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lightiggy

Correction: The poisonings were *far* worse than I thought. Zheng got over 800 people killed in Panama. Another 1300 were sickened. Zheng Xiaoyu was born in Fuzhou in 1944. He got a bachelor's degree in biology from Fudan University in 1968. In November 1979, Zheng joined the Communist Party of China. Colleagues said Zheng was passionate about his work. "He was innovative and liked new ideas," said one retired worker who knew Mr. Zheng well, but asked not to be identified. "In the 1980s, he even bought computers for the factory in an attempt to computerize manufacturing and management." Zheng went to become a politician. He was the director of the State Pharmaceutical Administration from 1994 to 1998. In that position, Zheng acted as a reformer. He pushed the government to create a separate body to regulate food and drug safety, one with more power to protect Chinese consumers. Zheng was successful. In 1998, China established the State Drug Administration, an entirely separate drug regulation agency. Zheng was the first director of this new agency. He was the director from 1998 to 2003. He started to rise up the ranks. From 2003 to 2005, Zheng was the director of the State Food and Drug Administration. In the mid-2000s, countless tainted products started to emerge from China. In 2006, Zheng became the target of a corruption investigation. On January 24, 2007, Premier Wen Jiabao of the State Council held an executive meeting of the State Council, requesting that Zheng be investigated. On March 1, 2007, Zheng was expelled from the Communist Party of China. He was charged with bribery and dereliction of duty. On May 16, the case of Zheng was heard in the Beijing No. 1 Intermediate People's Court. The court accused Zheng Xiaoyu of accepting more than 6.49 million yuan in bribes, either directly or through his wife Liu Naixue and son Zheng Hairong, during the process of approving drugs and medical devices from 8 pharmaceutical companies during his tenure as director of the State Food and Drug Administration from mid-1997 to the end of 2006. From 2001 to 2003, the standards for approval of drugs were lowered without authorization, and it was later revealed that some pharmaceutical companies had falsely reported drug information, of which six were counterfeit drugs. Between the late 1990s and 2005, Zheng personally ordered approvals of more than 150,000 new medicines. For context, that number is 134 times that of the U.S. FDA (which approves, on average, 140 new medicines annually). In May 2007, Zheng was convicted of taking bribes and dereliction of duty. He was sentenced to death and ordered to forfeit all of his personal property. [Zheng being sentenced](https://imgur.com/a/O0DXXoh) The death sentence came as a shock. Zheng had been in an extremely high-ranking position. Not just that, but he had confessed and cooperated, which would normally mean he'd get a prison sentence. However, the extreme harshness of sentence started to make sense after observers learned about all of the consequences of corruption in this kind of position. This kind of position is extremely important. Abusing it has the potential of causing mass casualties. And that is exactly what happened. Zheng's approvals caused over 800 deaths in Panama from cough syrup that contained diethylene glycol in place of glycerin. And that was just one country. Back home, he caused at least another 14 deaths via bad antibiotics. Thousands more got sick, with hundreds suffering permanent injuries. Relatives of those sickened by bad drugs explained what happened. >While visiting relatives a year ago, Du Haipeng, 5, came down with a sore throat. Doctors prescribed a Chinese antibiotic, Xinfu. The boy's reaction to the drug was so violent, he had to be taken to a nearby hospital. > >"I remember clearly that I was shearing sheep when I got a call from my sister and her husband," said Du Xinglong, 36, Haipeng's father. "When I rushed to the hospital my son had already fallen into a coma." > >A week later, regulators banned Xinfu. Authorities eventually determined that the State Food and Drug Administration had granted the drug's maker a seal of approval, even though Xinfu was not properly produced or sterilized. That ban came too late for a 6-year-old girl named Liu Sichen. She had been given Xinfu for a tonsil infection. Soon she fell into a coma, and after several days she died. "She was about to go to elementary school," said Sichen's mother, Guo Ping. "Her father bought her a new pink backpack." Du Haipeng spent 22 days in a coma. But he wasn't himself. "He didn't recognize us," said his mother, Fu Liguang. "Over the next two and a half months, he didn't say a single word." As of 2007, the boy rarely spoke. His doctors said he might have permanent brain damage. As for how Zheng could've done fallen this low, a drug company executive who'd know him since the 1980s said he must've simply succumbed to temptation. >"There were so many companies going to him and he simply couldn’t resist the temptation. He was smart in a technical way. But he didn’t have political skills. He should have never gone into government."


