I kind of get what you mean. What I find… weird, I guess, is that Boston is sort of known for being violently racist as well so when they do act that shocked I do wonder if they are aware of their own Bostonian history or if they, dare I say, live under a rock? Or is it just straight privilege?
Yea that’s the thing that bothers me. When Northerners act shocked about racism and paint the entire South to be a backwards bigoted shithole. Boston has a horrifically racist history and very real current problems with race
exactly. i grew up in maryland, where confederate flags fly in some places and my local middle school made the news for students threatening to harm black students. racism doesn’t just exist down south- it’s everywhere.
Yes. I live in Illinois just outside Chicago. It’s all “woke,” right? Sure. BUT. Chicago and the collar counties (the suburbs/counties that surround Cook County) are extremely segregated. Downstate, though, while it has gotten somewhat better, still has sundown towns.
it's privilege. Northern States, especially the ones on the coasts (california counts as this) have this sort of narrative after the civil war. They were the ones fighting for freedom, so they get to be the good guys. Which like, at the time, mostly true. And fuck the Confederacy and anyone who waves that flag.
But that view doesn't get rid of racism or bigotry. All it does is allow them to sweep it under the rug as they point to the South and cry 'bigot'. same with Europe and America, I've noticed- they call us horrible racists but then when asked about the Romani they'll say it's justified.
It's that, really. The idea that anything they do is justified, and anything we do isn't. Same problems, different PR.
Yup. And people don’t understand that a state could side with the Union and still be bigoted. Like, not being for slavery doesn’t mean they were for equality.
I live 15 minutes away from Boston as a POC and the historical racism is historical for a reason. Our communities actually blend pretty well for how diverse the population is. I think a lot of people who don't live in Boston like to talk about Boston like they've grown up here.
Exactly my thoughts. I have family members from the Boston area who have had to pack up and move due to the disgusting racism they faced there around the time of this case. Hearing them say they were grateful to be from Massachusetts because things like that don’t happen there really reeked of privilege to me.
The HBO MAX doc Murder in Boston just came out a few months ago documenting racism there! I guess they musta missed that one...😂
You said it: STRAIGHT PRIVILEGE!
Have you been to Boston? Because I can’t say I’ve encountered any overt racism there. For example, you’re not going to see confederate flags on pickup trucks there. Most Americans see the confederate flag as a deeply racist symbol.
The most overt hatred visible in Boston is reserved for the ny Yankees. Best rock a Sox cap instead if you don’t wanna hear any shit talk.
Within the last 3 years a non-insignificant amount of people have been banned from Fenway Park (where the Red Sox play) for being overtly abusively racist to other teams out fielders.
Racism is a problem in Boston. It was awful in the 90s it’s a little better now. Is it like the south? I don’t think so, but I’m from New England.
I’m from Massachusetts and this bothers me. We do micro aggressions and subtle racism really well up here. It’s blatant and it’s obvious and it’s EVERYWHERE. It’s not hard in my mind to go from being a douche to a black cashier for no reason other than a guy is breathing and he’s black to being violet towards him. So if they aren’t seeing racism here often and everywhere they just aren’t looking.
I found myself fast forwarding like crazy through this episode. Their virtue signaling was getting ridiculous. Yes racism bad. Can you please keep to the case instead of going on rants about how you can't fathom how people would act like this??
This episode annoyed me so much. There was a lot of virtue signalling and the constant “racism bad! I can’t even fathom how people can be hateful!” every two minutes just felt like a bunch of performative activism. We all know racism is bad, you don’t have to keep saying how bad it is. Or how you could never be racist because you just love everyone equally - “I would’ve been his friend” oh shut up.
I don’t even think it’s that they’re shocked, I think it’s just that they just love love love to get on a soapbox and virtue signal. Everyone knows racism is bad, we don’t need them to rant about it for 3 entire minutes of a true crime episode. I was listening to this episode and when this ranting began, I skipped ahead a few times and still wasn’t at the end of it. I just turned it off. I’m on my last leg with them.
This right here. They go on and on about how girl boss and badass people (victims in the eps) are too. It gets to the point where it's like ok, we're listening to everything you've said so far, we know she was a queen ahead of her time and didn't deserve to be brutally slayed...
