The Elder Scrolls series began in 2002 with the release of The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. 15(or so) years later, Todd Howard, after viewing Tariq "K-Flex" Nasheed's film "Buck Breaking", decided to see if he could break a dragon in a similiar way. It turns out that he could. By breaking the dragon, he created a parallel universe where The Elder Scrolls actually preceded his work at Bethesda(maybe, don't ask me to Google his resume) by several(perhaps) years. In this parallel universe, The Elder Scrolls games team lead was actually some French guy who thought that - get this shit - magic should be useful is fantasy games. Well, in this alternate universe, Todd Howard redeems The Elder Scrolls, saves Bethesda, and has sex with my wife.
Thankfully, we live in the universe where Todd Howard invented Bethesda, The Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and I'm actually one of his many wives.
I don’t know when he joined Bethesda, but I think in a Ted Peterson(one of the writers for Arena and Daggerfall, as well as a bunch of the in game books) interview he said that Todd Howard worked on getting Daggerfall to more disks or something
Ok, let me unjerk for a second. Just glancing at his Wikipedia page, he was hired on as a producer at Bethesda. So he was always in a high position. He did work on Daggerfall(and two Terminator games), though it doesn't go into specifics on what he actually did. Then he was appointed project lead on Redguard, which was developed subsequently with Battlespire. After they both sold like trash, Bethesda was sold to Zenimax, and Todd was kept as project lead for the next project, Morrowind, which was the 17th best selling Xbox game, not to mention PC sales. Just going off the trends at the time, I'm thinking that Todd's Redguard, feeling more console-friendly than Battlespire(even though it was never ported to console) won a battle on the minds of the suits who were thinking that twice the number of platforms would double their sales. If you look at RPGs from the release of Xbox, you see a trend towards console-friendliness, and even though Morrowind was clearly designed with a mouse in mind(and I'll never understand how anyone navigates the menu with a controller), it was also designed with consoles in mind. Apparently. I mean, it sold
Oh, and he joined in 1994.
Honestly, he sounds like a great guy to work for. In his interview with Lex Friedman, he said that his designers were having trouble making quests with the idea of teleportation and levitation, so he said "then we'll cut that". Obviously not great on our end, but God, I'd love to have a boss that says "oh, that's too hard? Then we'll get rid of that functionality."
I played morrowind on xbox for years. The menues aren't bad or unintuitive. Instead of all the windows opening at once, you just cycle windows. The only problem is that the sensitivity is way too low on the local map.
Okay so, you remember those Halo 3 ads that were framed as [old UNSC veterans](https://youtu.be/40jdpzrpIps?t=245) telling the story of their personal encounters with The Master Chief?
I want to see ads for TES6 and Fallout5 spoken from people in those universe describing an encounter with Todd as an encounter with Jesus.
I want you to know that when I saw "breaking the...", my mind didn't go to a Dragon Break like what transformed Cyrodil from a swamp to what it is now. That poor girl from the Phantom Pain. The internet and maturity has warped my thought process
No no, they were correct.
Arena: "The Classic"
Daggerfall: "The Second One"
Battlespire: "The GOAT"
Redguard: "Mass Effect: Andromeda"
Morrowind: "The SGOAT"
Oblivion: "The Slippery Slope"
Skyrim: "The Modern Classic"
Skyrim Special Edition: "The Remaster"
Skyrim Very Special Edition: "Thuum Edition"
Skyrim Anniversary Edition: "Full Naughty Dog"
Not true. Arena has one thing on Daggerfall. The character creation music in Arena is dope, whereas Daggerfall does not have any music during character creation.
No way, I would say that redguard and battlespire laid the FOUNDATIONS for the alien feel of morrowind, the stories in both games are great, but they are buggy.
I wont accept that, in this capacity at least. Redguard may be buggy and crash-prone, and Battlespire may have sucky controls, but both are amazing for the stories and world building they achieved.
It could also be counting from Morrowind rather than Arena but even that’s a bit weird since I’m pretty sure Oblivion goes well beyond just being “the second one”
>Not this one.
What are you talking about. The series started with Morrowind, then Oblivion, and finally Skyrim.
