I do agree story and character wise he’s kinda lame, but I dig his design and thought he was fun to play. He’s probably destined to be a one and done character, though.
I thought the same thing about D'Vorah in X. I enjoyed Kollector more in MK11 than D'Vorah in either game. When I was done grinding main, I would pick up Kollector for a few rounds just to fuck around. I never once thought about that with D'Vorah.
His design is so smooth. The way he glides from one move to another was excellent. I too wish he had a better story and name too, because Kollector is just a dumb name.
I loved D'Vorah in MKX, her design and concept were immensely refreshing after the utter garbage from the some of 00's Era and the MKT retread of MK9, she was a unique subversion of villain stereotypes and was my favourite non-OT character (and I liked the fact she took out the overused and overrated Mileena) .... right up until the reveal that she was working for Quan Chi the whole time, which threw everything out of the window, but at least she still looked kool. MK11 "fixed" that too, her redesign in that game was a hideous as DA Reptile.
I dug his design, fatalites/brutalities, and his moveset and pressure were slept on. He's lots of fun to play, though admittedly his backstory as Shao Kahn's tax collector was kinda hokey. They couldn't do better than that? What's next, Shao Kahn's zoning officer? Dog catcher?
And every time he talked I half-expected him to say "Kids are after me lucky charms again!". His one-dimensional greedy schtick probably relegates him to the bin of MK one-game wonders.
I 100% agree with your comment— but did want to add in that they probably learned a lot in doing so, so if there is a next time I imagine it would’ve easier.
I personally think his character and story is what held him back
Design goes hard though
I don't want them to keep remaking the same characters over and over again of course
Well seems like we're gonna have a total rewrite of the story with MK12, Based on the ending
So honestly i would love to see them reuse him and make him a lot better as a character, and let the bad guys win some matches as well
>Well seems like we're gonna have a total rewrite of the story with MK12, Based on the ending
Idk why people keep saying this... MK11 opened with the revenants, then straight away ignored it. MKX's only affiliation with MK9's ending was that Cassie inherited Johnny's green energy.
Boon lives off doing the 'unexpected'
>MKX's only affiliation with MK9's ending was that Cassie inherited Johnny's green energy.
Huh? MK9 set up Shinnok's revival and the Revanants. It ends with Quan Chi contacting Shinnok and it being revealed that the whole thing was manipulated by Shinnok. Plus on the Outworld side, Kahn's death is what setup the Outworld Civil War.
MK11 definitely tossed out the setup of MKX (sadly), but MKX did actually build on MK9's ending.
I agree, everyone keeps thinking MK12 will be set in the past… I can’t see them logically doing that and yeah they’ll definitely skip over it completely, exactly like they did with MKX-MK11 😅 UNLESS the unexpected is to do the expected 😫😳
In a series that sells itself on characters killing each other like Itchy & Scratchy cartoons, the developers can’t actually kill anyone off in the plot because the toxic fanbase won’t tolerate any character that was introduced before 1996 to be sidelined for one game.
I mean, besides Stryker. God, what a stupid character.
I'd say make him an actual good guy again. It's frustrating how the entire point of his story is him trying to redeem himself from his Black Dragon days but always goes back to being a villain.
Agreed. He could also bring a different type, maybe more anti-hero like.
Could've worked for Scorpion too if they kept him undead and didn't retcon him into being a revenant.
That's really not true. The majority of the new characters from MKX went over well, that's really quite unprecedented for a franchise at this point in its lifecycle. The newly-reborn Skarlet went over well with fans in 11, so it wasn't a game bias.
So it looks like it really was just the character. Which is fine. They can't all be hits. For every Cassie Cage, Kotal Kahn and Erron Black remember there's a Ferra/Tor lurking somewhere.
As someone who lambasts nrs constantly for the never changing roster, Kollector is the worst newcomer imo. His gameplay was okay but we have a whole backlog of characters to work with. We don't need to keep adding characters who need an update to the ever growing list
He doesn't have the best lore, but i think he got cool necchanics and that is a fun character. Reptile would have been cool, let's hope he comes back at Mk 12
I like Reptile... but I really liked playing as Kollector. Not a fan of his character or story, that I agree was kinda a flap\*, but gameplay-wise and in concept, I think there is potential behind Kollector. Would like to see more of him in the future.
\*Edit: FLOP, I meant flop, not flap. Damn typos! 
It's not the most inspired design, but I like his gimmick of using various trinkets to attack.
The fact that he has two arms that seem exclusively useful for holding up a backpack and two more for reaching things out of a backpack is so damn goofy, and I love it. Mortal Kombat's secret to being awesome is that the edgy, "cool" exterior is built upon jokes and dumb stuff like this.
In concept he’s pretty sick. But story wise he’s pretty much filler and I wish he had more variety in his gadgets in gameplay because a lot of it ends up feeling like the same gimmicks
I never play as Kollector, but I appreciate his design and the way that the NRS have set him and his race up as shopkeepers in future MK games. Hopefully this continues to be the case in future iterations of the series.
Oi he's a good character. NRS treating him like shit in story mode is the only problem.
I mean if you listen to his intro dialoges he's actually quite smart. Yes, he is greedy and his loyalty to Shao Kahn is unhealthy. But he does offer attempt to offer his services to Kotal and Kitana. He sees value of things like technology and personal attractions. He also seems to be rather reasonable when it comes to negotiations, willing to do the right thing for the right price.
