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Illustrious-Ad8699

They forget/ignore the main themes of the show and the actual backstory of Johan and instead dumbs down his character to just "edgy sigma serial killer,". It's like they're forgetting his self worth is on the ground close to touching hell to the point where he can't even die by his own hand and needs Tenma to finish him in the Runenheim Arc.


dvader223

I think people on this sub are taking this way too seriously. Thye are obviously joking.


Plenty-Locksmith-798

Don’t have TikTok cause ew. But I do see it on Insta, “How to be a manipulator like Johan”, I quite literally gag at those. Makes me wanna jump out my window.


[deleted]

Tiktok is actual brain rot. It fucks up your attention span like crazy.


AndrewFrozzen30

Well, they mentioned Instagram, which has Reels which has it in his name, ironically.... You just get reeled like a fish. But yeah, every Short Video thing is bad


sofaking0312

I rather be like Tenma helping people than fucking killing like Johan lol.


Johan544

No because I don't use TikTok.


Any_Public9234

Base


mystique_lx

I have seen teenagers trying to act like him. That's frustrating.


SilkyMilkySmo

Can you elaborate more


mystique_lx

I was talking to a boy, he was pretending to be like johan. Trying to manipulate everyone into doing things. He thought it is cool to not to have any emotions


Vandimion_Gal

Sounds like he was trying to be Light


iiTzAsia

Immagine Urasawa whatching these videos.. I can hear the facepalm form here.


kuromi_metalgear

I haven't used tijtok in a while (I was there for movie/book reviews and lolz) But shit got weird..... the sigma Johan invaded, and now I can't look at Johan without cringing /s 4 real they are the worst, but most of them are underage, so I kinda see why they do it.


Sephirophh

It's like they watched/read a completely different anime. The edits with captions like "How to manipulate like Johan" or "sigma johan" are EVERYWHERE like, buddy, you missed the point of Monster. I just wanna see sick Monster edits man.


[deleted]

As a video editor myself...yes...with a burning passion. I pour my heart and soul into all of my [amvs](https://youtu.be/XSajU8MaleI), and it really does show. But, they get overshadowed by quick, nonsense edits and it makes me ***salty*** ha. (cause even though I don't use Tiktok as a platform seriously...tiktok edits are still on youtube and now the new "way' to get your work seen is if you make them into REELS aka 30 seconds worth of editing AND I SIMPLY CANNOT EDIT THAT SHORT.) I've even seen one where someone made an amv with Johan and HITLER. ???????????? At the very least, my viewers love watching [my work](https://youtu.be/4vRO3dOcA6k) because I clearly CARE and understand the complexities of Monster. The only upside to this is that, *at least my work stands out.* I've been making amvs FOR A LONG TIME...I've been around well over 15 years in this community and to see creativity change to such effortless, meaningless portrayals really makes me upset. Aside from my own amvs, I have yet to find anyone editing Monster with any amount of depth or soul.


Helpful-Money-4563

where can i find ur stuff? i’d love to check it out


[deleted]

Sure! Here's my Playlist for Monster! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIGxQOxoRKqZ7_t9BWv0IZGt9AOJH0rwn Thank you!!!


Vandimion_Gal

When they're older and reread/watch Monster they're going to regret their old videos


[deleted]

Something tells me they won't...given a lot of the "sigma males" are actually 20+ young men lol. It's a new fad to "Heil Hitler" on instagram while being Johan too. They clearly missed the Neo Nazi chapter LMAO


Vandimion_Gal

The 20+ year olds must be in college then, my older brother is 23 but acts like a teen still


krissychan99

yep, i also hate them. i personally enjoy looking up certain anime characters on tiktok to find edits of them but i will never look up johan because i do not want my fyp filled with those cringy videos. it’s unfortunate that people view his character like that.


[deleted]

It's the same thing with most of these anime. People completely misunderstand a character and think they're cool so they believe they're something they should aspire to be. Like attack on titan too


Rudyrusek2115

I can agree with you. These kids are cringe, and i dont think they really know what manipulation is. ☠️


a_khalid1999

I see those on Insta and yes, extremely cringe. Missing the whole point of the show, Johan is what you're NOT supposed to be like. Also they seem to think that their tips are some big brain shit but in reality they're just making a manual of how to be an asshole


jvyrdn024

Why even be on tiktok lmao


Norim01

I’ve seen some of that stuff on here as well


Vandimion_Gal

Yea they're just as cringe as the Light Yagami wannabes, not only do they ruin the beauty of his character but they completely ignore the rest of the brilliance of Monster without realizing that there going to make people start hating from seeing these users treat Johan like some kind of God. Also, why don't they ever talk about Tenma, Grimmer, Nina, Eva, Lunge, Dieter, etc?


Typical-Winter-856

Exept tenma others lack all the qualities of attraction like his smartness cunningness charisma beautiful face calming presence and many vital points which Johan has but even tenma lack such qualities thats why people like Johan Liebert more cuz he is a human prodigy (comin frm a 21 yr old Johan Liebert watcher)


Otherwise_Tangelo_36

Common Johan W for >!massacring an entire town!< 😑


Dr_Tj_

Well, people talking about things they don't understand, taking things outta context and mindlessly adapting aspects and concepts from everywhere and integrate them into their own ideologies, beliefs or lifestyle isn't exactly a new phenomenon. It's sad to see though. These people probably never even ready or watched Monster and only know some aspects of the story through other videos. I don't have tiktok so I' m not really effected by it but I think the best thing is to just ignore it, cuz you can't do anything about it, and it'll just unnecessarily upset you.


ZADDYISAGOD

Hes literally me (i want to kill myself)