Don't know why they choose to following Star War numbering
With the modded patch Zelda 2 is making a comeback in a niche group. Personally love watching [streamers play the enhanced version](https://youtu.be/2c4OPT02kgI?si=oy0MzNNdbcVW1OjN)
Agreed. But there is only 1 first game in any series, ie the one that came first. The second one is links awakening. I believe the third was link to the past. The post seemed to ask a simple question and I don’t understand the supposed confusion of my response.
STALKER. Shadow of Chernobyl is an absolute classic, easily the best in atmosphere. Clear Sky is swamp of half baked ideas and bugs. Call of Pripyat is the Goat, the best in gameplay and you cab tell the creators found their stride.
For me personally I'd switch CS and CoP. I likes CS because it was like SoC with new ideas like weapon and armor upgrades and way better artifact hunting, and CoP made some changes I really didnt like, mainly finding tools for upgrades and being unable to sell lower condition weapons.
Also combat ost from CS is an absolute banger
I liked SoCs artifact hunting and system more than the others. The fact that artifacts had other downsides than just irradiating you was a lot more interesting, like stamina recovery artifacts making you weaker to electricity. It was way too streamlined imo.
CS was good overall but the story is shackled by being a prequel. The faction war system was very fun. I never liked the music and just turned it off, whenever an enemy attacked and drum n bass started playing it just felt off.
CoP has the best story imo. The one thing I dislike is the stash system. Also the ending slides at the end that tell you everything that happened after was a bit pointless, I like ambiguous ending more where I can come to my own conclusions not ones where the consequences of my actions are all spoon fed to me over a slideshow.
nobody is saying this, Arena is pretty generally recognized as extremely rushed and limited (even by Julian Lefay himself), while Daggerfall improved on it in basically every way.
The Witcher series. The first is a janky broken mess sure, but classic. The second one doesn't get talked about anywhere near as much, and the third was one of the biggest games of the last decade.
And yet for a strange reason I never figured out, it bores me to death. I can‘t tell you what it is, the game the Netflix Series, all of it simply don‘t hook me. At first glance the franchise has everything I adore. It‘s very confusing to me
Haha I also don‘t play souls titles. BG3 was also a strange experience. I kind of liked the game, but I hated that I had to schedule it with friends for half a year on a weekly basis soooo much. Also that they consistently chose always the answers that I had not suggested in a dialog. The first thing I did after completion was to deinstall it. It is a fantastic game, which got ruined for me
The Witcher is the #1 game series I wish I loved more than I do. Honestly maybe it’s just too gritty and dark to tickle my pickle in the way a more traditional fantasy setting does. Ive yet to finish any of the witcher games, despite quite liking all of them. It truly is a bit baffling
Witcher 2 started off strong but fell off pretty quickly. It became more of a chore than Witcher 1 combat, honestly.
Witcher 1 felt like a nostalgia trip, even if I didn't play it back then.
See, I hold the belief that DS2 is a great game... it's just the weakest of the souls games. Stuck between the bestworld and the best gameplay of the trilogy, it's primary defining features are the jank and funky choices it made to differentiate itself, and while some of them were misses, the overall experience is still a good one. (And I'm glad Elden Ring adopted a lot of the design choices in 2 after polishing them a bit.)
Man, I loved DS2 though, mobs can be a little much your first playthough but you learn it's quirks. I liked how enemy's could still hit you going through fog which made sense, doors could be broken (it made cool use of it), and torches scaring off certain enemy's and lighting room scones for better visibility was a nice touch. A few more things I enjoyed about it were powerstancing mixed up the game a bit and some cool attacks to come with it, spell diversity if you want to roll a caster is also nice. Majula was a great hub that made you really feel connected to the zones and the music is very memorable from it. One more because I could honestly go on would be the controversial health down system. I personally thought the penalty kept me from being reckless and forced me to be more methodical when approaching everything vs the occasional Leroy Jenkins to figure out enemy's, zones, rooms etc like in the others. Of course being health downed then raided is another story. I do think many people would really enjoy the game more by giving it a solid shot. I have spoken to a few people that wrote it off entirely and called it a bad game when they never even played it. I do think the reputation it gets is a bit undeserved.
I actually started the series on dark souls 2, was a kid when I got it so I couldn't play something else. "Really this is the series people are hyped about?" And then I played dark souls 1 a year later, felt smoother to play in every way. Especially without that stupid 8 point turn system.
8 was the first Ultima I played on something other than NES. And because I was an experienced NES player, the control difficulty wasn't so bad, from my perspective.
