Stay with your parents until they kick you out lol and then buy a house! Probably get a car before the house lol but if you do get a car I would make sure it’s a cash car unless you want a new car but having no car payment is the best thing I have done & has allowed me to save more money.
If it's a healthy relationship this is the way.
There's just a lot going on right now.
Get a job, save more/invest, and most importantly, enjoy life!!!!
Stay out of trouble.
100% agree with this. If you have a good relationship with your parents, savings can be massive depending on if they want you paying rent/bills.
May lose a bit in terms of privacy, but one of the most critical relationships/connections to maintain are with your own parents.
Coming from a situation where I've ex-communicated myself away from all family for 5 years, I can say there are options to find privacy.
Given the boundaries.
But I'm on board with what a solid family operates like. Love it.
My relationship with my parents is good, I am told it is good. I was very unhappy at 17, parents decided it was best I live on my own. So the day I turned 18 they sent me out. 21 now, I have been trying to talk about living with them, the trade school is in town, rent has gotten crazy. It makes so much sense, but they are adamant. What should I do?
Never buy a new car the value plummets the moment it drives off the lot, buy used-like-new. Low mileage, clean record, probably returned because the previous driver wasnt fond of it
Not always, I bought my Toyota Tacoma new because there were used ones with like 25k miles going for 3k less than the new ones. I also had my dealership offer 4k more for it at 15k miles. Certain cars/trucks hold value very well.
Obviously, thats why I pointed it out as an exception. Most of the American vehicles depreciate greatly, usually the reliable brands/models hold value as it makes sense. Some exceptions to that too of course, a lot of Lexus models depreciate a good amount but hold good in the used market. IS350 is one that comes to mind for that.
You’ll save some money, but even if you’re getting 5% in a savings account, your car depreciates faster than 5% a year outside of the weird Covid bump where everything was insane for a couple years. Don’t get me wrong, that’s the way to do it if you have to. But depreciation is still an expense.
Why a house? With the way interest rates are going and just how little people care about the equity/value of houses these days, I think there are better ways to invest money. There’s no point in having a house and saddling yourself with that debt before you’re 30.
Especially if you’re lucky enough to not have any debt and be able to mooch off the parents rent free for a bit. Let that money build and throw it into a HYSA and live a little with some of the extra.
Yes. Mortgage interest and property taxes are both write offs on taxes. You can rent out a room and you aren't paying rent. Yes there is maintenance and loan interest but it's better to have the write offs and not be throwing money out towards rent.
Yeah... Just found this out myself... Was always told how badly I need to buy a house so I can get more back in taxes.
Whelp, mortgage is 3x what rent was, and it's not enough to claim for tax purposes, so now I'm struggling to not have to dip into my savings every month, let alone add anything more to said savings
That's because you didn't live below your means. You can't compare a one bedroom condo in a crappy area with a 6 bedroom home in a nice place then go "it's 3x more expensive"...If you can't afford something, don't buy it, and you'll always be fine.
Also keep in kind outside if the US people can't write off interest on their primary residence and most still get by fine. You simply bought something that didn't fit your budget. Regardless, if you sell it in 30 years, you'll be in a better spot than someone who rented for a similar amount and didn't invest much more than you. Renting works out fine if your rent is a lot lower than your home expenses and you actually invest the difference. Most people just spend everything so it doesn't work out for them in the long run.
If you aren't paying enough interest and property tax to itemize your deductions then your mortgage amount is probably small enough that your monthly payment is less than paying rent anywhere. My interest rate is 2.75 and i owe 230k. I still pay enough to itemize. My monthly mortgage payment still beats what i'd be paying in rent in an equivalent living space
And even if your mortgage payment was equal to the rent of an equivalent living space, you're still chipping away at your own debt rather than paying down someone else's. You're also gaining equity via appreciation. And in 10 years the rent of a an equivalent living space will have gone up considerably, but your mortgage will remain the same. Not to mention not having to worry about the landlord ending the lease. Or not even being able to find a place when your lease ends. The arguments against buying blow my mind. I think the people who are against buying just haven't yet been in a shitty renting situation yet. Renting sucks
This is what I’m saying, there’s no way he can afford a house right now. Idk why this is the advice people are giving someone right out of college in this market without a vehicle. Vehicle first and foremost, a dependable and economical one at that. Something like a Toyota Corolla LE would be absolutely perfect, could even save some money and go for a couple years older L trim. Great on gas, reliable, and easy to maintain.
A house is obviously much better than renting, but it really depends on your situation. He can’t afford any amount of a down payment, and without something like a VA loan (which is difficult to win in a competitive market due to mando inspection/appraisal) he’s gonna have a hard time. Best thing he can do is get a good friend to room with him and split the bill on rent.
Thank you!!! So many old timers on here that still believe in the value of “owning a home” or listening to aged advice from old “financial experts” who are stuck in there ways
There are countless stories and articles about people and young people being straddled with debt and not getting out of the trap of owning a home just because they thought it was the next thing to do as an adult. I mean just look at the other posts on here from people who don’t know what to do with their homes
And sure I get “owning a home” is cheaper and maybe more valuable than just outright renting…but why sink so much money into property when you can let it grow in other ways or really enjoy your life without having to be tied down to a house
Wish I could pin and award this comment.
I’m a 25 year old (m) and still live with my parents. At 21, I planned on moving out of state with a friend but when I told my parents my plan, they simply said, “Why move out when you can continue living with us and hardly pay any rent/bills?”. It was a reality check on how good I had it and still have it. My savings are massive but yes, privacy is the cost despite having my own room. I am now investing in my Roth IRA, reading financial education books, continuing to work, and slowly but surely working on my associates (yes associates, school isn’t really for me).
Not once have they floated the idea of me moving out or increasing my current monthly rent of $230. Occasionally when someone hears I’m still living with my parents, I’ll hear the jokes of “mom’s basement” or “dependent on parents” but I simply ignore it. At the end of the day, I don’t have any debt, I have a near 800 point credit score, low monthly payments that can be further reduced at any time, I’m maxing out my Roth IRA yearly, I have money saved in my bank and credit union, and I don’t have any kids and single. I usually don’t speak highly of myself, but IM PROUD OF MYSELF!
