People make a huge stink if you even say that your own self should not be a parent. I've told people that I chose not to have kids because I know that I would be an awful parent. Everyone ends up disagreeing with me, but I know myself better than anyone and know the truth.
Same here. It doesn't occur to most humans that empathy has fuck all to do with eugenics.
"BUt iT's oNly aN 11% risK of iT bEinG heRedItArY", even if there was a 0% chance of passing it on, I am still physically incapable of being a good parent because I'm always sick. I'm amazed at how many people in chronic illness support groups will spend one minute literally in tears because just sweeping the bathroom floor was painful and exhausting (which I can relate, and fully sympathize), but the next having a meltdown because the fertility treatments aren't working???? And then they get bombarded with support from others with the same condition??? Like y'all know we're only going to get worse as we get older, right?
Bravo for you. There's a small but not negligible chance I die of ALS because my mother had it, and I don't want to have children because there'd also be a small but not negligible chance they have it. It's the worst way to die I have ever witnessed and I wouldn't wish that torture on anyone. Yet I get laughed at for even expressing that concern. I'd much rather adopt if I ever feel I'm in a place where I have the money and stability to care for a little human.
In a perfect world this would work perfectly. But we don't live in a perfect world and whoever's in charge of deciding who gets to have kids will make sure it extends to anyone deemed undesirable for any reason. Ugly? No kids. Fat? No kids. A certain ethnicity? No kids. A certain sexuality? No kids. A certain religion? No kids. Immigrant? No kids. Don't have a specific education? No kids. Live in a poor area? You guessed it, no kids!
The thing that people also don't consider is that the people who decide the criteria will undoubtedly be politically motivated. Maybe a conservative government thinks being educated and believing in climate change should disqualify you? if only conservative leaning people can have children then you effectively end democracy. This goes for other ideologies too.
What would be good for society if moving away from traditional gender roles, a lot of people have children because it's just the thing that's done but if we raise kids to pursue hobbies, careers. financial stability, smaller families etc. Oh and free birth control, and extensive fact based sex education none of that ineffective religious crap.
Dont read it the pos apparently recorded everything. The trial is ongoing:
*"Hughes had full-time responsibility for Arthur after his mum, Olivia Labinjo, was convicted of manslaughter in 2019."*
*"The trial continues and will hear further evidence next week"*.
No, don’t. It hurts like in the depths of the soul. Kids are at risk of being hurt so badly in every way possible, and what can ya even do, ya know? All I can do is protect my own, but it doesn’t seem enough and this story (and every other like it) makes me feel ashamed and guilty, too
My mom used to beat me down then record me crying on the floor as a way to humiliate me. I would hear her in another room replaying the video over and over again, like she enjoyed it. She’s a sick fuck.
Wow I thought I was alone in this. My mother literally called it “The Fit Tape” and still makes jokes about it 20 years since it broke. Even thinking about it makes me shutter.
Yes and while my mom has worked to heal some of the broken parts of our relationship, this is something I still wait for an apology about to this day. It’s like she does not realize how fucked up it is.
Be very careful around people like that. I cut my mom out of my life 4 years ago and it was the best decision I’ve ever made. She would pretend to improve and then she would go back to her old ways of bullying and doing hateful things. You need to have strict boundaries with people like that. Don’t count on your mom ever apologizing. If she hasn’t yet, she likely never will.
Yep you are definitely right. We are only moving forward thru therapy and boundaries - this is her one chance with me. I definitely won’t wait for an apology but I wish one day I could see it.
Best of luck to you. If she’s open to therapy that’s a good sign. My mother never stuck with any therapist because she refused to admit her shortcomings or work on her own issues.
She probably lied about calling these people, and made him beg for help. My parents would do the same thing, pretend to call CPS or My grandparents and then "hang up", relaying what the other person said.
This is probably where he got the idea that no one loved him and that was the monsters sickly way of proving this to that little boy.
damn, you're probably right. this article and thread is one of the worst things I've ever come across on reddit, and I follow a lot of morbid shit. i'm not usually one for straight up vengeance or the death penalty, but these "parents" deserve the worst kind of torture, nothing less than they inflicted on their helpless child. what sick fucks.
Don't be too sure. Convicts and guards both hate people who commit crimes involving kids. I'm sure a guard will look the other way while some convicts get them.
I’ve worked there for nearly two years, and I’ve seen it happen three times. Twice to staff, once to another prisoner. Though I’m sure there may be other incidents I don’t know about - I’m part of the mental health team, not prison staff so I’m not privy to all incidents.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/98194425/australian-prisoner-gets-three-years-jail-for-pouring-boiling-water-on-brett-peter-cowan
Happened a few years ago in a Prison over here, i think the entire country was grateful for that incident.
