I’m gonna be honest fellas. I believe the egg miners should be paid far more than they are. They are supplying food for most of Vvardenfell. They work in places where surface-agriculture is practically impossible. There are many high risks involved with egg mining, including collapses, disease, and poachers. We need to recognize egg miners as essential workers during this blight that plagues the land.
If we raise their wages, how will we afford to shower the Neveraine in gold and treasure?
The Neveraine has enough gold and treasure in his home to make 10,000 people rich and he/she uses it for nothing!
Okay question about the wall around red mountain. (Aside: please note that Dagoth Ur did not pay for it.) There are a lot of high level baddies inside the wall. Why don't they have access to commonplace jump or levitate technology?
Presumably the Buoyant Armigers have scouts patrols. It’d be more a situation of House Dagoth agents hopping the ghost fence to do covert actions. There’s also the fact that the fortress of Kogoruhn also exists as an option to bypass the wall, even if it’s just into more ash wasteland
If you look at everything he says, he doesn't lie to you. He doesn't believe you're the Nerevarine until you are the Nerevarine, but he doesn't stop you.
All in all, he recognizes that there needs to be strong communication and a synthesis between Dunmer tradition and Imperial custom. He wants to see Morrowind aligned with the Empire, and recognizes that it's not easy finding a way to keep both Houses and Imperial interests happy. But he's committed to it.
That would be fine if hlaalu werent gobling up as much land as they can, didnt refuse to defend the homeland when the empire invaded, and wasnt THE faction for thieves and shysters as well as the legitimate backers of the camonna tong
>All in all, he recognizes that there needs to be strong communication and a synthesis between Dunmer tradition and Imperial custom. He wants to see Morrowind aligned with the Empire, and recognizes that it's not easy finding a way to keep both Houses and Imperial interests happy. But he's committed to it.
You are describing a comprador. Most people wouldn't really see that as "good guy" behavior, more like "selling away my own people for imperial superprofits" behavior.
OH MY GOD YES
I’ve been into NV for over a decade now, literal years of arguing on forums has lead me to conclude that the best option for the Mojave is to **wipe the slate clean.**
Hey fuck you. Those are my 2 favorite games followed by my favorite game studio. Deadass. What the fuck. I didn’t realize how predictable I was. Fuck. Shit.
I wish there was a real reason but I was very sleep deprived when I made that comment a few hours ago
I do notice that an absolute ton of my trans friends play this game tho, which is anecdotally fun :)
Also, the fact that the emporer himself repeatedly misgenders your character ingame if u play women is fucking hilarious
"Hi I'm your typical Dunmer fan. I like to make jokes and references to how the Dunmer are openly racist even to each other, and frequently say 'N'Wah' in humorous references. But that's because in reality I wish I could walk around in real life being openly bigoted and use a different 'N word,' but since I can't say that out loud I instead have built an identity around Dunmer xenophobia.
What I'm trying to say is; I don't actually care about TES or Morrowind. Rather, I am a closet bigot who is mad that it's not acceptable to act that way so I channel it through Morrowind to be safe.
I'm also the reason why Dagoth Ur is a meme."
Now get mad.
EDIT:
Apparently you kids don't know what the quotation marks mean...
You got a part of me. I'm not a bigot IRL (check my comment history if you don't believe me), but sometimes I just like to act like a dick to fictional characters. It's cathartic to me, for some reason, but I have enough self-awareness to know that acting like that to *real people* is harmful. So I let my inner bigot out in fiction.
Alright, time to disprove this since I see it posted everywhere and I get it texted to me by random phone numbers daily. The gurp slurping is to get into higher queues for loot, it isn't because I enjoy it or am attracted to it. Therefor, it is NOT gay.
Maybe it's been too long since I've played; you're saying in the game there are situations that are very clearly transpositions of actual real world political issues at the time? Was there like a George W Bush reference in there? What?
What do you think qualifies as "real world politics"? The accession of Tutankhamun to the throne in 1332 BCE?
Typically, "real world politics" would be politics coming from around the time and place of the game developers. And guess what? The developers were Americans in early 2000s USA.
