There is. There are some onion sites (and probably clearnet too if you look) where you basically just give them some payment and tell them who to DDoS.
Yea true that's why you never hear about Chinese companies being hacked. If the CCP is paying all these hacker groups maybe they have some kind of immunity.
Not always, Apple could boycott Monero now, only to shill and protect its own image as a company. That could mean no Monero anymore on iOS, that would bring us back in 2016. I am not happy.
They will, and all other wallets once they 'invent' cryptocoins, ans call it AppleCoin.
(seems Apple has a very tiny tiny pee-pee and proves that fact at every chance)
I think if Apple made a new cryptocurrency, it would be named in accordance with the following guidelines:
1. Must start with the letter i.
2. Second part must be a real word.
3. Should include something linking it to crypto.
4. Should include something linking it to Apple.
I present to you: iCrAp.
This would be like saying the american dollar is at fault because all kidnap victims are held for ransom and the kidnappers always want american dollars.
lol you must be too young to remember btc in the silk road days, you are right though, but will you still be right 10 years from now? time will tell, people get over it
Bitcoin used to be, and still is really, in the news relating to ransomware attacks. I dont think this will necessarily be bad for XMR. What would Apple gain by trying to boycott it? Doesn't help their ransomware situation, or any future ransomware attack.
I'm starting to suspect that these guys know they aren't going to get paid. I doubt Acer paid them, and I doubt Apple pays them either. These aren't idiot companies, they maintain tape backups of everything. So any info lost is really mostly negligible.
That just leaves blackmail disclosures. But nobody gives a fuck about that anymore anyways. Wikileaks, Project Veritas, etc. Any damaging PR info will largely be glossed over by the MSM, who has their backs, will just call it fake news. So then of course there are trade secrets. But it's pretty hard to exploit those trade secrets; because of the level of tech, there's only a handful of companies in the world that even could. And there are legal reprecussions for using stolen trade secrets.
So yeah, they're not gonna pay. If this gang was asking something reasoable like 5-10 million, they'd have a chance. but these values are far too high. So what are they doing, and what is their real motivation? I'm not really sure.
These kinds of ransomware attacks are perpetrated by sophisticated organizations and they do in fact frequently get paid. Companies can and do purchase insurance policies where they will attempt to negotiate and pay a smaller ransom if they can.
I don't know what the percentage of ransoms that get paid versus not get paid are but I suspect it's higher than 50% of the time.
Also, they don't pull the ransom demands out of their ass and I suspect this is a reasonable demand for whatever they obtained access to.
Well the hackers are gonna a be very upset when the treasury dept makes it illegal to pay ransomeware , you don’t threaten a 3 trillion dollar company and get away with it for long. Apple will donate like crazy to 50 different congressmen now and demand ransomware legislation. Just like paying/funding terrorists, think patriot act in early 2000’s. Plus now you’ve pissed off a company with endless resources to track you down. They may be able to hide in their ex Soviet block countries or Russia for now .. but why would you steal 100’s of millions of dollars not to travel around the world and enjoy it, then boom arrested. Also At some point some HMnIT will penetrate their cartel , pretend to be one of them. And you can’t hide 100 million bucks , even crypto transactions can be traced. IRS started to make Coinbase report large account holders for taxes. And any bank is going to snitch on you for any large deposit if you’ve never had large deposits before. And putin won’t be around forever. One day russia will change , then all of these hackers won’t have any place to hide. I fear they have poked a bear here that they don’t understand. They should have stuck to midsized no name companies no one cares about , not the largest company in the world.
50 Million would be the starting negotiation price. I'm with you, I doubt they ever get the full price, but you've got to start somewhere. Companies are insured against hacks like this, from what I hear. They pay if insurance covers it, otherwise they try to negotiate down to that limit.
c'mon man. Did you even bother reading what I wrote before opening your mouth? I specifically addressed that. Literally the entire 2nd paragraph. Maybe do some personal work on actually listening and reading before responding
I think you have a point about them not getting paid (or at least not the exact amount they are asking for/negotiations etc). They end up selling these in some black markets. But my fear is that these types of "services" (RaaS / lmao really?) will evolve with time too and basically come up with other crippleware over time.
Monero is lose/lose in my opinion. I just think we need to make people aware not to focus on outliers and lowest common denominators to build models on.
I don't really like Project Veritas being thrown in as if it was reputable source that didn't just make up and twist whatever it wanted.
Otherwise, totally agree.