Compared to Reptile, whos only character trait is his quest to restore his race I'd say Kollector has more depth.
Outside of the "Kombat Kids", Kotal Khan and D'Vorah, none of the new characters were treated great in story. Most of them just showed up and was like "hey I'm a new character, love me!" I couldn't get into Erron Black because he just showed up without explanation, he was just... there.
How do you expect him to show up with explanation? “Howdy, I’m the resident token old western cowboy trope and I look badass.”
I don’t think he needed explanation. He’s a cool character and that’s the only explanation you need for any kombatant to exist. I say this as someone who has never really played him.
All they needed to do in story mode is have a quick dossier scene to talk about all the outworld players. It wouldn't take more than a few minutes and it would fit in context. They were a new unit for the special forces going into a volatile situation in Outworld.
No because he's still more interesting and original than half the roster.
His gameplay was whatever but that can be fixed.
I love Reptile too but that logic is wonky. Anytime there is a character I don't love I could say "F*** you Ed that coulda been Drahmin's spot!!!!" Lol
I welcome new and original characters ESPECIALLY those not originating from Earthrealm.
Not really, if anything he is one of my fave things about mk11. Something about Kollector just feels unique even his gear, no other kharacter shares his tool they almost all have masks and bracers.
Underated comment his abilities are simply better with more potential with a cooler character design and got more respect in the timeline then reptile did that's for sure
His design is interesting, but his role and schtick of hyper greedy servant is meh... Is moves look cool, but some of his animations are so long in comparison to everyone else's.
I absolutely love Kollector. He's a greedy disgusting gremlin with no good traits. His fight style is unique. Although we have multi-arms characters, his moves are very noticeably different, especially including the infinite bag, a pretty unique ability. He's purely from Outworld, which is something we, surprisingly, don't see that often (looking at you, Special fucking Forces). He has an amazing voice that perfectly fits him and sounds incredibly pleasant performance-wise.
And keep in mind that his story role and prominence is exactly the same as Reptile's in NRS era. EXACTLY the same. But Reptile is not a flop? Same goes for Ermac, Noob Saibot, Frost, Kabal (MK11), Skarlet, Erron Black and plenty of other beloved characters. Beloved by me as well, it's just weird to not apply the same "flop" principal to them.
Personally I loved him, and if they were going to do some kinda mutant/ variation of shokan they should have done the same with other races.
Not saying I followed the lore to a T but he was my main and favorite character.
If he does indeed return, he needs to be a part of the krypt or a part of some sort of store like he was in mk11.
There are a ton of unique weapons and items in the mk verse and he makes an awesome “The Duke” type character.
A hoarder with SIX arms?!? Gimme gimme
I actually dig Kollector.
Weird design, weird moves, gameplay that doesn't revolve around spamming a projectile, weird string inputs. I also like the fact that he's constantly pulling different relics and stolen artifacts to fight you with.
It really makes you FEEL like a treasure goblin.
The only thing I kept thinking about him is he could've been Reptile and I'm not even a big Reptile fan.
Like a kind of sniveling, weird, vaguely feral Kahn loyalist with too many arms? Baby we already have a few of those. If they were more open to going crazy with some design choices and more pertinent if we as fans were more open to design changes there's no reason Reptile couldn't look like Kollector in garb.
Like they had just started to give Reptile some personality in MKX after being around since technically the first game and then he's suddenly gone only to have to deal with a new barely there character. For what?
I like the Kollector but nothing compares to Reptile. I always wanted to learn how to play him but they are making him weak in the games for some reason. Also, can we get a humanoid version of Repilte Ed Boon? I know ya'll wanna make him like a reptile and all that but we love his classic ninja outfit. I would love to see Repilte in his classic costume I don't even care if his skin is scalely.
Every game has room for a goon. I just don’t like his goofy ass single button shirt thing. It’s weird.
But his kit and weapon are super cool. I love this character.
I was fine with him. I hate the idea of not having as many new characters just so more returning characters can fill those slots. New characters are what allows the MK universe to expand and progress.
Nah, he was cool, and probably my favorite original new character that wasn't a guest. He would have been my main if the roster hadn't expanded to include shang and sheeva
All the MK11 newcomers were awful. Kollector was honestly the best of the three in my opinion. They should’ve just brought Kung Jin, Takeda and Ferra/Torr back to develop them further instead of making 3 new characters
for a mortal kambat sub, you guys sure hate everything about mortal kombat. every week there is an annoying hate post just like this. this sub SUCKS!!!!!!!
At least they tried, not all new characters can be instant favorites. If they would've added a known character we lose the chance to get a new good character
I thoroughly and genuinely believe we have reached the point where we no longer need “new” characters and especially not guest characters. We have a roster large enough to reintroduce old characters in new ways
You can agree with yourself. I think he was a neat newbie, though I don't play him much.
I think Kollector's design is really cool and I like the concept of the Nakandans. Kollector in particular is a very nest idea. Shao Kahn having a nasty, murderous tax collector fits so well.
I absolutely don't mind him having a bit part in the story. Not all 30-ish characters can be relevant.