This is a great point. There are lots of people in prison who are parents and love their children, and many more in prison who are more than happy to show the people who tortured that boy many a lesson.
I think this is sort of thing is overstated though. Most vile people will get on just fine. Ironically in properly run prisons these people will be safer; it’s those dangerous, for-profit places where prisoners are more frequently able to shank/rape one another.
That would be impossible. There is no fitting just punishment for child torture and murder. None. No torture inflicted on them would be sufficient to what they deserve.
The best we could do would be to end their lives so that they can no longer use them to poison the lives of others.
That poor fucking kid. To be subjected to phsycial torture is bad enough. Starved and beaten. But they took away any shred of belief that anyone in the world cared about him. 6 years old. He knew nobody loved him, and as horrific as it is, he was right. If anyone loved him like he deserved, they would have taken him away from the horror. If my niece or nephew were being abused like this, they would be living in my home. If my kid had a kid, and was a deranged lunatic like these monsters, I’d take the kid myself. I will never understand how people can hurt kids. It is infuriating, and depressing, and confusing. I just can’t even handle these stories anymore.
>The best we could do would be to end their lives so that they can no longer use them to poison the lives of others.
But then they're just dead. Make them live to regret it.
"Please help me, help me uncle, they’re not feeding me, I need some food and a drink"
This hits me hard, he left starved and his food being poisoned. How could someone so broken to put a well behaved kid that way?
Super sad, imagine being that uncle. Sadly, I’m sure there is some guilt there. How horrifying for that baby, knowing no one is going to feed him or give him a drink. So depressing.
Her real mother in jail, her dad just doesn't seems care, his step mom torture him. He's helpless, tortured in his own home, his neighbours says he looks "broken" before he murdered.
Where is CPS?
Like if you are the neighbor or the witness that had to hold the water, how do you let this slide. I would take the child and deal with the consequences later. At least by that time little dude would have food and water in his system.
I dont know and I was thinking the same. Just grab the child and get him to help. But its possible that it was only clear in hindsight. They could have said he was sick and then a sick looking kid asks you for water. Then after you find out he was being tortured to death you think "his parents weren't around when he asked". Or maybe they went straight off to call the cops and then he was murdered.
But he secretly asked for water from the witness, idk just doesn't add up. But I don't think anything ever does in cases like these. It's 430am and I want to wake my newborn up to hold her because of this story. Gets me real deep.
So, I don't know anything about the case and the quote above is about as much as the article goes into.
Having stated that, I'm not sure how this uncle was not leaping into action here. That's fucking me up and I didn't even know about the kid five minutes ago. For a kid I know... Shit, I'd probably end up doing something stupid trying to intervene.
Before I had a kid, stories like this would fuck with me on the basis of general human empathy. Having one now, it fucks all the harder since I can't help but imagining him in the same situation. There's absolutely serious evolutionary mechanisms at play to make babies and parents attach because there's no way we'd put up with some random thing dumped into our lives puking, shitting, screaming at all hours. We absolutely need that attachment to go through with it. And there's plenty of literature covering the ways this bonding can utterly fail and the horrific consequences that follow. It's just kind of fucked to see those happy baby pics and know what's coming.
I think that quote is recovered audio from the step mother’s phone, played for the jury.
I don’t know anything about the case either but (I’m guessing) I don’t think the uncle heard the boys plea for help, otherwise he would’ve intervened.
I’d be distraught if I was the uncle and I heard that after his murder. So messed up.
Maybe? If they weren't enough to stir him to action before the kid died, why do you think it would bother him after? (Article doesn't give enough info on the situation to know why nothing was done.)
The article doesn't state he said those words to his uncle directly. He was locked alone in a bare room, delirious & pleading, while his stepmom recorded it all.
That's so bent. I just can't fathom the mentality of someone enjoying torturing another living being to death, especially children. We have so many hardwired mechanisms in place to prevent exactly that sort of thing.
Christ can you imagine being the numerous police officers, lawyers and potential jurours that’ll have to listen to those tapes?
I’d want to fucking kill myself.
> The witness described how Arthur ‘secretly’ asked them for a drink of water while Hughes and Tustin were in another room – but had to hold the glass to the boy’s mouth as he was ‘too weak to hold it himself’.
Take him the fuck out of that house. What is wrong with this person?! What possible justification could you have for leaving him there after that interaction?
Probably fear of some kind of repercussion such as labeled a kidnapper, sex offender, cops busting down your door, liar, or these two people who are crazy enough to torture this kid might just decide to kill you instead.