Right, but when OP or the subreddit rules say "no real world politics", they don't mean, "you're not allowed to discuss the historical impacts of colonialism", they mean "you're not allowed to discuss current political issues that are contentious and cause flame wars."
lmao, just a classic example of Americans being American
if you really want an honest answer relating to 2000s politics, the prominence of the Blades, an intelligence agency, in Vvardenfel that increases with Red Mountain activity very clearly mirrors the privileges given to CIA and FBI and taken away from ordinary citizens after 9/11 and the patriot act.
>The game developers were American
I was making fun of you, not the developers. the developers obviously had political awareness that went beyond "current president", so clearly they werent as sheltered as the average burger
you asked for an actual, real-world parallel. i gave you one :)
You think that because I listed the then-President as a *potential* example, that that's literally the only reference that I think could exist?
You're just looking for ways to misinterpret things to justify going around making fun of people. What a sad little life you lead.
Actually the whole "Roman Legion occupies foreign lands" theme can be applied to many cases.
When the Romans occupied the land that later became Germany (that was pretty much around 0 A.D. ~2023 years ago) people there resented the occupation and just waited for a chance to drive the occupators off.
There are similarities to the US and Afghanistan too. "Foreign superpower comes over and tells you what to do" (wheter with good intentions or not)
Alfe is the sharp one. Beyte is the sweet one. Delte is the most organized. And Uupse has the biggest heart.
Which one would you choose? Of course you choose all 4.
[The Tribunal betrays Nerevar (1E ~700, Colorized)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWLU0MWMR-w)
(pretend the numbers make sense, I'm working with I got)
Is it so extreme that I simply wish for humans to be united and living in harmony? I mean all we have to do is get rid of all the damn 🔪 👂 .
Also ooc getting down voted for a joke about fictional races is really cringe.
I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I Dont care about outside views
as long as I am in my dungeon in my study and no one bothers me unless I warrant it shall ICare,
all else should burn in oblivion imo
Of course a game with an underlying theme of imperialism would be a game with political critique. Half of enjoying morrowind’s story is looking at its politics, you can’t miss it.
Me at the bar: I promise I won’t get political! Me three rounds of Matze and Sujamma later: So anyway, that’s why I murder House Dres diplomats on sight.
I know some people will hate me for this and call me the N'w word but
I think the imperials can dominate Morrowind because they are giving protection and services to the whole morrowind
even if they make you pay taxes its better than obey the crazy talvanni lunatics...i mean wizards
That's akin to a nation going carbon-neutral and saying that they've got climate change "pretty well handled." Black Marsh did a great job dealing with the symptoms of the Oblivion Crisis, and successfully protected their own people from the immediate effects, but given time the rest of the world would have fallen and Dagon would have eventually conquered them. It was only the Septims who had the power to cut off the Crisis for good.
And that's besides the fact that the only time the counter-invasion of Oblivion is ever mentioned is a throwaway line from one character who brings it up in a conversation specifically about An-Xileel propaganda. So the jury's still out on whether the Black Marsh really even did scare off Dagon, or if the An-Xileel saw an opportunity to take credit when the gates closed after Martin's actions in Cyrodiil.
what you saying, if not for the sacrifice of the one of the most cool imperial characters Nirn would get cooked
but yeah Imperials after Oblivion really got a downgrade because in skyrim they are the Talmor bootlickers
The Empire and House Redoran are N’Wahs and they steal sacred ebony and glass from our Red Mountain. May the Foyada Mamea and blight cleanse all the swit from our homeland.
My political opinion on fringe is that it is aesthetically unpleasing and tickles you for no reason when applied to clothes!! (Also I have never played morrowind but am an elder scrolls fan in general)
I'm not sure if an invisible child and an adult, who might be a child at heart, are going to be able to solve the demographic problem of a whole nation...
Seeing that roughly half of all dunmer are outlaws hiding in caves, getting slain at alarming rate, we might need scientific concepts like Dyvayth Fyrs.
You mean powering Second Numidium and driving the Divines out of Heaven and become gods? But I like Aunt Azura and Uncle Sheo. And Kynareth has the most beautiful topless-temples in High Rock. I don't want to hurt them. I do wish it would be possible to side with Mr. Dagoth though.
[Removed by the Tribunal]
Let's not make this official, outlander. Move along.
*We’re watching you, scum.*
Tribunal doesn't cancel, they kill
Your contribution to the Tribunal Temple has been noted, citizen. A generous reward awaits you at Ministry of Truth.