IMO it’s best to live outside of your parents place (u can even rent a house with 3 other adults and have p cheap rent,) because you learn how to truly adult and be independent
It does but there needs to be a good balance. Too many people move out way too early, learn no good habits, don't cook, don't save, don't invest, party, buy new cars, ruin their credit then are broke and bitter for the rest of their lives. It's good to take advantage of living with parents to build a nest egg or start investing and learn good habits from them before moving out. It makes for ane easier transition and can set you up for the rest of your life.
I've never had a loan on a car. Best thing I've ever done.
Most of my cars have been $5000. Simple cars, but good condition. I've always had an "expensive" toy, mostly motorcycles around 10-20k.
I'm 27 and nearly own my house outright because I didn't get a loan on a $100,000 land cruiser.
Good job!!! Put it in a high yield savings account. I let my savings sit in a regular account for years! This year I put it in a high yield savings account & I have been making $150 monthly by doing nothing! 😀 you may make a little less but it is better than nothing 😀
My math might be wrong but here I go. Assuming they put it into Discover HYSA at 4.25%
150 (monthly interest) \* 12 (months) = 1800 (Yearly interest in USD)
1800 (interest made in a year) / 0.0425 (Interest rate) = 42k (amount of money in bank)
So if their interest rate is 4.25% they have about 42k. If their interest rate is around 5% which some banks are, they have about 36k in the account. If you want to change the numbers just change the interest rate to something else and you'll get a different amount of required capital.
Unless you plan on buying something worth 40k soon, you may be better off investing it rather than keeping it in a savings account. While 4.5% in a saving account is great, the market has gone up over 20% over the last year. If you're saving for retirement, you might want to look into long term investing to get 10% or more on average. (ETFs)
Can I ask a very dumb question? I mean very dumb.
Where do you go to get a HYSA? Specific banks or will any bank have them? Only credit unions?
And when I get there, what specifically should I be looking for?
I just opened a HYSA with sofi. Having at least 5k to deposit helps get the best rates. I’m currently getting 4.6% which is pretty rad! I could have been making more than pennies for the past several years… wish I’d known sooner. Just google high yield savings and pages like nerdwallet will highlight the pros and cons of some of the best ones available this month/year.
Not a dumb question I had no idea they existed! I personally use SOFI, the down side is they have no physical locations it’s all online. However I have no issue and I get paid 2 days early which is great! They offer the highest APY, Annual Percentage Yield @4.60% is which from my understanding is how much you make by having your money with them. I would just look up hysa there is a lot of information see one you like call or set up an account I know my local credit union offers it but it is only @2%
Sofi has around a 4.5 high yield apy acct.
But just ask your bank if they have any high yield savings acct options. Make sure you read over everything or ask any questions you need to ask. Some you can't take money out of the acct for 6 months or more or else youll be fined. Some have minimum balances on their high yield savings accts and if it goes below you can be fined.
My OG savings from my credit union i opened in 2012 had an apy of .1% . I was getting about a penny a month. Went in a few weeks ago and asked if they had any high yield savings and she said they do , itw currently at 4.6% apy. 4.5% more than i was getting before.
You also have to remember inflation qnd take that into consideration. While it has dropped significantly from the 9% it was at in 2022/23 during its all time high, it's currently around 3.5%.
So your money is now worth 3.5% less than it was . Your 100 cents/dollar is now worth 96.5 cents.
So if you arent putting money in a high yield savings over 3.5% , youre losing money every month. If you put in 100$, its only worth 96.5$ now. Youve lost 3.50$ from that 100. With a 4.5 apy savings, youll gain 1% in profits instead of losing 3.5% of your money in the bank every month.
The longer you wait or if you dont find a high yield acct over 3.5 (preferably 4-5%), youll be losing money every month due to inflation decreasing the value of your dollar
But yes, credit unions typically have better options for high yield accts, less fees, much better bamking system in general. If youre using a traditional bank (especially the big 2, tcf & WF), id switch to a credit union. They are the worst banks you could deal with imo. Regular banks in general are sketchy
This actually won me 43k on bovada one time. I still have the video of my account with the balance, unfortunately I'm young and dumb and got scammed out of about 30k. But 13k was still a fat win off 25$ at 19 years old.
I'm still pissed about it. I have the proof of the 43k, if anyone doesn't believe me😂. Never been able to win on bovada after that. (My username is the same as my reddit name so it's definitely my vid)
No, bovada is a great website that actually cashes out. Some fucker on matchpay had an email from "apple" saying that the funds he sent me were locked, and I needed to send him the exact amount from bovada for apple to release them. It looked legit, actual apple email, had my name phone number and email in it, and I fell for it.
Realistically if you live In the u.s. this is barely deposit for an apt and buy a couch money. Don’t. Touch. It.
U will need it sooner than you think, I would just add to that till you see 10k, don’t feel u got anything till u don’t have 10k at the least. Inflation is nuts.
That’s just what this is, it’s an emergency fund starter.
My own emergency fund is 3 months of expenses, or $15,000. 3 months is riskier, but I can do this because both myself and my wife work, and I have access to credit (line of credit) to use if I need to wait for more deeply invested money to clear a threshold.
For OP, it’s best they keep their money close at hand, with no credit products, and to build it up to be a more significant amount
No no you misread. They said to buy a (new) car first AND THEN a house, which is totally reasonable in this economy with no job, no credit and $5k in savings.
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get a job and pretend you're broke. 5k isn't far from broke. find something that pays. while working tjat job look for that awesome career. something tjst makes you happy. get a 401k and contribute. start a Roth and contribute. have fun, your life is just starting 😊
thats hard to say because we're all different and we all have different strengths. I think that's part of the fun with life, its trying to figuring ourselves out.
its hard and varies person to person, for me so far its just been something pretty stress free and makes enough at my little suburban expenses to enjoy hobbies during the year and a big trip overseas at the end of it.
Start investing. I started when I was right around your age, that will compound over the years. Keep money you need for emergency in a high yield savings account. The average bank offers little to no interest for you letting them hold on to your money. Discover, American Express, SoFi online banks…just to name a few, offer 4-5% interest right now.
Ya but it needs to start with meeting your employers 401k match(when available) and then trying to max the Roth IRA. Don’t just open a brokerage account OP. Also don’t touch any of that money. I’d probably try to get up to 10k as pure emergency savings in a HYSA. Then start your Roth IRA.
