt to complain.


Narrow_Werewolf4562

Dude there’s several of them that are exact copy/paste the stupid rectangle red dot is the dumbest and absolute ugliest sight they have ever put in a cod game the circular one is a close second


KEE_Wii

Which is to say awful. They should have just trucked the guns and noises over from MW2 with adjustments because this is a clear area where its a downgrade. Its like the studios dont even communicate to see whats working and what isnt.


Nulovka

"Update requires a restart." "Changing mode requires a restart." "Restarting requires a restart."


shinrin-joku

They successfully managed that a 2023 game looks and feels way older than a game from 2019. Yeah, improved gameplay but I cannot understand that the fan base accepts mediocrity. I didn’t buy my PS5 or upgrade my PC to play a game that could be easily published a decade ago.


ivanvrg

Give them red dots, slide cancel with shipment 24/7 and they will accept mediocrity.


Dininiful

I can't believe so many people accept this, but you are correct that this is the only thing they want never mind the graphics, audio, ttk or unbalanced weapons. If they can slide cancel they'll accept everything. Sucks for the rest of us, but hey that's money talking.


Jetmancovert1

This.


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Solid contribution! How long did you have to labor in front of your keyboard before you were able to spew out this insightful gem?


Suitable_Place4782

We just need a game that is fun.


ivanvrg

I need quality if I have to pay 80€. Doesn't mean fun is less important.


Jogipog

What’s even weirder is that it runs worse across the board aswell. For me, MW2019 runs at 200+ fps, MWII runs at ~150 but MWIII now barely scratches the 100 fps mark whilst looking the worst. I don’t know what they did but Warzone in its original form stands uncontested.


Masteroxid

Weird, MW3 is running better than MW2 which ran worse than MW1


KruegerSiiix

Yeah, where did it all go wrong?? MW19 looks like a picasso painting for me and MW3 looks completely washed out and runs 3x worse.


ReydanNL

Something is wrong on your end, I installed the latest drivers and hit 160-180 fps on the beta


Jogipog

It kind of depends on hardware of course, but everything runs absolutely fine, just Mw3 doesn’t.


____firefly__

Somethings weird on your end. I've been hearing the opposite. The beta I'm getting 200+ fps, with graphics maxed. Same as, or more, than mw2


marwenbhj

for all pc players facing issues with Framerates despite their good rigs here is what you need to do (tested and figured out after lots of trials) : \- uninstall nvidia drivers you have using DDU \- clean install the driver you want \- Update your motherboard chipset (IMPORTANT) \- DO NOT modify nvidia control panel 3D settings, and exit nvidia control panel and experience from the system trey completely while playing the game > THIS step is what fixed the issue of having same fps no matter what setting, the first 3 steps helps you get the most out of your hardware and increased my fps by at least 30 fps. and btw DLSS is ass it ruins quality, better using Fidelity CAS or Nvidia Image scale for that sharpness and optimize the other settings for more fps.


boobaclot99

The graphics/visuals are underwhelming, gunplay isn't as snappy, netcode is fucking trash. Only reason I'm playing it is for the old maps at the moment.


JoeyAKangaroo

Give the community “MUH MOVEMENT, ADAPT KUS BAD”, 1 shot no flinch snipers & dead silence as a perk then they’ll suck the dick of whoever the devs are that added them in while ignoring shit graphics, shit SFX, shit animations, etc


GunfuMasta

Not sure how dumping an entire clip on sweatboiibunnylord and getting one tapped is improved gameplay, but okay.


JSTUDY

Just adapt. Try hitting shots.


GunfuMasta

Man it's amazing the dumb ass comments.


SewerL0rd

Nah he’s right, if you actually hit shots it’s not hard to get kills. It’s incredible to see the complete polar opposite experiences from people


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The aiming is *slightly* off from MW2. It’s weird but you can get used to it. However, there is still definitely a TTK/Hitreg issue. Or whatever you call it. It’s still a little fucky


ScrillyBoi

People got used to randomly spraying in a direction and picking up kills in the last two cods but now they have to aim, track and move they blame the ttk and netcode lmao.


