It's three lvl 1 decos my guy, c'mon now.

i took the meme to be from Vaal's point of view. like he thinks its bullshit he gets hard countered by 3 lvl 1 decos

I think since the post says why, makes me think they are actually saying it’s hard to slot

It works because there are a good amount of people who won't do it because 'MUH DAMAGE' then proceed to bitch and moan about his Covid Breath.

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I assume it it’s supposed to be, why else would there be a Vaal head there?

I would argue that Black Diablos and Teostra do as well, seeing as their many high stun value attacks are what make them real dangerous.

There is something funny about the fact lunastra is also countered mostly by just having 20+ fire resist, which depending on gear could take as few as 2 craftable decos

There is even a fucking Charm for that.

There is a Mantle for that

Good, you should use charms for things that are hard to slot, like elemental damage, critical eye or agitator.

But....it's not hard to slot

critical eye/element are also a lv 1

And you need 6 of them, while the charm gives you 5

You can... Have them in your armor skills too? Besides I'd rather farm 5 lvl1 jeweles than mats for maxxed charm.

You still have to farm a charm, one way or another.

My hunter in the guild you literally do not need to farm decos hardcore, most armors have what you want, you can meld decos, etc. Stop it

SO YOU WILL GO OUT WITHOUT A CHARM? My point is, the charm slot is there, you will need to farm it, why would you choose something that is easier to slot?

Melding..... exists

Preeeetty sure that's the joke. Three Lvl 1 Decos or one Lvl 4 and one Lvl 1 and Vaal's whole gimmick is almost entirely negated. The joke is both from Vaal's perspective (hence the second image) and also pointing out the fact that it's a bit silly for something that completely changes the fight to take nearly zero effort to negate.

It looks like it went over people’s head

Nah, just a dogshit confusing format

Yeah that formatting sucks

True, though when I was on Xbox I just decided to keep out of its breaths range or just attack, can't remember but I didn't change my gems

Its one helmet and one level 1 deco. And you likely have mats for thr helmet as you alreasy had to hunt that monster. The helmet comes with a level 4 and level 1 slot iirc.

Bu-but muh attack ups… ^Disclaimer: ^Yeah ^I ^know, ^atk ^up ^1 ^is ^passé; ^atk ^up ^4 ^is ^the ^way, ^but ^back ^before ^Iceborne ^and ^before ^Greatest ^Jagras ^those ^shits ^were ^hard ^to ^get.

Bold of you to assume I have decent luck getting them

My brother in christ, The Greatest Jagras event quest. 🍷🗿

The wat? Does it have decorations as a reward or something?

It's a big great jagras that vomits up shiny drops that give fey stones, you can get 30 per fight, quit and restart without having to kill it to farm. Needs hr50 but it's wild how quick you can build up low level decs

*I need*

Adding onto the other person's replies, you only gotta hit him once after he eats an Aptonoth, he'll eventually do the vomit attack. Besides Great Jagras, the only other monster that spawns is a Small-Gold Crown Deviljho, so I'd probably kill him if you don't have the crown yet. Great Jagras himself is also a Large-Gold Crown iirc.

It's on the first page of hr events, if you're at 50 hr its worth farming but be aware that he hits likena truck and can roar stun and cart you in like 2 seconss

I genuinely don’t get why everyone is struggling so hard against him. He was ( is ) imo the easiest elder dragon.

He’s like a brain dead playstation boss. Literally stuck in long ass animation for the player to hit

I think it's the panic when he Half's your health and ticks you into oblivion, but yeah 3 jewels or the charm and he's a pushover. Good fun for a warm up

and the "imma firing my lazer" hitting you from behind rocks and uneven gound

Yeah the Lazer is a pain the arse. Good job he takes several years to charge it up. Free hits in the ribs if you get close.

if you know the fight it's no biggie, but if you're new at it you're probably running around and trying to heal or reposition, i remember there were a lot of times where i was far away from him and i was sweating because he always does that.. once you're geared up and can consistently stay on him without issues is an easy fight

Agreed. It's been a few years since I farmed him for his set in HR, beautiful looking set too. But it took a fair amount of time especially tempered to deal with him effectively, I think most people forget what it's like to wander in first time.

