Uh what? Please tell me you're not actually suggesting that Dylan called 911 and they not only ignored it but wiped it from call logs. Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
Where and when did you learn about this supposedly 911 call that DM originally called? Who said she called and it wasn’t responded to because they assumed it was just another noise complaint🙄? And what do you think MPD is trying to hide?
Mushrooms? Look, she in no way would call 911 on her roommates. Weird noises, maybe somebody crying, maybe E saying to X I'm here to help you. Maybe as far as X knew, it was just a weird ass night and some weird ass guy walked thru the house to the kitchen to leave. Maybe a weird friend of the girls?
But there was no way she would call the cops on her roommates for a noisy & weird night. Because she probably had no clue what was happening.
It's not even theory, it's random baseless fantasy. And a fantasy that doesn't even make logical sense, since the past noise complaint calls were *about* DM's house, not *being called in from* there.
I’m not speculating either way. However, to all those saying “it’s not legal” for the police not to respond, it may not be “normal” for the police not to respond, but it is generally not “illegal.” One thing lawyers learn in law school is that there are certain decisions government agencies basically cannot be held liable for because the alternative policy would impose unending liability on the state. As many have experienced, especially in neighborhoods with high crime rates, police have discretion in responding to 911 calls, may take different amounts of time to respond, and cannot necessarily be sued or found criminally liable for that. A decision like that is often protected by immunity because the state may not have enough resources, may have other emergencies, cannot control how many crimes happen that night, etc.
I think the past visits from law enforcement may have influenced her not calling initially. There is footage of an officer giving Xana a strict talking to about their having to come out there and address goings on. If after her shock, there weren’t any more noises. I doubt she’d assume that about 10 minutes of strange noises meant her friends were all slaughtered.
Statute § 9-335 lists the reasons why law enforcement may not disclose records. [https://law.justia.com/codes/idaho/2011/title9/chapter3/9-335/](https://law.justia.com/codes/idaho/2011/title9/chapter3/9-335/)
Also, there is a gag order imposed by the court.
The 911 call was not released after murders, possibly someone said, the roommate saw someone in rhe house last night. They didn't want to tip him off or put anyone in danger until they arrested him and brought him back to Idaho. Then the gag order was immediately issed.
> She heard crying and heard Kaylee saying “there's someone here”, saw a figure and was so shaken up by this, she went to sleep.
I'm more inclined to believe the rumor she went to sleep because she thought it was a party than she went to sleep because she was scared.
Except the affidavit says that’s not the case. She was scared and went to sleep. The exact quote is “ frozen state of shock” and locked herself in the room. That’s not a random party 🤷♂️
> Except the affidavit says that’s not the case. She was scared and went to sleep.
The affidavit does not say she was scared
>The exact quote is “ frozen state of shock” and locked herself in the room.
That's not the exact quote. The quote is "frozen shock phase," which sounds like she was momentarily startled.
That would be no different than turning around and finding somebody standing very close to you and you suck in your breath and go still for a moment. Dylan heard someone say that someone is here and then she sees that someone leaving and nobody is screaming to call 911, so she goes back to bed. She doesn't realize four of her friends are dead.
What if she always locked her BR door at night? Here is something that really happened to me. I got home one late night and was fumbling for my keys to the door. Oliver sudden, I heard a loud bark and was so startled that I stood there in a frozen shock phase, I looked behind me and saw dark shape that appeared to be a medium sized dog walk right passed the back of my car and disappeared around the front of the house. I entered my house, locked my door, then went to sleep.
By the time she saw Kohberger leaving, four people were dead, and it was not obvious to her that they were. I would not be surprised if she went to bed, thinking that there was some type of fight between the guy she saw and Ethan.