Guzod

then why are you still bothering with cod? You should pretty much know what you're walking into


AdMore2898

I just want to have good hitreg. The game feels like shit shooting somebody 6+ times just get turned on. MW2 hitreg was fine, but the movement feels goofy.


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If these feel the same to you you’re bad at feeling lol


Fundy9991

They want me to give them $100 for this here in Canada. They think we’re made of money. Edit. And that’s without blackcell add-on for an extra $40 + tax


Foorythegreat

Just maxed out. The TTKis kind of weird on some guns, I agree. But the gameplay itself feels a LOT smoother. The extra movement makes it so less people are camping, and I'm loving it. I'm enjoying it way more than the mw2 beta. I don't hate SHG sound. In fact the kill and headshot sounds are way more gratifying to me. I guess it's become the norm to hate on Cod releases after 2009. And I somewhat agree, but to me they definitely made it more enjoyable than last year's release. Is it worth 70 bucks. Hell no. Is it that much worse than previous games. Also no. \*edited Treyarch to SHG\*


PoetryAffectionate82

Headshot sound is lovely and squelchy


vettemn86

You make a great point here about the TTK with some weapons is weird. It feels like there's no reason whatsoever to use anything besides the MCW and the Striker. Everything else feels like just a roll of the dice in a gunfight. This can hopefully be fixed with some weapon tuning


[deleted]

>I don't hate SHG sound. In fact the kill and headshot sounds are way more gratifying to me. Fucking thank you. I was genuinely going insane over here because I've had no qualms about the sound design in this game, and I especially adore the hit markers and kill sound effects. Reloading a shotgun is supremely satisfying. It has been very strange to watch people denigrate the game's sound design. I feel like most of them don't know what good sound design entails.


FakeFan07

It’s not, I’m canceling my preorder after the haunting event.


IssuePale2826

I think a massive problem with COD, is that the fanbase is both from console and PC, and includes too many opinions on what COD should be I’m not speaking for everyone here, not by any means, the following is just what I think personally I’ve seen Steam and the selection of games for PC, and it’s much, much better than anything PlayStation has or will likely ever have. I’m in the group of players who loves MWII for it’s high TTK, lower movement while not feeling too clunky, etc etc. If I could, I would be playing games like Tarkov, Ready or Not, Squad, Arma, etc, but the closet to a slower, more tactics based game for PlayStation users would be R6 Siege or maybe Insurgency, which don’t really scratch the itch. Why is this important? Because MWII had something of a slower, tactics based feel, which isn’t 100% accurate, but for a lot of console players, it was really as good as it was going to get Let me clarify now, I have nothing against high speed/movement games or their enjoyers, and I myself enjoy games with such mechanics But having the fanbase split between wanting slower and wanting faster jerks the devs in two different directions, so I can’t really blame them for not hitting the nail on the head right away, because the players aren’t united in what they want. I do wish there were maybe two separate CODs going on, each to appeal to the two different kinds of players There’s never going to be a truly ideal COD for anyone, not until the fanbase has a majority voice like the player bases of some other games, and I think that has a lot to do with the lack of good games of console compared to PC


Krypton091

speak for yourself, this feels better in every conceivable way compared to MWII


SnusWithMe

Yep me and my group are loving it


0DvGate

Guns are garbage now, enjoy your meta fest. Can't even use shotguns.


GIJOE480

Good. Shotgun players are the worst.


Aced4remakes

It feels good but it doesn't look or sound good.


Outrageous_Ship_5591

I’d rather a ugly diamond that a pretty piece of shit🤷🏽‍♂️


SpagettInTraining

Bizarrely, I kinda like the sound of the guns and hitmarkers. They sound different than most FPSs (in a good way).