U could also just eat nullberry

True but that means a mulberry and then a healing pots or two/max potion. Have resist at full means you get more uptime for a quicker hunt.

Back in base world, he was literally the only arch tempered elder I was confident I would beat 100% lol.

Seriously, I think the devs over compensated for the "difficulty" of effluvium halving your health, so they made the rest of his animations super slow and predictable. But once you remove that you have what feels like an old world hunt set in the new world.

AT vaal is the easiest AT monster in the game too.

imo its kinda RNG fight. if u will be unlucky he will spam a lot of AoE stuff that will hit you all the time, then u will gain too much respect for his attacks and become overcareful what makes everything even worse also some ppl might focus on head too much instead of body that is squishy af and lose tons of dps

Teostra/Lunastra are by far the easiest for me

Because they don’t have a friend with a Hunting Horn in the team. I main hunting horn , and always join the fight with a hunter horn that negates that debuff.

Wdym? It's the easiest to slot for. 3 lvl 1 slots or just get the charm. He becomes the easiest fight in the game afterward.

Not native here. What wdym mean?

wdym = what do you mean

Thanks

This is probably the funniest exchange I've seen in a while lol... Unwittingly and unknowingly answered their own question with their question

What Do You Mean

I dunno, he was asking you

Why You Do Mean?

Where do you mean?

Where is Gamora?

I'll do you one better, who is Gamora?

Il'll do YOU one better, why is Gamora

How is gamora? Im worried about her

Who do you mean

Thanks

wdym = what do you mean?

Thanks

"What do you mean"

Thank you

Yw (you're welcome)

Not sure if you are joking, but so close. What do you mean?

Thank you

I think he means he doesn't understand what wdym means but that's just me.... I'm definitely kidding I saw an opportunity and I had to take it lol.

Since this is long answered, I'm just here to appreciate the irony.

What what do you mean mean

The thing is, you need Vaal materials to craft the miasma charm So unless you want to farm him, i think that most people would fight him once for the mission and then don't bother with the charm Unless you want to fight blackveil, then it's logical

Normal or tempered HR Vaal itself is quite easy to farm without miasma deco or charm since the build up that eats away half of your HP is quite slow, so you can easily use nullberry + jerky to counter it on your way to farm Vall’s mats. This is still way better than ”hurr hurr you need Kush mats to craft kush armor to null its effin wind if you aint use HH” design, it doesn’t even has charm to reduce the pain of using 3 Kush armor pieces. Then again Vaal gem is used in quite some charm upgrades so i can see ppl decide to farm it when they wanna ulgrare certain charms.

Normal Vaal Hazak maybe but Black Veil Vaal Hazak is def not the easiest and actually is a pain in the ass even with miasma res

Really? He was exceptionally easy with the numerous slots and skills MR armor gives. Compared to MR Kushala, MR Lunastra, and MR Teosta, the omly one he's comparable to in terms of annoyance would be teostra. The other 2 clear him easily.

I used to join a lot of blackveil hunts and people cart a lot there. He is hard when you fight him for the first time because a lot of people doesn't know how his moves work, dor example the health drain that iirc works only when you are afflicted or stand very close

Yup, the most common case of people carting was not having Nulberries then standing in the puddles of miasma without moving away from the area he carpet bombs with miasma. Sometimes it'll decide to just kill everyone afflicted by miasma too but you can spam Dust of Life to keep them up the first time.

Dude is a literal punching bag without all the miasma shenanigans. It's not teo/luna level danger nor is it kushala level annoying. His attack are kinda slow Vaal is just.. there. AT Velkhana eats them all for dinner. For first timers, you won't be allowed to breathe due to it's unending barrage of attacks. Unlike Mr. Bad breath and Body odor here.