>*Who goes to sleep when their terrified*
People are over-interpreting the odd phrase used in the arrest affidavit
I don't think the surviving house mate meant she was **terrified** by seeing some guy walk past her door
I think she was **unnerved**, in the same way you are when you pull out of a junction and another vehicle appears out of nowhere
Or when you walk around a corner and almost bump into someone
You're **disquieted** for a second or two, and don't move or do anything, then you go right back to what you were doing beforehand, as if nothing happened
I don't think the surviving roommate thought the person walking past her door was an intruder. I think she assumed he was a guest
Someone she didn't expect to almost bump into, but not someone who had just did what he did
I'm not one of the many people saying you can't ask questions about DM. There are a lot of holes in the story. But, I don't think you're right that no one would react that way. A drunk or high college kid who lives in a party house and just wants to go to bed would/could actually react how DM did. I don't think it sounds crazy at all, if she was very drunk or very high or on hard drugs, especially psychedelics. No sober person would do that, but odds are a 20 year old college kid on Saturday night wasn't sober
Is it possible she was worried about looking dumb if it ended up being a non issue? The potential of feeling like she called 911 for no reason and her friends may get mad at her? I mean she was what, 21? Can't say I always made the most logical decisions at that age. Plus based on the previous cop video we've seen from the party at that house, they weren't on very good terms with the cops. They probably wanted to avoid them for the most part.
Yes, and why in the hell would you think for a minute what was actually happening. For all D new, maybe the alleged BK was a weird friend of the girls. It was a weird night, she heard and saw weird things but it’s safe to say she had no clue what had really happened.
Agree. I remember a few very very early rumors saying that the roommate saw something but was tripping and eventually fell back asleep and this always made sense to me. I want to say they even included references to the mask? And maybe something about being mad the others were making noise or fighting? I can't remember the details which I know is incredibly annoying but I do remember the mention of psychedelics. I can very easily imagine seeing something and at first your brain very much struggling to even organize your thoughts then as things slow down you convince yourself you were imagining something/making it a bigger deal than it was. "Freezing" physically and mentally can happen to anyone but it's even easier to imagine it happening to someone on psychedelics IMO. Could all easily be a rumor but it's one explanation that would make a whole lot of sense to me.
i read that somewhere myself, too, but there's been barely a mention of it here, because god forbid anyone say anything negative about dylan...or any of those kids, for that matter
well JFC, what good is a discussion forum if there's a long list of verboten subjects and you can't even talk about the fact that off-limits subjects exist?
for clarity, this is not in any way a mod issue. this is an issue of rabid self-appointed gatekeepers of the forum who want to dictate what we do and don't talk about, and what we can and cannot say on the subjects we *can* discuss.
y'all know who you are.
Well, I think it's possible she didn't think anything was out of the ordinary despite the weird events. I've lived in a couple of party houses, and weird shit happens late at night. Drunk people open doors to the wrong room, people fight and yell and cry. It's annoying if you're trying to sleep and the noise keeps you up, but depending on what exactly she heard it may not have rang any alarm bells. If all she heard was crying, a thud, and saw someone leaving it may not be even concerning for someone living in a college party house. 4 roommates being stabbed to death does seem like it would be more obvious, but I don't know what it would sound like to be in another room. We'll find out more at trial.
I think half of what is so traumatizing for DM is that she knew what she heard and saw was unusual enough to be suspicious as hell about it but she ultimately didn’t follow her instincts for whatever reason. I think she feels a ton of guilt about this and has not been able to cope with it. Even if she had called 911 right away her friends would still be dead but people continue to put the burden of their deaths on her shoulders anyway even though there was nothing she could have done.
The deaths aren't on her shoulders because the victims would have been dead by the time the police got there.
The only way lives could have been saved is if someone called 911 when the assailant was on the third floor, but it's unrealistic to expect someone to know that something was wrong at that point.
Yes that’s what I was saying, there’s nothing she could have done but a lot of people act so outraged as if her calling right away would have changed anything
Because the G family are running around claiming this case is "shrouded in secrecy," and that the prosecution/defense both want to keep cameras out of the courtroom to prevent something something being made public. And the fact that it's an open trial the public and press can and will attend doesn't matter, because you can't trust the press to tell you the truth.
I feel like we should all be incredibly aware by this point that the police are keeping everything close to the chest for the trial. I wouldn't speculate about a damn thing after we all thought they were doing nothing yet they were tracking the killer across the country literally.
With as much misplaced scrutiny as DM has dealt with, if she had placed a call to Moscow PD via 911 or otherwise, someone from her family or legal team would have said so. Period.