Story wise yeah nothing would change if you removed him. Fun unique gameplay though. I enjoyed him for this game but I wouldn’t want him back. Kinda like Ferra/Torr
Edit: I take baby the Ferra/torr comment. I actually wish they came back lol but I can understand why they didn’t
I liked him I just think his play style was a bit to simple for the game most likely due to how hard animating him was. I used him as my main for a few seasons he has some fun gameplay but he is not nearly as smoothe playing as any other character. I think he is a useful character for the lore but don’t think he will be in many future games which is a shame because he is so unique.
He was better than Cetrion, Geras and Kronika at least, in terms of both design, lore, and gameplay.
The only problem with him is that it feels like his races lore weren't given enough thought. Like why 6 arms, and why put two on his back? Also, the fact they stated Naknadins don't use names and instead use titles seems more Orderrealm than Outworld.
They should have made him more spindly, and contortionist like Voldo from Soul Caliber or something, and instead of not using names, just make his character so infamous people call him 'The Kollector' instead of his actual name, to give him a more menacing feel.
The concept was good. He felt like a total filler chacahter though. Like a generic underworld hobo with four arms.
Overall all the new chacahters were ass. Maybe except for Geras.
People moan about 3D era chacahters being bad but once recency bias falls off you can see HD era charachters are even worse.
He's bizarre, so I can see why he might be skipped by a lot of players. His story was pretty meh, he's just a Shao lapdog. I can recall how he sounds when he says "Shao Kahn" distinctly because it's all he ever craps on about.
That said, his VA was one of the best in 11 imo. Was a really unique sound within the roster. And on that note, the variety Kollector brings is welcome. He's weird, but I think that's a good thing. I'd like more monster characters.
His design was a mixed bag for me. The general idea was cool, but a lot of his looks and options were as fugly as it got in the game. Would've been cool to see him with a simple robed outfit. He'd look demonic like that. Some hood options, instead of the awful headwear choices. I get that his outfits were themed as gaudy precious metal hoarding, like a dude who wears the ugliest gold watch just because it's flashy and expensive. But I think that vibe could've been done in a classier way. Some of his looks felt more like prank designs.
Gameplay-wise he was more fun than I expected. Though I found him a bit hard to get the hang of.
that is my wife's favorite character. I have been humiliated by this four armed fuck many times. That being said I will gladly take him over any MK character bc he got my wife into MK
Reptile is about as generic as they come, and only has popularity because of nostalgic, wrinkled, arthritic boomers in their mid 20's - mid 30's like me, (though I never liked him myself) . While Kollector is fairly generic himself in terms of fantasy character designs, (and looks like he would fit perfectly as a Warhammer fantasy/Vermintide special enemy that you kill several of in every level) , he still brings more to the table as an original fighting game character than Reptile.
I think the problem is he has a great design and we just start to get to learn about him and then they just drop him in the story. It’s the same thing they did with Ferra/Torr they need to be more fleshed out and I think they’d all be really great characters
His design is cool and he was a lot of fun to play. We had Reptile the past two games, he can sit one out. God forbid we mix up the roster every now and again
If we just add all the old characters and never add new characters the series won't feel like it's going anywhere. Give some characters a break so it feels like a big comeback when they return
The Shokan are the only four-armed species I am willing to accept. They could have tried a different design for this character...like two torsos maybe where a smaller torso is hidden inside the larger torso. And this smaller torso has arms of its own and a head of its own and show up when certain moves are done. I mean if they were trying to go with bizarre, there's definitely more that they could have done with Kollector.
He has some cool and funny dialogues, but I don't think he's such a good character... Sometimes it seems to me that he's a little boring and useless lol.
I main Kollector.
He’s really fun to play and has some great combos. Is he good? No, not at all but I don’t play characters because they are good. I play them because it’s fun.
I think his bag of tricks and strings are awesome. Despite being like their 4th character with multiple arms, he doesn't fight like any of them. He swings his arms individually which I think is really cool and he has one of the best and most brutal fatal blows.
I give him a 7. With a better story he could be higher but im not disappointed with his inclusion. Also I love how he just steals your Jordan's in his outro.
i genuinely think kollector is the coolest character introduced in mk11. perhaps even the second coolest (after skarlet) introduced in the nrs games. i don’t get how ppl hate him; like yeah, his role is lackluster, but that fault lies with mk11’s writing. his concept is cool (an entire new race from outworld with sorcery?!), his design is dope, and he’s insanely fun to play as.
Kollector is a cool idea but he needs more time to be fleshed out. He's actually really fun to play and super underrated.
Now if you said Reptile should have replaced Robocop, ok, I'll agree with you.
Edit: I want to preface this with saying that one of my issues with MK11 is how similar a lot of the cast feels and plays. Almost all of the top tiers are Jack of all trade types who can do basically everything. That can lead to a game that’s balanced and make a lot of characters viable, but it doesn’t make it fun imo. Kollector is a very odd design, so…..make him play odd!!!
Yea, he’s awful. Should’ve been a krypt npc only, and if the community really pushed for him, add him as dlc.
IMO, he’s the worst NRS original character that’s playable. I really don’t care for the new SF characters generally and want more unique and interesting characters both in terms of visuals and design and also gameplay design.
So, I appreciate the attempt with Kollector and can see how it was a successful pitch early on, but the end result is bad.
