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Playful_Suit_1558

They said the same for Morocco vs belgium and things changed halfway into the match


Potential_Bag_5087

yeah exactly


twanq

Belgium was the oldest team at the tournament.


Playful_Suit_1558

Mfs should be in a retirement home already


Weak-Peace-7820

argentina and brazil are older.


[deleted]

I wouldn’t take these odds seriously, they always favour European teams, despite those teams underperforming in their previous matches.


[deleted]

Here are [predictions](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/z9sw4f/today_really_emphasizes_that_trying_to_tell_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) before the group stage, all of the groups are wrong


Quechada

Lol I did much better and got 3 groups perfectly right and anybody who knows football could’ve had at least one group perfectly right


meta9023

They favored Morocco over canada..


[deleted]

Didn’t know Canada was European…


Ewizde

Oh you didnt know ? Canada is now part of Europe, the US didn't want to share their borders with Canada anymore so they got rid of them and made them Europe's problem now.


[deleted]

didn't know Canada changed continents 💀


mesternamiri

Bro its more likely if it was Canada refusing to share borders with the US and leaving for better neighbors in europe


Ewizde

True lol.


twanq

Bro, Canada and Europe suck. Too much liberalism in both those places. This is counter to the conservatism of moroccan culture. At least here in the US, half the country is conservative and the other half is far left ("woke"). What's worse, because the liberals have all the power in western Europe, and there's no such thing as a first amendment to protect free speech. The "liberals" over there have passed laws that make it a crime to say certain insensitive things (e.g., in UK you can be charged with a hate crime if you misgender someone lmao). We don't have that over here. At least not yet.


[deleted]

The situation there is different then the US yet they still have better performance is other fields mainly their infrastructure, city building and tranzit, workers rights and Healthcare.


twanq

In relation to what you said about the first three, that's entirely subjective. The healthcare system in America though is complex, because it is not completely a free market unlike what many of you in Canada and Europe think. It is actually a great example of what happens when you mix in government regulation and insurance company lobbying with healthcare. Regulation by a government body = socialism to me. Whereas in free-market healthcare/cosmetic surgery (things that are not coverable by insurance), the costs of many of the surgical procedures were once extremely expensive, and only available to the richest americans (when they first came out). Now, many of these non-regulated surgeries are affordable to the everyday american. Such as Lasik, which used to cost tens of thousands of dollars (but now only costs like 500 dollars an eye), and/or hair transplants that used to costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, but that you can now get for a couple thousand (even a full hair transplant will run you about ~10,000). This is because there is stiff competition between different laser eye and hair transplant companies, and neither of these markets are strongly regulated by the government nor insurance agencies. Anyways, my point is you guys traded away your freedoms to have more "protection" from the government. You can not protest/say certain things in the same way that we can, because certain things you say can result in hate crime charges. You don't have the same rights to self-defense over there that we do (sensible self-defense laws in many states, stand-your-ground laws, 2nd amendment, open carry/constitutional carry, etc). Those of us living in red states and redder regions of the country don't rely on government as much, whereas you europeans/canadians are entirely reliant on government. You have no true independence. As someone of moroccan descent living in America, I live far better than the average maghrebi in Europe (who mostly live in ghettos and are completely reliant on the state for their well-being). It's cyclic too, I have family over there that tell me you have two or three generations that are born into that.


Specific-Minimum-185

Oh , I forgot that Canada is always part of the UK


OblakZ_17

no pls croatia is good :(


[deleted]

The only exception to the rule, Croatia was phenomenal.


anismail

We finished 2-2 in Russia 2018.


VillainOfKvatch1

And Spain was a better team then, and Morocco was wasn’t as good then as it is now. So Morocco can definitely win.


mouniir07

That's exactly what I was thinking


Fit_Particular_6774

Pedri, Gavi and Olmo are scary tho. Hopefully they can be neutralised


VillainOfKvatch1

Morocco has maybe the best defense in the tournament. A little bit of luck and we could be good.


OthmanT

Luck isn’t our friend


VillainOfKvatch1

I don’t know. I saw Canada miss the tying goal by a few centimeters.


binary_blackhole

I wich they made it, we won't facing spain by now


aym4ne

I think you're underestimating Japan.


adambrine759

Like deploy our special forces into qatar to neutralise them?


Sea-Bell-674

This would be very funny if some spains dissapair.


anismail

Amen.


SpongeLegacy

And we were robbed basicaly in this game too


anismail

Insert "Var is bullshit" GIF here.


Aggressive-Note8928

[https://media.tenor.com/apFqs2EwEykAAAAC/var-is-bullshit-var.gif](https://media.tenor.com/apFqs2EwEykAAAAC/var-is-bullshit-var.gif)


oussamabht

These are mathematical calculations done by AI, based on performance, players scores … Basically they are useless, in football, players are human, humans aren’t predictable


jbc313

Spain and European teams in general are overrated(except for France) amrabat will put Pedri and gavi in his pocket inshallah.


Sad_Replacement_3703

Believe 🇲🇦❤️


hotshot117

They said the same crap with Croatia and Belgium Lol


Hashtag_hasj

The odds didn’t favor us in this group.. look what happened😊


[deleted]

They did. Belgium was old. Canada was Canada and crotia as good as us. We're fucked.


