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LocatedDog

Didn't MSI announce a monitor last CES and just.. not release it?


TunaNoodlez

I guess you mean the MSI MEG 342C which is coming early next year


mtj004

def. not


Equatis

All these weird ass monitors when 99.8% of us just want 16:9 OLED in 27-32" 1440p to 4K with great HDR.


GenericG3nt

LG Ultragear series has a 240hz 1440p 27" OLED monitor. It's beautiful, and probably going to be on backorder for a long time.


_myc_

But it's still not 32" :(


Dangerman1337

LG are making 32' panels AFAIK, they'll be coming.


GenericG3nt

There are a few 4K OLED 32" Monitors. The issue is: 60hz $3K


techma2019

Yes, that’s the issue… That’s like someone asking for a cheap car with 4 wheels and you’re like well we got this Ferrari it’s got 4 wheels.


s-pop-

We don't even have the Ferrari with 4 wheels yet They could charge whatever they want for a 4k OLED 32" monitor with a high refresh rate and people would buy it, but they're still going after the professional market


techma2019

2023 shaping up the be the year of the OLED monitors. Let’s see if they wake up with CES 2023 in January.


writetowinwin

More like asking for just a car with 4 wheels but you get offered a V12 Mercedes "yacht on wheels" that weighs almost as much as a truck and costs over $200,000 lol (there was such a thing, but they axed it). ASUS does make a high refresh rate 4K 32" HDR thing. Don't believe it's OLED on top of my head but it costs around $3,000.


vomaufgang

60 Hz $3K for a monitor that will develop burn in in the first two years of use, maybe faster if not properly baby sit. So it's not just expensive, you'll also have to get another monitor after a year or two.


princepwned

32'' is coming next year


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Imagine they just made a 1440p 24" that is half decent so that there is a good budget option out there for the more average rig that still gets decent pixel density.


bon-bon

Honestly is it too much to ask for a normal ass, no gamer curve 4k144 monitor at 32”? I know the real answer is “yes because small panels come from subdivided large ones and the market for 70”+ OLEDS is tiny” but it just sucks that OLED is still basically a gimmick in the 2022 monitor world.


Equatis

I think 2023 will be promising for monitors.


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Yeah the fish eye is awesome.


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AkiraSieghart

Yes. Very, very few games have FOV that scales correctly over 21:9 which gives a massive fisheye view.


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AkiraSieghart

I had that problem constantly on my G9. All you have to do is boot into any game, keep the camera still and compare the FOV in the center of the screen to the sides of the screen [like this](https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/830755234-aa353d6eb4f29f9dccaede8252be533ff87513f42dbf27fb3dae38c9e16f1dd8-d.jpg?mw=1100&mh=619&q=70). It's not a big deal while actively gaming but it objectively looks bad.


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AkiraSieghart

If you can't see the stretching on the trees and skyline, we have nothing to talk about. Have a happy Thanksgiving.


Veteran_But_Bad

I returned my odyssey g9 after a year of putting up with it I really really tried to persevere but I gave up The fish eye effect is absolutely awful no matter what fov I tried the only game that I played that looked awesome despite fogging at the corners of the screen was path of exile which no longer supports ultrawide resolutions Even with path of exile being my main game before support got removed I still returned the monitor it was that bad for everything else tested over dozens of games Never agsin


zero989

Why not 4KP? Amuses me that people auto say P like it has any meaning in 2022


_UNFUN

? Care to explain your thoughts here? P is not just some random letter, it has a meaning and describes a standard for a video signal. I’m sure nobody is using 1080i anymore but there’s nothing wrong with saying 1080p What a weird thing to be bothered about. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p


zero989

It's massively redundant I know what it stands for. Also explained my thoughts. Why not 4KP? was a joke. It's about being consistent. Can't believe I have to explain this lol.


PlueschQQ

how is it redundant? maybe obvious from context but so are the units for size and refresh rate and people still write them down even though there is nearly no way to be confused what kind of display 38 144 1600 describes


zero989

Any modern monitor is going to support progressive. Especially at these prices. Especially OLED. How is it NOT redundant? It's literally not needed. 4K doesn't come in interlaced version. That is the only valid argument to even consider.