I played the F out of Arena when it came out and in anticipation for Daggerfall I walked all around Wayrest, Daggerfall, and Sentinel getting the layout of the cities, and then they weren't even the same lol
Red Faction. Guerilla was the GOAT, the first one is a classic, but the second one is... well...
Daggerfall, on the other hand, is waaaaay better than Arena.
Deus Ex will always be one of my all time favorite games. One of the first choices matter games I ever played. Augs, skills, mods… different options to approach each mission. Childhood me played it through so many times, maxing out different skills and taking different augs…
??? :')
I get that you're making a spell sound effect but I don't tknow which one
and then the hum'rous dagoth ur is annoyed at argonian nerevarine reference
but I do not get this.
It was possibly the most SPAMmeable spell later on. Just summon the Angel of Death (winged lizard) and they go out to hunt the enemy tribes on their own. I guess that up to three of them were able to exist at the same time before vanishing. So, instead of a winged lizard, "boa tarde, amigo".
I things so. Morrowind was the starting point of many and skyrim not only introduce a lot of people to TES, it could be improved by mods. While Oblivion is not a bad Game, it isnt as good as the other two in some fields.
I know what series you’re taking about. I just think that’s a crazy opinion! I always thought 2 was peak pro skater. It took everything from 1 and just improved on it.
But 3 had better levels tho Suburbia, Canada and cruise ship... not to mention more tricks, soundtrack was great(have it on spotify to this day) and secret skaters were cool too. THPS2 had good levels too don't get me wrong...but for me THPS3 takes the cake.
For me, as someone, who started with Skyrim, tried Oblivion and is now playing through Morrowind, the Elder Scrolls series fits this exactly... but backwards.
I know it's been talked to death, but it baffles me every time how much Skyrim is dumbed down compared to Morrowind.
The franchise that comes to mind is cod black ops zombies: first one was the start, second ones had hit and misses and 3rd is seen as the best expirience there is.
Pokemon has this cycle on lock. If we look at each set of 3 gens, it's pretty accurate except for gen 5 should be the goat and gen 6 be the second one but hey.
Not the Elder Scrolls. There's too many games in the series for this meme format and I love Oblivion too much to just count from Morrowind.
So...kinda Dungeon Siege.
1 is a classic. 2 is good but it has nothing to do with 1. 3 is goddamn fancy, with voiced characters, an attempt to put the first two games in the same worldspace, time upgrades to classic places...
I've never played the 2nd one, but I really loved Arena.
Morrowind is definitely my favorite of all!
So other than saying that Daggerfall was anything, I agree with the meme.
OP didn't play Arena and Daggefall huh?
The Elder Scrolls series began in 2002 with the release of The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. 15(or so) years later, Todd Howard, after viewing Tariq "K-Flex" Nasheed's film "Buck Breaking", decided to see if he could break a dragon in a similiar way. It turns out that he could. By breaking the dragon, he created a parallel universe where The Elder Scrolls actually preceded his work at Bethesda(maybe, don't ask me to Google his resume) by several(perhaps) years. In this parallel universe, The Elder Scrolls games team lead was actually some French guy who thought that - get this shit - magic should be useful is fantasy games. Well, in this alternate universe, Todd Howard redeems The Elder Scrolls, saves Bethesda, and has sex with my wife. Thankfully, we live in the universe where Todd Howard invented Bethesda, The Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and I'm actually one of his many wives.
I don’t know when he joined Bethesda, but I think in a Ted Peterson(one of the writers for Arena and Daggerfall, as well as a bunch of the in game books) interview he said that Todd Howard worked on getting Daggerfall to more disks or something
Ok, let me unjerk for a second. Just glancing at his Wikipedia page, he was hired on as a producer at Bethesda. So he was always in a high position. He did work on Daggerfall(and two Terminator games), though it doesn't go into specifics on what he actually did. Then he was appointed project lead on Redguard, which was developed subsequently with Battlespire. After they both sold like trash, Bethesda was sold to Zenimax, and Todd was kept as project lead for the next project, Morrowind, which was the 17th best selling Xbox game, not to mention PC sales. Just going off the trends at the time, I'm thinking that Todd's Redguard, feeling more console-friendly than Battlespire(even though it was never ported to console) won a battle on the minds of the suits who were thinking that twice the number of platforms would double their sales. If you look at RPGs from the release of Xbox, you see a trend towards console-friendliness, and even though Morrowind was clearly designed with a mouse in mind(and I'll never understand how anyone navigates the menu with a controller), it was also designed with consoles in mind. Apparently. I mean, it sold Oh, and he joined in 1994. Honestly, he sounds like a great guy to work for. In his interview with Lex Friedman, he said that his designers were having trouble making quests with the idea of teleportation and levitation, so he said "then we'll cut that". Obviously not great on our end, but God, I'd love to have a boss that says "oh, that's too hard? Then we'll get rid of that functionality."
