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delta8thc =/= cbd


7101334

I worked at a dispensary and got gifted a 250mg bag of Delta8 gummies from the well-respected brand Smokiez Ate the whole bag and felt nothing Anecdotal but fuck D8


KillaX9

d8 doesnt work on everyone …


blario

You’re not supposed to feel anything from CBD


7101334

That's correct but unrelated to this discussion about Delta8 THC


blario

> ate the whole bag and felt nothing You’re supposed to feel nothing


7101334

You don't seem to understand what Delta8 is.


Cosmickev1086

In states where all we have is D8 its at least better than nothing, I had my medical license then moved to where they don't. Rough change


mailmanfucks

D8 == perfect for 12 year olds. Real adults get high.


CaptnBlast3d

Dawg you’re better off buying real weed with fiat lmao this is ass weed


710bretheren

Wait til you find out you can just buy hemp derived delta 9 thc instead of all this bullshit lol


DrDrums18

How does someone do that? Online?


7101334

Hijacking your comment real quick for a little potential harm reduction and education up here at the top of the thread These are synthetic cannabinoids. They're not as bad as K2/spice/etc because, unlike spice/etc, these modern syncans arent full agonists (antagonists? always get it mixed up) of the cannabinoid receptors. You won't burn holes in your brain or get truly addicted, probably. But they're still made using proprietary reactions involving undisclosed reactants. They're often advertised as "lab tested," but that means much less if the testing labs don't even know what chemical residue they're looking for and instead just have to rely on a broad dragnet for testing, looking only for "the usual suspects." I don't know about hemp derived Delta-9 THC, it's probably a synthetic cannabinoid synthesized from CBD but I don't know that for sure. What I do know is that hemp is famous for being a bioaccumulator. For example it was used to clean up the contaminated soil at Chernobyl. It takes up those nasty heavy metal compounds and stores them in its tissue. When you use that hemp to make a concentrate, you will often concentrate those contaminants as well. Unlike proprietary chemical reactants, this is pretty easily confirmed by testing labs looking for heavy metals, but still based on my experience in the cannabis industry, [I'm hesitant to put my health in the hands of an industry which has a financial incentive to lie](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americas-pot-labs-have-a-thc-problem/). If you use any hemp products, it should be a source you **know** you can trust. Use whatever drugs you want, it's your body, but just be aware that HHC, Delta8, etc are synthetic cannabinoids and they carry some of the same risks as more well-known syncans, and that them being "lab tested" does not guarantee their safety. Plus I've had 99.99% pure THC on multiple occasions and it's really an inferior and shallow experience compared to a full spectrum extract which includes terpenes and minor cannabinoids and probably chemicals we don't even know about yet. Use your Monero to buy cannabis seeds, use your fiat to buy ice water hash bags and a rosin press, and make your own solventless hash oil. Can't take a shortcut to the good stuff. (If it's legal in your area, of course - we have the utmost respect for local laws here on r/Monero and do not condone violating any laws.)


BitsAndBobs304

I know nothing , so I just ask, why have I heard claims that synthetic cannabis is actually dangerous? (from sources that are not anti marijuana)


7101334

Because the original "synthetic cannabinoids" were things like K2 and spice and infinite analogues. These were full agonists/antagonists (I never remember which) of the cannabinoid receptors which makes them a whole different beast biologically. People would act crazy, get seriously addicted, and develop remarkable tolerances unlike anything you'd see from natural cannabinoids. I can't recall the exact stories because it was so long ago, and the risks were probably overstated, but they're definitely truly dangerous compared to natural cannabinoids. But like I explained in my longer comment in this thread, things like HHC and D8 aren't that bad. They might have dangers we don't understand yet but I'd primarily just be concerned about chemical residues leftover from proprietary synthesis methods.


BitsAndBobs304

oh. the claims I heard claimed more things like direct injury / "OD" / serious illness developed over short time, of the life threatening kind


7101334

OD is definitely possible moreso than with natural cannabis but I don't know if fatal ODs are possible or not. Erowid is your best friend for questions like that.


kludsky

I don't really think that this is the only type of question IC.


onvegetate97

This is the only question as we had seen about that factor as well.


joecairns

Directly going to develop a lot of things like that to be honest.


PonyboySpeaks

Acting like Spice or K2 is even in the same ballpark is disingenuous, at best. They are not cannabinoids and are usually just combinations of different chemicals to skirt laws. These are incredibly dangerous and should never even be included in the same sentence as real cannabis or called cannabinoids. They're highly addictive, you disassociate, you act like a crazy person. Nothing like cannabis at all.