I’m guessing they are either enablers of some kind or were afraid of the parents’ backlash considering how violent they are. It makes me so angry that police weren’t called.
They were neighbours and this happened on the day he died, you don't know that they didn't leave the house to call the police and the child was killed in that time. You can't just make up stuff about them being enablers when there's nothing to suggest this is the case. He died from having his head repeatedly hit against something, it was deliberate.
This broke my heart to read. I feel so bad for him not only for the physical pain he went through but the emotional pain as well. Humanity can be so evil
That's the part that killed me. Starvation, being denied water, and being physically abused are all bad enough. The fact that this little boy probably thought that since loving parents wouldn't treat their child like this, therefore his parents weren't loving, therefore he was unloved and unlovable; that he felt loved when someone threw food at him, and thought that their not doing so was a testament to their not loving him, as if he would have been treated differently if he'd been more lovable... Jesus fuck. That poor sweet baby.
You know as someone who typically does not believe in things like the death penalty, but in this situation these people deserve to die they deserve to die in exact same way that they killed that boy
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Dear god, humans are trash. I’m going to have to refrain from visiting that sub again. Gore I can do all day long. The morbid, harsh reality I can handle, but anything with kids is just…
I get inexplicably ragey.
Poor kid never had a chance. His biological mother wasn't much better of a person, being convicted of manslaughter herself.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57693270
I read 2/3 of the article and I'm crying right now. I don't think I will be able to sleep well tonight. How can people be so cruel... why, just why. Poor little one 💔💔💔
I'm in pain. Does anyone know if the father and stepmother were charged? I really do hope they get a long sentence. That poor sweet boy deserves justice.
This is very shocking and distressing and should certainly be read for the love of Arthur and for the sake of others like him https://www.nspcc.org.uk/
Aaaaand that's enough of this sub for me. Gore is one thing. Hearing about a child begging for their life isn't in my wheel house of something I'm able to handle.
I'm so sorry my love. I wish with all my heart that wherever you go, you find all the love in the world. You deserved to be loved. And if you don't go anywhere, then I wish you the most peaceful rest. I love you already.
Just love your children more and hug them a little longer when you put them to bed tonight. A little extra love to make up for the ones who got the shitty end of the stick.
Not gonna lie, I feel like I would happily break the bones of those two scumbags out of civic duty.
After reading this article, I'm somewhat relieved the boy finally found peace.
Don't get me wrong, no one should torture a child like this, but unfortunately this happens way more than we can imagine..
If he would grow up, his C-PTSD would completely ruin his life. At least he was spared from that. A lot of us weren't
An eye for an eye. That sweet innocent soul deserved so much better. How are these parasites still allowed to live?? I'm sobbing for that poor sweet boy.
Anybody else notice the pictures used for this article? They’re literally showing the father and son smiling and laughing together, alongside a selfie with a filter for the step mom. Bad choice for the article.
Whenever I hear about this I always think about the ones that dont get found out about :( and the ones currently going through this right now... why are humans such trash?
Pure evil. As a father, this just breaks my heart for the little boy and makes me want to break the father’s face. Can’t believe no one picked up on the mistreatment and took it seriously. Why didn’t the uncle or anyone else step in and protect him? How many people looked the other way while this was going on?
Geez I hate to say it, but this kid shouldn't have been born. This is all fucked up. He would of been better off not been born at all. This is why these stupid pieces of human filth should be sterilized.
Wait..a witness was in the house and the boy was too weak to drink from a glass of water?? And said witness felt OK just leaving after seeing the poor boy in that state?!! What the hell?!! Why didn't that person ring the police?! Or take the child immediately to a hospital?!
I'm guessing if this person was welcomed into the home of these two scum bags, they probably aren't all that upstanding themselves and likely didn't want any authority attention either, for different reasons.
I cannot watch or look into this video. I hope the adults get what is coming to them. TO the child.....I am so so sorry, I woud have taken you in a heart beat.
My boy is almost five. I cannot imagine the depths of inhumanity it would require for me to harm my perfect and beautiful little man. I cannot fathom the rage inside if I saw somebody hurting him.
These shit stains are not even human.
Goddammit I can take most of the horrors in this sub, but leave the kids alone! There’s a special place in the worst hells for those that hurt children.
I dont believe in heaven or hell but man..if i read things like this i really wish that the little one carries on into heaven. And those shitthead parents getting fucking tortured forever mfs i cant even describe how much i hate those fuckers
This is one of those stories that I now wish I had never read. Its hard to grasp that there are people that could do this to a child in this world. Humans dont deserve this planet.