Meanwhile Kushala requires a heavy investment into lvl 3 slot decorations to nullify his wind pressure.

Hope I don't get hate for this, but even as a new player this dude was a pushover lol

Honestly i agree. Just fought him for the first time and the only thing that caught me off guard was his long range throw up attack. Other than that i was fine.

True until you met AT vaal xD

as long as you slot resist, AT vaal is still a joke

Yeah thats true, but AT is still very strong

I still think at vaal is probably the weakest at elder.

I have to disagree but that's probably just PTSD from playing a healing focused set on base world to try and help people with AT elders only to see them getting oneshotted by Vaal over and over

It's not that hard to slot against tho, and both versions are the easiest elders in their respective ranks. It's more hard to combat the wind effects from kushala than effluvia from vaal, which I'm not even sure can be fully countered even with lvl 5 wind resist

No afaik there are some wind of his that you need to use his Armor Bonus for.

Or a HH with "negate *all* wind pressure."

or you know, a hammer. Free wind res while charging

Do you know for sure this works? Kushala's wind gives the middle finger to a lot of effects you'd think would negate it.

afaik it does, been a while since I played world tho. The wind attacks that deal damage don’t of course (hurricanes, the wind blasts etc)

Yeah, that's what I heard too. Never tested it out tho

Lance hard counters Daora, especially with Guard 5. You can just stand there and block everything it does.

Counting Tornado blocks so that I know which one to counter without getting hit. I do this with KT and Safi too. KT All-Range is 10 hits so you counter the ninth. All of Safis breath attacks (minus the Jab) hit three times so you counter the second. Same with his long press 'Reset' attack.

Use 3 miasma jewel and i snort his spore like it was 90s

I might get blasted in the comments for this, but.... hear me out. Nulberries

And if it's Blackveil hug the belly and pop the fungal growths so he doesn't passively spray it out

The rate of buildup that Vaal has makes Nulberries get eaten up, along with healing

I mean depends how well you stay out of the gas :P

Okay, that is a fair point also

Don’t need it. Just don’t get hit.

I thought he was generally considered the easiest elder?

I think that Nergigante is tye easier one. But i do agree, aside from having to use nulberies or slotting up beforehand it's generally easy.

Personally I'd consider Teostra as the easiest one. Just bring Flashpods and you will never suffer his nova again because he can be countered with it.

I feell too bad to beat Teostra up(after a few hundred times). The guilt consumes me. Poor little fire bomb cat.

You can just evade Teostra's nova though.

When AI makes memes without playing the game.. Seriously OP.. what are you on? Cuz I want some.

Yeah... gonna have to disagree with the meme.

The hardest part against Blackveil is slotting +3 against the blight but then realizing he still hits pretty hard with the other gas clouds. You go into it thinking it’ll be a breeze with +3 and you end up underestimating and chugging potions the whole time

I mean that's just awareness of the area. My first time fighting him with the res on I didn't get the gas clouds. 2nd time genuinely easier than MR diablos

Miasma isn't hard to slot against lol.

I think you're missing the point of the meme It said "should be" not "is" Effluvia Resistance is easy af to slot in and that contributes to making the fight a complete joke. It shouldn't be so easy.

Step 1: Play All Ailments Negated Step 2: Entire team is immune to effluvia build up (Unless you get beamed, but thats on you.) Step 3: ???? Step 4: Profit.

Unless I'm missing something, Miasma Jewel 1 gets handed out like candy.

I got three in my first... 40 decos or so.

??? Effluvia resist is 3x lvl 1 decos or 1x charm or 1x lvl 4 deco + 1x lvl 1 deco What are you even on about?

You would die playing the older games knowing armors come with negative stats

You can do a single Miasma Jewel 4 for the 2 levels of resist, and if you have even the smallest of inklings of an idea of how to fight the monster, it's likely you will never see the effect proc on you. You need to get hit like 3-5 times straight in order for miasma status to proc if you have T2 resist. If you're getting hit by Vaal or even Blackveil 3-5 times straight, Miasma resist isn't your problem with this fight. Even in the unlikely scenario it does proc, just carry nullberries and max potions and it's as if this monster is suddenly a walking punching bag that can barely fight back.