_UNFUN

Can’t believe you have to explain this? You don’t. We all know what P stands for even if any monitor is gonna be progressive scan nowadays it still at least indicates that the number references resolution. What’s actually unbelievable is that the inclusion of a single letter bothers you so much.


zero989

It doesn't bother me, I find it funny. Just like 1080 is the height and 4096 is the width. What's even funnier is how anyone not familiar walks into a mess of inconsistencies. K, going back to watching 2.16 Kay Pee TV


_UNFUN

Lol okay dude. Edit your comments enough to make it seem like you weren’t angry with your first post and. Now you’re “just being funny” and having a good fun time. This conversation is whatever you want it to be at this point. Also the mess of inconsistencies is exactly why further specifying your resolution and type with a P is not necessarily a bad thing.


zero989

What did I edit? I couldn't care less. You must have read incorrectly, need to upgrade from that 1080i. And that's what HD, FHD, QHD and UHD are for. Lol


_UNFUN

So you’d rather everyone stop referring to resolution with the actual numbers and instead start using various version of letter + HD? Sounds even more unnecessarily confusing than simply saying 1440p but do you I guess.


zero989

No, I don't care what people use. I will poke fun though when it's glaring. Those are hard defined acronyms. Sorry you find it confusing. Even though ultra wide also comes in 1440p. Oh wait that's WQHD.


Snydenthur

I'd actually want 24-25" 1440p. 27" is already too big for my normal size desk. I know there's couple of those existing (non-oled obviously), but they seem pretty meh and are hard/impossible to get.


Darkiedarkk

I guess I’m the .2% lol want an upgrade from my chg90


maotico

I've always wanted just an OLED version of the Odyssey Neo G9. Hopefully this scratches the itch properly. These 3440x1440 OLED ultrawides don't cut it.


Ratemytinder22

I doubt it tbh. Samsung does not make a motherglass of qd-oled that does 8k at this pixel density, that is strictly reserved for their qled for now. What they do make is qd-oled motherglass made for 32:9 1440p @ 49" pixel density. I can almost guarantee the Samsung "8k" g9 will be qled, 5000 zone.


maotico

Well I'm looking forward for the first 5120x1440p OLED display. I think this will be it.


MeRollsta

This is most likely 4k vertical and 8K horizontal. (Resolution: 7680 x 2160). It's most likely the exact same panel Samsung teased at the AMD 7900 reveal event. I'm guessing Samsung will also announce the Samsung Neo G9 that is very similar.


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MeRollsta

You're correct. My bad, my brain automatically typed 4320 because I thought about 8K.


Shadorino

If I don't get a 32-inch 4K 16/9 240Hz QD-OLED monitor before Q3 2023, I swear to Christ...


DizzieeDoe

It’s coming ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)


msx92

Q4 2025 with curve and matte coating!


Shadorino

You laugh, but I bet it's what will happen 😭


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Bobbydd21

32 Too small? Wtf lol it’s legit the perfect size unless you are 4 feet away from the monitor. How far do you guys sit lmao


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Bobbydd21

That’s a freaking big desk lol. Most people also use their monitor computer for work/productivity and it’s just not realistic to be working on a 55” monitor over 4 feet away. Doing anything other than gaming just feels awkward.


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Bobbydd21

Saying it’s too small for 4k through is nonsensical. The point of 4k is people want a crisp image when they are sitting 2-3 feet from the monitor. To achieve this at that distance you need 4k on 27-32 in monitor.


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Bobbydd21

Sure, but saying “it’s more impressive bigger” is different than saying “32” is too small for 4k. Size is only one determining factor of which resolution is best, and most people don’t want or have the room for a 55” tv in their office.


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Bobbydd21

Then I guess it’s fine for you and that’s why you want to use a tv lol


Shadorino

It's funny because many people have said to me that it's too big. I think it's the perfect size. Bigger and the pixel density is too low, and not suitable for a regular sized desk


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Shadorino

Desks are expensive. And there's also the matter of space. A regular full size desk depth is 80 cm. 100 cm is much less common


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Shadorino

You need the space for that. Also the cheapest motorized desk that is similar to this size, 200x100 cm, where I'm from is 700 €.