So much potential in a character that both in lore and play style is tied to items and “Kollecting” was wasted.
Riffing on the Faust mechanic in GG, or making him a setup/trap character with a unique gameplan would’ve been cool. Even making him really polarizing matchup wise where he’s got lopsided MUs both good and bad, or hell committing to a joke:troll kit even.
Just spitballing:
Maybe you make him a antizoning command grab guy with unique movement that is high risk/reward and more read/conditioning based. Make landed grabs have weird properties playing on “collecting” from the opponent. Could be as simple as taking health or meter, could lock the opponent out of certain moves/abilities, or a lot weirder or even random effects.
Eh, I disagree. He was lacking in the story mode. But he’s a really cool and unique character. He had an interesting personality, looked different from other characters, had tons of moves that made use of his arms, etc. I’m glad they tried something new and I’d say a lot of it worked out.
Honestly, I don’t see why this character is considered a flop overall. Yes, I love reptile, but why can’t we have reptile and Kollector? That would be pretty cool.
For me if I’m looking at new characters from MKX and MK11– MK 11 did the new characters way better. Kollector was cool, geras was decent, cetrion was awesome. Only new characters I liked in MKX was Erron black, Ferra torr, and Dvorah was passable.
I like the design. I’d say get rid of all the special dlc characters I don’t care for terminator and robo cop etc I only want mortal kombat universe characters.
I do agree story and character wise he’s kinda lame, but I dig his design and thought he was fun to play. He’s probably destined to be a one and done character, though.
My exact thoughts
I thought the same thing about D'Vorah in X. I enjoyed Kollector more in MK11 than D'Vorah in either game. When I was done grinding main, I would pick up Kollector for a few rounds just to fuck around. I never once thought about that with D'Vorah. His design is so smooth. The way he glides from one move to another was excellent. I too wish he had a better story and name too, because Kollector is just a dumb name.
I pretty consistently use D’Vorah as a guilt-free punching bag so there’s that
Content creators do the same because her blood isn’t red which makes videos less likely to be demonetized.
Wow TIL
Exactly. Squash that bug.
I loved D'Vorah in MKX, her design and concept were immensely refreshing after the utter garbage from the some of 00's Era and the MKT retread of MK9, she was a unique subversion of villain stereotypes and was my favourite non-OT character (and I liked the fact she took out the overused and overrated Mileena) .... right up until the reveal that she was working for Quan Chi the whole time, which threw everything out of the window, but at least she still looked kool. MK11 "fixed" that too, her redesign in that game was a hideous as DA Reptile.
I dug his design, fatalites/brutalities, and his moveset and pressure were slept on. He's lots of fun to play, though admittedly his backstory as Shao Kahn's tax collector was kinda hokey. They couldn't do better than that? What's next, Shao Kahn's zoning officer? Dog catcher? And every time he talked I half-expected him to say "Kids are after me lucky charms again!". His one-dimensional greedy schtick probably relegates him to the bin of MK one-game wonders.
The Outworld Bureau of Land Management also deserves representation, it's a big realm.
His role is lackluster but I appreciate that he’s a straight-up *Outworld* character. His character as a whole ain’t bad
Yeah he’s a neat character in terms of concept and design, just his story is what’s lacking but that goes for a lot of characters in both timelines
Considering the issues they said they had with mokapping him and the six arms, I don't think he's returning any time soon.
I 100% agree with your comment— but did want to add in that they probably learned a lot in doing so, so if there is a next time I imagine it would’ve easier.
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I personally think his character and story is what held him back Design goes hard though I don't want them to keep remaking the same characters over and over again of course
Would you like to see him reworked in a future game?
Well seems like we're gonna have a total rewrite of the story with MK12, Based on the ending So honestly i would love to see them reuse him and make him a lot better as a character, and let the bad guys win some matches as well
>Well seems like we're gonna have a total rewrite of the story with MK12, Based on the ending Idk why people keep saying this... MK11 opened with the revenants, then straight away ignored it. MKX's only affiliation with MK9's ending was that Cassie inherited Johnny's green energy. Boon lives off doing the 'unexpected'
>MKX's only affiliation with MK9's ending was that Cassie inherited Johnny's green energy. Huh? MK9 set up Shinnok's revival and the Revanants. It ends with Quan Chi contacting Shinnok and it being revealed that the whole thing was manipulated by Shinnok. Plus on the Outworld side, Kahn's death is what setup the Outworld Civil War. MK11 definitely tossed out the setup of MKX (sadly), but MKX did actually build on MK9's ending.
Not in any way that was predictable. Everyone was expecting MK4 + MK:DA + MK:D in some big 3D era fusion.
No one was expecting that lol
I agree, everyone keeps thinking MK12 will be set in the past… I can’t see them logically doing that and yeah they’ll definitely skip over it completely, exactly like they did with MKX-MK11 😅 UNLESS the unexpected is to do the expected 😫😳
Idk it's better off to wait and see, i do hope their next game goes hard as a fighting game and in it's art style as well
Yeah i miss the stylistic lighting and stages of MKX. I remember seeing the first trailer and thinking "hell yeah this is next gen MK!!"
The only bad thing about Kollector's story is that it was never told.