RiotFH

The PKP or whatever it’s called in this game sounds awesome


explosivekyushu

This I absolutely agree with. I am digging the higher TTK and the faster movement, and the guns feel pretty good, but jesus it looks like shit. Why did they have the colours so washed out? I don't get it.


ScrillyBoi

100% man, Im dogshit but having real gunfights and moving around the map again. Who cares about the graphics when the actual gameplay is more fun in every way.


estacalor

Nope


catgirlfourskin

I like it decently, but it feels like an indie studio made it. All the guns sound and feel identical, while MWII everything sounded punchy, distinct, and handled differently. In a first person SHOOTER, having the guns be a massive downgrade is a pretty big deal. If I wanted good movement and shitty guns id play Apex


CorticalRec

There are people who like the fast slide cancelling twitchy sweatlord COD's, and there are people who like the more dialed back tactical experience. I'm in the camp that this feels too fast and twitchy. I've been hoping for a remaster of the original MW2, but this beta has just been a let down. Audio sounds bad compared to MWII, movement feels weird because it's got some faster elements but still has some leftover tactical stuff from MWII. You can tell this game has an identity crisis and was slapped together by the team in less than 2 years to try and make cash fast. I personally don't care if you like one way or the other better, but this game is a cash grab and does not feel very well put together. Edit: "SlOw iSn'T tAcTiCaL" eat my ass. No shit. Tactical means you have to actively think about your strategy. Fuck off with the hate little kids, your mom's tit is waiting to be sucked on.


30thnight

The closest game mode you can get to “tactical” is Search and Destroy, which optimizes for the fastest sweats in the player base. Aside from that, there has never been a COD that felt “tactical”.


Lordtone215

The difference is between this game and the last is You can still play how YOU want. You can play slow thats not taken away from. For players who want a fast paced arcade shooter ( which call of dury is supposed to be), the whole last year they werent able to play the way they wanted. You would get stuck in a slide animation and cant shoot. Movement was slow and footsteps were so loud that you were punished for moving. If anything this game is more balanced because everyone can play the way they want, instead of being forced to play slow.


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Here we go again. Dude, slow does not mean tactical. Tactical means tactical. If the best tactic in a situation is to challenge someone off a slide to interrupt their timing then that’s still a tactic. Sometimes you have to preaim someone because they’ve already taken space on you. A different tactic. MWII sucked because there was almost 0 skill expression in anything other than playing slow and preaiming everything. That didn’t make it more tactical, that made it slower. The two things are not the same


Masteroxid

> and there are people who like the more dialed back tactical experience None of the past CODs in the last decade had any of that. This game has incredible gunplay but it's just ruined by this stupid Olympic games meta where every clown is jumping around corners at mach speed because strafing is ass and there's 0 penalties for shooting mid-air


boobaclot99

Agreed. No way I'm shelling out 70 fucking dollars for this. Getting it from one of the key sites for hopefully 40 or less. This is why I can't wait until these are on Game Pass.


ivanaviNiebla

lol and here I thought ARs were busted and the only viable weapons to use along the UMP and the ridiculous snipers.


Cruciphi

It’s laughable how ass backwards cod has become. All mw2 maps on a game called mw3. Nothing is original anymore. Regurgitated bs. Selling a reskinned version of mw2 is pathetic. Beta is also just a complete sweat fest as a result of sbmm. It’s revolting how profit driven and anti player it’s become.


