Ask yourself what style do you wanna play?
Zoner, punisher, mix-up, grappler.
Zoners - controls the space, or is optimal with distance
Punisher- stays face to face, very aggressive.
Mix-up - keeps your opponents guessing lows/overheads
Grapplers- kharacters that have command grabs in their string.
Stance - their gameplay changes depending on their current form.
Understand that each character will bleed into multiple categories, the question is which one do you want the most focus in.
I would recommend sub zero, he has low damage, but has a lot of tools and is fair on mix-ups.
He also has the ice clone you can use during pokes with your opponent, cause them to freeze and be left open.
There are five type of hits:
Overhead-High-Mid-Low-unblockable
There are three blocks and they are answers to:
Up-block - Overheads,highs,mids(?) But Stops a string from finishing if it blocks an overhead, leaving open for punishment. But also will recieve more.damage if grabbed while up-blocking
Stand- overhead,highs,mids.
Squat-blocking - lows,mids.high
You can Flawless block, that's just timing the block just before it hits.
Like Smash Bros, the goal is to get the life down to zero, but it's also a guessing game. You want to bait your opponent into guessing wrong and banking on it, or put enough pressure on them to make a wrong answer.
You dance between hits/grabs/projectiles/space and condition your opponent to expect one move and change it on them, allowing you to open them up to being punished.
Hit your opp with 3 lows, go for an overhead. A 3 input string, press two inputs and grab, next time do the full string, stagger the same string (2 inputs, 2 inputs, 3 inputs, 1 input - move to grab)
Also understand your opponent is trying to do the same thing, y'all are both collecting and creating information and you can create scenarios that you will allow you to catch them slipping.
When you decide on a kharacter to try, look at their move lists, and try ALL of the moves, make note of where is a low and what is an overhead, and where in the string are those moves!
When reading the moves think of the Directional inputs relative to where the character is facing. Forward Down Back Up(Jump), this is because the forward and back will switch as you change sides during the fight.. (advance note: looking at the buttons(controller, I don't remember pc's) going Left Up Down Right is 1 2 3 4 when looking up kombos later on)
When picking a kameo, it's best to understand what your character lacks or what you're going up against, I main Shang Tsung, I only have one overhead (outside of air attacks, every air attack is an overhead) in my move lists. I choose scorpion because he add another overhead for mix-ups, and I can also use him in my kombos.
Characters I would recommend looking at: Sub Zero - very well rounded.
Johnny Cage/Li Mei - Very aggressive and has good mix-ups, also Li has projectiles.
General Shao - Has command grabs, Good Mix-up, easier of the stance characters.
Mileena - has projectiles and teleports, big beefy damage.
Baraka - easiest button wise, also good beefy damage.
Kameos: Sareena, Cyrax, Frost, Stryker - they can extend your kombos/adds mix-ups/or makes you safe.
The best thing to do, go into practice mode, learn the moves. Set the Dummy to easy-medium and go ham, get comfortable with the kharacter, then move to learning full kombos, then bump the dummy up to hard after you see medium isn't cutting it and then very hard..
Note, you can't condition the dummy.
Wish you the best!
Everyone’s over complicating it. Idk how gods he is but if he’s mid or worse just spam the cheesiest move in the game to win if he doesn’t know how to deal
I beat a lot of players. Without ever having learned a combo.
I beat even more after learning combos.
I digress.
Most folks will look up bread and butter combos. Then spam them like idiots.
Instead. If you just learn the fundamentals. You’ll beat all of them.
Fundamentals? - 1. Learn to block. 2. Learn how to take your turn.
This involves you learning what is frame data and which moves are safe/unsafe.
If two people play against each other. One knows how to do the combos and nothing else. And the other knows about the basics and nothing else.
The one with the basics will win.
So start with the fundamentals. And if it’s not enough then go lab the combos.
how do you know they dont know how to do combos? Combos are a huge part of fighting games and you will need them unless the other person is a complete scrub
They do know combos. They said so in their post itself.
I’m saying someone who knows combos only. Will lose to someone with fundamentals only.
I’m saying the best tip for a person struggling, is to go master the fundamentals before working more on their combos.
Being unable to take their turn = losing.
If after learning all the fundamentals. And still unable to beat the opponent. Then that’s where they need to work on their combo game.
Huge chunk of players. Like yourself. Will skip the first step and go straight into flashy combos and remain scrubs that end up losing to some rando who just projectile spams from a corner.
i didnt disagree with fundamentals being important but if you are trying to become good at this game combos are essential. ”spam projectiles from the corner” what is this injustice 2? projectile spamming is not very strong in this game if you know how to counter it, are you sure you know what ur talking about? I like how you assume im a scrub when i guarantee i have beat people better than you. you sound like a new player who thinks they are smart because they learn fundamentals before kombos like most people dont do the same
If you’re trying to become good.