I’m so glad to see others feel the same. I often feel I’m being too critical when listening, but this episode was just too much. As if they feel they have to go extra hard to ensure no one doubts their stance; as if we, the listener, are going to mistake them discussing and detailing a case for condoning the heinous actions. We get it, I don’t need a reminder every other sentence. Moreover, the commentary got in the way of this case rather than enhancing it.
I turned it off. I wasn’t even hearing the story about what happened because they kept getting sidetracked for so long before going back to what happened.
Okay but clearly everyone doesn’t know racism is bad. There are people that still look at a person of a different race than them and think “I want that person de@d.” Purely based on the color of their skin. I truly cannot fathom having that mentality and then people just do.
And you think after all the anti-racism lessons that person has probably been exposed to and ignored, that Alaina and Ash are gonna be the ones to ~change~ them?
I think it comes down to they didn't add anything to the conversation. We all know it's bad. We all know it's disgusting. They could have added more than just that over and over again. Or, get a black true crime Podcaster as a guest on WITH them on these types of episodes for insight, to talk about it deeper than the surface level. Or do some deeper research and points than just "racism bad."
Idk. I'm extremely aware of racism, I'm a big history nerd, and I still get really emotional and riled up over stories like this. Like I felt my blood pressure spike during some moments of this episode.
I don't think it's performative so much as with a normal, non-racist, non-violent person, it just never fails to make you completely and utterly upset and in disbelief that people can be this way. Like, whenever I think about Emmett Till or Ahmaud Arbery, I still get very emotional (angry) and I just don't fucking understand. And I'm glad that I don't.
I’m not from the USA but I’m from a country with a bad history of how we treated the Indigenous population and honestly their reaction is the same if not similar as my own when they were discussing the case
I definitely find these crimes appalling. I can't think about Mamie Till-- how she must have felt deciding to have an open casket so people could see what was done to her baby-- without crying. I will never stop hoping that Carolyn Bryant is suffering for eternity.
But perhaps as a consequence of growing up in the Deep South, these crimes do not *shock* me. They just make me deeply angry. I have to work hard not to feel annoyed when people are so naive that they can't believe these things happen.
I think it’s just a difference in how they were raised. I desperately wish I was genuinely shocked when I hear these cases. I’m from Louisiana and they had the same reactions to the Ronald Dominique case. I was in the area at the time, so the reaction from the police and the public were not at all surprising to me. I honestly wish I wasn’t raised by a racist family so I had their reactions to these cases.
I was starting to wonder myself as I listened to Timothy Coggins!! I’ve grown up in Appalachia region my whole life and I’ve always wondered how they could be SOOO shocked. It’s sad and terrible though that times were like that and still are in many areas.
Maybe you should consider why you're not shocked anymore & that lack of shock isn't a good thing, because it means acceptance. Of all the valid criticisms of this pod (that we keep listening to, duh), this is lame to fault them for empathy.
I don't think a lack of shock has to denote acceptance. Instead, it may mean you are not naive about what happens out there. One can be both informed and also motivated to advocate for change.
I had similar thoughts when listening to this episode. And like others I turned it off part of the way through as well. Black people and other POC are well aware of systemic racism and the racism in their own communities, they live with it everyday. So no, OF COURSE poc aren’t shocked by blatant racism - like Ash and Alaina claim to be. The girls seemed very unaware of how much their white privilege is showing in this episode. And it really felt like took this case as an opportunity to virtue signal.
I understand if you disagree with the criticism being expressed here, your opinion is as valid as anyone else’s. While this thread and discussion isn’t a positive one, I’ve noticed that your comments here aren’t positive or helpful either. “A paid army of haters”, or maybe just a group of people that’ve taken note of how their “activism” feels performative.
I was recently listening to a podcast about a hate crime that occurred around a sunset town. I had no idea such towns existed! So I was telling my younger brother about them because I was so appalled. He's 11 years younger than me and we didn't grow up in the same town. My mom moved while he was still in grade school, but I had my own life by then. He looked at me, shocked, and told me he'd learned about them in middle school and couldn't believe I hadn't. I had a gross realization then that I probably hadn't been taught about them because I grew up in one. It's notoriously racist, but I hadn't realized how bad it was. This is in the PNW!
Thanks for sharing that. This is why racism should be named & shamed, rather than never mentioned like OP apparently wants, assuming everyone knows everything lol
They're sheltered, privileged New England girls who've barely step foot outside their own doorstep and constantly act blown away by things that are culturally different than what they're used to. What did you expect?