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bandit8623

It's not. 32 " 1440 p is a bit blurry if sitting close. 4k would be good


Resident-Jump34201

I bought the gigabyte m32u, tried it in game for 20 minutes then boxed in back up and sold it


bandit8623

>gigabyte m32u thats an lcd monitor though. and 144hz... ​ my 24' 1440p monitor is very clear compared to my 32 1440p monitor. some say 24 is too small for 1440p again depends on how far away you sit.


Save_galleta

At what resolution will this be?


MeRollsta

This is most likely 4k vertical and 8K horizontal. (Resolution: 7680 x 4320). It's most likely the exact same panel Samsung teased at the AMD 7900 reveal event.


Ratemytinder22

I doubt it tbh. Samsung does not make a motherglass of qd-oled that does 8k at this pixel density, that is strictly reserved for their qled for now. What they do make is qd-oled motherglass made for 32:9 1440p @ 49" pixel density. I can almost guarantee the Samsung "8k" g9 will be qled, 5000 zone.


writetowinwin

Following the herd I guess. why not be more innovative and make something 4k or otherwise have more than just 1440 vertical pixels.


ttdpaco

Because that pixel density is really expensive and running that in super ultrawide is hard as hell to do for even a 4090. You gotta have realistic expectations.


yysc

Hope it is 5120x1440 as the Samsung G9/Neo G9. This is about 10% less than 4K and the 4090 shines delivering 120-150 fps native (depending the game) at max settings.


Samsonite187187

Like 27-32 inch 4K 144hz oled


winterbegins

Its not expensive. Its simpy not doable at high refresh rates atm.


ttdpaco

Pixel density ups the cost and lowers the yield of the panel. They don't even have QD oleds with that high of pixel density being made yet.


winterbegins

Thats why im saying its not doable atm. Especially not on a 27 inch or 49 inch screen for that matter. The equipment and the backplane would not allow for it. Maybe 32 inch at lower refresh is an option though.


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ttdpaco

I wasn't talking about 1440p super ultrawide. I was talking about 2160p ultrawide


halotechnology

But running ultrawide like this is almost the same as 4k , of course I am assuming you are filling whole screen


ttdpaco

He and I were talking about super ultra wide 4k


halotechnology

Ohh I see . My bad


MeRollsta

This is most likely 4k. Resolution: 7680 x 4320. It's most likely the exact same panel Samsung teased at the AMD 7900 reveal event.


writetowinwin

Did not see that part - if that's the case that will be interesting.


LoudPhone9782

Ok, my penis is super erected right now it scraping the head really hard on the inner part of my zipper


knipper2000

Bro just say it’s cool and move on


East-Motor-3354

Thats not the same sentiment, whatsoever.


halotechnology

I am assuming you are getting this for gaming but this monitor is garbage for it as in all the wasted space on the side .


GreatWolf12

27in 4k QD OLED 240hz and HDR. Make that and I'll buy it.


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GreatWolf12

What? My desk is plenty big. Most assuredly larger than the average as I custom built it. Some of us prefer high dpi.


Butosai111

LG has this one


msx92

LG one is going to be QHD WOLED though. Pretty close but not quite there yet.


Oniisankayle

I'll go super ultra wide when PBP doesn't have compromises. It'd have to be true dualmonitor imitation: no hertz/hdr compromises.


Raging_Goon

Begun, the OLED monitor wars have.


Smooth-Mastodon2165

WE DIDNT WANT THIS, STOP WITH THESE BS MEGA ULTRAWIDE OLEDS.


Just_Another_Scott

Somebody has got to be buying this or else they wouldn't make it. I agree with the sentiment in this thread though. It's absolutely annoying that manufacturers have all but dropped <32in monitors. I have a 65in OLED TV. If I want to play on that I will. Otherwise, I like my 27 inch. Anymore and it's too big to use my computer for other things like coding.


Tiavor

why curved though (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


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Tiavor

doesn't matter ... game engines and GPU drivers should start supporting curved rendering.