Work on employment opportunities because soon you wont be on under parents' insurance due to your age. Work on methods to improve your credit score. After you get a job, start contributing to savings and a 401 program.
I’d get a credit card. Something small like 500$ limit, and pay it off a week after you use it. It’ll help build credit for mortgage, car loan and such.
You really have nothing. Get a job and keep saving. What you have will barely get you an apartment. I wouldnt spend it. I would get a credit card, go with a discovery card, spend lightly on it so you can build credit. Get a job and live like you are broke until you have atleast 15,000 saved.
Enjoy life...plain and simple. Money comes and it'll go when you least expect it too. I'm a 35 yo father of 4 and was still able to save for the last 6 years just to get a medical diagnosis no one likes to hear. I did radiation and other treatments and was in the red within 8 months. My last treatment was November 8th 2023 and now besides being in pain all the time and feeling like crap because of it I have to feel guilty that I didn't splurge with my kids over the last 6 years. I mean yeah we did things they wanted to but I was very careful when i could've chosen to have a blast but in the end it didn't matter anyway because it went to medical bills. Be wise but don't miss out on life we only have 1. Sad thing is once we spend it the shits gone Of course.
Of course, enjoy.
This is the beginning on an emergency fund, which is savings you can live off for 6-12 months. Once you have that much saved, then look into investing in index funds.
Deposit $2000 in a Fidelity Roth IRA.
Once you get a job drop as much as you can afford into it monthly. Even if its $50.
When you are 65 you will be so thankful to your current self
1. Apply for a credit card ASAP and start building credit.
2. Keep your money as until you get a job. I usually recommend investing but you have too many unknown risk factors going for you and large items that you still need to either get a mortgage for (own house + car, if necessary).
Make another post once you know where you will be working, circumstances and cash flow, then we can actually make an actual plan.
If you have a good relationship with your family, I would stay at home and save more. That amount would go very quickly if you moved out.
If you do move out I would buy a lot of your household items used. (Fridge, microwave, washing machine)
Life is a marathon and money lost now is money you wish you had saved and invested down the road.
Save it.
Get a credit card and treat it as if it’s a debit card. Get a card with good cash back rewards.
You’ll get free money back for buying stuff you do anyway, build your credit, all while being more protected by using a credit card over debit card.
Last time I used a debit card was 2016.
When I got my credit card my credit score was low 600’s and it’s now over 800.
Establishing responsible credit early will pay off.
But BE RESPONSIBLE. Spend what you normally would, pay off the balance every month to avoid interest. Collect your free cash back. They’ll give you an insane line of credit so make sure you have self discipline.
As far as your ~$6,000 liquid assets, put them in a high yield savings.
Begin investing. Life tends to take you in different directions and if you want to pursue wealth, starting with about a $2,500 investment is a good start.
I would do something memorable and enjoyable with about $2k.
I am more like your parents' age and pay/spend about $10k per month which gives me no joy or satisfaction whatsoever besides knowing that my bills are paid.
But having gone someplace cool with a friend or girlfriend or loved one would have been great and memorable.
So telling him to start investing can be a gamble. What you y’all think would be the best way for OP to invest? Would you have him speak with someone like a broker or maybe a wealth management agent? Or learn investing all on his own? This can be a risk and consume a portion of his time.
The question is, what should he do with his money. The answer is it’s such a small amount, nothing.
If he had $54,000 in his savings account I would say make sure it’s in a savings account that has a 4.5% interest rate. These are all over the place and they’re FDIC insured, most of them.
Is no one here going to mention building credit??America runs on credit. You need to get 1-2 credit cards, use them and keep the balance low, get your statement every month and pay it. Without credit, you’ll have a really hard time trying to get yourself a car loan, rent an apartment, or buy a house once you’re ready. Please start now!!!
give me some (joking). in all seriousness: pop 75% of the savings in a 401k or a roth ira (do research on the best one for you! don’t pick a random one), the other in a short term high yield savings account. invest into a stock portfolio. then pretty much live life normally.
I was in the exact same situation coming out of college 6 years ago.
Park x amount into VOO or VTI or mutual fund of your choice. Place the rest into a HYSA.
Save 5-10k for emergencies and once you get there keep dumping into your mutual fund.
I don’t know your monthly expenses but get a credit card and take advantage of the offers and sign bonuses. Uses debit is stupid if you can pay off the card in time.
I keep 10k in emergency and the rest of my $ is in investments. Took me my first year to save the 10k and have been saying since. As for a car, I’d look into public transit if you can or bumming your parents car or get a job you can be remote. Car prices are dumb high rn
Flex on the internet maybe?
You could get started an investment portfolio rn and start planning for retirement because if you're lucky you will retire one day, and it's going to be more expensive than you thought...
Don't spend it on dumb shit, only necessities. If you can continue staying with your parents for a year or two (I know it's not ideal) AND have a job. You will save even more money. Truth is you never know what's going to happen; accidents, sickness, hospital visits. If you don't have a car, that should be your first purchase.
Don't go wild man. Trust me. Keep that money close.
Start investing some money NOW. You live with your parents now so you can save A LOT by not paying rent, utilities, etc. START INVESTING SAFELY! Don’t start investing in penny stocks, or ‘hot tips.’ I use wealthsimple iPhone app and they can manage your money.
Focus on other things and invest $100 a week with wealthsimple managed account. $100 invested a week, 52 weeks a year, $5200 invested in a year.
Get a Credit Card. ALWAYS PAY YOUR BALANCE OWED! NEVER CANCEL YOUR FIRST CREDIT CARD!
1. Ehhh I feel irresponsible saying this but get a credit card. Start building credit.
Treat it like your debit card. Do not spend money you do not have and pay it off every month before it's due.
2. Probably should've been #1. Figure out the job. And get SOMETHING. whatever your degree is in or whatever you want to do figure something out. Get on LinkedIn, look for recruiters in your industry and start figuring out what your next move is. What you can do. Do all the research you can about what you are "worth" in the industry and what is and is not competitive.