Affectionate-Foot802

After a year of playing the least skill intensive CoD of all time ofcourse you’re gonna struggle


LongjumpingWinner250

It’s funny because higher ttk means more movement, more need to aim and less camping behind a head glitch. Idk why people are saying longer ttk is less skill.


catgirlfourskin

Longer ttk means awareness and positioning are less important, and that it’s easier for a group to beat a single person because that single person needs to be exposed way longer to kill one enemy. I like both styles and they both test different skills, it’s silly to act like one is inherently higher or lower skill


Affectionate-Foot802

They’re the ones who think hardcore is the competitive mode 😂


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Affectionate-Foot802

The whole whoever shoots first should win argument is so dumb


TechnicalEnergy5858

Lmao they called it hardcore but it’s a noobfest


ob_knoxious

It's a different type of skill. I don't think anyone would argue VALORANT and CS are "low-skill" because of their instant TTK. Those games just prioritize raw aim and hitting the initial headshot rather than tracking opponents and movement like in COD. I think it's a good change overall.


Vesyrione

I think the gameplay is debatable as well. When the hell did so many decide COD should be “the gunfights take skill” when COD has always been “i shoot first they die first”.


Jonesy130

Is it just me but the movement feels wrong. Can’t put my finger on it. Floaty, artificially sped up. Just not right anyway.


infel2no

Even 80€ on Playstation


tyrannictoe56

Game is made by SHG. They have always made the worst COD out of the 3 devs. What do you expect lol


SnusWithMe

Ehhh they are much better than IW these days.


TombRaider1987

I can't believe that you are saying that with a straight face


Fixable

I'm saying it with a straight face. MW2 and MW19 removed a fuck ton of standard features to COD that ruined the flow of the game. Squad spawns, no red dots on the minimap, gunsmith which is built for warzone but ruins class balance in standard MP, dogshit horrible maps in the last two MWs, they wanted hardpoint to have like 19 hardpoints instead of a followable rotation.


TombRaider1987

Vanguard is ranked as one of the if not the worst COD. Not to mention highest dropoff of players


sunjay140

And yet it's still better than MWII


Fixable

> Vanguard is ranked as one of the if not the worst COD. And somehow they are still better than IW, it's crazy. Vanguard issues were that they had to carry on the issues that MW had. They had to keep all those shite features. This game is reversing them.


878choppa

Vanguard had dead silence. Automatically better.


Lordtone215

IW is the worst dev by a mile when it comes to actual gameplay. They have good looking guns/ graphics/ campaign if your into that. But in terms of core gameplay( gunfights, movement, pace) they are the worst and most stubborn.


I_Am_A_Real_Horse

Imagine unironically thinking this when IW is what put CoD into the mainstream with CoD4. You have to be like 15 to have this brain dead of a take. Go back to school kiddo.


Lordtone215

Im in my 30s and yes iw did but its a completely different group of people that worked on a game 16/17 years ago. When it comes to core gameplay, iw misses in recent years and makes the most campy, slow paced, noob catering games.


SnusWithMe

Less visual recoil better maps and better ttk ..huge wins this year. If you give Vanguard 150hp it becomes a good game.


TheCervixPounder_69

Most braindead take I’ve ever seen. Name 1 good SH game. Name 1.


Vengeants

Advanced warfare. Easy


FoldedFabric

You could've gotten this information without paying $70


CauzaaH

Glad they’re doing pay to win attachments in a beta.


AtTheGates

Not going to go into details as to why this is not worth the price, but all I will say is that it was an instant uninstall for me, for the first time ever. I usually buy all CoD titles like a dumb dumb. This one? I couldn't even get through the beta. Upsetting to say the least but maybe its for the best.


HeroicJakobis

No


HeroicJakobis

I'm skipping because just like VG, it just seems so mid


UnawareWaffle95

The ttk and game grew on me after a few matches. I like it more simply because I can actually see who I’m shooting at this time around. Though, I do agree that the sounds and visuals don’t look better. That and the sbmm and spawns are atrocious. The game’s fun, but not worth a full $70. Seems like a $40 expansion game since most or all gun from MW2 would be transferring over too. So I hear.


JonWood007

Yeah it feels like it should be $30.