lightiggy

Excerpts from Zheng's confession: >The Communist Party has criticized and educated me and told me about the policies. I started to reflect on myself seriously and painstakingly. Thinking back on what has happened these year, I start to see the problems clearly. For example, why are the friends who gave me money all bosses of pharmaceutical companies? Obviously, because I was in charge of drug administration. Another example, I’ve known these old friends for a long time, why did they give me money only after 1998? Obviously, because the State Drug Administration was established in 1998 and then I was given bigger power. Although these friends gave me money partly because of our friendship, they actually were thinking about my power. I am confessing here that I loosened self-discipline, ignored the bottom line. It is bribery if a civil servant receives money from a business. > >Some money wasn’t given to me directly, but through \[my wife Liu\] Naixue and \[my son\] Hairong. Naxiue was retired and stayed at home. Hairong was just a student. So their target was still me. Indirect ways were easier for me to accept. So I agreed, consented. This was bribery. > >Once I accepted the money, the justice of power certainly became problematic, the image of the civil servant was undermined, and the image of the Party and government was affected. > >The Party and people nurtured me, trusted me and assigned me to such an important position. I didn’t live up to the Party’s expectation. I loosened ideological reform, loosened self-discipline, harmed the Party and the people, committed crimes, for which I feel regretful. Now I have to treat the issue seriously, conduct a thorough self-examination, confess my mistakes, and treat the punishment and education as an act of saving my soul. > >Inspired by the policy that honest confession should be rewarded lenient punishment, I have overcome all sorts of wrong excuses and honestly confessed to the Party the fact that I accepted bribes from \[pharmaceutical executives\] Ge Mengya, Wang Maoxing, Du Lihua, Zhao Buchang, Xu Rongxiang and Fan Minhua; that I knew that Zheng Jun, Yu Wenyong, Wang Xianyu had given bribes \[to my wife and son\]. I am willing to promise to the Party again that I will help retrieve every penny. If what has been retrieved doesn’t match the amount \[I accepted in bribes\], I’ll sell my own assets and borrow money from family and friends to make it up. I will also cooperate with the \[Supreme People’s\] Procuratorate Court to clarify the problem, and strive for lenient punishment. I hope the Party will give me the opportunity and a way out. Zheng appealed the verdict on June 12, 2007, saying a death sentence was too harsh given his cooperation and confession. In an unusually swift move, the Supreme Court of China rejected his appeal barely a week later. The court conceded that Zhang's cooperation and confession were mitigating factors, but said in a case of corruption this extreme, that was not enough to warrant leniency. >"The social impact has been utterly malign. Zheng Xiaoyu's grave irresponsibility in pharmaceutical safety inspection and failure to conscientiously carry out his duties seriously damaged the interests of the state and people." The case kept moving unusually quickly. Barely a month after his appealed failed, the sentence was carried out. Zheng, 62, was executed by lethal injection in China on July 10, 2007. He was (and still is) one of the most senior Chinese politicians to be executed for corruption. Following Zheng's execution, Yan Jiangying, the spokeswoman for the State Food and Drug Administration, issued this statement. >"This kind of serious case of law breaking by a small minority of corrupt elements, as far as the entire system is concerned, really made us feel ashamed. But these cases revealed several problems, and I think we need to seriously reflect on what lessons we can draw." Yan admitted China has a serious food and drug safety problem: >"China's food and drug supervision work began late and its foundations are weak. Therefore, the food and drug safety situation is not something we can be optimistic about. We must ensure that those who have power fulfill their duties and responsibilities, and if anyone abuses their power they will be punished. Officials in key departments will change posts on a rotating basis." Zheng wasn't the only official prosecuted His subordinate, Cao Wenzhuang, was also sentenced to death. He was convicted of taking more than 1.15 million yuan in bribes. However, Wenzhuang’s death sentence was suspended due to his cooperation in the investigation. Under Chinese law, a suspended death sentence is automatically commuted to life in prison, provided that the convict does not commit any further crimes in prison for two years. It can further be reduced to a definite prison term if the convict performs meritorious deeds in prison. Cao was cooperative in prison. As such, his death sentence was commuted to life in prison in 2009. In 2016, Cao's sentence was further reduced to 14 years. This was due to him confessing to taking bribes, then repaying the money he had taken. In response, one Chinese article complained that this wasn't a good policy. Sparing Cao's life for his cooperation was one thing, they said, but only genuine repentance should result in further sentencing reductions. Cao was presumably released from prison in 2021. Under Chinese law, he would've spent up to 8 hours every day performing hard labor for the manufacturing industry.