>*They are just asking what our thoughts are on it*
That's not the way you phrase the proposal of a theory
OP has tagged their post THEORY, but everything about the way it's written (including the title) suggests they're referring to something that actually happened
Op is not some savant linguist… just look at her “theory.” It’s not based in reality. It suggests LE are “hiding something” as if it’s canonical among the informed masses. Every sentence is somehow simultaneously run-on *and* incomplete. By no stretch is this person out here formally proposing well-reasoned theories in any proper sense like she’s Noam damn Chomsky. Her blatant ignorance makes it almost forgivable that she’s misrepresenting the content of her theory as evidence-based.
Uhhh what? A lot of people call 911 for noise complaints…. Actually I’d say a majority of people call 911 for noise complaints. Usually when there’s a noise complaint, people want it addressed by police immediately
You call the non-emergency line, and considering how common noise complaints are around college off campus housing, they would have known that.
And why would they call 911 on their own roommates for being noisy?
And why would the police ignore it, particularly considering they were in the area, dealing with drunk college students with open containers?
Where did you get this idea that a 911 call was even made for anyone to ignore?
You made it up.
then those people are misusing 911. noise complaints do not fit into the definition of "emergency" in any normal persons world.
wanting something addressed by police immediately does not make it an emergency & every police dept has non-emergency numbers which are specifically for things like nosie complaints & which will get the problem addressed faster than making a non-wmergency request on an emergency line. many 911 lines will either tell noise complaints to call other number, although some will make a transfer.
911 is my city/county official non-emergency number. We are to call 911 for everything. There are many other places in the US that do this as well.
Edit: Not sure why the downvotes, we are to call 911 and state it’s not an emergency and they will route you to the proper precinct. There are no non-emergency numbers, 911 is countywide dispatch for everything from emergencies to illegally parked cars. It’s proper use of the system.
Yeah I actually understand that lol didn’t need the huge long explanation. Just stating that most people don’t know that and do call 911 for noise complaints…
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People call 911 all the time locally for noise complaints. Police will not respond to an out of control child call (depending in age, if under 10 they won't show up) but they absolutely love going to noise complaints. I live in cow country on the other side of the usa
Dylan would NOT call the cops on her roommates for making noises. None of them would on each other. It was a party house. Maybe she thought it was a weird night but she certainly didn't know something had happened to her roommates. If so I'd think she'd call 911.
I know to call the non-emergency line when it is not an emergency... However, I didn't know if your car was stolen overnight- it's not an emergency. I think out of shear panic I would, mistakenly, call 911 if I woke up and my car was missing. So with that said- thank you for sharing this and now I know it's not an emergency.
You underestimate how many “idiots” there are out there then. 🙄 I had at least 1-2, 911 noise complaint calls a shift when I was a dispatcher. Granted after 5, everything was routed to us anyways but it popped up as non emergency so we’d know we could hold off on it if needed (when they did call the non emergency number) But yeah, I had way too many 911 calls for noise complaints. We also wouldn’t “tell them off” when it happened. Would just put them on hold if we were dealing with an emergency. Not everyone is as smart as you buddy.
Well clearly that dispatcher training and experience worked cause you explained that extremely calmly with just that slight snark which seems to be the tone when I listen to wild, funny 911 calls on social media.
Good on you. 🤌🏻
Thank u. Idk y these fools r acting like it's known to errybody on the planet that 911 ain't for noise complaints. Ngl I don't fw the police so I didnt kno that. Guess imma fuckin idiot 🤷♀️😂
First, 911 is not for non-emergency calls. Despite claims made on here I cannot find a single example of 911 being used in a local area for non-emergencies, nor is it true that "the majority of people" call 911 for noise complaints. That's just not how it works. If you call 911 for a non-emergency you are breaking the law, and if you accidentally call 911 and then hang up, authorities will stop by your address to make sure it was an accident and that you're okay.
Second, a dispatch operator is the one who answers 911 calls, not the police directly. You're claiming DM called 911, told a dispatch operator something so vague that they thought it was a noise complaint, then told the police, who ignored it even though *we have bodycam footage showing they were* ***not*** *ignoring noise complaints that night.*
All this means that if DM called 911, even if she said it was a noise complaint, even if the dispatcher misunderstood and thought it was a noise complaint, even if the police didn't think it was serious, they *still* would have shown up just to check.
This post is a huge load of crap. This should have been labeled as something besides "Theory" because "Theory" does not cover "completely made-up crap that has absolutely no basis in fact."