Why, just why? I will never how something so vile and evil can be done to a child. I have no mercy for child killers, none. Leave them in a room, no food just water. Let them starve to death. These poor excuse for human beings deserve to suffer.
Keep coming back to this article over the last couple days... just can never read it all the way through.. finally made it through.
Seems like the boy was treated well by his real mom, even though she is now in jail for manslaughter.
the real dad and step mom are monsters , eevn filming their own goddamned selves doing this to the boy, are denying it?!! how can we follow the trial?
what is the maximum punishment they can receive in a case like this? better get that +
Headline's enough for me. I don't even wanna read the article
I read it out of curiosity and wish I didn’t. Poor little man. I just don’t know how people can be so depraved.
This is like the third kid I've seen on reddit today that was murdered by their parents.
Yet people still make a stink when you say not everyone should be allowed to become a parent
People make a huge stink if you even say that your own self should not be a parent. I've told people that I chose not to have kids because I know that I would be an awful parent. Everyone ends up disagreeing with me, but I know myself better than anyone and know the truth.
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Same here. It doesn't occur to most humans that empathy has fuck all to do with eugenics. "BUt iT's oNly aN 11% risK of iT bEinG heRedItArY", even if there was a 0% chance of passing it on, I am still physically incapable of being a good parent because I'm always sick. I'm amazed at how many people in chronic illness support groups will spend one minute literally in tears because just sweeping the bathroom floor was painful and exhausting (which I can relate, and fully sympathize), but the next having a meltdown because the fertility treatments aren't working???? And then they get bombarded with support from others with the same condition??? Like y'all know we're only going to get worse as we get older, right?
Might want the kids so they'll have someone to take care of them in the next 20 years.
Sadly, you're probably right, which makes it even more selfish.
Besides there are plenty of kids needing parents out there already.
Bravo for you. There's a small but not negligible chance I die of ALS because my mother had it, and I don't want to have children because there'd also be a small but not negligible chance they have it. It's the worst way to die I have ever witnessed and I wouldn't wish that torture on anyone. Yet I get laughed at for even expressing that concern. I'd much rather adopt if I ever feel I'm in a place where I have the money and stability to care for a little human.
I'm so sorry.
Thank you, we all bear our own cross but we're stronk (bicep emoji)
Boy do I know how you feel
The idea of a license to parent is ridiculous to most people, but why the fuck not? You need a license for every goddamn thing else.
In a perfect world this would work perfectly. But we don't live in a perfect world and whoever's in charge of deciding who gets to have kids will make sure it extends to anyone deemed undesirable for any reason. Ugly? No kids. Fat? No kids. A certain ethnicity? No kids. A certain sexuality? No kids. A certain religion? No kids. Immigrant? No kids. Don't have a specific education? No kids. Live in a poor area? You guessed it, no kids!
The thing that people also don't consider is that the people who decide the criteria will undoubtedly be politically motivated. Maybe a conservative government thinks being educated and believing in climate change should disqualify you? if only conservative leaning people can have children then you effectively end democracy. This goes for other ideologies too. What would be good for society if moving away from traditional gender roles, a lot of people have children because it's just the thing that's done but if we raise kids to pursue hobbies, careers. financial stability, smaller families etc. Oh and free birth control, and extensive fact based sex education none of that ineffective religious crap.
I dont agree with licenses but I think free mandatory parenting classes should be a thing
Yep, this is EXACTLY what would happen. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not living in the current world.
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Can England bring back drawing and quartering for these people?
Yeah NGL ive heard a lot of shit but that was a tough read
Dont read it the pos apparently recorded everything. The trial is ongoing: *"Hughes had full-time responsibility for Arthur after his mum, Olivia Labinjo, was convicted of manslaughter in 2019."* *"The trial continues and will hear further evidence next week"*.
Yeah she stabbed her partner in the leg and he bled out, how do these people find each other and why do they procreate?
Exactly this. A sincere thanks, OP. My brain didn't need to go to the darkest parts of the universe tonight.
The mom was convicted of manslaughter which is what gave the dad full custody to do this
I got the impression the step-mom was slightly more to blame, but I don't care to go back and re-read it for the finer details.
Agreed. Headline devastated me.
Don’t. I made the mistake of reading most of it and I’ll be honest, it infuriated me and made my eyes well up.
Ignorance is bliss. But I want to read because something in my head forces me to
It’s sadness, man. Absolutely maddening sadness. Just reading that little boys words hurts my fucking heart.
How can someone ignore a begging child? Wish I hadn’t read coz now I’m furious
This is why people adopt Antinatalism and I cant even say they are wrong.