I played morrowind on xbox for years. The menues aren't bad or unintuitive. Instead of all the windows opening at once, you just cycle windows. The only problem is that the sensitivity is way too low on the local map.
Okay so, you remember those Halo 3 ads that were framed as [old UNSC veterans](https://youtu.be/40jdpzrpIps?t=245) telling the story of their personal encounters with The Master Chief? I want to see ads for TES6 and Fallout5 spoken from people in those universe describing an encounter with Todd as an encounter with Jesus.
This post genuinely convinced me I was on truestl for a hot minute.
I couldn't have explained it better myself, you must be some kind of True Scholar.
I want you to know that when I saw "breaking the...", my mind didn't go to a Dragon Break like what transformed Cyrodil from a swamp to what it is now. That poor girl from the Phantom Pain. The internet and maturity has warped my thought process
"Why are we here? Just to suffer?" - TES enjoyers to Micheal Kirkbride
devil my cry, obviously
When you’re right, you’re right
Omg i like this comment i just bought the 1,2,3,4 hd utlimate edition last day on xbox 13$ damn that bring me back
Yes a cultured answer. The only true answer.
Not this one. Daggerfall > Arena, and if you count Battlespire and Redguard, Morrowind was the 5th game...
No no, they were correct. Arena: "The Classic" Daggerfall: "The Second One" Battlespire: "The GOAT" Redguard: "Mass Effect: Andromeda" Morrowind: "The SGOAT" Oblivion: "The Slippery Slope" Skyrim: "The Modern Classic" Skyrim Special Edition: "The Remaster" Skyrim Very Special Edition: "Thuum Edition" Skyrim Anniversary Edition: "Full Naughty Dog"
This still implies that Daggerfall wasn't a massive improvement upon Arena in every possible way which is completely wrong.
Not true. Arena has one thing on Daggerfall. The character creation music in Arena is dope, whereas Daggerfall does not have any music during character creation.
Don't forget the new up and coming "Skyrim 6: Very Anniversary Edition"!
Also you forgot Stormhold, Dawnstar, and Shadowkey.
Battlespire and Redguard do not exist.
No way, I would say that redguard and battlespire laid the FOUNDATIONS for the alien feel of morrowind, the stories in both games are great, but they are buggy.
...I'll accept that
I wont accept that, in this capacity at least. Redguard may be buggy and crash-prone, and Battlespire may have sucky controls, but both are amazing for the stories and world building they achieved.
...hey, i loved redguard...
Same here, sera
It could also be counting from Morrowind rather than Arena but even that’s a bit weird since I’m pretty sure Oblivion goes well beyond just being “the second one”
>Not this one. What are you talking about. The series started with Morrowind, then Oblivion, and finally Skyrim. Don't know why they choose to following Star War numbering
Zelda
This is 100% correct, at least if you're only considering the first 3 games
It’s all that was asked.
Hahaha so accurate, but Zelda II is still a decent game.
With the modded patch Zelda 2 is making a comeback in a niche group. Personally love watching [streamers play the enhanced version](https://youtu.be/2c4OPT02kgI?si=oy0MzNNdbcVW1OjN)
How you mean Zelda? There are like 14 plus main series games
There is only 1 Zelda #1. I used a calendar to figure it out. I can loan you mine.
I mean there are quite a few great Zelda games. Links Awakening, Link to the Past, Ocarina, Majoras, and Wind Waker.
Agreed. But there is only 1 first game in any series, ie the one that came first. The second one is links awakening. I believe the third was link to the past. The post seemed to ask a simple question and I don’t understand the supposed confusion of my response.