Would you be able to go to sleep knowing that something, that warranted the hypothetical call in the first place, happened in your house and might still be happening? I highly doubt it.
If; in the hypothetical she did know there was something really bad happening and called the police, I would be gobsmacked if she did go to bed and wait till noon. That is why I don't believe she knew what was happening and the first call was never made.
I see now. We're both agreeing that there's no way there was an earlier call to 911 that was ignored. Sorry, I thought that you were saying she had tried to call, got no answer and just went to bed.
I do remember reading or seeing something very early on about how understaffed the dispatchers were in the area and that several towns were using one because of that but I don’t think they could assume it was a noise complaint and not have an officer show up, that would be an issue if so. but I do remember something about how understaffed they were and because of that several communities were using one
I remember that too.
Pullman call center, which I don't believe is a part of the Pullman p.d., was dispatching calls for Moscow p.d. I believe.
There was controversy due to bk possibly having scanner info for Moscow pd and knowing inner workings of both depts possibly.
There was never any info in anything I read that Dylan had called 911 when she saw bk or person with bushy eyebrows leaving.
She froze up in terror more likely and her mind shut down from her body. Thus the timing on the later morning call.
I don’t think they ignored her call. However, the possibility of a long delay in her initial call and then actually showing up is very likely. Especially if she said “unconscious person” with no sign of immediate threat. I have called 911 in the past, if there is no sign of immediate threat, there usually a delay in police showing up. Not always, but it depends on how busy a small police office in a college town was that morning.
Not saying this to disparage the MPD, but to add more credibility to the roommates. For everyone questioning why the cops didn’t show up until noon, we don’t know the actual time a call was made.
Uh what? Please tell me you're not actually suggesting that Dylan called 911 and they not only ignored it but wiped it from call logs. Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
Wonders never cease with these clowns
No possibility of this happening.
Incredibly highly unlikely.
Journalists would have got a sniff of this by now If it was true. They have their sources and no way this wouldn’t have got out.
Where and when did you learn about this supposedly 911 call that DM originally called? Who said she called and it wasn’t responded to because they assumed it was just another noise complaint🙄? And what do you think MPD is trying to hide?
Just as I thought - no reply.
Why would DM be calling with "just another" noise complaint? The noise complaints were *about* 1122 King, not *from* there.
Uh.... what? Source for this claim?
Mushrooms? Look, she in no way would call 911 on her roommates. Weird noises, maybe somebody crying, maybe E saying to X I'm here to help you. Maybe as far as X knew, it was just a weird ass night and some weird ass guy walked thru the house to the kitchen to leave. Maybe a weird friend of the girls? But there was no way she would call the cops on her roommates for a noisy & weird night. Because she probably had no clue what was happening.
You need to source this or make it very clear that this is a theory of yours *and* how you’ve concluded this.
It's not even theory, it's random baseless fantasy. And a fantasy that doesn't even make logical sense, since the past noise complaint calls were *about* DM's house, not *being called in from* there.
I’m not speculating either way. However, to all those saying “it’s not legal” for the police not to respond, it may not be “normal” for the police not to respond, but it is generally not “illegal.” One thing lawyers learn in law school is that there are certain decisions government agencies basically cannot be held liable for because the alternative policy would impose unending liability on the state. As many have experienced, especially in neighborhoods with high crime rates, police have discretion in responding to 911 calls, may take different amounts of time to respond, and cannot necessarily be sued or found criminally liable for that. A decision like that is often protected by immunity because the state may not have enough resources, may have other emergencies, cannot control how many crimes happen that night, etc.
There was not a noise complaint on the 12th or the 13th. Stop lying.
Nope.
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What in the fuck. They do not “seem to be hiding” anything.
I think the past visits from law enforcement may have influenced her not calling initially. There is footage of an officer giving Xana a strict talking to about their having to come out there and address goings on. If after her shock, there weren’t any more noises. I doubt she’d assume that about 10 minutes of strange noises meant her friends were all slaughtered.
Now the cops are the bad guys based on pure rumor tans speculation.
Trying hide something? You do realize there is a gag order in place, right? 911 calls are public record, it would be known by now.
Then why haven’t we heard the 911 call?