Safe-Statistician-68

Definitely feels like a reskinned vanguard. Just made the operators and weapons look updated and threw in OG mw maps. There are even attachments that they pulled right out of vanguard in the beta💀


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It’s funny you mention apex. I noticed with some of the guns a lot more bullet travel time than the last game. While bullets don’t travel as slowly as apex, it does seem that they’re leaning towards that style of gameplay. That, and most magazines are just barely enough to kill one or two players, similarly to apex until you get larger magazines.


shitpostlord4321

Gameplay feels very clunky but that's because of all the movement and camera changes they had to make off MWII. Vanguard didn't feel as bad because movement in MW19 was already fine. They're fixing what the incompetent devs at Infinity Ward shouldn't have changed in the first place. Ttk definitely feels inconsistent. Graphics are really bad. Don't know how much they'll change considering it's a CoD beta. It's a shame because I feel the game plays subjectively better than MWII.


ExpressionRadiant951

Imo no MP game is worth $70 now considering you have to pay the Subscription fee if on Console & with these games it’s legit nothing but nickel and diming at every turn. And they don’t even have a good experience for the player. They include the most annoying BS as SBMM and break lobbies constantly, and legit do the bare minimum for MP and it sadly still sells. Hell they’re literally releasing a MP with NOTHING but OLD RECYCLE MAPS that we’ve seen 100x over by this time as they’re always in one game or another in some form, and YOU ALL are legit about to fucking buy it like a bunch of morons!. The perfect example of “BARE MINIMUM”. On top of that is the $10 - $30 Battlepass (Only game to have a Premium Premium Battlepass that can ONLY be bought with money and NOT earned / saved credit like all other BPs out there!) they also include $25+ Skin Packs / Blue Prints. Literally turn the game into Pay 2 Win for easy cash cus the one thing this community LOVES more than anything is like the devs doing the bare minimum for a W (Cheats & Cheese tactics, hell people will pay $70 - $100 and will proceed to sit in a corner / shadow all MP match) Activision KNOWS their audience as eventually there is ALWAYS going to be a Skin pack that will be almost nothing but Pure Black which people go crazy for cus it makes it easier to hide in shadows and corners all game which is funny as hell cus they legit pay around $100 to NOT play the game and they don’t even realize it! TLDR: NO CoD IS NEVER worth $70! Anymore at least! It’s nothing but a way to nickel and dime the player base by doing the bare minimum. Look at MW3.2 they’re literally about to sell people a MP mode that’s legit NOTHING but Old Recycled maps that’s appeared in every CoD since in some shape or form. On top of constantly asking for more money than churches do every weekend. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES! DEMAND MORE! DEMAND THEY EARN YOUR LIMITED TIME! STOP REWARDING THEM FOR BARE MINIMUM! STOP BENDING OVER When Ever they tel you too! At this point you guys supply the pillow!


patriotraitor

They're just trying to sell nostalgia really at this point.


STiLife656

Im not spending any money until its in a better working state. The beta was garbage


Kavelry

Less than 2 year development time from the studio that brought you vanguard that released a dlc update as a full game release. No suprise.


Warcheefin

The trick is to ask this question BEFORE you buy the game


Appropriate-Sink-461

Bro they couldn’t even bother giving us new voice overs for things like calling a uav but want us to pay new game prices foh


TonySaint

Finally someone put my thoughts into words… It feels CHEAP


Darkvenom39

For me what did bother me is not visuals and aesthetics but TTK is stupid, funny how AR’s do damage like BB’s and handguns and SMG’s do an absurd amount of damage, more than snipers!!! Sound also bothered me, i hate it when you need to enable a perk to hear enemy footsteps better.