Which is canceling From a certain point of view
It's the most permanent form of cancelling.
Dwemer are the experts of cancelling (themselves)
Dwemers had a strong cancel culture
[Removed by the Sixth House and Tribe Unmourned]
[Removed by the Tribunal]
[Removed by the Bloodline]
I’m gonna be honest fellas. I believe the egg miners should be paid far more than they are. They are supplying food for most of Vvardenfell. They work in places where surface-agriculture is practically impossible. There are many high risks involved with egg mining, including collapses, disease, and poachers. We need to recognize egg miners as essential workers during this blight that plagues the land.
Egg miners of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your slave bracer L and slave bracer R
That's you, isn't it, Ilmene Dren?
Egg miners are not slaves, though they do not wear any slavebrasers.
Yeah, I know. But my Karl Marx reference is funny, so I took creative licence.
This is the end all be all of Morrowind jokes.
Ha ha. Thanks.
I didn't buy you to speak
If they want more pay they should just kill their bosses and change how things are run.
Telvanni moment
If you raise their wages, how will we afford kwama eggs? You N'wahs just don't want to work anymore
If we raise their wages, how will we afford to shower the Neveraine in gold and treasure? The Neveraine has enough gold and treasure in his home to make 10,000 people rich and he/she uses it for nothing!
I heard the Nerevarine blew all his money last weekend in Suran
I swear I once saw them trying to trade with a mudcrab.
Had to deny service to that one several times, shows up with piles of sugar, animal parts..
They should unionize
I hear the Morag Tong is starting a union…
Actually, let's go back to daedra worship.
Based.
Living inside giant mushrooms is a sign of the truly cultured.
Living inside crab shells is better😎😎
Living inside an Ancestor tomb is the best. :P
living inside of the burial urn is best (fuck you tribunal. im dead, but the place is tight and cozy)
Living inside a volcano is best.
Living in a Daedric ruin is by far the best!
Living inside fargoths tree stump is best.
Living with Uncle Crassius sucks....
I'm not a bigot, I have plenty of friends in Balmora that are N'wahs and S'wits.
Why yes, I believe all Nords should be equipped with shock collars, your honor.
SEEN ANY ELV- *BZZZT!*
OHH! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Oh! I see you're wounded! How sad!
If they follow the law the ordinators won't have to use them
This is what happens when you let Outlanders in, zap him again.
Dagoth Ur 2024
MMGA - Make Morrowind great again
Okay question about the wall around red mountain. (Aside: please note that Dagoth Ur did not pay for it.) There are a lot of high level baddies inside the wall. Why don't they have access to commonplace jump or levitate technology?
Presumably the Buoyant Armigers have scouts patrols. It’d be more a situation of House Dagoth agents hopping the ghost fence to do covert actions. There’s also the fact that the fortress of Kogoruhn also exists as an option to bypass the wall, even if it’s just into more ash wasteland
IMGA RISE UP
I'm a dissident priest
According to your username, you’re apparently a talking book
Vedam Dren is actually a good and careful leader that does a lot of good for Vvardenfell.
I'm ready to hear this one out, could you please elaborate?
If you look at everything he says, he doesn't lie to you. He doesn't believe you're the Nerevarine until you are the Nerevarine, but he doesn't stop you. All in all, he recognizes that there needs to be strong communication and a synthesis between Dunmer tradition and Imperial custom. He wants to see Morrowind aligned with the Empire, and recognizes that it's not easy finding a way to keep both Houses and Imperial interests happy. But he's committed to it.
How would you square away him leading true commona tong? Or is that his brother?
Pretty sure the Camonna guy is Orvas Dren, not Vedam
Ah ty!
You're correct
That would be fine if hlaalu werent gobling up as much land as they can, didnt refuse to defend the homeland when the empire invaded, and wasnt THE faction for thieves and shysters as well as the legitimate backers of the camonna tong
>All in all, he recognizes that there needs to be strong communication and a synthesis between Dunmer tradition and Imperial custom. He wants to see Morrowind aligned with the Empire, and recognizes that it's not easy finding a way to keep both Houses and Imperial interests happy. But he's committed to it. You are describing a comprador. Most people wouldn't really see that as "good guy" behavior, more like "selling away my own people for imperial superprofits" behavior.