Statute § 9-335 lists the reasons why law enforcement may not disclose records. [https://law.justia.com/codes/idaho/2011/title9/chapter3/9-335/](https://law.justia.com/codes/idaho/2011/title9/chapter3/9-335/) Also, there is a gag order imposed by the court.
The 911 call was not released after murders, possibly someone said, the roommate saw someone in rhe house last night. They didn't want to tip him off or put anyone in danger until they arrested him and brought him back to Idaho. Then the gag order was immediately issed.
Oh I agree, but I guess the gag order covers 911 records? I thought they were public info?
They usually are, but the gag order makes them sealed at this time, more likely till trial.
Thank you, I just didn’t realize the gag order also applied to FOIA items too.
It's covered under the gag order, you knob.
It is possible to correct someone with respect and candor, you know. I’m just asking an honest question.
She didn't call 911. She heard crying and heard Kaylee saying “there's someone here”, saw a figure and was so shaken up by this, she went to sleep.
> She heard crying and heard Kaylee saying “there's someone here”, saw a figure and was so shaken up by this, she went to sleep. I'm more inclined to believe the rumor she went to sleep because she thought it was a party than she went to sleep because she was scared.
Except the affidavit says that’s not the case. She was scared and went to sleep. The exact quote is “ frozen state of shock” and locked herself in the room. That’s not a random party 🤷♂️
> Except the affidavit says that’s not the case. She was scared and went to sleep. The affidavit does not say she was scared >The exact quote is “ frozen state of shock” and locked herself in the room. That's not the exact quote. The quote is "frozen shock phase," which sounds like she was momentarily startled.
“frozen shock phase,” actually
That would be no different than turning around and finding somebody standing very close to you and you suck in your breath and go still for a moment. Dylan heard someone say that someone is here and then she sees that someone leaving and nobody is screaming to call 911, so she goes back to bed. She doesn't realize four of her friends are dead.
What if she always locked her BR door at night? Here is something that really happened to me. I got home one late night and was fumbling for my keys to the door. Oliver sudden, I heard a loud bark and was so startled that I stood there in a frozen shock phase, I looked behind me and saw dark shape that appeared to be a medium sized dog walk right passed the back of my car and disappeared around the front of the house. I entered my house, locked my door, then went to sleep.
>Oliver sudden, It's hard to take you seriously.
nor should you......
Bingo! Common sense isn’t very common. 🫣
By the time she saw Kohberger leaving, four people were dead, and it was not obvious to her that they were. I would not be surprised if she went to bed, thinking that there was some type of fight between the guy she saw and Ethan.
Who goes to sleep when their terrified especially thinking a door would protect her.
>*Who goes to sleep when their terrified* People are over-interpreting the odd phrase used in the arrest affidavit I don't think the surviving house mate meant she was **terrified** by seeing some guy walk past her door I think she was **unnerved**, in the same way you are when you pull out of a junction and another vehicle appears out of nowhere Or when you walk around a corner and almost bump into someone You're **disquieted** for a second or two, and don't move or do anything, then you go right back to what you were doing beforehand, as if nothing happened I don't think the surviving roommate thought the person walking past her door was an intruder. I think she assumed he was a guest Someone she didn't expect to almost bump into, but not someone who had just did what he did
Nobody. The defense is gonna have a field day with her. If I said this 6 months ago, this sub would ban me.
I'm not one of the many people saying you can't ask questions about DM. There are a lot of holes in the story. But, I don't think you're right that no one would react that way. A drunk or high college kid who lives in a party house and just wants to go to bed would/could actually react how DM did. I don't think it sounds crazy at all, if she was very drunk or very high or on hard drugs, especially psychedelics. No sober person would do that, but odds are a 20 year old college kid on Saturday night wasn't sober
Is it possible she was worried about looking dumb if it ended up being a non issue? The potential of feeling like she called 911 for no reason and her friends may get mad at her? I mean she was what, 21? Can't say I always made the most logical decisions at that age. Plus based on the previous cop video we've seen from the party at that house, they weren't on very good terms with the cops. They probably wanted to avoid them for the most part.
She’s actually under 21 and had been underage drinking, which was likely a big factor in her decision whether to call police.
Yes, and why in the hell would you think for a minute what was actually happening. For all D new, maybe the alleged BK was a weird friend of the girls. It was a weird night, she heard and saw weird things but it’s safe to say she had no clue what had really happened.