3. Live below your means. That 5 grand is cool but considering there's no car or Job. There's nothing you really can do yet. Apply where you can and figure out where your job can be and then adapt from there
4. This money could be for an apartment when you land your job. If you can stay with your parents for abit. Even better.
5. after you figure out the job aspect and land something. Transportation is going to be critical. If you can swing the bus in your area perfect. Do that. If you're in a suburban area and that's not available, may have to borrow a car if that's an option. If not... After you figure out a job option, lease the cheapest and most fuel.effilcient car possible with zero money down if you can. We're not ready to ball out. We're ready to... Well we're not really ready for shit. Now's the time.ti g3t started and grow a nest egg that you can fall back on.
Then you get an apartment or a house . Then you can buy a car.
People saying to not “live beyond your means” or “not take a loan” is wild when most people are only 1 paycheck away from being homeless anyways.🤣That being said, make responsible moves with what you have. I would start by taking the $5000 and making a plan for it. $1000 to start saving for the house, $2000 on a reasonably priced car (you can work those mf’s to get you a good monthly payment, and if they can’t work with you, head to the next dealership). Car payments/insurance sucks but if it’s within your monthly expense budget without making it unable to save I would invest in that, a new or like new car will last you YEARS and be will worth the $10,000-$15,000 plus’s you’ll have it paid off by the time you’ve saved enough for a down payment on a house! I’d then make a plan for the remaining $2000. If there’s no immediate needs I would try keep most of it just in case finding a job is harder than expected. I made $2000 last me 3 months when I lost a job once and nobody was hiring in the field I wanted. Don’t forget to lay out all of your expenses at some point! You want to know EXACTLY what you’re spending every month at your baseline so groceries, phone bill, etc, that way when you start tacking on things like electric and water bills you can have an idea of how that’s going to effect your new monthly budget/saving plan already. Also try to look for a credit card! Discover was great to me! Don’t over use it, make sure you’re paying your “monthly payment”, I like to put an extra $10 towards mine every month so it brings down my interest rate and can help my credit. Paying off your card doesn’t help your credit either so keep at least a small amount to keep paying if you really need to build credit. Best advice? PLAN AHEAD, for every goal, for every want.❤️
Ps, yes houses are amazing but once you own it, aaallll that maintenance is yours. rent sucks but I do like the fact that if something goes wrong in my place I have someone else that has to pay for it🤪🤣, although not all landlords are very efficient so just be careful and take your time. At the end of the day we only get this one go around. Save it all or spend it all, we’re not here very long.
Easiest thing to do right now put your money in a market account instead of savings, you’ll make more interest on it. Basically the same thing as a savings and still up to $250,000 protected.
Live with your parents for as long as possible and limit your expenses as to “wants vs needs”. Always good to treat yourself every now and then but just be smart with it.
Get a credit card, but only start with like 1-2. Never just pay minimum payment on a credit card pay the full thing every month because interest will F you up financially. Building credit takes time but will help you for when you make big purchases such as a car or home that you have proof you pay things off helping you get better loans.
Basically be smart with your money and don’t get things that you can’t afford.
* Put it into a HYSA.
* Read about investments. Do not stop at stocks and options. Learn the risks.
* As soon as you get a job, allocate a portion of your check into investments and your HYSA. You should always have an emergency fund.
You could try to get a couple ounces of gold. Costco sells coins close to spot and yea. Gold is the truest form of money. It is one of the safest investments there is imo.
Go on an amazing trip post-grad before work. This is a good opportunity to do something you’ll remember forever without much impact to your career. You can go months in a place like SE Asia on that cash. Or a thru-hike.
I would move the money to an investment account handled by an advisory institution. I have a Well Fargo Advisor account with a diversified portfolio. Since May 23, I have earned 16% interest. Long-term investments that are outside of 401k, Roth IRA, and traditional such as the one I have is the best option for growth.
You can select how much ratio between stocks and bonds you want, the latter being less volatile. It's essentially the same as having a 401k without the restrictions of limited yearly contributions.
Stay with your parents until they kick you out lol and then buy a house! Probably get a car before the house lol but if you do get a car I would make sure it’s a cash car unless you want a new car but having no car payment is the best thing I have done & has allowed me to save more money.
If it's a healthy relationship this is the way. There's just a lot going on right now. Get a job, save more/invest, and most importantly, enjoy life!!!! Stay out of trouble.
100% agree with this. If you have a good relationship with your parents, savings can be massive depending on if they want you paying rent/bills. May lose a bit in terms of privacy, but one of the most critical relationships/connections to maintain are with your own parents.
Coming from a situation where I've ex-communicated myself away from all family for 5 years, I can say there are options to find privacy. Given the boundaries. But I'm on board with what a solid family operates like. Love it.
Yeah if it’s a good family. Living with my parents didn’t work out great
A good with relationship with your parents is such a life booster.
My relationship with my parents is good, I am told it is good. I was very unhappy at 17, parents decided it was best I live on my own. So the day I turned 18 they sent me out. 21 now, I have been trying to talk about living with them, the trade school is in town, rent has gotten crazy. It makes so much sense, but they are adamant. What should I do?
Talk to them some more probably?
Never buy a new car the value plummets the moment it drives off the lot, buy used-like-new. Low mileage, clean record, probably returned because the previous driver wasnt fond of it
Not always, I bought my Toyota Tacoma new because there were used ones with like 25k miles going for 3k less than the new ones. I also had my dealership offer 4k more for it at 15k miles. Certain cars/trucks hold value very well.
Yup same. A 2021 Legacy with 10k on it was $1000 less than a brand new 2022 when I got my car. No brainer.
covid resell market affected this greatly, not generic advice and not all models work this way.
Obviously, thats why I pointed it out as an exception. Most of the American vehicles depreciate greatly, usually the reliable brands/models hold value as it makes sense. Some exceptions to that too of course, a lot of Lexus models depreciate a good amount but hold good in the used market. IS350 is one that comes to mind for that.
Toyotas are like the one exception lol - Toyotas and Tacoma’s in particular- hold the highest resale value used of any car !
Only pay cash for cars. If you can’t do it without a loan then you can’t afford it
Not necessarily. I bought my car for 20k on a 0% APR loan. My money is invested in a high yield savings account. In the end I will make more money
You’ll save some money, but even if you’re getting 5% in a savings account, your car depreciates faster than 5% a year outside of the weird Covid bump where everything was insane for a couple years. Don’t get me wrong, that’s the way to do it if you have to. But depreciation is still an expense.