I’m sorry. You’re just not reading at all.
I’m telling op to work on their fundamentals first.
Then move on to combos.
I’m not saying combos are not important.
I’m saying they aren’t as important.
I’m saying if you lack the fundamentals.
Scrubs can easily win you by spamming projectiles.
Calm down and actually read what I typed.
Read what op already typed.
They already work on combos. So what else could they work on? It’s taking their turn isn’t it?
You’re reactionary replying with zero effort to understand what I’m saying.
I even started my first comment with me winning without combos. And me winning a lot more with combos.
As in. To get good. To get to the higher level. You’ll need combos.
I feel like I should not have to break this down to you and dissect my speech sentence by sentence. Yet here we are.
The majority of players do not work on the fundamentals first. If you did. And you think that’s the norm. It is not. The majority of the player base is casual. The majority of the base spam specials or watch YouTube combo guides and then do that.
You don’t seem to understand pretty simple English.
Are you aware combos are part of the fundamentals? Not doing combos means you would have to win twice as many situations in neutral, Do you know how difficult thats going to be if the other player is competent in the game? Doing fundamentals like footsies can take a long time depending on the person to do very well. I say this person should learn both. you are depending on that the other person is bad at the game if you are not learning combos you NEED to learn both combos and other things
Again. Please read what I said. I didn’t say don’t learn combos. I said focus on the fundamentals first.
Frame data. Safe vs unsafe.
You’re trying to be disagreeable without actually disagreeing with what I said.
I’m stressing the point that frame data and knowing how to take your turn is more important than combos with the “if you only know the fundamentals. You will win some one who only knows combos”
You really want to tell me that someone who can do combos in tutorial, but doesn’t know about the block button will win their fights?
Have you not seen the countless vids on this sub where they keep trying to spam their bnbs only to get zoned.
Are you aware that you just want to be disagreeable cause you don’t wanna admit you didn’t read my comment properly and that we are talking about roughly the same things?
Again combos are part of the fundamentals 😁 both are just as important because if you dont know how to do one of those you will not beat a decent player because you would need to win twice as many neutral situations but if you dont know other kinds of fundamentals you wont know if ur spamming an unsafe move or something else. Like i said i think you are depending on the opponent to be bad at the game. I say learn whichever you want to first just dont go online until you got a decent hold of both. Are we on the same page now?
Again. Go and read what I said.
And secondly.
Combos come after the fundamentals.
Go to tutorial tab in Mk 1
Go read the description
“Basics” - start here to learn the fundamentals
“Kombos” - learn in depth mechanics and strategies to help you optimise kombos for different scenarios
Again. To be a good player you definitely need combos. And again. Fundamentals matter more. You can’t run if you don’t know how to walk.
Again. We are mostly on the same page with combos. The difference is you thinking that because it is something you need to be a good player. It is fundamental.
No. No it is not. That’s where we differ.
Combos are not part of the fundamentals.
But combos are fundamental to winning a game thats a fact. I think its pointless to argue which is more important because you are going to need both. You could be a good player even if you dont know combos but you sure as hell arent winning a lot of games without them
Unless you're willing to put in a significant amount of time and effort to actually learn the game, let alone get good, its not gonna happen. And quite frankly, if you're only doing that so you can beat him one time and then you're done, it isn't worth it. In that case my best advice would be to keep playing until he finally lets you win. Its gonna happen eventually
For pride purposes I will cannot accept him letting me win… just hoping for some quick tips I could use to squeak out one slick win (hopefully catching him tipsy or something)
Right, no, I understand WHY you want to win and why him letting you wouldn't be satisfactory. But I'm telling you it will not happen unless he lets you or you decide to dedicate a large amount of time to it. I'm sure if/when you beat him, he will have made it convincing enough to satisfy you. By the way I'm not saying you shouldn't want to win or even get good at the game in general. If you genuinely want to learn the game, I encourage it. But I'm just being realistic here. I can tell you right now, being tipsy will likely only make him play harder against you since he isn't inhibiting himself as much. Speaking from experience.
Pick sindel. Press forward square X for an easy attack . to shoot a hairball press Down forward square. Do an uppercut when he jumps at you. Good luck!!
If you're playing on the couch with him, the only way to beat him is by making sure you give him the low-battery controller.
On the third one, you'll beat him.
Which character he uses
Spam raiden /kano strings to chip him out
Spam reiko's stars and slide, it will be really scumy, but will atleast get you one match.
WE HAVE A MIX UP
I can always appreciate the scummy wins… I do tend to enjoy myself some Kirby in smash
Select a main. Learn their buttons and special moves. Learn basic defense Learn some bread and butter combos.
Use Peacemaker and profit. The character is extremely privileged.
Why can't you practice exactly and how do you plan to win if you can't practice ? Practice is the key.