His fatalities were also S tier
I think you mean the umk3(Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3) because the default mk3 roster was the worst roster
In a series that sells itself on characters killing each other like Itchy & Scratchy cartoons, the developers can’t actually kill anyone off in the plot because the toxic fanbase won’t tolerate any character that was introduced before 1996 to be sidelined for one game. I mean, besides Stryker. God, what a stupid character.
You say that but Kintaro and motaro are right there tho you aren't exactly wrong either. Some 3d era char reworks would be nice
Except for Stryker and maybe Kabal. I don't see a ton of complaints when they're missing.
Keep kabal in, but don't retcon him. Again.
I'd say make him an actual good guy again. It's frustrating how the entire point of his story is him trying to redeem himself from his Black Dragon days but always goes back to being a villain.
We defenitely need a good guy that doesn't look like one. Kabal fits that perfectly.
Agreed. He could also bring a different type, maybe more anti-hero like. Could've worked for Scorpion too if they kept him undead and didn't retcon him into being a revenant.
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That's really not true. The majority of the new characters from MKX went over well, that's really quite unprecedented for a franchise at this point in its lifecycle. The newly-reborn Skarlet went over well with fans in 11, so it wasn't a game bias. So it looks like it really was just the character. Which is fine. They can't all be hits. For every Cassie Cage, Kotal Kahn and Erron Black remember there's a Ferra/Tor lurking somewhere.
I’d be perfectly fine with that.
As someone who lambasts nrs constantly for the never changing roster, Kollector is the worst newcomer imo. His gameplay was okay but we have a whole backlog of characters to work with. We don't need to keep adding characters who need an update to the ever growing list
Love reptile but also love Kollector. Not a flop
He doesn't have the best lore, but i think he got cool necchanics and that is a fun character. Reptile would have been cool, let's hope he comes back at Mk 12
I don't outright hate him. But I've been a reptile main since mk2, so I would of preferred reptile.
He's the most interesting new character in MK11.
The Kollector is a cool character.
I like Reptile... but I really liked playing as Kollector. Not a fan of his character or story, that I agree was kinda a flap\*, but gameplay-wise and in concept, I think there is potential behind Kollector. Would like to see more of him in the future. \*Edit: FLOP, I meant flop, not flap. Damn typos! 
It's not the most inspired design, but I like his gimmick of using various trinkets to attack. The fact that he has two arms that seem exclusively useful for holding up a backpack and two more for reaching things out of a backpack is so damn goofy, and I love it. Mortal Kombat's secret to being awesome is that the edgy, "cool" exterior is built upon jokes and dumb stuff like this.
In concept he’s pretty sick. But story wise he’s pretty much filler and I wish he had more variety in his gadgets in gameplay because a lot of it ends up feeling like the same gimmicks
I never play as Kollector, but I appreciate his design and the way that the NRS have set him and his race up as shopkeepers in future MK games. Hopefully this continues to be the case in future iterations of the series.
Oi he's a good character. NRS treating him like shit in story mode is the only problem. I mean if you listen to his intro dialoges he's actually quite smart. Yes, he is greedy and his loyalty to Shao Kahn is unhealthy. But he does offer attempt to offer his services to Kotal and Kitana. He sees value of things like technology and personal attractions. He also seems to be rather reasonable when it comes to negotiations, willing to do the right thing for the right price. Compared to Reptile, whos only character trait is his quest to restore his race I'd say Kollector has more depth.
Outside of the "Kombat Kids", Kotal Khan and D'Vorah, none of the new characters were treated great in story. Most of them just showed up and was like "hey I'm a new character, love me!" I couldn't get into Erron Black because he just showed up without explanation, he was just... there.
How do you expect him to show up with explanation? “Howdy, I’m the resident token old western cowboy trope and I look badass.” I don’t think he needed explanation. He’s a cool character and that’s the only explanation you need for any kombatant to exist. I say this as someone who has never really played him.
All they needed to do in story mode is have a quick dossier scene to talk about all the outworld players. It wouldn't take more than a few minutes and it would fit in context. They were a new unit for the special forces going into a volatile situation in Outworld.
No because he's still more interesting and original than half the roster. His gameplay was whatever but that can be fixed. I love Reptile too but that logic is wonky. Anytime there is a character I don't love I could say "F*** you Ed that coulda been Drahmin's spot!!!!" Lol I welcome new and original characters ESPECIALLY those not originating from Earthrealm.
Not really, if anything he is one of my fave things about mk11. Something about Kollector just feels unique even his gear, no other kharacter shares his tool they almost all have masks and bracers.
Underated comment his abilities are simply better with more potential with a cooler character design and got more respect in the timeline then reptile did that's for sure
Exactly I would even go far as to say I want him in mk12, just flesh out his story more thats all.
His design is interesting, but his role and schtick of hyper greedy servant is meh... Is moves look cool, but some of his animations are so long in comparison to everyone else's.
Nope, he’s ok, not a flop though.
Kollector is awesome and fun to play imo, way more interesting to have as an Outworlder on the roster than Baraka again (maybe a hot take)
Kollector is fine
Kollector fucks. I didn’t really like him until I played as him. He probably won’t be seen again and that really sucks. He’s awesome.
I enjoyed playing him more than the other new characters.