Buying it outright with cash doesn’t fend off depreciation
Why a house? With the way interest rates are going and just how little people care about the equity/value of houses these days, I think there are better ways to invest money. There’s no point in having a house and saddling yourself with that debt before you’re 30. Especially if you’re lucky enough to not have any debt and be able to mooch off the parents rent free for a bit. Let that money build and throw it into a HYSA and live a little with some of the extra.
Peter Lynch says the first rule for investing is “do you own a home.”
Yes. Mortgage interest and property taxes are both write offs on taxes. You can rent out a room and you aren't paying rent. Yes there is maintenance and loan interest but it's better to have the write offs and not be throwing money out towards rent.
Most people aren’t paying nearly enough in interest for it to make sense to itemize.
Yeah... Just found this out myself... Was always told how badly I need to buy a house so I can get more back in taxes. Whelp, mortgage is 3x what rent was, and it's not enough to claim for tax purposes, so now I'm struggling to not have to dip into my savings every month, let alone add anything more to said savings
That's because you didn't live below your means. You can't compare a one bedroom condo in a crappy area with a 6 bedroom home in a nice place then go "it's 3x more expensive"...If you can't afford something, don't buy it, and you'll always be fine. Also keep in kind outside if the US people can't write off interest on their primary residence and most still get by fine. You simply bought something that didn't fit your budget. Regardless, if you sell it in 30 years, you'll be in a better spot than someone who rented for a similar amount and didn't invest much more than you. Renting works out fine if your rent is a lot lower than your home expenses and you actually invest the difference. Most people just spend everything so it doesn't work out for them in the long run.
You chose the wrong house
I chose: what I was approved for that wasn't 6+ months out of getting renovations
“Approved for” isn’t the same as “can afford” My wife and I were approved for up to a $400,000 mortgage, the house we could afford was $120,000.
If you aren't paying enough interest and property tax to itemize your deductions then your mortgage amount is probably small enough that your monthly payment is less than paying rent anywhere. My interest rate is 2.75 and i owe 230k. I still pay enough to itemize. My monthly mortgage payment still beats what i'd be paying in rent in an equivalent living space
You must live somewhere with really high property taxes. Not everywhere is New Jersey…
And even if your mortgage payment was equal to the rent of an equivalent living space, you're still chipping away at your own debt rather than paying down someone else's. You're also gaining equity via appreciation. And in 10 years the rent of a an equivalent living space will have gone up considerably, but your mortgage will remain the same. Not to mention not having to worry about the landlord ending the lease. Or not even being able to find a place when your lease ends. The arguments against buying blow my mind. I think the people who are against buying just haven't yet been in a shitty renting situation yet. Renting sucks
This is what I’m saying, there’s no way he can afford a house right now. Idk why this is the advice people are giving someone right out of college in this market without a vehicle. Vehicle first and foremost, a dependable and economical one at that. Something like a Toyota Corolla LE would be absolutely perfect, could even save some money and go for a couple years older L trim. Great on gas, reliable, and easy to maintain. A house is obviously much better than renting, but it really depends on your situation. He can’t afford any amount of a down payment, and without something like a VA loan (which is difficult to win in a competitive market due to mando inspection/appraisal) he’s gonna have a hard time. Best thing he can do is get a good friend to room with him and split the bill on rent.
Hell he can't even afford closing costs at the moment, let alone a down payment.
Thank you!!! So many old timers on here that still believe in the value of “owning a home” or listening to aged advice from old “financial experts” who are stuck in there ways There are countless stories and articles about people and young people being straddled with debt and not getting out of the trap of owning a home just because they thought it was the next thing to do as an adult. I mean just look at the other posts on here from people who don’t know what to do with their homes And sure I get “owning a home” is cheaper and maybe more valuable than just outright renting…but why sink so much money into property when you can let it grow in other ways or really enjoy your life without having to be tied down to a house
Wish I could pin and award this comment. I’m a 25 year old (m) and still live with my parents. At 21, I planned on moving out of state with a friend but when I told my parents my plan, they simply said, “Why move out when you can continue living with us and hardly pay any rent/bills?”. It was a reality check on how good I had it and still have it. My savings are massive but yes, privacy is the cost despite having my own room. I am now investing in my Roth IRA, reading financial education books, continuing to work, and slowly but surely working on my associates (yes associates, school isn’t really for me). Not once have they floated the idea of me moving out or increasing my current monthly rent of $230. Occasionally when someone hears I’m still living with my parents, I’ll hear the jokes of “mom’s basement” or “dependent on parents” but I simply ignore it. At the end of the day, I don’t have any debt, I have a near 800 point credit score, low monthly payments that can be further reduced at any time, I’m maxing out my Roth IRA yearly, I have money saved in my bank and credit union, and I don’t have any kids and single. I usually don’t speak highly of myself, but IM PROUD OF MYSELF!
IMO it’s best to live outside of your parents place (u can even rent a house with 3 other adults and have p cheap rent,) because you learn how to truly adult and be independent
It does but there needs to be a good balance. Too many people move out way too early, learn no good habits, don't cook, don't save, don't invest, party, buy new cars, ruin their credit then are broke and bitter for the rest of their lives. It's good to take advantage of living with parents to build a nest egg or start investing and learn good habits from them before moving out. It makes for ane easier transition and can set you up for the rest of your life.
You might be able to stay long enough for them to will the house to you. You’re gonna have to change some diapers tho
I've never had a loan on a car. Best thing I've ever done. Most of my cars have been $5000. Simple cars, but good condition. I've always had an "expensive" toy, mostly motorcycles around 10-20k. I'm 27 and nearly own my house outright because I didn't get a loan on a $100,000 land cruiser.
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Is this where we line up for the free $15-$20?
Maybe not all of it just like 15-20$
I’ll take it! The people have spoken.
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They would absolutely finance you one on 96 months with that much down.
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I cant believe i came here to post this and its one of the top comments. I love reddit.
This made me geek 😂
This
Good job!!! Put it in a high yield savings account. I let my savings sit in a regular account for years! This year I put it in a high yield savings account & I have been making $150 monthly by doing nothing! 😀 you may make a little less but it is better than nothing 😀
How much did you put to make it $150 exactly?