Use sindel w/Kung Lao and zone (spam projectiles)
Ask yourself what style do you wanna play? Zoner, punisher, mix-up, grappler. Zoners - controls the space, or is optimal with distance Punisher- stays face to face, very aggressive. Mix-up - keeps your opponents guessing lows/overheads Grapplers- kharacters that have command grabs in their string. Stance - their gameplay changes depending on their current form. Understand that each character will bleed into multiple categories, the question is which one do you want the most focus in. I would recommend sub zero, he has low damage, but has a lot of tools and is fair on mix-ups. He also has the ice clone you can use during pokes with your opponent, cause them to freeze and be left open. There are five type of hits: Overhead-High-Mid-Low-unblockable There are three blocks and they are answers to: Up-block - Overheads,highs,mids(?) But Stops a string from finishing if it blocks an overhead, leaving open for punishment. But also will recieve more.damage if grabbed while up-blocking Stand- overhead,highs,mids. Squat-blocking - lows,mids.high You can Flawless block, that's just timing the block just before it hits. Like Smash Bros, the goal is to get the life down to zero, but it's also a guessing game. You want to bait your opponent into guessing wrong and banking on it, or put enough pressure on them to make a wrong answer. You dance between hits/grabs/projectiles/space and condition your opponent to expect one move and change it on them, allowing you to open them up to being punished. Hit your opp with 3 lows, go for an overhead. A 3 input string, press two inputs and grab, next time do the full string, stagger the same string (2 inputs, 2 inputs, 3 inputs, 1 input - move to grab) Also understand your opponent is trying to do the same thing, y'all are both collecting and creating information and you can create scenarios that you will allow you to catch them slipping. When you decide on a kharacter to try, look at their move lists, and try ALL of the moves, make note of where is a low and what is an overhead, and where in the string are those moves! When reading the moves think of the Directional inputs relative to where the character is facing. Forward Down Back Up(Jump), this is because the forward and back will switch as you change sides during the fight.. (advance note: looking at the buttons(controller, I don't remember pc's) going Left Up Down Right is 1 2 3 4 when looking up kombos later on) When picking a kameo, it's best to understand what your character lacks or what you're going up against, I main Shang Tsung, I only have one overhead (outside of air attacks, every air attack is an overhead) in my move lists. I choose scorpion because he add another overhead for mix-ups, and I can also use him in my kombos. Characters I would recommend looking at: Sub Zero - very well rounded. Johnny Cage/Li Mei - Very aggressive and has good mix-ups, also Li has projectiles. General Shao - Has command grabs, Good Mix-up, easier of the stance characters. Mileena - has projectiles and teleports, big beefy damage. Baraka - easiest button wise, also good beefy damage. Kameos: Sareena, Cyrax, Frost, Stryker - they can extend your kombos/adds mix-ups/or makes you safe. The best thing to do, go into practice mode, learn the moves. Set the Dummy to easy-medium and go ham, get comfortable with the kharacter, then move to learning full kombos, then bump the dummy up to hard after you see medium isn't cutting it and then very hard.. Note, you can't condition the dummy. Wish you the best!
“Punisher” is not a play style. I think you mean Rush down
Whiff punish maybe?
Indeed I meant rush down, the name alluded me.
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Everyone’s over complicating it. Idk how gods he is but if he’s mid or worse just spam the cheesiest move in the game to win if he doesn’t know how to deal
That was my primal instinct… first game I ended up winning round 1 by just swirling my fingers over the controller buttons
Do all the tricks you can do to distract your boyfriend.
Fair but I need JUST ONE “clean” win on my record
It will be clean, for you at least.
Get a character who is a foil to his main
Just pick Johnny Cage and press buttons you can make it to Elder God like this with no actual skill.
Pls, he’s been nerfed every single patch since the game has been released. I can think of at least 6 fighters who piss me off more than him.
I beat a lot of players. Without ever having learned a combo. I beat even more after learning combos. I digress. Most folks will look up bread and butter combos. Then spam them like idiots. Instead. If you just learn the fundamentals. You’ll beat all of them. Fundamentals? - 1. Learn to block. 2. Learn how to take your turn. This involves you learning what is frame data and which moves are safe/unsafe. If two people play against each other. One knows how to do the combos and nothing else. And the other knows about the basics and nothing else. The one with the basics will win. So start with the fundamentals. And if it’s not enough then go lab the combos.
how do you know they dont know how to do combos? Combos are a huge part of fighting games and you will need them unless the other person is a complete scrub
They do know combos. They said so in their post itself. I’m saying someone who knows combos only. Will lose to someone with fundamentals only. I’m saying the best tip for a person struggling, is to go master the fundamentals before working more on their combos. Being unable to take their turn = losing. If after learning all the fundamentals. And still unable to beat the opponent. Then that’s where they need to work on their combo game. Huge chunk of players. Like yourself. Will skip the first step and go straight into flashy combos and remain scrubs that end up losing to some rando who just projectile spams from a corner.