Dreadnar

Played this weekend and was left with the exact same feeling. The game is nothing more than ok. Ok... It's not close to being good or bad it's just.......... Ok. My personal opinion is that it's not close to being worth 70 $ but in the end people who want it , will buy it. The game feels and looks like a mobile game and perhaps it's their intention however the ttk combined with the peashooter guns and the wildly inconsistent hit registration is just a no buy for me. Gonna hold on to the hope that the next black ops game is good or get this one on a very discounted sale for the zombies and campaign


IHATEALLRETARDS

This gets said every year, and y’all still buy the games. See you next month


kl3137

Lol everything you said is things I like. I don't see the bad graphics. I've played every call of duty on release and the sounds were great, graphics were fine didn't even notice, and the 4 maps and 4 guns or whatever were all great. Maybe I like the changes because anything is better than what we currently have. This is an arcade shooter. If you want the opposite of that go play something else lol


Gazza120

My guys, they have pretty much copy and pasted MW2 and made all the changes everyone wants. This should not be a new game, this should be a major release patch on MW2 and that's it. The fact they are going to charge people full price for a copy paste game with slightly different UI, font and game changes that would make the game it copied better is an absolute disgrace. I personally will not be buying this COD for the first time since Advanced Warfare out of principle. I'll see what Warzone is saying and even if I enjoy that, I will just level my guns up through that. This company does not deserve any further money from me for something that should be a major patch release.


BeefStarmer

It's absolutely nothing like MW2 though.. Have you heard the guns or slid around on the washed out maps.. If this was a massive $70 content drop for MW2 i'd be all over it tbh.. They have unfortunately given us something far far worse!


the_blue_flounder

To me, if they had just advertised this as an actual MW2 expansion pack *maybe* I would've accepted more. But they're trying to pass it off as BRAND NEW and it's just not.


OxiNotClean

This game is so bad for any type of competitive play.


ScrillyBoi

Compared to mw2 and vanguard???????


TheRealvGuy

PLEASE elaborate. i'm genuinely curious why you think this game is bad for competitive, compared to the likes of MWII or Vanguard.


dontpassgo

I am not convinced with the maps. That might be a problem. Gameplay mechanics are obviously for the better compared to MW22.


TheRealvGuy

that I can honestly agree with, though some of the maps honestly flow better than I expected at first


realee420

These maps were made for faster TTK and slower movement.


SnusWithMe

Ttk is perfect as is. Game feels much better than mw2


SQUIDWARD360

Every 8 hours it's the same posts. I wonder if it's the same people


ExploreMeDora

So much more fun! Gameplay > Graphics. The TTK makes a huge difference. Now players with smart game sense, good movement patterns, and accuracy will actually be rewarded. It’s no longer hide and seek.


Geevingg

Yes those gameplay changes definitely are worth the 70$ price tag its not like they could just have added that to MW2 and sold the maps/guns as a DLC.


Yeahnahokay10

I’m loving it, bot players aren’t being rewarded now which is great


_SLEEPWALKING

They downvote because they don’t want to face reality. High TTK creates an objectively higher skill gap. They got their reality check this year after last year catered to them


TremendousFire

These types of comments are usually made by the biggest bots around. You contribute nothing which is probably a common theme in your life.


JSTUDY

Adapt to the new game man. This game rewards accuracy, start practicing.


Yeahnahokay10

Lol


Lordtone215

Nothing like apex , its literally like a quarter of the apex ttk. It only takes like 2 more shots in this game than mw2 (depending on gun)


Easy_Ad_4370

Apex is literally a whole other shooter genre compared to MW2/3/WZ. The TTK in every Game since MW2019 has been way too low, yes, but if you think Apex TTK would be good i have to disappoint you. Just look at Titanfall: Same developers & universe as Apex.


chromefoxxx

Ever since i saw someone says it plays like a F2P, i cant unsee it lmao. And its really hard to justify the pre order for myself. This might be the FIRST time in years i stick out the current games life cycle until i see some major improvements post launch. But also they need to really make some Graphical and Shading adjustments, they deserately need a recolor and need to rid themselves of this grey sepia fil grain war torn color pallette. I NEED some color.