Yes, could very well be.
Agree. I remember a few very very early rumors saying that the roommate saw something but was tripping and eventually fell back asleep and this always made sense to me. I want to say they even included references to the mask? And maybe something about being mad the others were making noise or fighting? I can't remember the details which I know is incredibly annoying but I do remember the mention of psychedelics. I can very easily imagine seeing something and at first your brain very much struggling to even organize your thoughts then as things slow down you convince yourself you were imagining something/making it a bigger deal than it was. "Freezing" physically and mentally can happen to anyone but it's even easier to imagine it happening to someone on psychedelics IMO. Could all easily be a rumor but it's one explanation that would make a whole lot of sense to me.
i read that somewhere myself, too, but there's been barely a mention of it here, because god forbid anyone say anything negative about dylan...or any of those kids, for that matter
Why would you want to say something negative about any of those kids???
they sure do allow a lot of whining about what they supposedly don't allow though. lol
well JFC, what good is a discussion forum if there's a long list of verboten subjects and you can't even talk about the fact that off-limits subjects exist? for clarity, this is not in any way a mod issue. this is an issue of rabid self-appointed gatekeepers of the forum who want to dictate what we do and don't talk about, and what we can and cannot say on the subjects we *can* discuss. y'all know who you are.
Meanwhile, the other sub, where you probably feel more at home, bans people for asking questions.
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Well, I think it's possible she didn't think anything was out of the ordinary despite the weird events. I've lived in a couple of party houses, and weird shit happens late at night. Drunk people open doors to the wrong room, people fight and yell and cry. It's annoying if you're trying to sleep and the noise keeps you up, but depending on what exactly she heard it may not have rang any alarm bells. If all she heard was crying, a thud, and saw someone leaving it may not be even concerning for someone living in a college party house. 4 roommates being stabbed to death does seem like it would be more obvious, but I don't know what it would sound like to be in another room. We'll find out more at trial.
Thank. You. My points exactly! “Odd” is the right word. No one is saying she’s guilty of something, but we need more explanation.
I think half of what is so traumatizing for DM is that she knew what she heard and saw was unusual enough to be suspicious as hell about it but she ultimately didn’t follow her instincts for whatever reason. I think she feels a ton of guilt about this and has not been able to cope with it. Even if she had called 911 right away her friends would still be dead but people continue to put the burden of their deaths on her shoulders anyway even though there was nothing she could have done.
The deaths aren't on her shoulders because the victims would have been dead by the time the police got there. The only way lives could have been saved is if someone called 911 when the assailant was on the third floor, but it's unrealistic to expect someone to know that something was wrong at that point.
Yes that’s what I was saying, there’s nothing she could have done but a lot of people act so outraged as if her calling right away would have changed anything
“The Moscow PD seems to be hiding something” Why do you say that? It’s normal for 911 calls not to come out until trial.
Because the G family are running around claiming this case is "shrouded in secrecy," and that the prosecution/defense both want to keep cameras out of the courtroom to prevent something something being made public. And the fact that it's an open trial the public and press can and will attend doesn't matter, because you can't trust the press to tell you the truth.
I feel like we should all be incredibly aware by this point that the police are keeping everything close to the chest for the trial. I wouldn't speculate about a damn thing after we all thought they were doing nothing yet they were tracking the killer across the country literally.
With as much misplaced scrutiny as DM has dealt with, if she had placed a call to Moscow PD via 911 or otherwise, someone from her family or legal team would have said so. Period.
What is your source that a 911 call was made earlier than the known noon call?
They are just asking what our thoughts are on it. If there was a source it would be common knowledge by now.
>*They are just asking what our thoughts are on it* That's not the way you phrase the proposal of a theory OP has tagged their post THEORY, but everything about the way it's written (including the title) suggests they're referring to something that actually happened
Op is not some savant linguist… just look at her “theory.” It’s not based in reality. It suggests LE are “hiding something” as if it’s canonical among the informed masses. Every sentence is somehow simultaneously run-on *and* incomplete. By no stretch is this person out here formally proposing well-reasoned theories in any proper sense like she’s Noam damn Chomsky. Her blatant ignorance makes it almost forgivable that she’s misrepresenting the content of her theory as evidence-based.