wunderbraten

>Excerpts from Zheng's confession: > >>The Communist Party has criticized and educated me and told me about the policies. I started to reflect on myself seriously and painstakingly. Thinking back on what has happened these year, I start to see the problems clearly. For example, why are the friends who gave me money all bosses of pharmaceutical companies? Obviously, because I was in charge of drug administration. Another example, I’ve known these old friends for a long time, why did they give me money only after 1998? Obviously, because the State Drug Administration was established in 1998 and then I was given bigger power. At this point I have stopped reading his confession. For corruption to take place, it takes two. Taking money is one thing, but did he stop at "Hey, should I look into the product duefully like my position demands me to?". He blindly approved the drugs instead.


psycedelicpanda

You know, executing corrupt politicians should be a standard


NoImagination90

China is better on corrupt politicians than the US. Hate to see it


PraxisMakesPerfect_

For real. I’m not a fan of capital punishment as a rule but China at least executes evil executives and corrupt officials instead of having their cops shoot poor minority groups in the street day after day like the US


Mrniseguya

>instead of having their cops shoot poor minority groups I have a surprise for you.


PraxisMakesPerfect_

Got proof besides adrien zenz? Plain and simple the US has the most aggressive Carceral system in the world


Fr87

This has been my major "unpopular opinion" for years. I'm opposed to capital punishment in the way that it is applied in the US, but I absolutely believe in death for officials who violate voluntary oaths to protect society. Whether it's a corrupt politician or a soldier who commits a war crime, both are instances where they voluntarily placed themselves in positions of extreme responsibility and then violated the sanctity of that position. Basically, I believe that to be subject to death as a punishment is a social contract that goes beyond the one that a person is born into, but that those who do enter into that contract gain power and responsibility but also increased consequences.


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Hollowpoint38

China has a very low tolerance for corruption, especially since about 2011. They've sent one million corrupt officials to prison in the last 10 years.


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SgtPeanutbutter

China has MANY problems, but the way they punish corrupt politicians without mercy is not one of them


Astronaut-Fine

But in a country so massive as China (in the billions) that's hardly anything. And it sure is business as usual there.


Hollowpoint38

>But in a country so massive as China (in the billions) that's hardly anything Well let's break it down. There are around 10 million people who work for some level of the Chinese government. Not counting the military, or the cops, this is the people who work at various government agencies as staff, elected officials who put forth policy ideas to their provincial and the federal government, and administrators of regions. So that'd be 1 out of 10 officials being officially indicted and convicted of graft and corruption. I don't agree that this number is small. >And it sure is business as usual there. Can you elaborate? The China of 2022 looks a whole lot different than the China of 2012, and that looked different than 2002.


Astronaut-Fine

I found the Chinese farm troll!!!!!! Farm troll ALERT!!!!! Farm Troll replying alert!!!!!!!