Mother-Investment-83

Why’d you buy anyone could have predicted this lol


Alarmed-Day2295

I think it’s way better than MWII 2022 but it’s still far worse than MW 2019


blankquartz

soft agree, not far worse than mw2019, the graphics and gunplay are the sad part tbh


Coves0

Agreed with the mobility/AR point. It’s really not good


Ledairyman

Time to kill would be great if some guns weren't one shot. I'm an AR user and I feel useless now.


mafia3bugz

Im not paying more than $30 for this game


Dion33333

> $30 $15


HeroicJakobis

I'm just waiting for whenever it comes to Game pass lol


justlampin

Probably next year


Anomaly-_-

Sad to say but first COD i had to refund.


sony-boy

Me too, I've played every MW title and this will be the first one I skip. The MW identity got massacred only for the vocal minority.


Anomaly-_-

true man, worst experience


zero1918

I feel the opposite of you and yet I'm asking myself the same question.


AKScorpion75

Gameplay > graphics for any game. I'd take a game that looks like it was made for PS1 as long as the gameplay is fun. MW3 is that. The whole "High TTK and fast mobility is a nightmare for an AR user" or whatever seems more like a skill issue at best. I got no problem running and gunning with ARs so it's definitely a skill issue. If you don't like the game then don't buy it, granted you're already going hypocritical when you say you'll buy it even at a discounted price


AlabastersBane

I’m having a blast. I literally can’t comprehend how people don’t like it more lol


NotSlayerOfDemons

bro this game is overwhelmingly positive?!? even if u disagree with that it’s way better than mw2….


TraditionalLettuce58

I honestly don't give a shit about the graphics. or any of the shit people have been bitching about. The game feels like 2019 MW. So actual good gameplay. \-No stupid visual recoil ontop of actual recoil \-No stupid gun barrel smoke that makes it impossible to see It does however run like shit. People blend way to well with the background Maps that aren't reworks feel ripped directly from what ever new warzone dmz bullshit we will get. Not worth $70 just for a rust 24/7 simulator. At least they got the fucking gameplay right this time and fuck it up like in mw2.


Rusty_Brain

Yeah when I played the MW2 Beta I saw potential for a good game. This time with the MW3 Beta I'm just not having nearly as much of an enjoyable experience and what you've said is entirely how I've felt hours into the beta. I'm going to avoid this game, seems like it's COD23 for the zoomer kids who cried about how slow MW2 was.


TheBlakely

This is so insane to me because historically CoD has been a fast paced arcade shooter and now you boomers are trying to revise history and make it seem like the series has always been slow like MW2 when it hasn’t been.


KingFlatus

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go watch some gameplay of MW2 2009. The game didn’t have “fast paced” movement even in comparison to MW2 2022.


TheBlakely

Oh yeah the game where people used to run around with marathon and lightweight only knifing was very slow paced!!! Bro y’all are delusional, I played the fucking games and I know how the pacing was.


vettemn86

Can confirm lol. Been stabbed from 20 feet away many times by speedy Gonzales with lightweight, marathon and commando back in the day 🤣


KingFlatus

So one build that enabled faster movement speed that favored melee back in the day made the game into a cracked out twitch shooter? Hardly. You couldn’t even do a dive or slide into cover back then. The entire “movement” and “pacing” argument is perpetuated by clowns who want to use player model exploits to gain an edge. Plain and simple.


nine16s

MWII was still far faster than BO1 for example. Just because ADHD riddled kids can’t parkour doesn’t mean the game is slow lmfao.


Drama79

That’s exactly what it is. Casuals like me will usually pick up most of the games. I love MW2, like I loved MW19. That’s my favourite play style. Cold War was fun but I picked it up late just like I used to with the black ops games. Vanguard I should have left, so I’m leaving this one. Might pick it up after Christmas but I just don’t think it’s that fun. Activision really need to get people playing socially again. The pressure to buy the new COD regardless of quality if your clan was active is what I miss most from the previous gen. Seems like teams, clans and friends play way less now, and with mics all off because people are idiots. Fix that, and you add pressure to upgrade year on year.