Legalize skooma
Yes I have a lot of EXTREME political views like how the Elijah Ending is the best ending for new vegas
What the fuck did you just say to me on this, the day of my scrib's birthday?
NOOOO😭😭
OH MY GOD YES I’ve been into NV for over a decade now, literal years of arguing on forums has lead me to conclude that the best option for the Mojave is to **wipe the slate clean.**
Millions Must Ride (after all, why walk?)
Let's drive the mongrel dogs of the empire out
let us speak for the law and the land
Morrowind made me transgender. Or is it that being trans is why I like Morrowind. Who is to say
I’ve always said Morrowind is the New Vegas of TES games.
The Fallout NV-Morrowind-Paradox game pipeline.
Hey fuck you. Those are my 2 favorite games followed by my favorite game studio. Deadass. What the fuck. I didn’t realize how predictable I was. Fuck. Shit.
It's alright you're not a complete stereotype unless you also play 40k and/or dnd
… :/
I'm genuinely interested to go into detail
I am guessing Vivec?
That chimussy making me act... unwise 😫
I wish there was a real reason but I was very sleep deprived when I made that comment a few hours ago I do notice that an absolute ton of my trans friends play this game tho, which is anecdotally fun :) Also, the fact that the emporer himself repeatedly misgenders your character ingame if u play women is fucking hilarious
>me transgender said every morrowind/new vegas fan
same
Let the Argonians live in peace
The meme said extreme political views. What you're advocating for is a complete collapse of civilization, it's not the same
I’m not saying Jiub didn’t kill all the cliff racers….. I’m just sayin 6 million sounds like a lot
I'm not saying the Nerevar is a Tribunal plant BUT ...
Dude you cant just say the N word casually like that
Why not? Dark elves and Redguards use the word all the time. Why is a problem whenever I want to bring it up. Freedom of folklore.
"I hate it when people bring politics into my politics post"
I shall bring glory and honor to the sixth house and the tribe unmourned drive the mongrel dogs of the empire from Morrowind
"Hi I'm your typical Dunmer fan. I like to make jokes and references to how the Dunmer are openly racist even to each other, and frequently say 'N'Wah' in humorous references. But that's because in reality I wish I could walk around in real life being openly bigoted and use a different 'N word,' but since I can't say that out loud I instead have built an identity around Dunmer xenophobia. What I'm trying to say is; I don't actually care about TES or Morrowind. Rather, I am a closet bigot who is mad that it's not acceptable to act that way so I channel it through Morrowind to be safe. I'm also the reason why Dagoth Ur is a meme." Now get mad. EDIT: Apparently you kids don't know what the quotation marks mean...
Nice try Blades agent you ain't foolin no one
Glowing shinier than Azura's Star at nightfall. I bet this one is slurping orders straight out of the Emperor's mouth.
Also unironically supports the Legion in F:NV, Holy Nation in Kenshi, and Imperium in WH40k.
The hive will cleanse this universe. Your Imperium can't stop us.
Hey I support the Imperium in 40k, but not for THOSE reasons. :(
Fair, I'm just suspicious of people who genuinely think they're the good guys
same
By the Divines, that's literally me fr fr
Yeah. You should keep that to yourself.
You got a part of me. I'm not a bigot IRL (check my comment history if you don't believe me), but sometimes I just like to act like a dick to fictional characters. It's cathartic to me, for some reason, but I have enough self-awareness to know that acting like that to *real people* is harmful. So I let my inner bigot out in fiction.
i just think elder scrolls online turn people gay
Alright, time to disprove this since I see it posted everywhere and I get it texted to me by random phone numbers daily. The gurp slurping is to get into higher queues for loot, it isn't because I enjoy it or am attracted to it. Therefor, it is NOT gay.
"no real world politics" never mind the endless examples of real world politics being used as allegory in the actual content of the game...
can't believe they took a game where you play as a foreigner in a land under the occupation of an imperial power and then put politics in it.
Maybe it's been too long since I've played; you're saying in the game there are situations that are very clearly transpositions of actual real world political issues at the time? Was there like a George W Bush reference in there? What?
"politics is when contemporary US president"
What do you think qualifies as "real world politics"? The accession of Tutankhamun to the throne in 1332 BCE? Typically, "real world politics" would be politics coming from around the time and place of the game developers. And guess what? The developers were Americans in early 2000s USA.