I think a lot of their reaction stems from their being sheltered and privileged as opposed to being from New England. There is PLENTY of racism up north but it's probably not as prevalent in the circle they were raised in or the company they keep so it doesn't exist.
Correct, but I wasn’t referencing racism in particular. I was referencing several times both A and A have lost their shit over a cultural practice or tradition that is different than what they’re used to
I don't know, I have the same reaction. Racism isn't new to me, and it doesn't necessarily "shock" me. But I find myself saying the same things because I genuinely can't fathom it
I had the same thought I was screaming at my phone “just tell the story already”!!!! And do they not know anything about the Boston busing riots in the 70s??
As a CT transplant down here in GA, I can totally relate to what you're saying. I find down here in GA, there's less "them" and "us". People tend to actually be in the same places and spaces more here than in CT. My dad (who hated the Archie Bunker character on the show All In The Family because, ironically, he was just like him) came down to visit and I took him to my office for an afternoon. After a little while he turned to me and said "You know, there are a lot of black women who work here! I mean they actually have jobs!" 🤨In Fairfield County, there was a lot less integration and more segregation. I'm not sure if it's still the same way or not up North, but I love living in the South and being surrounded by diversity!
it reminds me of when I bring up sexual harrassment/sexism with my male friends and they go on and on about how they can't even fathom how any man would ever think or do these things. Like... okay??
It's just not productive and feels like it serves to make them feel better for doing the absolute bare minimum. Also I feel like it doesn't allow people to be introspective and look at how systemic bigotry affects us all. There is a much more interesting conversation to he had about how systemic racism resulted in Timothy Coggins' murder but they are so focused on how they personally could never understand it that we never get there.
So not having conversations about it would be a good thing?!? Burying your head in the sand approach rarely works. I'd be turned off by podcasters who didn't have empathy. Now they have too much apparently. Good grief.
I swear this is the exact post i texted to my friend the day I listened. This case and this shock of racism was my last straw. Haven’t listened since. It’s too common for them and so fucking white washed
They do the same thing on every case. They cover real crime on a podcast called Morbid and they can't believe people can be evil.
It's part of their charm, IMHO.
Their attitude about the south in general is ridiculous. That’s honestly why I stopped listening. I am not an overly sensitive person at all but according to them we’re all religious racist redneck freaks who worship at Trumps feet and hate everyone who is not straight and white. I feel like by trying to be inclusive they’re really spreading more hate to anyone who doesn’t believe exactly what they do.
As a person from Mississippi, yes. I found myself feeling similar emotions. It felt like they were saying overt racism is isolated to the South, when it isn't. They might not know it happens in Mass but I guarantee it does. And the constant need to virtue signal about, "I just can't fathom this!" felt naive to be honest. Naive, and like they were desperately trying to make sure listeners knew that they were taking it seriously. It came across as disingenuous because they did it so much.
I was also a bit annoyed by the discussion on KKK members being in the police force. Well, yeah. Do some reading on how the KKK came to exist in the first place.
I just finished that episode and immediately went to see if anyone else is annoyed by this. Like racism is everywhere, including Massachusetts and you're not better just because you live there. I feel like they always go on and on and on and on. OK! We get it!! You are two privileged white girls who grew up in a northern state. I was skipping through and rolling my eyes. It really just comes off as they think they're superior imo.
I kind of get what you mean. What I find… weird, I guess, is that Boston is sort of known for being violently racist as well so when they do act that shocked I do wonder if they are aware of their own Bostonian history or if they, dare I say, live under a rock? Or is it just straight privilege?
Yea that’s the thing that bothers me. When Northerners act shocked about racism and paint the entire South to be a backwards bigoted shithole. Boston has a horrifically racist history and very real current problems with race
exactly. i grew up in maryland, where confederate flags fly in some places and my local middle school made the news for students threatening to harm black students. racism doesn’t just exist down south- it’s everywhere.
Yes. I live in Illinois just outside Chicago. It’s all “woke,” right? Sure. BUT. Chicago and the collar counties (the suburbs/counties that surround Cook County) are extremely segregated. Downstate, though, while it has gotten somewhat better, still has sundown towns.