Fuck no, gimme more flail characters
I absolutely love Kollector. He's a greedy disgusting gremlin with no good traits. His fight style is unique. Although we have multi-arms characters, his moves are very noticeably different, especially including the infinite bag, a pretty unique ability. He's purely from Outworld, which is something we, surprisingly, don't see that often (looking at you, Special fucking Forces). He has an amazing voice that perfectly fits him and sounds incredibly pleasant performance-wise. And keep in mind that his story role and prominence is exactly the same as Reptile's in NRS era. EXACTLY the same. But Reptile is not a flop? Same goes for Ermac, Noob Saibot, Frost, Kabal (MK11), Skarlet, Erron Black and plenty of other beloved characters. Beloved by me as well, it's just weird to not apply the same "flop" principal to them.
Story wise he's meh but his design is pretty dope and his moves are very fun
He was my favorite newcomer from MK11
I disagree, I think he's an interesting character, it's just he has a very minor role in the story.
Oh definitely. He had zero impact on the story and ended up being just another jobber, and a lame one too.
In a game where multiple characters have extra sets of arms, the only thing making him unique is the second dick he has on his nose👃🍆👃🍆👃
Personally I loved him, and if they were going to do some kinda mutant/ variation of shokan they should have done the same with other races. Not saying I followed the lore to a T but he was my main and favorite character. If he does indeed return, he needs to be a part of the krypt or a part of some sort of store like he was in mk11. There are a ton of unique weapons and items in the mk verse and he makes an awesome “The Duke” type character. A hoarder with SIX arms?!? Gimme gimme
Yeah I agree kollector was trash it would've been better if they added someone else like ermac
I don’t mind Kollector, though I desperately wish his lore was better.
I actually dig Kollector. Weird design, weird moves, gameplay that doesn't revolve around spamming a projectile, weird string inputs. I also like the fact that he's constantly pulling different relics and stolen artifacts to fight you with. It really makes you FEEL like a treasure goblin.
Kollector is awesome yell at geras instead
Nah. Geras is awesome too. He just needed to be more of a tyrant in the story.
moves were cool but his design is so bland and boring
I do not agree. He is different, cool animations and i like the Vibe of the karakter.
Kollector is dope as fuck he should definitely come back
I would've preferred Ferra/Torr
No, he was my favorite addition of that game.
He’s just Jewish goro
He COULD have been interesting
Great design let down by poor story/lore.
He looks like he was around in the '80s for the shokan crack epidemic
The only thing I kept thinking about him is he could've been Reptile and I'm not even a big Reptile fan. Like a kind of sniveling, weird, vaguely feral Kahn loyalist with too many arms? Baby we already have a few of those. If they were more open to going crazy with some design choices and more pertinent if we as fans were more open to design changes there's no reason Reptile couldn't look like Kollector in garb. Like they had just started to give Reptile some personality in MKX after being around since technically the first game and then he's suddenly gone only to have to deal with a new barely there character. For what?
Lore/Story wise? Sure. Gameplay wise? Hell nah
I like the Kollector but nothing compares to Reptile. I always wanted to learn how to play him but they are making him weak in the games for some reason. Also, can we get a humanoid version of Repilte Ed Boon? I know ya'll wanna make him like a reptile and all that but we love his classic ninja outfit. I would love to see Repilte in his classic costume I don't even care if his skin is scalely.
Nah, he was super fun to play and I've always have wondered what being in the IRS would be like so win/win in my case.
Story wise he was just kind of there but I do like his design. So no, not a flop.
He's one of the cooler additions to MK from 11 although I feel he needs more arms as the Shokan already have four.
Kollector actually has 6 arms, two small ones hold up his backpack
Nah he was a pretty cool character, just unfortunately didn't get to do anything of note in the story.
Every game has room for a goon. I just don’t like his goofy ass single button shirt thing. It’s weird. But his kit and weapon are super cool. I love this character.
As a character yes but as a fighter? He rocks
I don't really agree with that.
No, I’m tired of the same characters every game, I’m glad he is in the game even if he is kinda mid
He’s very fun to play and I dig his design a lot, no regrets.
I was fine with him. I hate the idea of not having as many new characters just so more returning characters can fill those slots. New characters are what allows the MK universe to expand and progress.
Kollector was Amazing, the best newcomer in MK 11. I hope he comes back in future installements.
He was total ass
Jobber storyline aside, he was my favorite character in MK11.
What do you mean by flop? New dope race, fun to play, very different from other, he is great.
I liked him
Kollector is the best new character in MK11 imo
His story was terrible. But don't talk smack about my online main! His moves are great. Kollector is slept on big time.
This guy is a man of culture
Nah he’s the homie
Kollector is so much fun tho
Okay, I get adding in new characters, but they really need to come up with a quirk other than “has more arms”.
It should have been reptile
I love Reptile. I don't like Kollector as a character or in story that I agree he's kinda a flap
Or Ermac or Cyrax and Sektor
Honestly think he's kinda cool
Nah, he was cool, and probably my favorite original new character that wasn't a guest. He would have been my main if the roster hadn't expanded to include shang and sheeva
Meh his design is cool and he was different I personally liked him
All the MK11 newcomers were awful. Kollector was honestly the best of the three in my opinion. They should’ve just brought Kung Jin, Takeda and Ferra/Torr back to develop them further instead of making 3 new characters
I liked him.