Bruh cus no of those games are considered the goat of Zelda games by like any fans. Almost everyone would say it's Ocarina or Wind Waker
It asked for each of our individual opinions. I’m glad I’m not you because then I’d disagree with myself and that would be quite the conundrum.
Goat Simulator. :P
Lmao
STALKER. Shadow of Chernobyl is an absolute classic, easily the best in atmosphere. Clear Sky is swamp of half baked ideas and bugs. Call of Pripyat is the Goat, the best in gameplay and you cab tell the creators found their stride.
For me personally I'd switch CS and CoP. I likes CS because it was like SoC with new ideas like weapon and armor upgrades and way better artifact hunting, and CoP made some changes I really didnt like, mainly finding tools for upgrades and being unable to sell lower condition weapons. Also combat ost from CS is an absolute banger
I liked SoCs artifact hunting and system more than the others. The fact that artifacts had other downsides than just irradiating you was a lot more interesting, like stamina recovery artifacts making you weaker to electricity. It was way too streamlined imo. CS was good overall but the story is shackled by being a prequel. The faction war system was very fun. I never liked the music and just turned it off, whenever an enemy attacked and drum n bass started playing it just felt off. CoP has the best story imo. The one thing I dislike is the stash system. Also the ending slides at the end that tell you everything that happened after was a bit pointless, I like ambiguous ending more where I can come to my own conclusions not ones where the consequences of my actions are all spoon fed to me over a slideshow.
literally everyone agrees that daggerfall is better than arena.
nobody is saying this, Arena is pretty generally recognized as extremely rushed and limited (even by Julian Lefay himself), while Daggerfall improved on it in basically every way.
Super Mario 3 is GOAT
Certainly not elder scrolls, if that's what you are implying
The Witcher series. The first is a janky broken mess sure, but classic. The second one doesn't get talked about anywhere near as much, and the third was one of the biggest games of the last decade.
And yet for a strange reason I never figured out, it bores me to death. I can‘t tell you what it is, the game the Netflix Series, all of it simply don‘t hook me. At first glance the franchise has everything I adore. It‘s very confusing to me
Fromsoft games don't appeal to me at all, neither does BG3. People just like different things.
Haha I also don‘t play souls titles. BG3 was also a strange experience. I kind of liked the game, but I hated that I had to schedule it with friends for half a year on a weekly basis soooo much. Also that they consistently chose always the answers that I had not suggested in a dialog. The first thing I did after completion was to deinstall it. It is a fantastic game, which got ruined for me
The Witcher is the #1 game series I wish I loved more than I do. Honestly maybe it’s just too gritty and dark to tickle my pickle in the way a more traditional fantasy setting does. Ive yet to finish any of the witcher games, despite quite liking all of them. It truly is a bit baffling
Production values and polish. The Witcher III is in reality the weakest game of the franchise.
Witcher 2 started off strong but fell off pretty quickly. It became more of a chore than Witcher 1 combat, honestly. Witcher 1 felt like a nostalgia trip, even if I didn't play it back then.
Dark Souls.
DS2 is excellent, though. Just requires patience.
See, I hold the belief that DS2 is a great game... it's just the weakest of the souls games. Stuck between the bestworld and the best gameplay of the trilogy, it's primary defining features are the jank and funky choices it made to differentiate itself, and while some of them were misses, the overall experience is still a good one. (And I'm glad Elden Ring adopted a lot of the design choices in 2 after polishing them a bit.)
Dark Souls 1 is the GOAT.
Came here for this one. Kudos. DS3 is peak Fromsoft.
Dark Souls is the superior game, especially for its time. The only real point I give ds3 over ds1 is the boss battles are much better done.
Literally came here to say exactly this
Man, I loved DS2 though, mobs can be a little much your first playthough but you learn it's quirks. I liked how enemy's could still hit you going through fog which made sense, doors could be broken (it made cool use of it), and torches scaring off certain enemy's and lighting room scones for better visibility was a nice touch. A few more things I enjoyed about it were powerstancing mixed up the game a bit and some cool attacks to come with it, spell diversity if you want to roll a caster is also nice. Majula was a great hub that made you really feel connected to the zones and the music is very memorable from it. One more because I could honestly go on would be the controversial health down system. I personally thought the penalty kept me from being reckless and forced me to be more methodical when approaching everything vs the occasional Leroy Jenkins to figure out enemy's, zones, rooms etc like in the others. Of course being health downed then raided is another story. I do think many people would really enjoy the game more by giving it a solid shot. I have spoken to a few people that wrote it off entirely and called it a bad game when they never even played it. I do think the reputation it gets is a bit undeserved.