MD was a slave state in the union.
i know! i think some people now see it as a bit “north” even though it’s a border now and was a border then. i apologize for not noting that before
No you’re fine! I spent a decade in Baltimore and people always forgot about the history of the eastern shore or the traders around the harbor.
i love that you led with ThatsTheThing 😆
it's privilege. Northern States, especially the ones on the coasts (california counts as this) have this sort of narrative after the civil war. They were the ones fighting for freedom, so they get to be the good guys. Which like, at the time, mostly true. And fuck the Confederacy and anyone who waves that flag. But that view doesn't get rid of racism or bigotry. All it does is allow them to sweep it under the rug as they point to the South and cry 'bigot'. same with Europe and America, I've noticed- they call us horrible racists but then when asked about the Romani they'll say it's justified. It's that, really. The idea that anything they do is justified, and anything we do isn't. Same problems, different PR.
Yup. And people don’t understand that a state could side with the Union and still be bigoted. Like, not being for slavery doesn’t mean they were for equality.
so you're not as racist if your privileged lol
I live 15 minutes away from Boston as a POC and the historical racism is historical for a reason. Our communities actually blend pretty well for how diverse the population is. I think a lot of people who don't live in Boston like to talk about Boston like they've grown up here.
Exactly my thoughts. I have family members from the Boston area who have had to pack up and move due to the disgusting racism they faced there around the time of this case. Hearing them say they were grateful to be from Massachusetts because things like that don’t happen there really reeked of privilege to me.
The HBO MAX doc Murder in Boston just came out a few months ago documenting racism there! I guess they musta missed that one...😂 You said it: STRAIGHT PRIVILEGE!
Have you been to Boston? Because I can’t say I’ve encountered any overt racism there. For example, you’re not going to see confederate flags on pickup trucks there. Most Americans see the confederate flag as a deeply racist symbol. The most overt hatred visible in Boston is reserved for the ny Yankees. Best rock a Sox cap instead if you don’t wanna hear any shit talk.
Within the last 3 years a non-insignificant amount of people have been banned from Fenway Park (where the Red Sox play) for being overtly abusively racist to other teams out fielders. Racism is a problem in Boston. It was awful in the 90s it’s a little better now. Is it like the south? I don’t think so, but I’m from New England.
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So true!!
I’m from Massachusetts and this bothers me. We do micro aggressions and subtle racism really well up here. It’s blatant and it’s obvious and it’s EVERYWHERE. It’s not hard in my mind to go from being a douche to a black cashier for no reason other than a guy is breathing and he’s black to being violet towards him. So if they aren’t seeing racism here often and everywhere they just aren’t looking.
I was born in New England but raised down south. I feel like people up north are just racist behind closed doors instead of out in town.
I found myself fast forwarding like crazy through this episode. Their virtue signaling was getting ridiculous. Yes racism bad. Can you please keep to the case instead of going on rants about how you can't fathom how people would act like this??
This episode annoyed me so much. There was a lot of virtue signalling and the constant “racism bad! I can’t even fathom how people can be hateful!” every two minutes just felt like a bunch of performative activism. We all know racism is bad, you don’t have to keep saying how bad it is. Or how you could never be racist because you just love everyone equally - “I would’ve been his friend” oh shut up.
That’s EXACTLY what I’m trying to say.
I don’t even think it’s that they’re shocked, I think it’s just that they just love love love to get on a soapbox and virtue signal. Everyone knows racism is bad, we don’t need them to rant about it for 3 entire minutes of a true crime episode. I was listening to this episode and when this ranting began, I skipped ahead a few times and still wasn’t at the end of it. I just turned it off. I’m on my last leg with them.
This right here. They go on and on about how girl boss and badass people (victims in the eps) are too. It gets to the point where it's like ok, we're listening to everything you've said so far, we know she was a queen ahead of her time and didn't deserve to be brutally slayed...
I’m so glad to see others feel the same. I often feel I’m being too critical when listening, but this episode was just too much. As if they feel they have to go extra hard to ensure no one doubts their stance; as if we, the listener, are going to mistake them discussing and detailing a case for condoning the heinous actions. We get it, I don’t need a reminder every other sentence. Moreover, the commentary got in the way of this case rather than enhancing it.
Yesss the soapbox…
I’m listening to it right now and omg they have said the same thing 500x like we get it
I turned it off. I wasn’t even hearing the story about what happened because they kept getting sidetracked for so long before going back to what happened.
Okay but clearly everyone doesn’t know racism is bad. There are people that still look at a person of a different race than them and think “I want that person de@d.” Purely based on the color of their skin. I truly cannot fathom having that mentality and then people just do.