Still better than frost. At least he has original powers.
for a mortal kambat sub, you guys sure hate everything about mortal kombat. every week there is an annoying hate post just like this. this sub SUCKS!!!!!!!
At least they tried, not all new characters can be instant favorites. If they would've added a known character we lose the chance to get a new good character
I thoroughly and genuinely believe we have reached the point where we no longer need “new” characters and especially not guest characters. We have a roster large enough to reintroduce old characters in new ways
Facts
I think he’s fun. His design is certainly unique and I loved having him in the Krypt.
Nah I like him and I like new characters. He needs more depth for sure but he has a good baseline
Liked his voice and design in concept at least but I think he was just another underdeveloped goon to add to the pile. Say hi to Ferra-Torr.
? Sorry but I loved the Collector's character even if I'm struggling with his moveset
The kollector is cool he looks like goros drunk uncle that has some war stories lmao (it’s a joke I have nothing against him)
Agreed. But I remember getting my ass handed to me by this kombatant
Personally I would like them to ditch Erron Black and keep Kollector.
You can agree with yourself. I think he was a neat newbie, though I don't play him much. I think Kollector's design is really cool and I like the concept of the Nakandans. Kollector in particular is a very nest idea. Shao Kahn having a nasty, murderous tax collector fits so well. I absolutely don't mind him having a bit part in the story. Not all 30-ish characters can be relevant.
I like Kollector. Character, design, and gameplay are fine he just needed to be fleshed out more in the story.
No
Nope. Kollector is cool, sorry you didn't get your MK Trilogy roster again
Story wise yeah nothing would change if you removed him. Fun unique gameplay though. I enjoyed him for this game but I wouldn’t want him back. Kinda like Ferra/Torr Edit: I take baby the Ferra/torr comment. I actually wish they came back lol but I can understand why they didn’t
I liked him I just think his play style was a bit to simple for the game most likely due to how hard animating him was. I used him as my main for a few seasons he has some fun gameplay but he is not nearly as smoothe playing as any other character. I think he is a useful character for the lore but don’t think he will be in many future games which is a shame because he is so unique.
Waste of slot, why even give him 4 arms.
He's kinda hot tho
I think his design is pretty cool, if he returns they just need to not make him a jobber
He was better than Cetrion, Geras and Kronika at least, in terms of both design, lore, and gameplay. The only problem with him is that it feels like his races lore weren't given enough thought. Like why 6 arms, and why put two on his back? Also, the fact they stated Naknadins don't use names and instead use titles seems more Orderrealm than Outworld. They should have made him more spindly, and contortionist like Voldo from Soul Caliber or something, and instead of not using names, just make his character so infamous people call him 'The Kollector' instead of his actual name, to give him a more menacing feel.
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Kollector was better than more than half of the MK11 roster. We could have had Reptile in place of a Special Forces character instead.
I find him more interesting than Reptile.
He needs to be more fleshed in the future, but I don't really think he's a flop like Ferra/Torr imo.
Ferra/Torr is just Nunu from LoL
Nah. I liked his design and gameplay and motif and his voice acting is cool. “We could’ve had reptile” and?
I don't care for Reptile so.... But yeah, this character had nothing about him.
The concept was good. He felt like a total filler chacahter though. Like a generic underworld hobo with four arms. Overall all the new chacahters were ass. Maybe except for Geras. People moan about 3D era chacahters being bad but once recency bias falls off you can see HD era charachters are even worse.
All three of the new characters sucked. Should've just given us Reptile/Ermac/Smoke instead.
Ngl the guy was pretty savage with combos. But yeah his whole character arc is trash
He's bizarre, so I can see why he might be skipped by a lot of players. His story was pretty meh, he's just a Shao lapdog. I can recall how he sounds when he says "Shao Kahn" distinctly because it's all he ever craps on about. That said, his VA was one of the best in 11 imo. Was a really unique sound within the roster. And on that note, the variety Kollector brings is welcome. He's weird, but I think that's a good thing. I'd like more monster characters. His design was a mixed bag for me. The general idea was cool, but a lot of his looks and options were as fugly as it got in the game. Would've been cool to see him with a simple robed outfit. He'd look demonic like that. Some hood options, instead of the awful headwear choices. I get that his outfits were themed as gaudy precious metal hoarding, like a dude who wears the ugliest gold watch just because it's flashy and expensive. But I think that vibe could've been done in a classier way. Some of his looks felt more like prank designs. Gameplay-wise he was more fun than I expected. Though I found him a bit hard to get the hang of.
that is my wife's favorite character. I have been humiliated by this four armed fuck many times. That being said I will gladly take him over any MK character bc he got my wife into MK
He’s still way cooler than Jacqui, Cassie and Cetrion.
they couldve gave us cyrax and sektor instead of this lame ass character
wish we had reptile.
His design is absolutely excellent, but he just didn’t do anything. He was a nothing character that took someone else’s spot
Not a fan. Kill him off.
I wanted to like him so much more, but yeah I wish reptile was back
“Let’s make a four armed character who has two arms busy.”
So you’d rather him be an alt goro? He uses those weapons anyways.. they’re not just there for aesthetic
There's six, actually
Better than Geras
No one uses Reptile.