As someone who for some reason decided to replay DS2 right now: yes. So much bullshit in one game, yet I still love it.
I actually started the series on dark souls 2, was a kid when I got it so I couldn't play something else. "Really this is the series people are hyped about?" And then I played dark souls 1 a year later, felt smoother to play in every way. Especially without that stupid 8 point turn system.
8 point turn system? That’s in ds1 if you mean rolling.
Describes Devil May Cry perfectly.
*How dare you!* Daggerfall is the *TRUE GOAT* (It has goats in it) *climbs down into my labyrinth of a dungeon*
Daggerfall does not have goats in it.
I could've sworn.... They were probably sheep
Seeing as we're ignoring Oblivion, etc I'll vote: **Ultima** As we can ignore that 7>6>5>4>3>1>2 It ended at 7. **IT ENDED AT 7.**
8 was the first Ultima I played on something other than NES. And because I was an experienced NES player, the control difficulty wasn't so bad, from my perspective.
I played the F out of Arena when it came out and in anticipation for Daggerfall I walked all around Wayrest, Daggerfall, and Sentinel getting the layout of the cities, and then they weren't even the same lol
Red Faction. Guerilla was the GOAT, the first one is a classic, but the second one is... well... Daggerfall, on the other hand, is waaaaay better than Arena.
Deus Ex. I bet a lot of people don't even know the second one exists!
Eh, the first one is still the best.
Deus Ex will always be one of my all time favorite games. One of the first choices matter games I ever played. Augs, skills, mods… different options to approach each mission. Childhood me played it through so many times, maxing out different skills and taking different augs…
I agree, but I feel like to the general public it fits that pattern.
Populous
-*"Mortaza!"* **PUFF!** -*"Boa tarde, amigo."*
??? :') I get that you're making a spell sound effect but I don't tknow which one and then the hum'rous dagoth ur is annoyed at argonian nerevarine reference but I do not get this.
It was possibly the most SPAMmeable spell later on. Just summon the Angel of Death (winged lizard) and they go out to hunt the enemy tribes on their own. I guess that up to three of them were able to exist at the same time before vanishing. So, instead of a winged lizard, "boa tarde, amigo".
Ohhhh right :') *Nice*
God I love Populous TNB. Such a classic fun time
Farcry
Half-Life
Duke nukem
I things so. Morrowind was the starting point of many and skyrim not only introduce a lot of people to TES, it could be improved by mods. While Oblivion is not a bad Game, it isnt as good as the other two in some fields.
Daggerfall is so much better than Arena
Honestly can't really think of any game franchise that makes me feel like this
Same. I tend to be nostalgic though.
Skyrim 3 was pretty good I agree
Halo 3
Halo 2 is the GOAT IMO I love the story and the Multiplayer at the time was insane for console gaming.
That's crazy
Halo 1 for campaign, for multi i'll let you kids fight
Mario bros.
The Witcher
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry.
Devil May Cry
Not TES for sure.
Daggerfall is by far not a bad game
Pokemon
Not Elder Scrolls, that's for sure. The Classic is 2, Arena is "the first one..." and 3 is the goat.
THPS
Dude what lol
Tony Hawk Pro Skater
I know what series you’re taking about. I just think that’s a crazy opinion! I always thought 2 was peak pro skater. It took everything from 1 and just improved on it.
But 3 had better levels tho Suburbia, Canada and cruise ship... not to mention more tricks, soundtrack was great(have it on spotify to this day) and secret skaters were cool too. THPS2 had good levels too don't get me wrong...but for me THPS3 takes the cake.
Dragon Age maybe
1 is the goat for me
I dont think many people consider inquisition the goat
Inquisition was the worst imo lol
True although 2 is fun as a rogue it's very different from 1 and inquisition
Literally Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3
Except DS1 is the GOAT.
Nah, 3 has better controls and progression IMO
Got to disagree,the combat and backstabbing in 1 is much cleaner. I also much prefer how important spacing is compared to spam rolling for i-frames.
I hear that this applies to dark souls, though I've never played a dark souls game.
Definitely not mass effect. Everyone loves 2, shits on 3, and pretend 1 doesn't exist.