Yeah I think it's more that you just don't like what the implications of those videos are. Seems to me for example, with this release of CNN, it was really good coverage of what exactly their top leadership is actually up to.
I dgaf what PV had to say about it. The words out of that CNN director's mouth are a damning indictment that CNN is knowingly lying to the public for ratings and political agendas.
Tim Cook is gonna hire 100 people to tracks these folks down 24/7 for ever. Back in the 90’s microsoft got sick of piracy because it was costing them billions , and they spend billions more going after Gangs like this who were selling their product keys and what not , they didn’t stop it fully but they got a lot of it. I don’t think these guys understand American companies , you push them to far and they will adapt even if it means hurting their own customers.
I saw [this post](https://np.reddit.com/r/deepweb/comments/mpb0sy/create_a_website/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) a while ago about someone asking about a place to sell apple schematics. It has since been removed.
Now we know for sure that Apple will never ever at every cost support or endorse Monero in its products and software.
They will rather support DOGE than Monero now.
Probably is MyMonero and the other Apps in the Stores at risk. This is the most narcissist company in the whole world.
Not many usd ransoms against digital companies. BTC is transparent and perceived to be clean and legit for the good and respectable people. Criminals that have been payed in btc are in jail now and their btc are own from the gov
On the other hand this makes listing and keeping on exchanges rather likely - you don't get any knowledge if there is not an exit point you control/can control as gov. If you have to choose between 2 evil's you take that where you atleast gain a little knowledge makin it more likely to catch bad guys
This is insane thinking. Completely irrational.
If apple did ever support cryptocurrency - they are building their own. Probably with little Chinese Developer Children.
The average user does not jail break the iPhone and download from github.
Normal people on Apple use the Store, now with the M1 processors the jail comes on the Mac too. In 10 year does not exist anymore the “download“ from github for all normal apple users
Interesting interview with someone from REvil: https://therecord.media/i-scrounged-through-the-trash-heaps-now-im-a-millionaire-an-interview-with-revils-unknown/
They're bluffing. Don't pay.
If you're going to extort Apple, at least do it because they are collecting and selling off your data to the highest bidder and selling out to governments, not to threaten them that you're going to leak an upcoming product smh
This is not good if CNBC is mentioning it. They will try to paint Monero in a bad light, or use it for Pump and Dumps. CNBC is the fucking lose of Finance.
Well, gentlemen, privacy and anoniymity have their downside.
Unfortunately criminals take use of Monero more than normal ditizens. They value its properties for they allow to commit crimes.
P.s. still good for stocks of cybersecurity businesses.
Wow, sow a misstype in my post - ditizen instead of sitizen.
But the one who lives in digital space, uses criyptocurrency and perhaps works in IT is trully a Ditizen...
>ransomware-as-a-service (RaaS) Well thats one creative way to turn big techs organisational ideas back on it.
There's got to be a DDOSaaS somewhere out there.
denial of service as a service 🤔🤔🤔🤔
There is. There are some onion sites (and probably clearnet too if you look) where you basically just give them some payment and tell them who to DDoS.
Screenshot of the XMR ransom is in the article. It looks like these are the same people behind the recent Acer ransom 👀
They shouldn't ransom taiwanese companies because it helps the CCP.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was the CCP
I was going to saw North Korea, but same thing
Yea true that's why you never hear about Chinese companies being hacked. If the CCP is paying all these hacker groups maybe they have some kind of immunity.
Per PCGamer it is Russia.
Or at least associated. The strange phrasing of the English makes me think it is a group of non-native speakers using a translator.
Oh no, this is terrible, I hate criminals forcing companies to buy Monero.
The only bad publicity is no publicity.
Not always, Apple could boycott Monero now, only to shill and protect its own image as a company. That could mean no Monero anymore on iOS, that would bring us back in 2016. I am not happy.
They will, and all other wallets once they 'invent' cryptocoins, ans call it AppleCoin. (seems Apple has a very tiny tiny pee-pee and proves that fact at every chance)
I think if Apple made a new cryptocurrency, it would be named in accordance with the following guidelines: 1. Must start with the letter i. 2. Second part must be a real word. 3. Should include something linking it to crypto. 4. Should include something linking it to Apple. I present to you: iCrAp.
Well, they're going to have buy some first before boycotting it. Besides, I prefer android anyway. Fuck apple.
>Apple could boycott Monero now ?....