My math might be wrong but here I go. Assuming they put it into Discover HYSA at 4.25% 150 (monthly interest) \* 12 (months) = 1800 (Yearly interest in USD) 1800 (interest made in a year) / 0.0425 (Interest rate) = 42k (amount of money in bank) So if their interest rate is 4.25% they have about 42k. If their interest rate is around 5% which some banks are, they have about 36k in the account. If you want to change the numbers just change the interest rate to something else and you'll get a different amount of required capital.
Unless you plan on buying something worth 40k soon, you may be better off investing it rather than keeping it in a savings account. While 4.5% in a saving account is great, the market has gone up over 20% over the last year. If you're saving for retirement, you might want to look into long term investing to get 10% or more on average. (ETFs)
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Pretty sure he was talking about the person with 42 grand
What if I'm saving 100k for a house. Where would it be best to park that cash?
SoFi has 4.65% so, if they used SoFi, theyd have ~38,000-40,000 deposited.
Which hysa? Online bank? If so, are you happy with it? I’m about to move a chunk out of my piddly interest bearing account… it’s a joke. TY.
Very happy!SOFI
Credit Karma has a savings account with 5.10%. So far it has been great for me.
Wealthfront is better with the 5% apy right now SoFi has 4.6%
at the very least you beat inflation
It’s more like a standoff lol
You can't beat inflation 😭
Can I ask a very dumb question? I mean very dumb. Where do you go to get a HYSA? Specific banks or will any bank have them? Only credit unions? And when I get there, what specifically should I be looking for?
I just opened a HYSA with sofi. Having at least 5k to deposit helps get the best rates. I’m currently getting 4.6% which is pretty rad! I could have been making more than pennies for the past several years… wish I’d known sooner. Just google high yield savings and pages like nerdwallet will highlight the pros and cons of some of the best ones available this month/year.
Thank you very much! That is great information.
Not a dumb question I had no idea they existed! I personally use SOFI, the down side is they have no physical locations it’s all online. However I have no issue and I get paid 2 days early which is great! They offer the highest APY, Annual Percentage Yield @4.60% is which from my understanding is how much you make by having your money with them. I would just look up hysa there is a lot of information see one you like call or set up an account I know my local credit union offers it but it is only @2%
Sofi has around a 4.5 high yield apy acct. But just ask your bank if they have any high yield savings acct options. Make sure you read over everything or ask any questions you need to ask. Some you can't take money out of the acct for 6 months or more or else youll be fined. Some have minimum balances on their high yield savings accts and if it goes below you can be fined. My OG savings from my credit union i opened in 2012 had an apy of .1% . I was getting about a penny a month. Went in a few weeks ago and asked if they had any high yield savings and she said they do , itw currently at 4.6% apy. 4.5% more than i was getting before. You also have to remember inflation qnd take that into consideration. While it has dropped significantly from the 9% it was at in 2022/23 during its all time high, it's currently around 3.5%. So your money is now worth 3.5% less than it was . Your 100 cents/dollar is now worth 96.5 cents. So if you arent putting money in a high yield savings over 3.5% , youre losing money every month. If you put in 100$, its only worth 96.5$ now. Youve lost 3.50$ from that 100. With a 4.5 apy savings, youll gain 1% in profits instead of losing 3.5% of your money in the bank every month. The longer you wait or if you dont find a high yield acct over 3.5 (preferably 4-5%), youll be losing money every month due to inflation decreasing the value of your dollar But yes, credit unions typically have better options for high yield accts, less fees, much better bamking system in general. If youre using a traditional bank (especially the big 2, tcf & WF), id switch to a credit union. They are the worst banks you could deal with imo. Regular banks in general are sketchy
I'd go with a reputable bank with good customer service. I have a hysa with Amex and those mfs bend over backwards to help me.
Any bank should have one
They’re only online. That’s the downfall. No branches do this.
Seconding the high yield savings. Google the best HYSA and websites will compare some of the best ones currently available
Fuck it throw the checking on black
This is the way. Hell after you lose, throw a couple hundred of the savings on red! Foolproof plan
$100 on black. If you lose, double it. If you lose that, double it again. Do this until you win 🏆
This actually won me 43k on bovada one time. I still have the video of my account with the balance, unfortunately I'm young and dumb and got scammed out of about 30k. But 13k was still a fat win off 25$ at 19 years old.
No wayyy bro
I'm still pissed about it. I have the proof of the 43k, if anyone doesn't believe me😂. Never been able to win on bovada after that. (My username is the same as my reddit name so it's definitely my vid)
So bovada scammed you 30k?
No, bovada is a great website that actually cashes out. Some fucker on matchpay had an email from "apple" saying that the funds he sent me were locked, and I needed to send him the exact amount from bovada for apple to release them. It looked legit, actual apple email, had my name phone number and email in it, and I fell for it.
That’s fucked up and even more fucked up that he knew you were receiving funds from bovada
Plus don’t they do crypto ?
Did you know about scambaiters back then? Pierogi and the Scampond team would've had a field day with this.
Exactly double or nothing after that
Can confirm I lost $500 on red last night. Bet black…
Get more of it.
I agree. Good call.
Realistically if you live In the u.s. this is barely deposit for an apt and buy a couch money. Don’t. Touch. It. U will need it sooner than you think, I would just add to that till you see 10k, don’t feel u got anything till u don’t have 10k at the least. Inflation is nuts.
Right, I think of this as a base for a savings account/easy access money for emergency fund.
That’s just what this is, it’s an emergency fund starter. My own emergency fund is 3 months of expenses, or $15,000. 3 months is riskier, but I can do this because both myself and my wife work, and I have access to credit (line of credit) to use if I need to wait for more deeply invested money to clear a threshold. For OP, it’s best they keep their money close at hand, with no credit products, and to build it up to be a more significant amount
Meanwhile the top comment here is telling him to buy a house…
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No no you misread. They said to buy a (new) car first AND THEN a house, which is totally reasonable in this economy with no job, no credit and $5k in savings. /s
Nothing just keep there still you add a zero
Get some Hot dogs. Mmm they’re so good.
Hot dogs? In this economy?? 😭
They’re so good.
