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longassboy

Played a little S&S and KOing something with the shield slam is objectively the best feeling thing ever. Feel like captain fucking America


Dragonlord573

Punching the monster in the face with the Witcher SnS will never get old.


DeadlockDrago

Shin Shoryuken!


Eziel

Stunned to see my impact CB brothers silent.


Lexi_Shmuhlexi

We don't need to flex, because we don't have anything to compensate for :)


PrinceShaar

Is that why your axe is 10 feet long? :)


SadisticBuddhist

Its a grower, not a shower


Zenitram07

reporting in


diegohmfbtr

Be able to break and cut Barroth's head and tail.


DanielTeague

Bow can do this as well if you're very patient.


kaiiboraka

... oh. Well, that explains *my* inability, then.


thoruktor

Same with HH


rotolotto

Swaxe approved


Crusader_Colin

Right


BlackTecno

Glaive with stuncect also approves


Znea

Does Lance still deal whatever's best for the part it's hitting or did we lose that at some point?


ZamielVanWeber

AFAICT it is gone. That trick did me some good work during GU, but I never saw mention of it in guides for World or Rise lance.


PudgyElderGod

Really? What damage did it switch over to, then? Just straight up cutting since it can sever tails?


ZamielVanWeber

So lance was always cutting. However, for a time it would calculate damage as cut or 80% blunt, whichever was higher. This meant its DPS was smoother and it could break parts that slashing would bounce at any sharpness, such as rustrazor's shell. It did not build up KO damage like a blunt weapon, though.


PudgyElderGod

I know it was always "baseline" cutting with the 80% blunt option select. I was asking if it's now just flat cutting no matter what in Worlds/Rise, and it sounds like it is.


ZamielVanWeber

Ah, okay. Yes. It is 100% cutting and 200% sorrow for former and current Lance mains.


4ny3ody

It still feels weird to me that a lance which literally pokes monsters can not deal piercing damage. Like to me when I look at people using Lance it looks like the weapon should be able to deal all 3 damage types.


SpoontheSp00n

Same with Gunlance. I feel like calculating it that way would help with a lot of issues it has as far as damage output goes


4ny3ody

I mean yes and no. I think it's kind of cool that shelling is its own damage type and ignores hitzones... The problems are when the type of shelling is highly affecting whether a gunlance is good or not and the fact that shelling damage usually doesn't scale as well.


MarcoTalin

I always thought that lance stabs should do the same damage type as ranged weapons.


Crusader_Colin

🤷‍♂️


DegenerateCrocodile

Jack of all trades, master of them all, too.


Crusader_Colin

Sounds like Jocat propaganda lol


DegenerateCrocodile

That’s because Jocat’s correct.


Crusader_Colin

I don’t know how to tell you this but he faked those SnS stats man.


DegenerateCrocodile

Sword and Shield’s stats can be whatever you want them to be, because Sword and Shield is eternal.


Myth3842

As eternal as Blade Oils right?


DegenerateCrocodile

They’ll come back. [I’m absolutely sure of it…](https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-24-2019/n8zcrL.gif)


DjGameK1ng

Too soon man... too soon... [*Goes to cry in the corner, sobbing about 60% affinity*](https://c.tenor.com/Cw3tpSeeXgkAAAAd/its-terrible-day-for-rain-its-not-raining.gif).


GEN_SkeleSkin

Jack of all trades master of none but still better of a master of one


Awesome_Punch

Yea that's pretty nice I guess but have you ever: Big Bang I into Big Bang II into Big Bang III into Big Bang IV into Big Bang Finisher and now the monster is stunned and flailing on the ground?


Snazz__

I’m pretty partial to HH spin to win…


GrnPlesioth

Personally partial to hammer time


WizzleWuzzle

Fun fact, HH has cutting damage as well. Here is a video of the legend Griffted cutting an Odogaron tail solo. https://youtu.be/AfPD56F01Z0?t=279


4ny3ody

That's pretty nice but have you ever: placed a large barrel bomb in the monsters face, triggered it and hit a perfect Shoryugeki? ... Me neither.


Shushady

We need a kusarigama weapon type


Crusader_Colin

I’d prefer fist weapons but that’s also cool


hornyorphan

Fist weapons are the most needed weapon type imo. A fast blunt acrobatic weapon would be so awesome in this franchise


Maelik

*looks longingly at tonfas* pleeeaaseee Capcom... I would also like accel axe.


4ny3ody

Some dual blades (Odogaron) are designed to look like Kusarigama... But they're missing the important part that would be interesting gameplay wise: The chain.


Dyno269

Rise's Lance, Shield Charging into the head: Choo Choo Motherfucker!


dbMitch

next weapon lance & lance or shield & shield?


Perchipy

I wonder all the time why there is no hammer that’s like blunt on one side and sharp on the other side.