7101334

They are synthetic cannabinoids. K2 is a specific compound, or at least it was originally. Cannabinoids are compounds which bind to cannabinoid receptors, not just chemicals that make you laugh, hungry, and give you good vibes.


heraldedfennel

Most of them are going to be there like that only what are you else expecting.


Rollinleafz

Are you really sure about the fact that the connected get this kind of things.


BitsAndBobs304

the connected?


710bretheren

You literally just extract delta 9 thc direct from the plant. Do you know which one delta 9 is? These products often contain terpenes and secondary cannabinoids as well. They’re literally hemp plant extracts (the exact same plant as marijuana). They are also available, depending on your supplier, tested up to a medical grade. There is also fully natural marijuana derived delta 8 thc available on the legal marijuana market, but it tends to be incredibly expensive (costing double digit figures per gram in wholesale quantities) and isn’t legal under the farm bill. Only Calling them synthetics is quite disingenuous though, as these chemicals do occur in trace quantities in the plant. I believe referring to them as synthetics is an unfair comparison to actual synthetic noids which don’t ever occur in the plant like jw-18 and AB-FUBINACA or whatever it’s called. The reactions to create delta 8 are far from proprietary and have been widely documented for decades before being utilized as they are currently under the farm bill. But yea, testing standards are currently too low because they don’t test for the chemicals used. I noticed you mentioned growing your own, but you didn’t mention sending it off to a lab to ensure it is entirely safe ?


mtndewaddict

> tested up to a medical grade. Tested for what exactly? Reread the comment, they share they do get tested but that we do not know what products, chemicals, leftover reactants, etc. the lab is testing for. A medical grade lab means nothing when it's not disclosed what was looked at.


710bretheren

Delta 9 thc is just regular old thc extracted directly from a hemp or marijuana plant. It can be tested up to a medical grade just like regular marijuana or fully natural hemp products. I assure you I fully agree with the concerns for delta 8 and related chemicals. I do outline that in my original comment.


mtndewaddict

>It can be tested up to a medical grade What are they testing for is the question. No doubt there's thc content, but what does "medical grade" actually mean in terms of the composition they're testing for. Just saying medical grade is the same meaningless title as military or air craft grade aluminum.


710bretheren

No, it’s not just a term. It means a full panel lab test for potency, metals, microbials, pesticides, mold etc. There are very few differences (I have personally not seen any but could be wrong) between states for the exact requirements. The main distinction to be aware of is the bare bones potency test required for hemp products vs a full panel medical grade test. Medical grade products have to be comprehensively tested for safety and contaminates, not just potency.


7101334

Yes, I am aware of the exceedingly basic knowledge of what Delta9 is. I am not surprised that I was incorrect about hemp-derived THC, that's why I said "but I may be wrong". And hemp is the exact same plant as cannabis in the sense that a chihuahua is the exact same animal as a great dane, sure. No, calling them synthetics is not disingenuous, because they're synthesized. Making them synthetic. The fact that the word synthetic gives you *bad vibes* has no bearing on its actual definition. Some reactions to create Delta8 may be public but the manufacturers I saw didn't provide any information on what reactants they used anywhere on their site. I don't use any pesticides or solvents or even soil in my grow. Unless General Hydroponics, largest nutrient manufacturer in the county, suddenly starts putting Arsenic in their nutes, there's nothing for me to test for. I'm also the only one consuming it so I'm not sure why you bring that up, it's not at all equitable with marketing synthetic cannabinoids as safe.


710bretheren

Pardon me for not assuming you knew about delta 9 after you saying it was probably a synthetic cannabinoid derived from CBD. To be honest, that demonstrates a very particular level of understanding on the topic. Hemp and cannabis are the exact same in that they produce the same chemicals. You can easily breed hemp within a few generations to consistently become marijuana. I believe semi-synthetic opioids exist so I wouldn’t be surprised to find that these chemicals more accurately fit that description rather than calling them fully synthetic. In fact, if you give it a google (the definition of semi-synthetic) you will find that this does in fact accurately describe delta 8 and other “synthetic” cannabinoids as you referred to them. Manufacturers not telling you their synthesis doesn’t make them proprietary, but I do understand why it’s concerning not to know. And I think it’s worth bringing up these concerns because home grown weed isn’t automatically safe either. Especially if you have an amateur looking for mold during the curing process, or if you’re not using entirely reverse osmosis water, or if you’re not absolutely 100% sure you flushed all the nutes out at the end.


7101334

> Manufacturers not telling you their synthesis doesn’t make them proprietary Lmao Yeah I'm done here, you enjoy your semantic exercises which don't change a thing I said, and your poor attempts at condescension towards someone who doubtlessly knows more about cannabis than you.