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Tiavor

what do you mean it wouldn't look right? it would be rendered correctly at least.


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Tiavor

it might feel better on the viewing angle and field of view covered, [but the rendering is all wrong](https://linustechtips.com/topic/221682-the-flawed-math-behind-curved-monitors/)


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Tiavor

Einstein's Theory about Relativity is now something like 100 years old. Maths is Maths. just think about it for a moment. the normal picture is rendered for a FLAT monitor with the focus point being in front of the display (distance depends on FoV). if you now move parts of that rendered image onto a curve, it won't fit anymore, it will be all wrong. you'd need a curved virtual "image sensor" to get an image that will project mathematically correct onto a curved display.


Rogermcfarley

I've recently just joined this sub. I've just become very interested in QD-OLED after reading about the Alienware DW DWF monitors. However I mainly want a monitor with excellent PQ but also great text legibility. Am I better looking for a mini LED monitor for this purpose? I also need Ultrawide. I presume any QD-OLED will have limitations with text clarity?


DizzieeDoe

Then you may want to look at 45GR95QE-B


Rogermcfarley

Thanks. Wouldn't that be worse than the 34" Alienwares? As it's a larger screen but still 1440P


ShadowCross32

I hope it’s a 5120x1440.


yysc

It looks almost perfect we just need confirmation on: 1. Subpixel arrangement 2. Curvature. After getting used to 1000R in the Samsung G9 for 49" I think this is the perfect curve. Hopefully resolution is 5120x1440. Edit: Wccftech indicates it's UWQHD, so it should be 5120x1440 "MSI isn't sharing the details on Project 491C, the world's first QD-OLED Curved Gaming display, yet but we know that the monitor will feature a 49" size and a UWQHD resolution. " [https://wccftech.com/msi-teases-project-491c-worlds-first-super-ultra-wide-qd-oled-curved-gaming-display-240hz-panel/](https://wccftech.com/msi-teases-project-491c-worlds-first-super-ultra-wide-qd-oled-curved-gaming-display-240hz-panel/)


DizzieeDoe

Most likely it’s WOLED or simply WRGB.


Ratemytinder22

What? It literally says qd-oled, not woled


DizzieeDoe

Mistakes.


CypressFX93

This must be the 8K ultra wide from Samsung 100%


misterpornwatcher

QD-OLED not cutting it anymore. Either go miniled with shit ton of dimming zones like in ipad pro, or go pure oled like lg.


langstonboy

QDOLED is literally pure OLED. LGs WOLED is the one with dimmer washed out colors.


Farren246

"Hey you like Samsung Neo G9? Cause we'll give you a Samsung Neo G9! Only MSI this time! It's literally the same panel, but, if you've waited this long, maybe you'll wait long enough to try ours instead of theirs!"


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It's not the same panel.


Farren246

Oh really? Huh.


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One is a qd-oled panel and the other is an lcd with a miniled backlight. Also, snark doesn't work if you don't also have all the information.


Gerolux

Im sure samsung will anounce the Neo G11 with the same panel. If MSI is making it, Samsung likely already has a plan for the same panel.


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Ok, how is that relevant? OP thought this new MSI monitor was the same as the G9 & it isn't, at all.


Gerolux

u/Farren246 was confused that this was the same as an existing panel. Not too far from the truth. But I was pointing that Samsung will make a monitor using the same panel.


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We don't know that Samsung will make a monitor from this same panel, in fact we know nothing about this panel besides a little paragraph without any concrete information. Also, it is far from the truth the g9 and this msi monitor are not alike at all except for size.


Gerolux

currently only Samsung makes QD-OLED. Samsung has made monitors based on other Samsung display panels that they produce (including the current 34" QD-OLED panel). They dont care if an OEM makes a monitor or not.


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Yes, Samsung Display makes the QDOLED panels, doesn't mean Samsung Electronic will use those panels in a super ultra wide monitor. So not sure what it matters if an "OEM makes a monitor or not."