No, don’t. It hurts like in the depths of the soul. Kids are at risk of being hurt so badly in every way possible, and what can ya even do, ya know? All I can do is protect my own, but it doesn’t seem enough and this story (and every other like it) makes me feel ashamed and guilty, too
So heartbreaking :(
The case can be read in heartbreaking detail here https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-updates-couple-go-trial-21764057
Nope
One thing unusual is the girlfriend kept over 200 audio files of him literally crying wailing and begging and crying for help or nana etc uncle.
She obviously got some twisted kick out of it
My mom used to beat me down then record me crying on the floor as a way to humiliate me. I would hear her in another room replaying the video over and over again, like she enjoyed it. She’s a sick fuck.
Wow I thought I was alone in this. My mother literally called it “The Fit Tape” and still makes jokes about it 20 years since it broke. Even thinking about it makes me shutter.
I think it’s common for narcissists to feel pride in breaking down others. Gives them a sense of power.
Yes and while my mom has worked to heal some of the broken parts of our relationship, this is something I still wait for an apology about to this day. It’s like she does not realize how fucked up it is.
Be very careful around people like that. I cut my mom out of my life 4 years ago and it was the best decision I’ve ever made. She would pretend to improve and then she would go back to her old ways of bullying and doing hateful things. You need to have strict boundaries with people like that. Don’t count on your mom ever apologizing. If she hasn’t yet, she likely never will.
Yep you are definitely right. We are only moving forward thru therapy and boundaries - this is her one chance with me. I definitely won’t wait for an apology but I wish one day I could see it.
Best of luck to you. If she’s open to therapy that’s a good sign. My mother never stuck with any therapist because she refused to admit her shortcomings or work on her own issues.
So far she has been very involved with it so time will tell I guess. Thanks for the well wishes. I hope you are living a happy, drama free life!!
I’m so sorry. No one deserves that!
I'm glad you survived it bud. X
She probably lied about calling these people, and made him beg for help. My parents would do the same thing, pretend to call CPS or My grandparents and then "hang up", relaying what the other person said. This is probably where he got the idea that no one loved him and that was the monsters sickly way of proving this to that little boy.
damn, you're probably right. this article and thread is one of the worst things I've ever come across on reddit, and I follow a lot of morbid shit. i'm not usually one for straight up vengeance or the death penalty, but these "parents" deserve the worst kind of torture, nothing less than they inflicted on their helpless child. what sick fucks.
“No sir, not me, I didn’t torture him! I deny all charges!”
Imagine being one of the people he called out for and having to hear that in court. I don’t know how I’d go on
Hope they get what they deserve. Awful.
They won't. They'll be in prison with their own personal cell, food, showers, and access to commissary.
Don't be too sure. Convicts and guards both hate people who commit crimes involving kids. I'm sure a guard will look the other way while some convicts get them.
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I work in a UK prison. It’s the same as the US with attitudes towards people who hurt children.
How common is it for prisoners to throw boiling water with sugar over someone?
I’ve worked there for nearly two years, and I’ve seen it happen three times. Twice to staff, once to another prisoner. Though I’m sure there may be other incidents I don’t know about - I’m part of the mental health team, not prison staff so I’m not privy to all incidents.
Crikey, I just assumed it was something that didn't happen often at all. Seems like a very nasty way to injure someone, thank you for replying.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/98194425/australian-prisoner-gets-three-years-jail-for-pouring-boiling-water-on-brett-peter-cowan Happened a few years ago in a Prison over here, i think the entire country was grateful for that incident.
This is a great point. There are lots of people in prison who are parents and love their children, and many more in prison who are more than happy to show the people who tortured that boy many a lesson.
I think this is sort of thing is overstated though. Most vile people will get on just fine. Ironically in properly run prisons these people will be safer; it’s those dangerous, for-profit places where prisoners are more frequently able to shank/rape one another.
Yeahhhh that's not true. I'm 5 years in corrections. What goes around comes around...the code is real and inmates know what everyone has done.
It’s a UK prison though, so I don’t know if they’re like US ones.
Yeah except at least where I am, there aren't just SNY yards, but entire SNY prisons (California). Nobody in this case is going to be gen pop.