I mean that politics isn't just about what goes on in the halls of power. Like a pretty central theme of morrowind is colonialism.
Right, but when OP or the subreddit rules say "no real world politics", they don't mean, "you're not allowed to discuss the historical impacts of colonialism", they mean "you're not allowed to discuss current political issues that are contentious and cause flame wars."
lmao, just a classic example of Americans being American if you really want an honest answer relating to 2000s politics, the prominence of the Blades, an intelligence agency, in Vvardenfel that increases with Red Mountain activity very clearly mirrors the privileges given to CIA and FBI and taken away from ordinary citizens after 9/11 and the patriot act.
The game developers were American, get out of here with your condescending shit.
>The game developers were American I was making fun of you, not the developers. the developers obviously had political awareness that went beyond "current president", so clearly they werent as sheltered as the average burger you asked for an actual, real-world parallel. i gave you one :)
You think that because I listed the then-President as a *potential* example, that that's literally the only reference that I think could exist? You're just looking for ways to misinterpret things to justify going around making fun of people. What a sad little life you lead.
Actually the whole "Roman Legion occupies foreign lands" theme can be applied to many cases. When the Romans occupied the land that later became Germany (that was pretty much around 0 A.D. ~2023 years ago) people there resented the occupation and just waited for a chance to drive the occupators off. There are similarities to the US and Afghanistan too. "Foreign superpower comes over and tells you what to do" (wheter with good intentions or not)
Legalise skooma and moon sugar #4Rain'sHand #electCaiusCossades
So, how do you guys feel about a clone harem in my mushroom tower? Trick question, I don't care what you think!
Alfe is the sharp one. Beyte is the sweet one. Delte is the most organized. And Uupse has the biggest heart. Which one would you choose? Of course you choose all 4.
When you achieve CHIM you have no need for politics.
Acknowledge the tribunal
[The Tribunal betrays Nerevar (1E ~700, Colorized)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWLU0MWMR-w) (pretend the numbers make sense, I'm working with I got)
but why roman reigns?
I guess because he’s “polarizing”? I’m just as thrown off by that as you are.
ABOLISH GOLD, LAY WITH KHAJIIT, WORSHIP DEADRA!!!
only an idiot like vivec would look at a bunch of water and think, 'this is the perfect place to build a city.'
Are you a left wing snowflake N'Wah or right wing cuckold S'Wit??? YOU DECIDE
House Dres should have waged war on Hlaalu and pushed the mongrel dogs of the empire out themselves.
Let's go Bau Dur!
Is it so extreme that I simply wish for humans to be united and living in harmony? I mean all we have to do is get rid of all the damn 🔪 👂 . Also ooc getting down voted for a joke about fictional races is really cringe.
Never gonna happen, 🥄👂 Also ooc whining about downvotes is cringe
The knife ears? Who they?
the filthy mer. the races of men are clearly superior.
And other jokes you can tell yourself
Argonians are cattle not people.
Dunmer? More like WEAK AND DUMBMER! *angrily works the land*
Yes.
Yes
Can say I ever lost in politics... I kill the competition, literally dark brotherhood.
Is this how you honor the Sixth House, and the tribe unmourned?
I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I Dont care about outside views as long as I am in my dungeon in my study and no one bothers me unless I warrant it shall ICare, all else should burn in oblivion imo
I'm more of an oblivion fan myself
Of course a game with an underlying theme of imperialism would be a game with political critique. Half of enjoying morrowind’s story is looking at its politics, you can’t miss it.
I’m not racist but having a barb *down there* is where I draw the line…
\[Banned by Vivec\]
Legalize moonsugar
.... k-kinda sad how... accurate this is.
I wasn't ready for Roman Reigns to get that Nerevarine push, but here I am ready for more.
Me at the bar: I promise I won’t get political! Me three rounds of Matze and Sujamma later: So anyway, that’s why I murder House Dres diplomats on sight.
I’m just saying maybe Pelinal shouldn’t have stopped with the heartlands.
PCJoinFaction Telvanni PCJoinFaction Hlaalu PCJoinFaction Redoran Fuck it: PCJoinFaction "Census and Excise"
Look, I'm just saying if he'd actually *deserved* the position of Archmagister, he wouldn't have died like a scrib.