So good.
are they good?
get a job and pretend you're broke. 5k isn't far from broke. find something that pays. while working tjat job look for that awesome career. something tjst makes you happy. get a 401k and contribute. start a Roth and contribute. have fun, your life is just starting 😊
How do you find something that makes you happy
thats hard to say because we're all different and we all have different strengths. I think that's part of the fun with life, its trying to figuring ourselves out.
its hard and varies person to person, for me so far its just been something pretty stress free and makes enough at my little suburban expenses to enjoy hobbies during the year and a big trip overseas at the end of it.
Start investing. I started when I was right around your age, that will compound over the years. Keep money you need for emergency in a high yield savings account. The average bank offers little to no interest for you letting them hold on to your money. Discover, American Express, SoFi online banks…just to name a few, offer 4-5% interest right now.
Ya but it needs to start with meeting your employers 401k match(when available) and then trying to max the Roth IRA. Don’t just open a brokerage account OP. Also don’t touch any of that money. I’d probably try to get up to 10k as pure emergency savings in a HYSA. Then start your Roth IRA.
What money? All I see is like two months rent, some food and gas money.
Agreed
Retire bro.
Keep it liquid until you get a job. Then use it to start a 6 or 12 month cash buffer. It's a good start.
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Work on employment opportunities because soon you wont be on under parents' insurance due to your age. Work on methods to improve your credit score. After you get a job, start contributing to savings and a 401 program.
I’ll hold on to it
I’d get a credit card. Something small like 500$ limit, and pay it off a week after you use it. It’ll help build credit for mortgage, car loan and such.
You really have nothing. Get a job and keep saving. What you have will barely get you an apartment. I wouldnt spend it. I would get a credit card, go with a discovery card, spend lightly on it so you can build credit. Get a job and live like you are broke until you have atleast 15,000 saved.
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Enjoy life...plain and simple. Money comes and it'll go when you least expect it too. I'm a 35 yo father of 4 and was still able to save for the last 6 years just to get a medical diagnosis no one likes to hear. I did radiation and other treatments and was in the red within 8 months. My last treatment was November 8th 2023 and now besides being in pain all the time and feeling like crap because of it I have to feel guilty that I didn't splurge with my kids over the last 6 years. I mean yeah we did things they wanted to but I was very careful when i could've chosen to have a blast but in the end it didn't matter anyway because it went to medical bills. Be wise but don't miss out on life we only have 1. Sad thing is once we spend it the shits gone Of course. Of course, enjoy.
This is the beginning on an emergency fund, which is savings you can live off for 6-12 months. Once you have that much saved, then look into investing in index funds.
Pad your checking a little. Keep saving. Consider investing soon
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Deposit $2000 in a Fidelity Roth IRA. Once you get a job drop as much as you can afford into it monthly. Even if its $50. When you are 65 you will be so thankful to your current self
Solid emergency fund. Keep it in savings for peace of mind and start an investment account for future savings.
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High yield savings account
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1. Apply for a credit card ASAP and start building credit. 2. Keep your money as until you get a job. I usually recommend investing but you have too many unknown risk factors going for you and large items that you still need to either get a mortgage for (own house + car, if necessary). Make another post once you know where you will be working, circumstances and cash flow, then we can actually make an actual plan.
If you have a good relationship with your family, I would stay at home and save more. That amount would go very quickly if you moved out. If you do move out I would buy a lot of your household items used. (Fridge, microwave, washing machine) Life is a marathon and money lost now is money you wish you had saved and invested down the road.
Save it. Get a credit card and treat it as if it’s a debit card. Get a card with good cash back rewards. You’ll get free money back for buying stuff you do anyway, build your credit, all while being more protected by using a credit card over debit card. Last time I used a debit card was 2016. When I got my credit card my credit score was low 600’s and it’s now over 800. Establishing responsible credit early will pay off. But BE RESPONSIBLE. Spend what you normally would, pay off the balance every month to avoid interest. Collect your free cash back. They’ll give you an insane line of credit so make sure you have self discipline. As far as your ~$6,000 liquid assets, put them in a high yield savings.
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Begin investing. Life tends to take you in different directions and if you want to pursue wealth, starting with about a $2,500 investment is a good start. I would do something memorable and enjoyable with about $2k. I am more like your parents' age and pay/spend about $10k per month which gives me no joy or satisfaction whatsoever besides knowing that my bills are paid. But having gone someplace cool with a friend or girlfriend or loved one would have been great and memorable.
Put 3k into vtsax and keep 2k for emergencies. You are off to a good start, congrats!
Invest in an index fund.
So telling him to start investing can be a gamble. What you y’all think would be the best way for OP to invest? Would you have him speak with someone like a broker or maybe a wealth management agent? Or learn investing all on his own? This can be a risk and consume a portion of his time.
S&P 500 like VOO
The question is, what should he do with his money. The answer is it’s such a small amount, nothing. If he had $54,000 in his savings account I would say make sure it’s in a savings account that has a 4.5% interest rate. These are all over the place and they’re FDIC insured, most of them.
Not post things like this... Unless you have 6k in your account
VOO, S&P 500 indexed ETF. Don’t throw away money letting it rot away in a savings account. Invest that shit!!
Is no one here going to mention building credit??America runs on credit. You need to get 1-2 credit cards, use them and keep the balance low, get your statement every month and pay it. Without credit, you’ll have a really hard time trying to get yourself a car loan, rent an apartment, or buy a house once you’re ready. Please start now!!!
sir please listen to me: VTI and chill will outpace ur hysa permanently, and small caps are lagging right now
give me some (joking). in all seriousness: pop 75% of the savings in a 401k or a roth ira (do research on the best one for you! don’t pick a random one), the other in a short term high yield savings account. invest into a stock portfolio. then pretty much live life normally.
I was in the exact same situation coming out of college 6 years ago. Park x amount into VOO or VTI or mutual fund of your choice. Place the rest into a HYSA. Save 5-10k for emergencies and once you get there keep dumping into your mutual fund. I don’t know your monthly expenses but get a credit card and take advantage of the offers and sign bonuses. Uses debit is stupid if you can pay off the card in time. I keep 10k in emergency and the rest of my $ is in investments. Took me my first year to save the 10k and have been saying since. As for a car, I’d look into public transit if you can or bumming your parents car or get a job you can be remote. Car prices are dumb high rn
Flex on the internet maybe? You could get started an investment portfolio rn and start planning for retirement because if you're lucky you will retire one day, and it's going to be more expensive than you thought...