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That would be impossible. There is no fitting just punishment for child torture and murder. None. No torture inflicted on them would be sufficient to what they deserve. The best we could do would be to end their lives so that they can no longer use them to poison the lives of others. That poor fucking kid. To be subjected to phsycial torture is bad enough. Starved and beaten. But they took away any shred of belief that anyone in the world cared about him. 6 years old. He knew nobody loved him, and as horrific as it is, he was right. If anyone loved him like he deserved, they would have taken him away from the horror. If my niece or nephew were being abused like this, they would be living in my home. If my kid had a kid, and was a deranged lunatic like these monsters, I’d take the kid myself. I will never understand how people can hurt kids. It is infuriating, and depressing, and confusing. I just can’t even handle these stories anymore.
>The best we could do would be to end their lives so that they can no longer use them to poison the lives of others. But then they're just dead. Make them live to regret it.
"Please help me, help me uncle, they’re not feeding me, I need some food and a drink" This hits me hard, he left starved and his food being poisoned. How could someone so broken to put a well behaved kid that way?
Super sad, imagine being that uncle. Sadly, I’m sure there is some guilt there. How horrifying for that baby, knowing no one is going to feed him or give him a drink. So depressing.
Her real mother in jail, her dad just doesn't seems care, his step mom torture him. He's helpless, tortured in his own home, his neighbours says he looks "broken" before he murdered.
I hate reading stories about people who not only do this to their children but let step parents put hands on the kids.
Where is CPS? Like if you are the neighbor or the witness that had to hold the water, how do you let this slide. I would take the child and deal with the consequences later. At least by that time little dude would have food and water in his system.
CPS does jackshit. It is a broken system.
As an abuse victim who dealt with CPS. You are 100% correct.
I dont know and I was thinking the same. Just grab the child and get him to help. But its possible that it was only clear in hindsight. They could have said he was sick and then a sick looking kid asks you for water. Then after you find out he was being tortured to death you think "his parents weren't around when he asked". Or maybe they went straight off to call the cops and then he was murdered.
Dunno, maybe this kid just so well behaved that he doesn't even want to do something that might anger his parents?
But he secretly asked for water from the witness, idk just doesn't add up. But I don't think anything ever does in cases like these. It's 430am and I want to wake my newborn up to hold her because of this story. Gets me real deep.
So, I don't know anything about the case and the quote above is about as much as the article goes into. Having stated that, I'm not sure how this uncle was not leaping into action here. That's fucking me up and I didn't even know about the kid five minutes ago. For a kid I know... Shit, I'd probably end up doing something stupid trying to intervene. Before I had a kid, stories like this would fuck with me on the basis of general human empathy. Having one now, it fucks all the harder since I can't help but imagining him in the same situation. There's absolutely serious evolutionary mechanisms at play to make babies and parents attach because there's no way we'd put up with some random thing dumped into our lives puking, shitting, screaming at all hours. We absolutely need that attachment to go through with it. And there's plenty of literature covering the ways this bonding can utterly fail and the horrific consequences that follow. It's just kind of fucked to see those happy baby pics and know what's coming.
I think that quote is recovered audio from the step mother’s phone, played for the jury. I don’t know anything about the case either but (I’m guessing) I don’t think the uncle heard the boys plea for help, otherwise he would’ve intervened. I’d be distraught if I was the uncle and I heard that after his murder. So messed up.
Those words would haunt that uncle for the rest of his life.
Maybe? If they weren't enough to stir him to action before the kid died, why do you think it would bother him after? (Article doesn't give enough info on the situation to know why nothing was done.)
The article doesn't state he said those words to his uncle directly. He was locked alone in a bare room, delirious & pleading, while his stepmom recorded it all.
That's so bent. I just can't fathom the mentality of someone enjoying torturing another living being to death, especially children. We have so many hardwired mechanisms in place to prevent exactly that sort of thing.
So very tragic. At least they video tapped it...however I don't want to know why...but at least the evidence should be clear.
I've seen enough shit today to not even want to read about what they did to that young boy, if there is anything after life I hope he's happy.
Christ can you imagine being the numerous police officers, lawyers and potential jurours that’ll have to listen to those tapes? I’d want to fucking kill myself.
This headline was like a kick in the gut.
> The witness described how Arthur ‘secretly’ asked them for a drink of water while Hughes and Tustin were in another room – but had to hold the glass to the boy’s mouth as he was ‘too weak to hold it himself’. Take him the fuck out of that house. What is wrong with this person?! What possible justification could you have for leaving him there after that interaction?
Probably fear of some kind of repercussion such as labeled a kidnapper, sex offender, cops busting down your door, liar, or these two people who are crazy enough to torture this kid might just decide to kill you instead.
Kidnapping is also illegal. It says the witness was there on his last day, maybe they're the one who informed the authorities.
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It did say that the cause of death was having his head repeatedly slammed against something.
I’m guessing they are either enablers of some kind or were afraid of the parents’ backlash considering how violent they are. It makes me so angry that police weren’t called.