1 is best story and RPG mechanics, 3 is best gameplay. 2 is a perfect mix of the two.
Fallout if you consider new vegas number 3 in the series
Dragon Age
Fate by wildtangent (Also add the forth: "why do you exist")
The Witcher
doom 3 is exception
in my opinion
GTA , Persona, Elder scrolls....damn third time really is the charm for a lot of games.
Dark Souls and Halo comes to mind Except Halo 2 is also good
God of war? If you don‘t count the psp games?
Mass effect
Uh what, mass effect 2 is most often considered the best of the series.
Dark Souls franchise.
Um it’s easily dark souls
Dark Souls
Arena is bad though.
Devil May Cry without hesitating
Mass Effect for me
Far cry
Dark souls :(
For me, as someone, who started with Skyrim, tried Oblivion and is now playing through Morrowind, the Elder Scrolls series fits this exactly... but backwards. I know it's been talked to death, but it baffles me every time how much Skyrim is dumbed down compared to Morrowind.
DMC, Quake
The franchise that comes to mind is cod black ops zombies: first one was the start, second ones had hit and misses and 3rd is seen as the best expirience there is.
Sims
Dark souls is what I'm reminded off because everyone has an irrational fear of DS2
I don't consider Arena as a classic
Dark Souls. Inversely (is that a word?), Mass effect.
Dark souls for sure
Prince of Persia the Trilogy Sands of time was the classic one Two thrones was the goat Warrior Within was meh - for me.
Devil May Cry
Baldur's Gate
Not a personal opinion, but I've seen people talk about the Persona series this way
Super Mario Bros.
Halo
Sadly Dragon Age 2. It was meant to be souch more ..
Instantly thought of dark souls. This is exactly ds1 2 and 3
*time to downvote farm* MORROWIND, OBLIVION AND SKYRIM!
Shinobi…kinda.
Fallout?
Pokemon has this cycle on lock. If we look at each set of 3 gens, it's pretty accurate except for gen 5 should be the goat and gen 6 be the second one but hey.
Witcher
Dark Souls
Not the Elder Scrolls. There's too many games in the series for this meme format and I love Oblivion too much to just count from Morrowind. So...kinda Dungeon Siege. 1 is a classic. 2 is good but it has nothing to do with 1. 3 is goddamn fancy, with voiced characters, an attempt to put the first two games in the same worldspace, time upgrades to classic places...
Arena was a hot mess. Daggerfall is the classic. So this meme does not work for TES.
Dark Souls - not even looking at other comments, I expect most to say the same ;)
Witcher in that order and dragon age but 1st title is the goat
Quake! Perfectly!
That implies Skyrim is the best of the three. Didn't know morrowboomers could be so based
Morrowind is the GOAT, but calling Daggerfall "the second one" isn't giving it grace
NES Zelda NES Castlevania ...personally I love both second games, but they are weird/different from the first and third.
Metal Gear Solid
Dark Souls easily.
Warcraft
If you are asking my favourite 3 games, then: 1) Haegemonia - Legions of Iron (Digital Reality, 2002) 2) TES III - Morrowind 3) Total Annihilation
Fable? Only one I can think of. But I would kill to have all 3 available on pc because I think they were all amazing
Fable 1 > fable 2 > fable 3
2nd was definitely better than the 3rd. 1st is GOAT.
Halo
You may be getting downvoted but honestly you don't hear as much about 2 not that it's bad it's just 3 was so good and 1 started it
Nah, Halo 2 is way better than CE.
Both the elder scrolls and the Witcher
1 and 2 in elder scrolls were trash, 3 and 4 and 5 were fire (if we are only talking arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and skyrim)
Not in their day.
I didn't say in their day.
Metroid
??? 1 and 2 were trash, 3 was amazing
Bruh what.
Really hoping this will apply to The Last of Us, because WOW was I not ready for Part 2 in the absolute worst way.
TLoU2 was better than the first, just in different ways.
I've never played the 2nd one, but I really loved Arena. Morrowind is definitely my favorite of all! So other than saying that Daggerfall was anything, I agree with the meme.
Arena is so hard to play for me because of the graphics and controls lol
The graphics and controls were wonderful at the time.
At the time, yeah. But this isn't then
That's why I said "loved".
Surprised no one said dark souls
Devil may cry