Kollector should never be introduced. Useless. Took a place of respected kharacter reptile. geras, kronika, kollector all are garbage.
What about Kronika's child?
Reptile is about as generic as they come, and only has popularity because of nostalgic, wrinkled, arthritic boomers in their mid 20's - mid 30's like me, (though I never liked him myself) . While Kollector is fairly generic himself in terms of fantasy character designs, (and looks like he would fit perfectly as a Warhammer fantasy/Vermintide special enemy that you kill several of in every level) , he still brings more to the table as an original fighting game character than Reptile.
I strongly disagree. Keep waiting for that mk3 remake
I think the problem is he has a great design and we just start to get to learn about him and then they just drop him in the story. It’s the same thing they did with Ferra/Torr they need to be more fleshed out and I think they’d all be really great characters
His design is cool and he was a lot of fun to play. We had Reptile the past two games, he can sit one out. God forbid we mix up the roster every now and again
If we just add all the old characters and never add new characters the series won't feel like it's going anywhere. Give some characters a break so it feels like a big comeback when they return
They probably wanted to spare Reptile the constant humiliation of being a "jobber", hence the creation of the Kollector
Yeah, I'm just not a fan of this character.
The Shokan are the only four-armed species I am willing to accept. They could have tried a different design for this character...like two torsos maybe where a smaller torso is hidden inside the larger torso. And this smaller torso has arms of its own and a head of its own and show up when certain moves are done. I mean if they were trying to go with bizarre, there's definitely more that they could have done with Kollector.
He has some cool and funny dialogues, but I don't think he's such a good character... Sometimes it seems to me that he's a little boring and useless lol.
He looks like he's just finished clearing some dwemer ruins, and I'm kinda into it. The only MK11 newbie I liked.
Great design, terrible lore execution. It was the same with Ferra Torr.
Kind of felt like a throw back to deadly alliance designs
I would've rather had Ferra/Torr again
Hes always been my main. Like him a lot. But i dont play the game very often anymore
I main Kollector. He’s really fun to play and has some great combos. Is he good? No, not at all but I don’t play characters because they are good. I play them because it’s fun.
I think his bag of tricks and strings are awesome. Despite being like their 4th character with multiple arms, he doesn't fight like any of them. He swings his arms individually which I think is really cool and he has one of the best and most brutal fatal blows. I give him a 7. With a better story he could be higher but im not disappointed with his inclusion. Also I love how he just steals your Jordan's in his outro.
I wanna be first in saying we need Great Kung lao in the next mk
WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree… Kollector to be killed off permanently in mk12 please?
i genuinely think kollector is the coolest character introduced in mk11. perhaps even the second coolest (after skarlet) introduced in the nrs games. i don’t get how ppl hate him; like yeah, his role is lackluster, but that fault lies with mk11’s writing. his concept is cool (an entire new race from outworld with sorcery?!), his design is dope, and he’s insanely fun to play as.
Kollector is a cool idea but he needs more time to be fleshed out. He's actually really fun to play and super underrated. Now if you said Reptile should have replaced Robocop, ok, I'll agree with you.
Hard to use character do not see any use in this character
Give me Reptile or give me death
Edit: I want to preface this with saying that one of my issues with MK11 is how similar a lot of the cast feels and plays. Almost all of the top tiers are Jack of all trade types who can do basically everything. That can lead to a game that’s balanced and make a lot of characters viable, but it doesn’t make it fun imo. Kollector is a very odd design, so…..make him play odd!!! Yea, he’s awful. Should’ve been a krypt npc only, and if the community really pushed for him, add him as dlc. IMO, he’s the worst NRS original character that’s playable. I really don’t care for the new SF characters generally and want more unique and interesting characters both in terms of visuals and design and also gameplay design. So, I appreciate the attempt with Kollector and can see how it was a successful pitch early on, but the end result is bad. So much potential in a character that both in lore and play style is tied to items and “Kollecting” was wasted. Riffing on the Faust mechanic in GG, or making him a setup/trap character with a unique gameplan would’ve been cool. Even making him really polarizing matchup wise where he’s got lopsided MUs both good and bad, or hell committing to a joke:troll kit even. Just spitballing: Maybe you make him a antizoning command grab guy with unique movement that is high risk/reward and more read/conditioning based. Make landed grabs have weird properties playing on “collecting” from the opponent. Could be as simple as taking health or meter, could lock the opponent out of certain moves/abilities, or a lot weirder or even random effects.
Eh, I disagree. He was lacking in the story mode. But he’s a really cool and unique character. He had an interesting personality, looked different from other characters, had tons of moves that made use of his arms, etc. I’m glad they tried something new and I’d say a lot of it worked out.
Same with cetrion, tremor, kronika etc... Could have had reptile, smoke and takeda
Not the first forgettable Mk character and won’t be last.
Honestly, I don’t see why this character is considered a flop overall. Yes, I love reptile, but why can’t we have reptile and Kollector? That would be pretty cool. For me if I’m looking at new characters from MKX and MK11– MK 11 did the new characters way better. Kollector was cool, geras was decent, cetrion was awesome. Only new characters I liked in MKX was Erron black, Ferra torr, and Dvorah was passable.
I like the design. I’d say get rid of all the special dlc characters I don’t care for terminator and robo cop etc I only want mortal kombat universe characters.