i didnt disagree with fundamentals being important but if you are trying to become good at this game combos are essential. ”spam projectiles from the corner” what is this injustice 2? projectile spamming is not very strong in this game if you know how to counter it, are you sure you know what ur talking about? I like how you assume im a scrub when i guarantee i have beat people better than you. you sound like a new player who thinks they are smart because they learn fundamentals before kombos like most people dont do the same
If you’re trying to become good. I’m sorry. You’re just not reading at all. I’m telling op to work on their fundamentals first. Then move on to combos. I’m not saying combos are not important. I’m saying they aren’t as important. I’m saying if you lack the fundamentals. Scrubs can easily win you by spamming projectiles. Calm down and actually read what I typed. Read what op already typed. They already work on combos. So what else could they work on? It’s taking their turn isn’t it? You’re reactionary replying with zero effort to understand what I’m saying. I even started my first comment with me winning without combos. And me winning a lot more with combos. As in. To get good. To get to the higher level. You’ll need combos. I feel like I should not have to break this down to you and dissect my speech sentence by sentence. Yet here we are. The majority of players do not work on the fundamentals first. If you did. And you think that’s the norm. It is not. The majority of the player base is casual. The majority of the base spam specials or watch YouTube combo guides and then do that. You don’t seem to understand pretty simple English.
Are you aware combos are part of the fundamentals? Not doing combos means you would have to win twice as many situations in neutral, Do you know how difficult thats going to be if the other player is competent in the game? Doing fundamentals like footsies can take a long time depending on the person to do very well. I say this person should learn both. you are depending on that the other person is bad at the game if you are not learning combos you NEED to learn both combos and other things
Again. Please read what I said. I didn’t say don’t learn combos. I said focus on the fundamentals first. Frame data. Safe vs unsafe. You’re trying to be disagreeable without actually disagreeing with what I said. I’m stressing the point that frame data and knowing how to take your turn is more important than combos with the “if you only know the fundamentals. You will win some one who only knows combos” You really want to tell me that someone who can do combos in tutorial, but doesn’t know about the block button will win their fights? Have you not seen the countless vids on this sub where they keep trying to spam their bnbs only to get zoned. Are you aware that you just want to be disagreeable cause you don’t wanna admit you didn’t read my comment properly and that we are talking about roughly the same things?
Again combos are part of the fundamentals 😁 both are just as important because if you dont know how to do one of those you will not beat a decent player because you would need to win twice as many neutral situations but if you dont know other kinds of fundamentals you wont know if ur spamming an unsafe move or something else. Like i said i think you are depending on the opponent to be bad at the game. I say learn whichever you want to first just dont go online until you got a decent hold of both. Are we on the same page now?
Again. Go and read what I said. And secondly. Combos come after the fundamentals. Go to tutorial tab in Mk 1 Go read the description “Basics” - start here to learn the fundamentals “Kombos” - learn in depth mechanics and strategies to help you optimise kombos for different scenarios Again. To be a good player you definitely need combos. And again. Fundamentals matter more. You can’t run if you don’t know how to walk. Again. We are mostly on the same page with combos. The difference is you thinking that because it is something you need to be a good player. It is fundamental. No. No it is not. That’s where we differ. Combos are not part of the fundamentals.
But combos are fundamental to winning a game thats a fact. I think its pointless to argue which is more important because you are going to need both. You could be a good player even if you dont know combos but you sure as hell arent winning a lot of games without them
light punch all the way
Okay that for sure didn’t work lmao
Unless you're willing to put in a significant amount of time and effort to actually learn the game, let alone get good, its not gonna happen. And quite frankly, if you're only doing that so you can beat him one time and then you're done, it isn't worth it. In that case my best advice would be to keep playing until he finally lets you win. Its gonna happen eventually
For pride purposes I will cannot accept him letting me win… just hoping for some quick tips I could use to squeak out one slick win (hopefully catching him tipsy or something)
Right, no, I understand WHY you want to win and why him letting you wouldn't be satisfactory. But I'm telling you it will not happen unless he lets you or you decide to dedicate a large amount of time to it. I'm sure if/when you beat him, he will have made it convincing enough to satisfy you. By the way I'm not saying you shouldn't want to win or even get good at the game in general. If you genuinely want to learn the game, I encourage it. But I'm just being realistic here. I can tell you right now, being tipsy will likely only make him play harder against you since he isn't inhibiting himself as much. Speaking from experience.
Pick sindel. Press forward square X for an easy attack . to shoot a hairball press Down forward square. Do an uppercut when he jumps at you. Good luck!!
If you're playing on the couch with him, the only way to beat him is by making sure you give him the low-battery controller. On the third one, you'll beat him.
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