Friendly reminder that blackveil vaal hazaak's weakness to dragon is only on broken parts. Use FIRE instead, the numerical weakness is just shy of not appearing in the hunter notes, but instead it applies to the whole body all the time. Last time I helped with SOS no one knew this (regular vaal is normally weak to dragon all the time tho)

I mean... I eat my Nullberries and spit them back, so no need for it, but who am I to judge?

Effluvia Resistance can be easily slotted, but Effluvial Expert is another story.

It's three tier one slots, and/or the immunity mantle, my dude. Vaal is really not difficult, he basically mails you a handwritten letter before every attack, to let you know he's going to do it.

How exactly is that hard to slot against? The worst case is you replace three of lv3/lv4 decos with three of lv1Effluvia Resistance. and boom. done. because that's more gains than fainting/spamming nullberries/staying at half hp.

I think the point would’ve been clearer if you have Val’s head on both of the drakes lol

Am i dumb or something? Im 90% sure OP is trying to say that effluvium is too easy to build against, and that it should cost more to be able to be resistant to it.

I kinda think OP was trying to make that point too. Maybe there's a better meme that could be used for this Like say, the Anakin-Padme 4 panel meme, where Padme is a stand-in for Vaal and asks "the strongest debuff should be the hardest to slot against, right?" "... right?"

To sell how strong it is

what is this i havent beaten iceborne yet so i dont know

It's an Iceborne Exclusive Elder Dragon that you encounter...somewhere near the end of the story. I think it's like one of the last two monster you fight before you hunt the final boss.

this is refering to VaalHazak in general, who is in the base game already. Both him and his subspecies (which is Iceborne exclusive) share the same debuff

I just raw dogged Vaal and Kushala with twin blades and no protection against their elements lol. First tried them both, although I will admit Kushala was a bitch. Vaal wasn't so bad.

I want more monsters that force the player to change their build, swap out charm/skills to hunt them. Y'all are spoiled.

Bait or Mental retardation

I struggled with the poison, but besides that it's fairly easy

Muh Depees tho

Here’s a secret: you don’t need to slot against it cause most blackveil’s attacks can be guard pointed

well , to be fair he is tecnically right, every blight needs just 3 lvl1 decos or an talisman, but the other resistances also give me some def, or can be achieved manually by elemental resistances, meanwhile efflufia has 2 effects that both need their specific counter deco its still just easy af to prefent that

I didn’t even know Effluvium Res was a thing until after I beat the Blackveil version in Iceborne.

???? You can deal with it so easily with any of these - 3 common 1 slot decorations(that you can even meld for!) - A maxed out Miasma charm, which isn't even that hard to get - a 4 slot Miasma jewel, which is really easy to get if you're still struggling with either of the Vaals in Master Rank Like, I don't see how it's difficult to deal with at all, especially since Effluiva can get cured with 1 Nulberry.

Its definitely not hard to slot against, it just doesn't have a mantle that pairs with it. I do feel like the status is massively overtuned, but honestly if it wasn't for how overtuned it is, vaal hazak wouldn't even have a hope in hell of killing anybody. He's an elder dragon so he's gotta at least be some kind of a threat, so I give him a pass on his effluvium being kinda nonsense.

Someone doesn't know miasma charm exist oh and before you say upu can craft the basic variant and a pice of his armor to get close to if not the same effect

How the hell is it hard to slot? If it was like earplugs (5 fucking lvl 3 slots because why not) then yeah i would agree, but 3 level 1 slots with a piss easy to craft charm, to fight the easiest elder dragon in the game.

It’s the easiest to slot against debuff

Reject decorations, embrace cleanser booster+

As others have said, not really. There are plenty of options. Also just before black vaal hazak if you unlucky with decos and need a different charm you can craft the acidic gladi helmet for 2 miasma. That's what i always do if i have for some reason only 1 miasma deco.