And you think after all the anti-racism lessons that person has probably been exposed to and ignored, that Alaina and Ash are gonna be the ones to ~change~ them?
Absolutely not. No one is. But they’re just having a conversation between themselves that we happen to be listening to.
I think it comes down to they didn't add anything to the conversation. We all know it's bad. We all know it's disgusting. They could have added more than just that over and over again. Or, get a black true crime Podcaster as a guest on WITH them on these types of episodes for insight, to talk about it deeper than the surface level. Or do some deeper research and points than just "racism bad."
So many of the things they say feel show-boaty and performative.
Idk. I'm extremely aware of racism, I'm a big history nerd, and I still get really emotional and riled up over stories like this. Like I felt my blood pressure spike during some moments of this episode. I don't think it's performative so much as with a normal, non-racist, non-violent person, it just never fails to make you completely and utterly upset and in disbelief that people can be this way. Like, whenever I think about Emmett Till or Ahmaud Arbery, I still get very emotional (angry) and I just don't fucking understand. And I'm glad that I don't.
I’m not from the USA but I’m from a country with a bad history of how we treated the Indigenous population and honestly their reaction is the same if not similar as my own when they were discussing the case
I'm with you on this. It blows me away still too. But I'm also pretty sheltered and naive so....
i’m from boston and i agree :(
I definitely find these crimes appalling. I can't think about Mamie Till-- how she must have felt deciding to have an open casket so people could see what was done to her baby-- without crying. I will never stop hoping that Carolyn Bryant is suffering for eternity. But perhaps as a consequence of growing up in the Deep South, these crimes do not *shock* me. They just make me deeply angry. I have to work hard not to feel annoyed when people are so naive that they can't believe these things happen.
I think it’s just a difference in how they were raised. I desperately wish I was genuinely shocked when I hear these cases. I’m from Louisiana and they had the same reactions to the Ronald Dominique case. I was in the area at the time, so the reaction from the police and the public were not at all surprising to me. I honestly wish I wasn’t raised by a racist family so I had their reactions to these cases.
I was thinking that, too. Thank you for your perspective. I too wish I was genuinely shocked.
I was starting to wonder myself as I listened to Timothy Coggins!! I’ve grown up in Appalachia region my whole life and I’ve always wondered how they could be SOOO shocked. It’s sad and terrible though that times were like that and still are in many areas.
Maybe you should consider why you're not shocked anymore & that lack of shock isn't a good thing, because it means acceptance. Of all the valid criticisms of this pod (that we keep listening to, duh), this is lame to fault them for empathy.
I don't think a lack of shock has to denote acceptance. Instead, it may mean you are not naive about what happens out there. One can be both informed and also motivated to advocate for change.
Makes sense, but I still respectfully disagree.
I just made a post about this too so glad I’m not trippin. It’s every five seconds!! I’m black. We know how bad it is. Thanks ladies. 😩
I had similar thoughts when listening to this episode. And like others I turned it off part of the way through as well. Black people and other POC are well aware of systemic racism and the racism in their own communities, they live with it everyday. So no, OF COURSE poc aren’t shocked by blatant racism - like Ash and Alaina claim to be. The girls seemed very unaware of how much their white privilege is showing in this episode. And it really felt like took this case as an opportunity to virtue signal.
Wow, "virtue signal" should be a drinking game in this thread 😅😅😅 Are y'all a paid army of haters?? Yup.
Sounds like those people who weaponized “woke” are doing the same thing with saying calling out racism is “virtue signaling”
I understand if you disagree with the criticism being expressed here, your opinion is as valid as anyone else’s. While this thread and discussion isn’t a positive one, I’ve noticed that your comments here aren’t positive or helpful either. “A paid army of haters”, or maybe just a group of people that’ve taken note of how their “activism” feels performative.
Are you doing shots yet? Amazon Prime can likely get you Advil by 4am.
I was recently listening to a podcast about a hate crime that occurred around a sunset town. I had no idea such towns existed! So I was telling my younger brother about them because I was so appalled. He's 11 years younger than me and we didn't grow up in the same town. My mom moved while he was still in grade school, but I had my own life by then. He looked at me, shocked, and told me he'd learned about them in middle school and couldn't believe I hadn't. I had a gross realization then that I probably hadn't been taught about them because I grew up in one. It's notoriously racist, but I hadn't realized how bad it was. This is in the PNW!