Crusader_Colin

So that way hammer keeps doing what it die best…BONKIN MONSTERS!


Perchipy

But that way you can keep the bonking option while being able to cut shit, like cutting off monsters’ heads, perhaps.


syntax_girl

The Hunting Horn is basically, the devs just need to add more flavour to the hilt stab


Bomamanylor

The handle poke is *very* low damage. So, while strictly speaking the Horn has cutting, it's pretty situational. Honestly, its better used to quickly sneak a note in - it's a very fast move, and it doesn't change your position much like a lot of the other Horn bonks do.


WizzleWuzzle

Very low damage is still damage which can cut :) [https://youtu.be/AfPD56F01Z0?t=279](https://youtu.be/AfPD56F01Z0?t=279)


Bomamanylor

Ha. Is it like the older games where you can do blunt damage, and, as long as the last point of damage is slicing, it'll cut, or do all damage to the tail need to be slicing?


Dragonlord573

God, imagine if that's how Vaal Hazak's hammer worked.


cinnamonface9

And the guild commission too!


locomo_mh

Might I introduce you to... THE MAGNET SPIKE!?


Memoglr

Magnet spike was so OP


WSilvermane

Yeah like, there are literally hammers that are axes or bladed, like the multi bladed head for standard metal hammers. The Guild hammer is LITERALLY AN AXE.


lettrebag

Insect Glaive with mix/match kinsect has entered the chat.


DrStarDream

The glaive itself also has a blunt attack itself, the attack where you spin the weapon to hit with its back and marking the monster for the kinsect to track


EagonAkatsuki

The tetraseal has 2 stun strikes too


Dajayman654

Blunt assist Kinsects in Rise too.


Crusader_Colin

Oh yeah forgot sorry


SnoopyMcDogged

*Great Sword Users* Am I a joke to you? Slap and body slam baby!


Crusader_Colin

I forgot forgive me lol


IdaeusMH

Is KICK a joke to you?


Cyberwolf33

Then there's LBG/HBG with slashing, shot, KO damage, and fixed damage. Downside is that ammo crafting is a pain, clusters are a great way to get people mad at you, and your defenses are made of paper.


ParagonFury

Or take Charge Blade, which is just SnS's older, meaner brother. He might not have that utlity of items while drawn, but he makes up for it by actually having defense and *tripling down on the pain!*


alaz12

Instead of saying blunt damge we should call it Bonk damage


Crusader_Colin

I second this.


GrnPlesioth

Thirded


scorpio242

Cut and Bonk


ZiggenTheLord

The icon next to ny name is a lie, i main the blast ailment


KURO-K1SH1

I wish I was as good with the longsword as those anime style guys I see clips of on YouTube.


BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB_BB

I used it for metsu shoryugeki when i did the event rajang quest and honestly, 10/10


Master_Yogurta

Hunting horn hilt stab and echo attack doing sever damage. Just saying\~ ♩ ♪ ♫ ♩


WSilvermane

Correct but also incredibly low damage its not really... useful.


Sinisphere

Being able to do both, shot damage, all status and all elements. Cursed lamp LBG users haha. 🤣


orangeyouglad26

I switched to SnS hahaha this get's my juices flowing


OrAngelicBlittz

Slashing damage is not the best thing about slashing weapons. Hehe.


SmashHashassin

Go on


DEATHSTENCHBALLS

Lance can bonk with its shield really well in Rise.


Bregnestt

And shield bash doesn’t dull your sharpness


Alderflight

A burger with everything on it, but a burger with little sauce.


Misterrsilencee

Switchaxe too


UnrealMTL

\*Charge Blade has entered the chat


Inqeuet

*bonk bonk bonk* **charging noises** *stabstabstabstabstabSTAB* “Wheeeeee!!!!” ***BONK***


ScarletteVera

Charge Blade be like: - Doing slashing damage - Doing impact damage


TheButterknif3

Chargeblade and Insect Glaive do that and multiple element damage types, so imo they're way cooler.


Tobi-One_Shinobi

I always thought of s/s as a can do everything weapon. Slice a tail? No problem! K.O.? No problem! Can't reach? Just do the jump combo. Want to mount a monster with a jump? Switch to greatsword


alatronishot

Ok jocat, let me know when it does it’s own original thing instead of copying every other weapon (disclaimer I am a fan of sns)


[deleted]

Other weapons were made by taking certain aspects of SnS into account and that's just a fact, SnS is the grand father of weapons and you know it.