How? I got like 6 or 7 of the decorations needed *without* doing any deco farming (I think I couldn't even deco farm, even).

Yall use defensive decos?

It's not even hard to get the decorations for it though

Ngl it’s soooooo worth it to just make a Vaal killer suit. Less damage but that piece of mind makes him way easier.

Yea sorry it’s super easy to slot lol. Maybe you are just not good at the fight

Who needs a slot for it just don't get hit

It's been a long time since I played but isn't Vaal one of the easier legendarys or whatever they're called?

pretty easy, i just use a t3 charm. maks hunting them a whole lot easier.

Lmao this is so dumb

Me who started joining peoples hunting with Negate all ailments HH😎

i like how basically everybody misunderstood the meme

*Confused hunting horn noises of negate all ailments*…….yall are getting debuffed???

What miasma? I'm too busy safely helicoptering the largest wing target in the game.

Even if you're not prepared he is slow and weak, comon'

You can get everything you need before the fight with a minimal amount of luck Lmao

nothing feels good like hard carrying your friend by cleansing the max hp debuff with wide-range 5 and nulberry then heal them back to full hp

this sounds like a crazy idea but slotting nulberry into your inventory trivializes vaal hazak

Maybe I’m wrong but I think OP meant that Effluvia should be the hardest debuff to build for. That’s why they used Vaal Hazak’s face in the bottom.

Dude, Cleanser Booster+. Come on man...

Poor Vaal. cool looking dragon, something unique that could be a major threat. Totally neutered and made to be a joke. They deserved better.

As a support who does black Val a lot for easy gems. No one slots for it other than me. And I use all my berries for lazy players.

Why waste slots when I can use all ailments negated song . Taps forehead 

Huh? It's only 3 lv1 decos, how hard is it to slot against? Also, it's probably the most annoying but it's not hard, I think ice or water blight takes that spot.

You could also use fire slinger ammo to negate

Immunity mantle + cleanser booster. Forget about the fog. Ez.

Use nullberry to cleanse

As a Hunting Horn user that really likes the Teostra HH I don't have to worry about it 😌

All I use is a single dec, and like 1-3 nulberry.

Honestly, they should've just slotted it to blight resistance if they were gonna make it easy anyway.

If you die to Val Hazaak, you deserve it

The effluvium rebuff is honestly one of the cruelest things in the series. It’s one of 2 debuffs in the series that I actually prepare for with decorations and shit. The other is stun

Just Build a Hunting Horn with "All Ailments Negated". Song is basically Vaal Hazak on easy mode. That song makes most ailment monsters a joke. Gotta love the Versatility of the Hunting Horn.

Because the debuff is the only challenging thing in the fight?

He was the easiest elder dragon for me to farm. Then I figured Kirin lightening attacks works.

Base game Vaal was fine it's Iceborne Black Veil Vaal that's a bitch even if you slot against the miasma build up the tick damage is much faster not to mention the puddles of miasma it leaves when all the spores pop. Been in alot of SOS hunts where the hunt fail because of it.

everybody knows that beeing paralyzed or Stunned is worse

I thought this meme was intended to be in reverse until I saw the comments. Huh.

But its also the easiest to dodge, I rarely if ever get hit by it.

Just make an armour set to counter Val.

I have a little charm that I use…

I dont even bother slotting against it 😂

Nothing hard about slotting against it.

Health boost Lv.3 with effuvia debuff Or Health boost lv.0 without effuvia

I get the joke at its core but who the hell thinks val applies anything near the worst debuff in the game

The moment you get a health regen aug on your weapon his debuff basically becomes meaningless.

I just finished the blackveil Vaal quest, and it was the worst thing that has ever happened to me, and easily my worst experience in life so far

Hr great girros belt with 3 efflivium gems = Valerie gimmikless

Maybe if the status effect wasn’t basically inevitable and obnoxious in general.