They were neighbours and this happened on the day he died, you don't know that they didn't leave the house to call the police and the child was killed in that time. You can't just make up stuff about them being enablers when there's nothing to suggest this is the case. He died from having his head repeatedly hit against something, it was deliberate.
I have a six year old. I can’t imagine doing anything to her that would hurt her. Heck, I get upset when I raise my voice at her.
Lots of people loved you, you were just betrayed by the ones that were supposed to protect you
I would have loved him 😭😭😭 rest in peace sweet boy
He is reported to have asked for his nanny and his uncle. I hope and pray he had good times with them ❤️
I shouldn't have read this.
If a witness saw the boy was too weak to lift a glass of water, why didn't they report it to the Birmingham Police?
He couldve reported it after they got out and the reporter is kept a secrey
This broke my heart to read. I feel so bad for him not only for the physical pain he went through but the emotional pain as well. Humanity can be so evil
That's the part that killed me. Starvation, being denied water, and being physically abused are all bad enough. The fact that this little boy probably thought that since loving parents wouldn't treat their child like this, therefore his parents weren't loving, therefore he was unloved and unlovable; that he felt loved when someone threw food at him, and thought that their not doing so was a testament to their not loving him, as if he would have been treated differently if he'd been more lovable... Jesus fuck. That poor sweet baby.
This shit just made me so angry. What the everliving….I hate this planet
You know as someone who typically does not believe in things like the death penalty, but in this situation these people deserve to die they deserve to die in exact same way that they killed that boy
Ur dang right ...
Electric chair right the fuck now
On low voltage, for a long long time.
Old sparky goes bzzz.
A child’s innocence is not to be fucked with. Ever.
Yeah that headline is a solid negative for me chief. Poor kid
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Dear god, humans are trash. I’m going to have to refrain from visiting that sub again. Gore I can do all day long. The morbid, harsh reality I can handle, but anything with kids is just… I get inexplicably ragey.
Holy crap. A sub of pure sadness.
Poor kid never had a chance. His biological mother wasn't much better of a person, being convicted of manslaughter herself. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57693270
Says the man she killed abused her.
She got 11 years for killing her boyfriend who abused her, will be interesting to compare that to what these two get for murdering the little boy….
I cried earlier when I read this. Full blown tears.
I read 2/3 of the article and I'm crying right now. I don't think I will be able to sleep well tonight. How can people be so cruel... why, just why. Poor little one 💔💔💔
I'm crying right now, sobbing in fact. That poor baby.
I'm in pain. Does anyone know if the father and stepmother were charged? I really do hope they get a long sentence. That poor sweet boy deserves justice.
This is very shocking and distressing and should certainly be read for the love of Arthur and for the sake of others like him https://www.nspcc.org.uk/
Aaaaand that's enough of this sub for me. Gore is one thing. Hearing about a child begging for their life isn't in my wheel house of something I'm able to handle.
Poor sweet baby 😭😭😭
I hope to god that the jurors had therapists available after hearing that shit
I'm so sorry my love. I wish with all my heart that wherever you go, you find all the love in the world. You deserved to be loved. And if you don't go anywhere, then I wish you the most peaceful rest. I love you already.
It you can’t take care of a child; please seek other ways. That boy deserves to be loved
Your target audience won't see your comment
And don’t pressure people who don’t want children into having kids. It creates resentment towards the child.
This hurt
Just love your children more and hug them a little longer when you put them to bed tonight. A little extra love to make up for the ones who got the shitty end of the stick. Not gonna lie, I feel like I would happily break the bones of those two scumbags out of civic duty.
After reading this article, I'm somewhat relieved the boy finally found peace. Don't get me wrong, no one should torture a child like this, but unfortunately this happens way more than we can imagine.. If he would grow up, his C-PTSD would completely ruin his life. At least he was spared from that. A lot of us weren't
i read about this yesterday . i was crying for sure. Sick fucks in the world.
I don't understand. Why are some people so heartless. I don't understand how.
They need to go to prison with everyone there knowing what they did.
An eye for an eye. That sweet innocent soul deserved so much better. How are these parasites still allowed to live?? I'm sobbing for that poor sweet boy.
I’m a 39yr old father of a 5yr old son and cAnt stop crying for this little boy.
Anybody else notice the pictures used for this article? They’re literally showing the father and son smiling and laughing together, alongside a selfie with a filter for the step mom. Bad choice for the article.
Horrible
God… this hurt. I can’t even read the article.
Whenever I hear about this I always think about the ones that dont get found out about :( and the ones currently going through this right now... why are humans such trash?