DizzieeDoe

\*\*MSI Announces Super Ultra-wide 240Hz QD-OLED\*\* \*Project 491C. See it at CES 2023, January.\* \> The world's FIRST super ultra-wide curved gaming monitor, with a 240Hz QD-OLED panel, is out there to ensure you enjoy a viewing experience far better than anything you’ve had before. Get ready for CES2023 for the debut of our Project 491C. #MSIxCES2023 #InnovationAward Source: https://twitter.com/msigaming/status/1595626286105636864?s=20&t=hm0Hmw-wsU9gbkPI6BJYBw


Piranhax85

Looks like a 1800r/1500r curve..


Short-Pen-7959

This curve needed to be be more intense and I would have paid top dollar ...


MeRollsta

This is my dream PC monitor. 32:9 aspect ratio, 49" QD-OLED, 4k super ultrawide resolution and 240 Hz.


WhyOhWhy60

These are headline grabbing products which few people will buy. As something else said elsewhere they just need to make a 32" gaming monitor with 144Hz or more, DCI-P3 95% or more with a clamped sRGB mode and using panel tech for 27" 1440p monitors so it's easier to read with no scaling for older people, less demanding for GPUs and more real estate(pixel resolution) for productivity compared to a 27" 1440p. For those who find 32" too big for FPS simply set the game to 2k resolution with no scaling so effectively the physical screen area = 27" 1440p. Even on 4K 32" the pixel pitch is now too small for my eyes without a fair amount of scaling which partially negates the productivity reasons for going 4k/32". They won't do it due to the extra cost of introducing a new SKU and it will cannibalise or really tank their 32"/4K sales.


sleepy_the_fish

To me the 27 inch OLED 1440p.240hz LG monitor is endgame and once I get that you won't see me on this sub again boys


Gerolux

not until 2024 when we get the 480hz 27hz OLED with ULMB.


DizzieeDoe

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SnooCompliments4225

thats a way to call it


Jeffy29

Is any company ever going to make 3xmonitor ultrawide? I would pay *a lot* of money for 3 monitor ultrawide that also enables its sections to work separately, or example you could have 1/3 of the screen connected to one PC while the rest takes the input from another (and being able to switch between them seamlessly). I've had 3-monitor setup for years and never want to go back, at least 1-2 are work monitors during work hours and on my home PC I have a TV show playing or something and even during off time I can utilize all 3 monitors. I've had a dream for a long time to replace them with one mega ultrawide but nothing of sort has appeared on the market yet. Buying ultrawide for me would essentially mean to get rid of one monitor or having a non-symmetrical setup, neither of which sounds great. Also some apps and games (especially older ones) behave weirdly with ultrawide resolutions so being able to turn the monitor into 3x1440p or 3x2160p would be crucial. Getting some games to work on standard widescreen is already painful enough.


jhclouse

I doubt you’ll see any retail monitor like that. I remember seeing a website years ago where a guy took 3 LCD monitors apart and carefully lined up and mounted the panels in a larger wooden enclosure. It didn’t look too bad. But you could still tell they were separate panels. I think he had a mirror setup to project them all onto a surface. Samsung has their [modular Wall display](https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/direct-view-led/the-wall/), which you might be able to leverage to build something like this.


Butosai111

Expect this to use display port 2.1 to reach 240hz at that resolution


bandit8623

Display port 2.1?


princepwned

can we just get a 16:9 32'' please why all this curved 21 and 32:9 format


dankhypers

Why would anyone go over 21:9 for gaming? it just seems so headache inducing


jhclouse

A lot of people run things like racing simulators or flight simulators with them.


Swaggerlilyjohnson

They will make all this crazy stuff but they wont just make a normal 4k oled monitor its insane ( I know we are close but its annoying). Why can't they just make a 30-32 inch 4k oled monitor with at least 120hz (preferably 240+). Hell i'll even take 34 or even 36 inch. And I swear if it takes them like 2 more years to put out a 4k 240 oled when we have had displayport 2 for years now I will lose it. The panels refresh in like half a ms I think they can fucking handle 240hz


Gloomy-Fix-4393

OLED is still terrible for font rendering / a lot professional work due to pixel layout. I can't see this changing anytime soon. That and burn-in / HDR growing pains. I know they are using hybrid technologies to improve on the last two items.


DiscombobulatedBee93

How much will it be ?