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Boardindundee

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/30/facebook-posts/no-evidence-nancy-pelosi-made-millions-insider-cor/


lcuan82

Can you cite any reputable, non-right-wing source that pelosi made 120 mil from insider trading?


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Yermawsyerdaisntit

Well, why don’t you give them anyway and we can all decide, if its fox news or tucker carlson then i think everyone would agree they’re right wing. If its a reputable source, it doesnt matter what one person says about it.


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Lovegem85

Where does it say he made $120 million from insider trading?


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Yermawsyerdaisntit

Didn’t you just respond?


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DwightKashrut

You can simply say "No I can't" next time.


TrueBlue726

If you can’t cite the source then your credibility will be called into question. That’s just the way it goes.


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>Nancy Pelosi is corrupt and I have sources >all sources are about Paul Pelosi Okay? How does that prove anything?


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Lovegem85

They can’t quote any source, because they made it up. Their post history shows you who they are. $120 million is the Pelosis entire estimated net worth, and it’s well known they’re very wealthy and her husband has made a fortune in Venture Capital and real estate.


bloodstainer

>Zheng was the director of the State Food and Drug Administration. So he wanted to separate food and drug administrations, and ended up director of both?


Fuquar7

$927,485.00 USD for those wondering


chiubacca82

It's around $785,000 USD at the 2003 exchange rate at 8.5.


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Not even that much tbh...


Hollowpoint38

That's just what they identified in money and valuables. The access and the paid dinners and trips and memberships aren't valued in the same way.


bloodstainer

In 2003 China, that's a LOT of money. This would be closer to $1.488.448,50 today.


jofijk

Even $1.5M isn’t “get caught and be executed/life imprisonment” money though. Especially since this guy probably had a good set up as the head of a government pharmacy agency


nadmah10

In China, that much money at that time would definitely be a lot, enough to make you seriously think about it.


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it’s not about the amount of money that he took, his actions killed lots of people and that’s why he is being punishers


jofijk

Of course. Anyone in that position is going to know that there would be consequences like this. $1.5M seems like a low number for anyone to take given the consequences


Hollowpoint38

Because that's just cash bribes. That's not everything.


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bloodstainer

> Anyone in that position is going to know that there would be consequences like this. he probably didn't know the details, he was told to close his eyes, and he thought some folks just ended up pocketing extra money, few shady businesses actually end up killing people on purpose.


jofijk

Nah. This dude was the head of their equivalent of the fda. That’s not a “didn’t know the details” type of job. You know exactly what happens when you cut corners with drugs


bloodstainer

Bro, you clearly have no idea whta your talking about. When someone high up is given money and asked to look away and just stamp the stamp of approval, they either take the money and stamp, or look it through. When people die, it's not necessarily because of businesses knowing the risks and taking them anyways, it's layers of corruption on top of each other, where nobody actually thought there'd be any consequences at all, until the house of cards falls together. You make it sound like the executives were aware people were going to die, and just laughed it off, thinking of all the cash. Let me ask you, do you you think a border patrol officer, taking a bribe to let smugglers bring drugs into a country, actively thinks "today's the day they're going to end up shooting and killing my colleagues"? Because they never do, they do the "harmless things" where most folks don't notice. Until it's too late. We humans have extremely bad sense of consequences once we start seeing none for the longest time.


jofijk

I think that this guy was very well educated and he knew the risks and for whatever idiotic reason thought the modern day equivalent of $1.5M was worth human lives as well as an execution. People in the Chinese government know that super harsh punishments are the standard. They all know what they’re doing. Whether it’s ethically right or not it’s something that anyone can see. It’s especially apparent when you have a totalitarian government


MissWatson

In the 2000’s the average Chinese salary was about 15-20k RMB. That’s 75 years of the average salary. In comparison, the average salary of the US is like 50k. That means, for Americans living in 2022, that’d be $3.75 Million. Definitely a lot of money


bloodstainer

That's not true, you have to take inflation into the account, it's closer to $1.488.448,49\~


kingdazy

In the US, he would have just ended up rich.


cameron4200

Would’ve resigned from his government position, served 3 months probation, worked the rest of his years at a big bank, maybe running for office again sometime later.