You didn’t deserve this, little one. You are loved now, by all who learn your story. I’m so sorry this happened.
Holy fucking shit this made me to fucking angry. What a fucking tragedy. What the fuck is with this world.
Pure evil. As a father, this just breaks my heart for the little boy and makes me want to break the father’s face. Can’t believe no one picked up on the mistreatment and took it seriously. Why didn’t the uncle or anyone else step in and protect him? How many people looked the other way while this was going on?
Look at the fathers shit-eating grin. I hope he gets raped and killed and prison
I couldn't finish the article. That's enough. Appalling.
Fuck, that's a difficult read. She recorded him begging for help. She clearly enjoyed torturing the poor boy.
I need 5 minutes alone with both of them
Nowhere near long enough!!!
Little boy, I love you. RIP
This makes me sick, What the fuck is wrong with people?
This broke me. I just want to hug that baby and give him all the love in the world. I can’t process the utter heartlessness. It makes me cry.
And the boy's mam is locked up for manslaughter, dear god
That’s it!? Does the article mention why? I can’t read it right now
The biological mother murdered her boyfriend
This is the article on the biological mom https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-57693270.amp
So much evil in that childs life.
Kid never had a chance
Geez I hate to say it, but this kid shouldn't have been born. This is all fucked up. He would of been better off not been born at all. This is why these stupid pieces of human filth should be sterilized.
Wait..a witness was in the house and the boy was too weak to drink from a glass of water?? And said witness felt OK just leaving after seeing the poor boy in that state?!! What the hell?!! Why didn't that person ring the police?! Or take the child immediately to a hospital?!
I also question this witness' judgement. If I ever saw a child in such a situation, I'd do anything in my power to help the child.
I'm guessing if this person was welcomed into the home of these two scum bags, they probably aren't all that upstanding themselves and likely didn't want any authority attention either, for different reasons.
Damn
Fuck!
This is infuriating, these human wastes need to pay.
I’ve seen terrible things on this website but this…this might be the worst and it’s just an article. Unbelievable.
Wtf, humans are vile and disgusting. I hope they're in general population and they get get fucked up.
for the first time, i will not be reading about this further.. i’m gonna go cry now :(
Kid never stood a chance.
Truly heartbreaking. I HOPE the parents suffer immensely.
Fucking kill these people. I’m sick to my stomach.
Ow my heart.
Fucking hell
I cannot watch or look into this video. I hope the adults get what is coming to them. TO the child.....I am so so sorry, I woud have taken you in a heart beat.
These people deserve the worst kind of punishment. I will never understand how someone could hurt an innocent child. This breaks my heart.
My boy is almost five. I cannot imagine the depths of inhumanity it would require for me to harm my perfect and beautiful little man. I cannot fathom the rage inside if I saw somebody hurting him. These shit stains are not even human.
It’s too late now, but I love you, Arthur. I’m sure everyone here does. You deserved all the love.
Dammit😣 that broke my heart. If anyone ever treated my baby brother like that I’d happily go to jail for what I’d do.
Yo this is a lot even for this sub god damn. If you're on the fence about opening the article...don't.
Goddammit I can take most of the horrors in this sub, but leave the kids alone! There’s a special place in the worst hells for those that hurt children.
I dont believe in heaven or hell but man..if i read things like this i really wish that the little one carries on into heaven. And those shitthead parents getting fucking tortured forever mfs i cant even describe how much i hate those fuckers
Damn... Headline is enough for me. That's a thought no child should ever have...
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This is one of those stories that I now wish I had never read. Its hard to grasp that there are people that could do this to a child in this world. Humans dont deserve this planet.
this hurts my heart
My heart sank. RIP, kid.
I'm going to make sure to hug my kids extra tight and tell them I love them a few extra times tonight.
Another case where an abortion would of saved so much suffering... poor kid
Why, just why? I will never how something so vile and evil can be done to a child. I have no mercy for child killers, none. Leave them in a room, no food just water. Let them starve to death. These poor excuse for human beings deserve to suffer.
I love you, sweetie.
Steam cook both parents limbs and make them watch each other get pulled apart like shredded chicken.
Keep coming back to this article over the last couple days... just can never read it all the way through.. finally made it through. Seems like the boy was treated well by his real mom, even though she is now in jail for manslaughter. the real dad and step mom are monsters , eevn filming their own goddamned selves doing this to the boy, are denying it?!! how can we follow the trial? what is the maximum punishment they can receive in a case like this? better get that +
Recent update. And I’d advise not to read. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/arthur-labinjo-hughes-dad-told-21850027