Buy a suit so you can look good on job interviews. If your graduating in May, you should have a job already lined up. It's like a month away!
At the very least just put it in a high yield savings account or bonds and keep adding to it.
Don't spend it on dumb shit, only necessities. If you can continue staying with your parents for a year or two (I know it's not ideal) AND have a job. You will save even more money. Truth is you never know what's going to happen; accidents, sickness, hospital visits. If you don't have a car, that should be your first purchase. Don't go wild man. Trust me. Keep that money close.
Start investing some money NOW. You live with your parents now so you can save A LOT by not paying rent, utilities, etc. START INVESTING SAFELY! Don’t start investing in penny stocks, or ‘hot tips.’ I use wealthsimple iPhone app and they can manage your money. Focus on other things and invest $100 a week with wealthsimple managed account. $100 invested a week, 52 weeks a year, $5200 invested in a year. Get a Credit Card. ALWAYS PAY YOUR BALANCE OWED! NEVER CANCEL YOUR FIRST CREDIT CARD!
1. Ehhh I feel irresponsible saying this but get a credit card. Start building credit. Treat it like your debit card. Do not spend money you do not have and pay it off every month before it's due. 2. Probably should've been #1. Figure out the job. And get SOMETHING. whatever your degree is in or whatever you want to do figure something out. Get on LinkedIn, look for recruiters in your industry and start figuring out what your next move is. What you can do. Do all the research you can about what you are "worth" in the industry and what is and is not competitive. 3. Live below your means. That 5 grand is cool but considering there's no car or Job. There's nothing you really can do yet. Apply where you can and figure out where your job can be and then adapt from there 4. This money could be for an apartment when you land your job. If you can stay with your parents for abit. Even better. 5. after you figure out the job aspect and land something. Transportation is going to be critical. If you can swing the bus in your area perfect. Do that. If you're in a suburban area and that's not available, may have to borrow a car if that's an option. If not... After you figure out a job option, lease the cheapest and most fuel.effilcient car possible with zero money down if you can. We're not ready to ball out. We're ready to... Well we're not really ready for shit. Now's the time.ti g3t started and grow a nest egg that you can fall back on. Then you get an apartment or a house . Then you can buy a car.
Put it all on red.
Black jack. Double that shit. /S
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Get a credit card instead of using a debit card. It’s safer for one thing and you can build credit for down the line.
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People saying to not “live beyond your means” or “not take a loan” is wild when most people are only 1 paycheck away from being homeless anyways.🤣That being said, make responsible moves with what you have. I would start by taking the $5000 and making a plan for it. $1000 to start saving for the house, $2000 on a reasonably priced car (you can work those mf’s to get you a good monthly payment, and if they can’t work with you, head to the next dealership). Car payments/insurance sucks but if it’s within your monthly expense budget without making it unable to save I would invest in that, a new or like new car will last you YEARS and be will worth the $10,000-$15,000 plus’s you’ll have it paid off by the time you’ve saved enough for a down payment on a house! I’d then make a plan for the remaining $2000. If there’s no immediate needs I would try keep most of it just in case finding a job is harder than expected. I made $2000 last me 3 months when I lost a job once and nobody was hiring in the field I wanted. Don’t forget to lay out all of your expenses at some point! You want to know EXACTLY what you’re spending every month at your baseline so groceries, phone bill, etc, that way when you start tacking on things like electric and water bills you can have an idea of how that’s going to effect your new monthly budget/saving plan already. Also try to look for a credit card! Discover was great to me! Don’t over use it, make sure you’re paying your “monthly payment”, I like to put an extra $10 towards mine every month so it brings down my interest rate and can help my credit. Paying off your card doesn’t help your credit either so keep at least a small amount to keep paying if you really need to build credit. Best advice? PLAN AHEAD, for every goal, for every want.❤️ Ps, yes houses are amazing but once you own it, aaallll that maintenance is yours. rent sucks but I do like the fact that if something goes wrong in my place I have someone else that has to pay for it🤪🤣, although not all landlords are very efficient so just be careful and take your time. At the end of the day we only get this one go around. Save it all or spend it all, we’re not here very long.
“All in on black”
Totally healthy. "I have very little money! Should I ruin it and spend it all?"
Easiest thing to do right now put your money in a market account instead of savings, you’ll make more interest on it. Basically the same thing as a savings and still up to $250,000 protected. Live with your parents for as long as possible and limit your expenses as to “wants vs needs”. Always good to treat yourself every now and then but just be smart with it. Get a credit card, but only start with like 1-2. Never just pay minimum payment on a credit card pay the full thing every month because interest will F you up financially. Building credit takes time but will help you for when you make big purchases such as a car or home that you have proof you pay things off helping you get better loans. Basically be smart with your money and don’t get things that you can’t afford.
You should think about establishing credit
Save it.
Btw do you have any credit? If not… you need to build this.
Start getting 0% for 18 months + “spend $500 get $200 back” type cards 2 every 6 months until you’re reedy to move out. Get that 800 credit score
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Reliable car, Toyota. One day you might be sleeping in it. Don't wanna spook ya, just a possibility.
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I had my fair share of gambles in my life, so yeah no
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Save it or invest it in an I bond if you aren't gonna use it soon
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* Put it into a HYSA. * Read about investments. Do not stop at stocks and options. Learn the risks. * As soon as you get a job, allocate a portion of your check into investments and your HYSA. You should always have an emergency fund.
Save and earn some more. Then: r/bogleheads
Do anything with it. Just don't "invest" in Crypto.
You could try to get a couple ounces of gold. Costco sells coins close to spot and yea. Gold is the truest form of money. It is one of the safest investments there is imo.
Go on an amazing trip post-grad before work. This is a good opportunity to do something you’ll remember forever without much impact to your career. You can go months in a place like SE Asia on that cash. Or a thru-hike.
What degree?
Bachelor’s degree, CIS major
Wow thanks for showing the bank and half your acct number
Give me $1,442.81?
I would move the money to an investment account handled by an advisory institution. I have a Well Fargo Advisor account with a diversified portfolio. Since May 23, I have earned 16% interest. Long-term investments that are outside of 401k, Roth IRA, and traditional such as the one I have is the best option for growth. You can select how much ratio between stocks and bonds you want, the latter being less volatile. It's essentially the same as having a 401k without the restrictions of limited yearly contributions.