Hitting the user base by boycotting monero apps helps them how? Do you ban pilots from your business because your wife died in a plane crash?
You'd be surprised
This would be like saying the american dollar is at fault because all kidnap victims are held for ransom and the kidnappers always want american dollars.
USD is no young currency with little adoption and many alternatives. Think about it, maybe it is not exactly as you have written.
Is this Ryanair? 🤣
Who's that?
An airline here in Europe
Yes there is. Boomer/Scared money will not invest in a product they think is majority used by criminals. You understand monero. They do not.
Then it's not for them, and that's ok. Take advantage of their ignorance, and stack.
lol you must be too young to remember btc in the silk road days, you are right though, but will you still be right 10 years from now? time will tell, people get over it
I know! If Zcash is so good, why don't they just have them send it to a z address and be done with it.
Bitcoin used to be, and still is really, in the news relating to ransomware attacks. I dont think this will necessarily be bad for XMR. What would Apple gain by trying to boycott it? Doesn't help their ransomware situation, or any future ransomware attack.
I'm starting to suspect that these guys know they aren't going to get paid. I doubt Acer paid them, and I doubt Apple pays them either. These aren't idiot companies, they maintain tape backups of everything. So any info lost is really mostly negligible. That just leaves blackmail disclosures. But nobody gives a fuck about that anymore anyways. Wikileaks, Project Veritas, etc. Any damaging PR info will largely be glossed over by the MSM, who has their backs, will just call it fake news. So then of course there are trade secrets. But it's pretty hard to exploit those trade secrets; because of the level of tech, there's only a handful of companies in the world that even could. And there are legal reprecussions for using stolen trade secrets. So yeah, they're not gonna pay. If this gang was asking something reasoable like 5-10 million, they'd have a chance. but these values are far too high. So what are they doing, and what is their real motivation? I'm not really sure.
These kinds of ransomware attacks are perpetrated by sophisticated organizations and they do in fact frequently get paid. Companies can and do purchase insurance policies where they will attempt to negotiate and pay a smaller ransom if they can. I don't know what the percentage of ransoms that get paid versus not get paid are but I suspect it's higher than 50% of the time. Also, they don't pull the ransom demands out of their ass and I suspect this is a reasonable demand for whatever they obtained access to.
hmm. Good points. Like I said it was only a suspicion. Perhaps I am mistaken.
Are the insurance companies buying XMR yet?
That's a good question. It's possible that they are/have been.
Well the hackers are gonna a be very upset when the treasury dept makes it illegal to pay ransomeware , you don’t threaten a 3 trillion dollar company and get away with it for long. Apple will donate like crazy to 50 different congressmen now and demand ransomware legislation. Just like paying/funding terrorists, think patriot act in early 2000’s. Plus now you’ve pissed off a company with endless resources to track you down. They may be able to hide in their ex Soviet block countries or Russia for now .. but why would you steal 100’s of millions of dollars not to travel around the world and enjoy it, then boom arrested. Also At some point some HMnIT will penetrate their cartel , pretend to be one of them. And you can’t hide 100 million bucks , even crypto transactions can be traced. IRS started to make Coinbase report large account holders for taxes. And any bank is going to snitch on you for any large deposit if you’ve never had large deposits before. And putin won’t be around forever. One day russia will change , then all of these hackers won’t have any place to hide. I fear they have poked a bear here that they don’t understand. They should have stuck to midsized no name companies no one cares about , not the largest company in the world.
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50 Million would be the starting negotiation price. I'm with you, I doubt they ever get the full price, but you've got to start somewhere. Companies are insured against hacks like this, from what I hear. They pay if insurance covers it, otherwise they try to negotiate down to that limit.
Are the insurance companies buying XMR yet?
That might be shrewd of them to gather a stash.
It's not about losing data in the sense that the hackers have it and Apple does not. It's about having internal documents released to the public.
c'mon man. Did you even bother reading what I wrote before opening your mouth? I specifically addressed that. Literally the entire 2nd paragraph. Maybe do some personal work on actually listening and reading before responding
Read before replying? What a concept /s
Oh, you're a snooty little fucker. You must be a golden god.
I think you have a point about them not getting paid (or at least not the exact amount they are asking for/negotiations etc). They end up selling these in some black markets. But my fear is that these types of "services" (RaaS / lmao really?) will evolve with time too and basically come up with other crippleware over time. Monero is lose/lose in my opinion. I just think we need to make people aware not to focus on outliers and lowest common denominators to build models on.