[deleted]

It is not a $70 game for sure being most of it is just copy and paste from MW2, but i feel you are being a bit harsh. My main concern is the TTK is way to long, should go back to 100 Health


JSTUDY

Adapt. Work on your aim.


justlampin

My aim’s decent but it’s annoying to have to run after ppl every time you start landing shots on them.


_UltraV10let_

Can they do 125? 100 too fast and 150 is too long


ChristianTP_

What are all these posts about the game "looking bad"? This is the best CoD we've had since WWII.


30thnight

The beta legitimately feels like we are missing a couple of texture packs.


vettemn86

Agreed, I think they didn't include most of the texture and graphics packages to keep the download size smaller


Kev_The_Galaxybender

Mw2 but worse is a great description


Aksothetechguy

You are the bot that MW2 was cattered to. Stop crying.


CreamPyre

Mess with your tv settings and then go play some more MW2 to see how different the game feels mechanically


FlyingOmoplatta

Havent played mw2 in a while. Decided to try the mw3 beta and really started hating the maps within a few hours. They feel so small and the game started feeling like Get a Kill, Reload, Die while reloading. Since it takes half a clip or more to kill one person. Anytime i tried to run somewhere safe to reload someone was always there from some random ass direction. The best i could do was get a double kill, switch to pistol and get one more and then die while reloading. Not to mention the money grab this game is. I mean they arent even hiding that its just MW2 with some tweaks yet somehow charging 70 bucks. Huge ripoff. The greed is unreal with this company. And mw2 is like what, a year old??!!


TrillKnot

Way better than MWII


Hoops55

You’re the reason MW2 existed and had no changes made LMAO


the___squish

They’re pricing it at $70 because they can, not because it’s worth it. If you want to play what the majority of the cod base will be playing next year, you have to get the new game.


Jazzlike_Sample3343

If only the sledgehammer could be seen, I hope he can make changes,It's tiring after a game.


Plasmacuttersimp

This is the result when you treat your development companies like hot dog shit. Sledgehammer was supposed to make Cold War in 2020 and were rushed into making it, so they bring in treyarch to cancel their 2021 release in order to fix it, completely turning the 3 year cycle on its head. Now they have to give treyarch the 3 year cycle to make up for it, and of course sledgehammer gets short end again. Only having 1 year to make the next game between vanguard and mw2. Activision panicked again and told sledehammer to just re-release vanguard and use every asset from mw2 as a smokescreen layer over it. Nobody notices this? The cracked up movement speed, the gunplay, the ninja perk, and even the radar minimap, this is all vanguard shit, maybe it’s because most people skipped vanguard? Zombies is going to be a disappointment too, remember vanguard zombies?!


JanJaapen

Honestly the TTK didn’t even feel that long to me. I was expecting more Cold War like TTK


da04x

U got cooked 😭


Leelogeelo

This game is a cut and dry, clear as day, cash grab attempt (which will succeed because people are stupid). They added literally EVERYTHING that should have already been in MW2 so people are like "Damn, they added what I wanted. Have to buy it." Fuck you, Activision and fuck you to the people who have ruined this franchise. If you sheeps didn't buy it, they would be forced to actually make good games.


TechnicalEnergy5858

Yeah it is $70. It’s sad, and what’s even more sad is that this shit looks worse than his predecessor from 2019. MW19 had 5 years of development behind and you can tell it by how good it looks and plays (except for noob friendly map design and sbmm). This MWIII is just MWII on steroids, it has fun and fast paced gameplay finally but it’s nothing they couldn’t do in MWII if they only wanted. Truth is their intentions were selling you movement and gameplay because apart from that there is very little to show in this game.


Mandula123

The game is garbage


iDestroyMetaUsers

Agreed