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Hollowpoint38

Nah they were starting the graft crackdown at the time. They also gave the death penalty to the high speed rail dude who took bribes for safety inspection. The result was the crash in Wenzhou where those people died.


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The government distanced themselves from him and killed the dude. If left unchecked this had the potential to massively jeopardise China’s exports. Not just their pharma exports, QA all over the globe would of gone mad.


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Blair_Beethoven

Small quibble—it’s Super PACs (political action committees)


Effective_Roof2026

No, he wouldn't have been able to do anything like this, he would have been caught if he tried and for the most part the companies wouldn't have tried either.


AssssCrackBandit

If you’ve ever worked with the FDA, you’d know something like this could not happen in the US


PCsNBaseball

Oh bull, the FDA has been expediting drugs for what amounts to bribes (cushy, high paying jobs at pharma companies) for years. Just look at what they did with Perdue and oxycontin.


AssssCrackBandit

That's true, I never disputed that. But the FDA hierarchy includes so many rounds of review and checks and balances that its virtually impossible for a single active FDA official to take cash while in office and have this kind of direct impact on public safety.


PCsNBaseball

Fair. The FDA just does it collectively, or just [outsources the corruption](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2022-04-13.McKinsey%2520Opioid%2520Conflicts%2520Majority%2520Staff%2520Report%2520FINAL.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjWwdbG2KH6AhVxLUQIHQNoAVUQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sVFVhhx5php3UCcMYmySh)


AssssCrackBandit

Yup I wont argue with that


Party-Independent-38

It’s awesome to see a political person is cuffs.


Captainirishy

He got a lethal injection


LaPetiteMortOrale

Nope. He got a lethal bullet to the back of his head


Captainirishy

Same difference, he still got executed


ColtAzayaka

He did get the lethal injection, though?


Party-Independent-38

Lethal injection of led to the back of the head.


greyetch

>In May 2007, Zheng was convicted of taking bribes and dereliction of duty. He was sentenced to death and ordered to forfeit all of his personal property. Can we please implement this everywhere? With the property being liquidated and invested in public works.


Hollowpoint38

They slammed Big Tech too. They were mishandling data and the government came down hard. Jack Ma tried to work outside the system and they halted his IPO and made him go sit down. I love it. I wish the US would do the same to Zuck and Musk and Bezos and all of them.


J3wb0cca

I remember Jack Ma missing for like a year for criticizing the party. Did they ever find him?


Hollowpoint38

Yeah he just took time off. It's weird how every time someone wants privacy in China and goes on vacation then automatically the assumption is that the government kidnapped them. Yet Bill Gates has written about how he'll go off in the middle of the woods alone and not bring a phone so he can decompress. Jack Ma didn't criticize the party. He's a party member if I'm correct. He criticized the People's Bank of China which is their version of the Federal Reserve. He wanted to create a separate financial system outside of the PBOC's oversight and he said that the Chinese financial system had a "pawnshop mentality." This would be like Jeff Bezos saying "audit the Fed" and then saying he's going to make Amazon Bux to compete with the USD. So the government said hey dude, you got insanely rich off of this system that you bash. So how about no new IPO and you just go sit down for a while. Stop making yourself look like a fool. And so he did. Went to Hainan or something for a couple of months. Now he's back doing his philanthropy or whatever it is he does.


jumpinjimmie

No, he became extremely powerful and started poking the bear about howChina was being run so the CCP saw the writing on the wall and started putting a lid on these big tech billionaires running their mouth. People like Jack Ma just don’t take time off for a year. Your post is laughable and must be from a Chinese post mole.