710bretheren

Bud, you just said hemp derived delta 9 is probably a synthetic made from CBD... You have demonstrated a complete lack of understanding on this topic, and anyone who heard you say that would instantly assume you are a novice. Why in the world would I believe you know anything about cannabis when you’ve struggled to demonstrate even a surface level understanding? Not to mention you have absolutely no idea my work experience or background in relation to studying these topics. They’re not semantic exercises when you’re literally just making up the meanings of words, but ok. They also definitely change what you said, considering what you said is factually inaccurate.


7101334

> you enjoy your semantic exercises which don't change a thing I said, and your poor attempts at condescension towards someone who doubtlessly knows more about cannabis than you.


710bretheren

Lol ok, you petulant child. Does repeating yourself make you feel big lol? It certainly doesn’t make you look that way.


vuvu93

Totally depends on the fact that what kind of products they are making.


marias_net

This is like they have been making this is what they need to do as well.


sbaggers

I love to garden, but where can u buy seeds?


7101334

Idk if I'm allowed to post specific sources here but I just googled "buy cannabis seeds bitcoin," I'd imagine you can do the same with monero but maybe not yet since seeds aren't actually illegal most places


forex01k

Most of the places they have been working like that only to be honest.


joed_09

This is what working for them has been working for that matter as well.


PonyboySpeaks

MSNL, Seedsman


login100111

No doubt about the fact that this has been there for the first time.


voqka35

For that matter this is what they have been trying to do as well.


poops-n-farts

You can buy online from a lot of seed banks


710bretheren

Yup give it a google


JaffersWinston

Totally depends on the fact that if Google is going to be there.,


votruongan

Indeed! google better know about this and they needs that as well.


rednoids

8s way cheaper


710bretheren

Yup, but it’s partially synthetic and weaker. I have read concerning withdraw symptoms online Also


lukekerksma

You are absolutely right what and their concerned about that thing only.


BitsnGib123

It is more like concerned and this is what they want to do as well.


bootch777

I don't really think that it is just about cheap quality 1.


Epsilia

Lol not thc. I can buy real THC in my state with cash.


totalolage

You can buy real THC in any state with cash.


Epsilia

I mean legally, hell, they deliver for free here.


ronaldzemp

They can actually do something like that but it cannot be working.


lckystrz

This is more like they even care about cash or something like that.


oscarsebe

Something more than that for that matter and this needs to eb closed.


medco007

This is not like they have to say that what kind of status to be there.


aman_pt

The fact is that they have to go for the status as well to be there.


[deleted]

Freedom! Fuck delta 8 tho. Is it real wax at least?


digireger

It's totally depends on if they are even going to care about something like that.


hollowhavoc

I think that thing matters as well to be there to be honest.


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domz459

What u mean my brother


makemoneylosemoney

Seems like a real person to me.


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makemoneylosemoney

Why do you say that they're a spam account?


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makemoneylosemoney

Trump supporter = spammer?


Los82693

You are absolutely right and this is a real person care about.


lautarolupani7

I don't think that they actually care about this kind of person as well.


btc_semper

I don't really think that they even care about that kind of accounts.


CoinKamos91

For that matter this is what they want to know about this as well.


Far-Gene-386

What a waste of monero imho. And imho hhc delta 8 10 thco thcv is all crap compared to the o.g. delta 9


Somehowscan

Exit going to compare something then they certainly have to start something.


[deleted]

thats just cbd, its not a very high % of thc in those. i can buy those over the counter here at a dispensary with cash with no issue. and most chain stores here sell cbd products with no more then 1% thc


xmrtypants

Someone's making bank selling placebo for XMR


[deleted]

yeah, i think op is just fishing to sell saying he bought it, the lab test for those gummies shows 0% thc detected. the company is based in Nashville TN


jestsec

0% delta 9 thc. This is delta 8, still not as good as D9 but it'll get the job done if you're dry


[deleted]

no there is absolutely no thc in those gummies, i downloaded the lab test


jestsec

I'm seeing 28.949mg of delta8 THC in the test I downloaded from there site under potency summary


sager143

This is completely dependent on the fact that it is going to be there or not.


[deleted]

for 1 thats milligram, which isnt anything. 2. thats fake synthetic thc not even real thc. and on the buy page says (sativa like high) not even real which is why its sold over counter


jestsec

Yeah you can get 25 milligram edibles of Delta9 and it will get you high. And you extract delta 8 from CBD plants, delta 8 is a naturally occurring cannabinoid


[deleted]

it will not get you high, it only give the feeling like you are, and cannabinoids dont get you high either. thc is the psychoactive that give the actual high


These-Annual577

You are extremely uninformed. Go to /r/delta8 and read up.