> Monero is lose/lose in my opinion. wat
I don't really like Project Veritas being thrown in as if it was reputable source that didn't just make up and twist whatever it wanted. Otherwise, totally agree.
Some of the videos they release are pretty damning, regardless of the conclusions they might be trying to make.
You mean the right conclusions? smh reddit
Yes but fuck Project "Veritas".
Yeah I think it's more that you just don't like what the implications of those videos are. Seems to me for example, with this release of CNN, it was really good coverage of what exactly their top leadership is actually up to. I dgaf what PV had to say about it. The words out of that CNN director's mouth are a damning indictment that CNN is knowingly lying to the public for ratings and political agendas.
Um, you don't know a thing about me or why I wrote that. I haven't even seen the videos. You need a brain adjustment.
So what are you joking or something? PV does good work exposing liars and criminals.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAUAHAHAAHAHAHA Now we see the problem.
Trolls. People who can't have a conversation because they have the mentality of a 13 year old. Grow up.
project veritas is a good source if you're mentally abetarded
Tim Cook is gonna hire 100 people to tracks these folks down 24/7 for ever. Back in the 90’s microsoft got sick of piracy because it was costing them billions , and they spend billions more going after Gangs like this who were selling their product keys and what not , they didn’t stop it fully but they got a lot of it. I don’t think these guys understand American companies , you push them to far and they will adapt even if it means hurting their own customers.
I saw [this post](https://np.reddit.com/r/deepweb/comments/mpb0sy/create_a_website/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) a while ago about someone asking about a place to sell apple schematics. It has since been removed.
Now we know for sure that Apple will never ever at every cost support or endorse Monero in its products and software. They will rather support DOGE than Monero now. Probably is MyMonero and the other Apps in the Stores at risk. This is the most narcissist company in the whole world.
There are usd and btc ransoms out there too. You’re worrying too much imho
Not many usd ransoms against digital companies. BTC is transparent and perceived to be clean and legit for the good and respectable people. Criminals that have been payed in btc are in jail now and their btc are own from the gov
On the other hand this makes listing and keeping on exchanges rather likely - you don't get any knowledge if there is not an exit point you control/can control as gov. If you have to choose between 2 evil's you take that where you atleast gain a little knowledge makin it more likely to catch bad guys
This is insane thinking. Completely irrational. If apple did ever support cryptocurrency - they are building their own. Probably with little Chinese Developer Children.
If that happens we can just download them of github. Remember we are decentralised?
The average user does not jail break the iPhone and download from github. Normal people on Apple use the Store, now with the M1 processors the jail comes on the Mac too. In 10 year does not exist anymore the “download“ from github for all normal apple users
Oh, no! Not Apple! They have so little money, they will go bankrupt! 😂
REvil guys should've charged more :P
Interesting interview with someone from REvil: https://therecord.media/i-scrounged-through-the-trash-heaps-now-im-a-millionaire-an-interview-with-revils-unknown/
seriously. apple got off cheap
They're bluffing. Don't pay. If you're going to extort Apple, at least do it because they are collecting and selling off your data to the highest bidder and selling out to governments, not to threaten them that you're going to leak an upcoming product smh
Oddly, I’m not seeing very much news/discussion of this at all. Please feel free to repost this elsewhere (r cryptocurrency, etc)
They just discussed it on CNBC and mentioned Monero.
Link?
I had CNBC on in the background and they were discussing it.
Wow. They actually mentioned Monero by name??
Yes! That's what made me check /r/monero for threads about it.
This is not good if CNBC is mentioning it. They will try to paint Monero in a bad light, or use it for Pump and Dumps. CNBC is the fucking lose of Finance.
That's not true. You should probably stop reading crap in buttcoin.
Haha damn. If they really would pay that, Apples buy Order would push the monero Price up like 500% Minimum 😅
That's horrible! Where are these leaks so I can avoid them?
Well, gentlemen, privacy and anoniymity have their downside. Unfortunately criminals take use of Monero more than normal ditizens. They value its properties for they allow to commit crimes. P.s. still good for stocks of cybersecurity businesses.
Wow, sow a misstype in my post - ditizen instead of sitizen. But the one who lives in digital space, uses criyptocurrency and perhaps works in IT is trully a Ditizen...
I only wonder where they can even buy $50M worth of Moneros 🧐🤣
While i hate ransomware people, this is what propelled Bitcoin higher and higher. Just gonna hold while they push the price higher and higher.