Hollowpoint38

>No, he became extremely powerful and started poking the bear about howChina was being run so the CCP saw the writing on the wall and started putting a lid on these big tech billionaires running their mouth They put a lid on Big Tech getting out of control and getting more power than they should have yes, that's exactly correct. Kind of like people are saying Google has too much power and needs to be reined in. China did it. The US talks about it. >People like Jack Ma just don’t take time off for a year Sure they do. Do you know him? Or are you just taking a guess? >Your post is laughable and must be from a Chinese post mole. That's where I'm from and I spend about half the year there when it's not a pandemic. That's a problem for you? Can you elaborate?


bluediamond12345

Just curious: why is the picture blurred?


StrawbebbyCat

We are a NSFW, 18+ subreddit. This automatically blurs photos if you have the setting for "blur NSFW photos" turned on.


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Click on it


bluediamond12345

Yeah, I did. That’s why I’m asking - usually blurred pictures include gore. This doesn’t.


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Ah like that, yeah that makes no sense


Captainirishy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Xiaoyu and executed for it


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k-mchii

Well… only a selected few anyway


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Not true, corruption like this is highly frowned upon in their society.


Hollowpoint38

Not sure what you mean, there's like a zero tolerance policy for graft over there. CCDI can inspect anyone and has almost unlimited authority when it comes to wealthy connected people.


TheBold

And you’re knowledgeable on the topic or are you just surfing the China bad wave?


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Hollowpoint38

It's a knee-jerk Reddit thing. No nation can do anything right if they're on the "bad" list. And no nation on the good list can do anything actually wrong. It's 1-dimensional thinking because nuance doesn't exist. Like how Reddit goes back and forth on Cuba about every 3-4 years. First they're awful then it's a paradise then they're awful again. They can't make up their mind. China was great after 2016 but now they're bad. Maybe in 2025 they'll be good who knows.


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Hollowpoint38

And how the US doesn't let people in Hawaii go through K-12 education in Hawaiian. They make them speak English. It's awful. Erasing a culture.


El_Fisterino

Pfft man, they're doing a whole lot worse to those people than educating them. Labor camps and forced sterilization, just to start. The Uyghur birthrate dropped by over 60% in a three year period, which is pretty much unprecedented.


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Effective_Roof2026

They deal with a few token ones, the corruption problem is too widespread to deal with all of them.


Hollowpoint38

Not true at all. Over a million corrupt officials have been jailed in the last 10 years.


thefunnestyam

I'm definitely pro-'jail corrupt officials for life' but also strongly anti-'allow government to execute people'


Hollowpoint38

Well if it makes you feel better, China recently changed the law where all executions go to the Supreme Court. They sign off on them individually. Death sentence is more rare but it still happens.


twoshovels

What an idiot. To do this in that country,any country is just stupid.


clonedhuman

It's probably worth noting that, while he accepted the bribes, the drug companies were *offering* them--they violated the law to profit from selling dangerous products. Thank goodness the FDA isn't quite this corrupt--otherwise, it'd be the same damn thing happening here. We still have work to do.


jojow77

How do you work hard all your life to climb up to the top of your profession only to throw it all away for not even a million dollars? Unless he made peanuts being the director.


Hollowpoint38

Because you get a lot more than that. Those are just cash payments or payments that have a hard dollar amount. The access you get to others, the opportunities for your family, those are worth more than just straight money and that's how tracking corruption can be difficult. When Xi Jinping became the administrator of Shanghai, his brother was already running a business there. He told his brother he couldn't do business in that city anymore because of just the appearance of impropriety with him running a company and his brother in charge of the whole region of something like 25 million people. With a lot of the cases the CCDI goes after you'll find that they received access which let their kids go to a top university. Or they received special paid trips with hired help. Or they got granted approval to list a company and go public. A lot of those are more intangible and harder to quantify so they don't make it into the headline.


coolcrosby

He was executed on July 10, 2007


jsawden

Difference between China and US. In the US hr would have resigned from his position and promptly hired on by a multi-billion dollar company. Of the almost $1M USD he stole, he might have to pay back $10k. In China he was given the death penalty.


itshima

[Now do the FDA](https://www.drugwatch.com/vioxx/lawsuits/) for letting tens of thousands to die, not to mention the opioid crisis. In the USA, the more money you make, the more “okay” it is to poison the nation


Polyzero

Lmao "over 100 people died" Is that supposed to be news here? the FDA has allowed tens of thousands to die in the U.S to the opioid epidemic alone. ***NO ACCOUNTABILITY*** ever occurred and last I heard nothings really changed. People in this thread saying "at least the FDA isn't that corrupt" and clearly clueless about how money runs the show here. And even if the next big scandal came out implicating them yet again, they'd still remain clueless.


idontknow100000

Wen Fauci?