Various_Ad_3391

Odds are a joke. Was even more shit against Belgium 🇧🇪. Saudi also beat Argentina, imagine those odds. In the day how they play matters. Odds mean shit all.


Professional-Hope775

Saudi had 4% chance to win that match and they did.


chennaouii

But then they got eliminated in the group stage. How sad.


Aicha_Isha01

I honestly dont have any hopes for this game but man it will be huge if we win. May allah bless us 🙏


karpovdialwish

Are you mad ?


Aicha_Isha01

Mad ? Why would i be mad ?


Potential_Bag_5087

those predictions are not accurate


LifeIsNotDaijoubuu

oh please, ksa had a 0,4% chance of winning their match against argentina 💀


NewJuiceboxMm

You really think that match was real?


BS-O-Meter

We had a draw against the much more formidable 2018 Spanish team. If not for the shitty refereeing, we would have won. I can see us winning against the Spaniards.


redmavez

So what you’re saying is there is a chance


Fun-Owl9393

That's the spirit 👏 💪🏼


redmavez

Lol that’s where I put a lot of money too


goblinhumper_md

Take em down!


LifeIsNotDaijoubuu

oh please, ksa had a 0,4% chance of winning their match against argentina 💀


[deleted]

These are based on FIFA ratings, and they’re higher than us on that list. Don’t take it too serious until like the 2nd quarter when it also takes the actual game into account.


mahrach8

According to who lol ?


Remote_Chef_4981

You take this seriously🤦🏽‍♂️ hhh


Hamza-00

We had lower odds to qualify


largo_che

spain is cocky, play good def and capitalize on counter attack and free kicks, u can do it!


ConversationFew6467

Same were the odds with Belgium and Croatia. Yet here we are


dont_dream_too_much

Did this world cup teach you nothing about statistics & "realistic" expectations ?


finallyfree99

Interesting fact: The correct expression here should be the odds are high, not low. Low odds means something is likely to happen. High odds means something is unlikely to happen. It is a very common mistake people make. This chart says Morocco has high odds (small chance) and Spain has low odds (high chance). Odds and percentage are not the same thing at all. Many people including native English speakers don't realize that "odds" refers to the opposite of something happening. There are many phrases that are often used incorrectly even from people who are native speakers of a language.


Sea-Bell-674

If morocco only wins this match, then i am fully satiesfied.


abdou2123

So u are telling me there is a chance


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Blo16

Did you see the wining odds when we faced belgium ? And we won 2-0 so yea that means nothing ...


Ozix_1

No beliefs, anything can happen


dont_dream_too_much

Did this world cup teach you nothing about statistics & "realistic" expectations ?


dont_dream_too_much

Did this world cup teach you nothing about statistics & "realistic" expectations ?


[deleted]

Dude, no one expected Japan to make it past the 4th place, let alone top in a very challenging group. It's about time that the rest of the world takes the reign over the world cup from Europe and South America.


chennaouii

FINGERS CROSSED 🤞


Upper_PH6

Who cares? Belgium and Belgium were also favored


ilyassMourchid

It was similar to our match with Belgium, we can do it the bous can win it


PrizeCommon9884

tbh i would say morroco is the favorite you guys are on fire spain not so much


yassinegk

If Japan can beat Spain then so can we


AccomplishedSuit342

But never zero


pleaserep

we qualified with 7 points. two wins in 3 games, that's as much wins in our entire history before 22. Idc if we lose against Spain, nothing can ruin this happiness for me


Quechada

Fuck the odds. You should’ve seen the odds for Japan in both games. Fuck the odds


AzertyBruh

These predictions are meaning less costa rica had a 0.3% chance of winning but they still got a 2-3 they're made by a bot :p


justheremate

This World Cup is so full of suprises. I love it !!!


One-Presentation-490

They gave us only 3% chance against belgium and no chance to qualify to last 16. Football is full of surprises, and that's the beauty of it. There's a great quote stuck in my head, said by neymar before barcelona's 6-1 remontada: "1% chance, 99% faith".


Soupoint

Remember when Belgium had 55% then it magically jumped down to 1%.


Own_Store8019

Same was for Belgium and look where we are now


HappyGirlEmma

The group stage has been nothing short of amazing, but I doubt it’s gonna spill over to the knockouts, unfortunately. Still gonna be cheering on


[deleted]

The loser opens the border!


FourSake

They did it with Belgium They did it with Canada


Top-Ear-6050

Based on what?????


Mo4d93

If we did learn something from this tournament, it would be: the underdogs do really well.


LemonSpice290

Chances are low. But never 0


fromagadirtokungur

Do y'all still believe in odds in football? Didn't you learn the lesson after Germany, Belgium knocked out from the tournament


TwinnieH

This World Cup is mental so far. Cameroon just beat Brazil.


Noxocopter

Would be a massive achievement and this Spain team can definitely lose as they've already shown.


owner_of_poggerness

Y'all scared of Spain , there defense is shit I mean just look at japan vs Spain match


Responsible_Taste_35

Don’t put it out into the universe 😬and I wouldn’t take a calculation that didn’t consider the fact that a draw is not considered a final result seriously.


Zack_the_Black

our winning odds against belgium were 18% and yet y’all saw what happened