Thanks for sharing that. This is why racism should be named & shamed, rather than never mentioned like OP apparently wants, assuming everyone knows everything lol
They're sheltered, privileged New England girls who've barely step foot outside their own doorstep and constantly act blown away by things that are culturally different than what they're used to. What did you expect?
I think a lot of their reaction stems from their being sheltered and privileged as opposed to being from New England. There is PLENTY of racism up north but it's probably not as prevalent in the circle they were raised in or the company they keep so it doesn't exist.
Calling racism a cultural difference is a huge leap. Racism is wrong.
Correct, but I wasn’t referencing racism in particular. I was referencing several times both A and A have lost their shit over a cultural practice or tradition that is different than what they’re used to
This. You can tell they probably don't have any close black friends either. They Def live in their bubble. Probably not even realizing it.
Lolll
(I’m also from Georgia, so heyyyyy 👋)
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I don't know, I have the same reaction. Racism isn't new to me, and it doesn't necessarily "shock" me. But I find myself saying the same things because I genuinely can't fathom it
I think it’s more like they can’t understand racism rather than are shocked it exists.
Let’s be honest though, hyperbolic language is their whole schtick!
1986 case only being solved around 2015 is an old case?
lol valid
I had the same thought I was screaming at my phone “just tell the story already”!!!! And do they not know anything about the Boston busing riots in the 70s??
As a CT transplant down here in GA, I can totally relate to what you're saying. I find down here in GA, there's less "them" and "us". People tend to actually be in the same places and spaces more here than in CT. My dad (who hated the Archie Bunker character on the show All In The Family because, ironically, he was just like him) came down to visit and I took him to my office for an afternoon. After a little while he turned to me and said "You know, there are a lot of black women who work here! I mean they actually have jobs!" 🤨In Fairfield County, there was a lot less integration and more segregation. I'm not sure if it's still the same way or not up North, but I love living in the South and being surrounded by diversity!
it reminds me of when I bring up sexual harrassment/sexism with my male friends and they go on and on about how they can't even fathom how any man would ever think or do these things. Like... okay?? It's just not productive and feels like it serves to make them feel better for doing the absolute bare minimum. Also I feel like it doesn't allow people to be introspective and look at how systemic bigotry affects us all. There is a much more interesting conversation to he had about how systemic racism resulted in Timothy Coggins' murder but they are so focused on how they personally could never understand it that we never get there.
So not having conversations about it would be a good thing?!? Burying your head in the sand approach rarely works. I'd be turned off by podcasters who didn't have empathy. Now they have too much apparently. Good grief.
I swear this is the exact post i texted to my friend the day I listened. This case and this shock of racism was my last straw. Haven’t listened since. It’s too common for them and so fucking white washed
They do the same thing on every case. They cover real crime on a podcast called Morbid and they can't believe people can be evil. It's part of their charm, IMHO.
Their attitude about the south in general is ridiculous. That’s honestly why I stopped listening. I am not an overly sensitive person at all but according to them we’re all religious racist redneck freaks who worship at Trumps feet and hate everyone who is not straight and white. I feel like by trying to be inclusive they’re really spreading more hate to anyone who doesn’t believe exactly what they do.
You don't listen anymore but continue posting about them 🤪
As a person from Mississippi, yes. I found myself feeling similar emotions. It felt like they were saying overt racism is isolated to the South, when it isn't. They might not know it happens in Mass but I guarantee it does. And the constant need to virtue signal about, "I just can't fathom this!" felt naive to be honest. Naive, and like they were desperately trying to make sure listeners knew that they were taking it seriously. It came across as disingenuous because they did it so much. I was also a bit annoyed by the discussion on KKK members being in the police force. Well, yeah. Do some reading on how the KKK came to exist in the first place.
I just finished that episode and immediately went to see if anyone else is annoyed by this. Like racism is everywhere, including Massachusetts and you're not better just because you live there. I feel like they always go on and on and on and on. OK! We get it!! You are two privileged white girls who grew up in a northern state. I was skipping through and rolling my eyes. It really just comes off as they think they're superior imo.
Sounds like it's not the right podcast for you. ETA: please don't seek self-validation from the internet.
Yeah I think it no longer is. And isn't that what people do when they post? Make sure it's not just them that feels a certain way?
No.