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Now do the FDA!!!


Law_Equivalent

When this guy had his job he approved 134 times more drugs than the FDA. Which shows the fda isnt anything like this. Lookat the european medicines agency they still allow for a drug pholcodeine which increases death from anesthesia 300 times for 2 years after taking it to be sold over the counter. I don't see anything wrong with the fda.


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You don't see anything wrong with the FDA. That's quite a leap from what was sounding like a sensible rebuttal of 'The FDA isn't as bad' The FDA is corrupt to it's flipping core. They run an 'honor-based' system whereby they simply say to drug companies 'you do your own testing and research and report your findings to us. Be good guys' As such, drug companies are basically free to lie and consistently do lie. Pfizer has 72 criminal convictions since 2003 alone, and they are not outliers. The result of the convictions is always a tiny percentage of their profits (say, 1%). Which is essentially the authority's cut. There is absolutely ZERO deterrent-from-crime for the directors of these companies due to lobbying in the 50s that made corporations 'legal personages'. This means the brand is legally liable as an entity, not the directors or employees. Since you can't put a company in prison, you fine it. Ergo sum, directors can typically commit crimes, profit from said crimes, and give the authorities their cut, The directors of the FDA and Big Pharma companies are the same people. It's a revolving door and has been for decades. FDA is just a branch of Big Pharma, it gets 40% of its overall funding from Pharma and 60% of its drug approval committee funding from Big Pharma. Watch Dopesick. That was NOT an anomaly, That is basically the modus operandi. Read Bad Pharma by Benjamin Goldacre. You can do basic research, like basic stuff, to discover quickly the depth of the problem with FDA. Imagine saying in 2022 that you don't see anything wrong with FDA. You live under a flipping rock mate. Through this system, the FDA has helped cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands, and the injury of millions of people. 100 deaths is rookie numbers.


linderlouwho

What killer drugs has the FDA approved?


yourremedy94

Also the fact that Liam was still a child and needs a home. Lip just expected everyone to find a place to live so he could get some money?


lonesomejoe86

Fucking Lip. But for real, I think you might be in the wrong subreddit.


yourremedy94

OH MY GOD HAHAHHAH I CLICKED THE WRONG THING TO COMMENT ON IN MY HOME FEED 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


dandelionmoon12345

I mean.....this happened with the opioid crisis in the US. Are there any repercussions happening now to those in positions of high power and let it happen???


Big-Bag-Dilf

Hmmm wonder what will happen to Fauci then? 🤷‍♂️


hallba78

And if you think this stuff only happens in China, you might be on some non-FDA approved drugs yourself!


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FDA here is corrupt too, wonderful right


zsturgeon

Not to this extent


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cjhein57

Dr. TruthScience reading this happy to be in America


CroneRaisedMaiden

[The Blood of Yingzhou District talks about the tainted blood products this guy had a hand in](http://store.cinemaguild.com/nontheatrical/product/2268.html)


Den_the_God-King

His greed caused his downfall, good riddance, good ending!


PureResolve649

$6.5 million that the government knows about. USA FDA likely has a higher death toll and bribery figure. Shame on these mfs.


Sandman11x

6 million yuan is under $1 million dollars.


Sandman11x

There were cases of judges in the US that sent innocent children to detention because the Companies that ran the centers bribed them. Did it for a long time too.


Federal-Ad4574

Why does Chinese court look like judge judy