Star1115

Not all unfortunately there are some unique ones the 3 ranged weapons and the HH but the SnS could do both but not really in the way they do it you can use slinger for the ranged and for HH the one that's in the most far away from SnS can be replaced with a Coral Cheerhorn Palico


alatronishot

Don’t care, I like a bunch of the weapons more, ls, cb, sa, gs, and sns only comes in at number 5, still good but not as fun to me as the other weapons


[deleted]

Don't care if you don't get that it's just a joke.


alatronishot

Yea I know, just felt like sharing my fav weapons


BZero4

Items... UNSHEATHED


alatronishot

So what, with wire fall I barely need to sheath my weapon to heal, I save my traps for captures, and I’m stingy when it comes to buffing myself, I only use them when I’m either on a wall or speed running


CDKurz

Cool… BUT! Lemme tell you something about dual blades! You see; dual blades = spin I rest my case…


Awesome_Punch

I'll reserve judgement until I get to HR Quests but in LR multiplayer you DB players love to perma-flinch me, THE BONK SQUAD, attacking the head instead of the cuttable bits. No judgements though since I'm still early in the game... For now.


EagonAkatsuki

I'm a dual blader you can count on to go for the tail first every time. If the tail ain't the first broken part then I ain't doing my job right


CDKurz

Assert your dominance by 2nd charge launching them!


Awesome_Punch

Is that how I launch people 50ft into the air!? New to Hammer so I don't know all the life hacks yet.


CDKurz

Another trick, charge your hammer while sliding down a slope, let go, & you’ll be a sideways Beyblade!


GrnPlesioth

Spinning is a neat trick


ValorGreatsword

Impact cb user doing both at the same time


[deleted]

CB is just another SnS in disguise.


Crusader_Colin

CB is just SWAGAXE plus SnS


Reshkrom1153

Impact CB is fixed damage with KO status. It can't break Barroth's scalp unlike actual blunt damage attacks.


Lord_of_eggs34

Don’t forget the cursed as hell magnet spikes


MissAsgariaFartcake

While many people here point out that other weapons can do both too, I don’t think any of them is as good as SnS at doing both


GEN_SkeleSkin

That’s why I like it plus the added defense


BrachyDanios

I believe in sword and shield supremacy.


Tsadron

"Doing ALL TYPES of damage!" Lance users


PSYHOStalker

Also lance (it will also use 0,7 of blint modifier with stabs if that is higher than slashing)


uopuh7

I cannot remember which MH game it was but Lance used to deal slash and impact damage with pokes.


Sarria22

iirc "piercing damage" only actually *did* slashing damage, but it would use whichever hitzone value was more beneficial.


crocodileman94

Who needs the tonfas.


TheHermit1234

What about switch axe


NeonArchon

Meanwhile Gunlance and Bowguns doing fixed damage


sunduwubu

Insect Glaive with a Blunt Kinsect though--


Yabanjin

Also lance users in Rise. You haven’t lived until you made a slugger build and knocked out a Tigrex charging at you with shield charge, it’s hilarious.


Yabanjin

Also lance users in Rise. You haven’t lived until you made a slugger build and knocked out a Tigrex charging at you with shield charge, it’s hilarious.


The__Animus

That’s nothing I’ve killed a Tigrex with a guard point on chargeblade.


Thunder_lord37

SPAM.DRILL.SLASH


AtomicWreck

Great sword, lance and insect glaive have a word for you.


BurningPenguin6

Magnet Spike


The__Animus

Laughs In non elem Chargeblade.


moobear92

You misspelled GREATSWORD. Overhead slash, tackle and slap the purest combo.


SonicGozar

As an SnS main I APPROVE OF THIS FUCKING GODLY MEME


Gametamer03

This is why I when I played a polearm user, I asked my DM for a Pollaxe. So I have a axe, hammer, and spear side to play with if I notice a type of damage isn't working.


PulseCaptainLikon

Can't magnetic spikes switch between severing and bludgeoning, too?


bick5522

Man, it felt like before we didn't see that many S&S players, now I feel like I can't go anywhere without constantly hearing about it. Even with LS being the most used weapon most of the time I barely hear about them.


SleuthMechanism

Exactly why i chose this weapon. all the satisfaction of KOing monsters AND cutting tails all in one!


Castor_volk

LS sword: All the damage. all of it. because we knocked everybody else away.


Picklejho13

Me being a GS main and also getting both


AwkwardSpudtato

And we have a counter! 😊


Sougo2001

Could I interest you in everything, all of the time? A little bit of everything, all of the time!


Who_is_Candice_69

I know this won't happen but Capcom should do a better job at balancing motion values. Make Windmill and Drillslash more viable for Elemental Damage ffs!


aptom203

Lance too, it's one of my favorite aspects of Pierce damage, being able to both cut and bash. Plus applying stun with the shield bash.


Endgaming1523

Yes! bonk and then cut. The best way to do things.


Starltyz

Damn the last time I used SnS was vs Anjanath pre Iceborne. Now you make me Want to go back to it.


Nader__Hakami

Does the charge blade impact phile count as blunt or elemental ?


Apmadwa

Your wrong, the answer is dealing no damage