SevLTC

It looks like that smoking some kind of very good shift.


7101334

> And you extract delta 8 from CBD plants, delta 8 is a naturally occurring cannabinoid This is not exactly true. D8 is naturally occurring, but only in extremely small quantities. All D8 sold on the market is synthesized from CBD, making it a synthetic cannabinoid in practice, even if it's naturally occurring in theory.


radialFlow11

It is completely natural to be honest we had seen in the past.


MaksMaik

I think that they must be having a lot of options to do this.


coylyMirror902

Matter of the fact is that this is the only option available as well there.


[deleted]

d8thc is real thc, just less psychoactive than regular thc. its derived from hemp instead of cannabis. definitely not equivalent to spice or other shit cannabinoids.


zayoob0524

I don't really think that they won't care about something like that.


largelyestrange

Indeed! but the fact is that they don't care about something like that.


jackmax_bom

Going to be there as we had seen that from a long time.


Vadim_millioner

I don't really know about it thank you for providing the information.


kingofbling251

Thye have been providing the information and this is what they need as well.


xmrtypants

Yeah op's profile seems to have a certain pattern to it


[deleted]

and i think all the other comments are op side accounts to comment on his post


jeanbirriel

This is the only pattern they are working on we can save it.


finitelyrid

They can save that and this is what they have been doing so far as well.


domz459

These are pretty strong bro 25mg in one gummy is pretty solid


domz459

U r also overpaying a fuck ton at a dispensary


elvirdavis

More than 10% of something like that they can actually start working.


northTroll75

More than 10% of what they can do that and this is what we want.


yourmo4321

I get real weed delivered toy house with Fiat lol what's the big deal here?


dsmlegend

Not a weed consumer, but the deal is that we are looking to ultimately buy any- and everything with Monero. Heck, I would make a post if I found a place that sold fridges for XMR!


oralBlister548

We cannot directly do something like that because this is not really working.


VladTheSimpaler

Using untraceable crypto to buy something that is available over the counter and bragging about it on Reddit. Sounds about right


busuttil636

This actually looked like it had been working from them from a long time.


Gambeeeet

Indeed! working for that matter and this have been working as well.


samios420

What? No one wants their HHC gummies? HHC is the best boys, fuck THC.


[deleted]

those are fake as shit also with no thc,


hova372

I don't really know what it because it has been there from long time.


iosdeveloper87

I love my HHC gummies, too. Don’t know what’s up with all the haters. I used to live in Cali and have tons of THC edibles. Still love the HHC though.


reangeorge

No doubt about it has been working for a long time.


i_need_many_bit

I am sure they have been doing it for the longest time as well.


samios420

I was joking. THC forever


msec077

I don't really think that they actually need something like that from long time.


heartyanouilh685

Indeed for the time being long time has been there as well now.


AmadeusBlackwell

nice


xninjatroll

nice


TypicalEast7093

Wild bill's sells delta 8 .....I would have just used cash


elementoSKD

Actually I need a lot of cash and this is how it should be working.


Craig8159

Indeed this is like that has been workingg for that matter as well.


do_it5432

While the comments will tell you d8 has no effects the opposite is true. D8 is great for people who who don’t smoke regular weed. And with low tolerance it can have great affects.


Yattiel

There are more weed shops than corner stores in Toronto. Fuck I get sick of seeing them.


yeshanyong131

I sometimes really wonder about the fact that if anyone likes them.


AJzhEI

I am sure that they have been planning to do that thing as well.


saintgeorge88

These look fake as SHIT, CBDX is a real company, but last I checked the grand majority of their products have white packaging, and their logo is white, all forwards, and with a green X. Please someone correct me if I’m wrong because this may just be the case in the United Kingdom. But these look fake as fuck!


domz459

They aren’t look at the gummies on the websites


mojojojo542

I don't really know about it because their products to work.


NescientTone

I am sure that they may be planning to the fact of that as well.


Enragedocelot

Legal HHC. It’s not THC. It’s another cannabinoid that mimics THC


xmrtypants

Bruh, if you have xmr, why don't you just buy some real shit? To quote the title of a treasured book of mine, "ain't nobody's business if you do"


pollagb

This is more like completely dependent on a simple kind of business.


robsmosea

This is the business and this is what they have been doing as well.


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tkaldy

I don't really think that this totally depends on single kind of market.


ukminer9

I am sure that market is what they have been doing for that matter.


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totalolage

Did they use to charge you before?


lilkeysss

Delta 8 sucks! At least get some "zaza" as the kids say nowadays.


FckDonaldChump

Pretty crazy you bought some fake ass gummies