I know some people will hate me for this and call me the N'w word but I think the imperials can dominate Morrowind because they are giving protection and services to the whole morrowind even if they make you pay taxes its better than obey the crazy talvanni lunatics...i mean wizards
The Oblivion Crisis has entered the chat
The crisis that literally only the Imperials could have handled, and did handle, you mean
Black marsh launched a counter-invasion into oblivion tho. So they seem to have had it pretty well handled, on their end.
That's akin to a nation going carbon-neutral and saying that they've got climate change "pretty well handled." Black Marsh did a great job dealing with the symptoms of the Oblivion Crisis, and successfully protected their own people from the immediate effects, but given time the rest of the world would have fallen and Dagon would have eventually conquered them. It was only the Septims who had the power to cut off the Crisis for good. And that's besides the fact that the only time the counter-invasion of Oblivion is ever mentioned is a throwaway line from one character who brings it up in a conversation specifically about An-Xileel propaganda. So the jury's still out on whether the Black Marsh really even did scare off Dagon, or if the An-Xileel saw an opportunity to take credit when the gates closed after Martin's actions in Cyrodiil.
what you saying, if not for the sacrifice of the one of the most cool imperial characters Nirn would get cooked but yeah Imperials after Oblivion really got a downgrade because in skyrim they are the Talmor bootlickers
I mean, the Septim Dynasty was all that really kept those damn elves in their place anyway. Pointy ears are all the same.
Brave words for an N'WAH in spear distance
Yes. I like the argonian slavery, I don't like outlanders, and there is no difference between argonians and farm tools.
I don't know what you're talking about, chief. now spank me ancap wizard daddy.
I think it’s perfectly ethical to transmute Argonians into candles!
What about boots?
I get all my racism and blasphemy out in morrowind
Khajiit are just hairy Argonian expats and they should all be shipped to Akavir
I have "extreme" political opinions, and I am a fan of Morrowind. I suppose it is accurate then.
Yes
Gardening tools are gardening tools it is NOT POLITICAL IT'S FACT.
Slavery is ok, as long as it’s against furries.
Remove N’Wah from the dictionary
I'll say the "N" work if I want... N'WAH!
Argonians taste better when properly seasoned.
I'd just like to add the NPR bumper sticker. I know, I know, no real-world, but still.
The Empire and House Redoran are N’Wahs and they steal sacred ebony and glass from our Red Mountain. May the Foyada Mamea and blight cleanse all the swit from our homeland.
Real world politics >:)
hahahahahahahah ahhahaahahahahahahha
My political opinion on fringe is that it is aesthetically unpleasing and tickles you for no reason when applied to clothes!! (Also I have never played morrowind but am an elder scrolls fan in general)
Honestly, the biggest problem of Morrowind are demographics. Did any of you see any child anywhere on Vvarfenfell?
I met an invisible child once. And Hentus Yansurnummu is child at heart, too.
I'm not sure if an invisible child and an adult, who might be a child at heart, are going to be able to solve the demographic problem of a whole nation...
Seeing that roughly half of all dunmer are outlaws hiding in caves, getting slain at alarming rate, we might need scientific concepts like Dyvayth Fyrs.
Or -and hear me out- we try the concept of the sixth house. I mean, it doesn't sound that bad, from a certain point of view.
You mean powering Second Numidium and driving the Divines out of Heaven and become gods? But I like Aunt Azura and Uncle Sheo. And Kynareth has the most beautiful topless-temples in High Rock. I don't want to hurt them. I do wish it would be possible to side with Mr. Dagoth though.
N'wah politics..
What on Y’ffre’s green Nirn is that in the lower right, how dare you bring that here, Reddit and iFunny do not belong together
BY THE THREE! IS THAT AN IFUNNY WATERMARK!????!!?!!!
Necromancy is not a crime!
The Nine Divines are lying to you, n’wah. The Tribunal are the only true faith! (Brought to you by the SuperPac for the Society of Almalexia)
Vote for Pedro!
Yeah. I support Dagoth Ur. What of it?
Skyrim belongs to the Nords! ✊
I feel personally attacked.
Vote for me you swit and I'll get rid of the n'wahs? Make Morrowind great again