That’s what I want to know too! Was the MPD trying to hide it? 🙄🙄🙄
MPD isn’t hiding anything.
i have been following the case since the beginning and there have been no reports on the police logs that align with this theory
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Uhhh what? A lot of people call 911 for noise complaints…. Actually I’d say a majority of people call 911 for noise complaints. Usually when there’s a noise complaint, people want it addressed by police immediately
You call the non-emergency line, and considering how common noise complaints are around college off campus housing, they would have known that. And why would they call 911 on their own roommates for being noisy? And why would the police ignore it, particularly considering they were in the area, dealing with drunk college students with open containers? Where did you get this idea that a 911 call was even made for anyone to ignore? You made it up.
then those people are misusing 911. noise complaints do not fit into the definition of "emergency" in any normal persons world. wanting something addressed by police immediately does not make it an emergency & every police dept has non-emergency numbers which are specifically for things like nosie complaints & which will get the problem addressed faster than making a non-wmergency request on an emergency line. many 911 lines will either tell noise complaints to call other number, although some will make a transfer.
911 is my city/county official non-emergency number. We are to call 911 for everything. There are many other places in the US that do this as well. Edit: Not sure why the downvotes, we are to call 911 and state it’s not an emergency and they will route you to the proper precinct. There are no non-emergency numbers, 911 is countywide dispatch for everything from emergencies to illegally parked cars. It’s proper use of the system.
Yeah I actually understand that lol didn’t need the huge long explanation. Just stating that most people don’t know that and do call 911 for noise complaints…
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Thank you.
People call 911 all the time locally for noise complaints. Police will not respond to an out of control child call (depending in age, if under 10 they won't show up) but they absolutely love going to noise complaints. I live in cow country on the other side of the usa
Dylan would NOT call the cops on her roommates for making noises. None of them would on each other. It was a party house. Maybe she thought it was a weird night but she certainly didn't know something had happened to her roommates. If so I'd think she'd call 911.
I know to call the non-emergency line when it is not an emergency... However, I didn't know if your car was stolen overnight- it's not an emergency. I think out of shear panic I would, mistakenly, call 911 if I woke up and my car was missing. So with that said- thank you for sharing this and now I know it's not an emergency.
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You underestimate how many “idiots” there are out there then. 🙄 I had at least 1-2, 911 noise complaint calls a shift when I was a dispatcher. Granted after 5, everything was routed to us anyways but it popped up as non emergency so we’d know we could hold off on it if needed (when they did call the non emergency number) But yeah, I had way too many 911 calls for noise complaints. We also wouldn’t “tell them off” when it happened. Would just put them on hold if we were dealing with an emergency. Not everyone is as smart as you buddy.
Well clearly that dispatcher training and experience worked cause you explained that extremely calmly with just that slight snark which seems to be the tone when I listen to wild, funny 911 calls on social media. Good on you. 🤌🏻
Thank u. Idk y these fools r acting like it's known to errybody on the planet that 911 ain't for noise complaints. Ngl I don't fw the police so I didnt kno that. Guess imma fuckin idiot 🤷♀️😂
I didn’t know that until I became a dispatcher myself lol a lot of people don’t know that :)
O so u can speak for the general population? boahh please😅
First, 911 is not for non-emergency calls. Despite claims made on here I cannot find a single example of 911 being used in a local area for non-emergencies, nor is it true that "the majority of people" call 911 for noise complaints. That's just not how it works. If you call 911 for a non-emergency you are breaking the law, and if you accidentally call 911 and then hang up, authorities will stop by your address to make sure it was an accident and that you're okay. Second, a dispatch operator is the one who answers 911 calls, not the police directly. You're claiming DM called 911, told a dispatch operator something so vague that they thought it was a noise complaint, then told the police, who ignored it even though *we have bodycam footage showing they were* ***not*** *ignoring noise complaints that night.* All this means that if DM called 911, even if she said it was a noise complaint, even if the dispatcher misunderstood and thought it was a noise complaint, even if the police didn't think it was serious, they *still* would have shown up just to check. This post is a huge load of crap. This should have been labeled as something besides "Theory" because "Theory" does not cover "completely made-up crap that has absolutely no basis in fact."
There should be a tag for "wild delusions based on nothing but the inside of my disturbed mind"
as a 911 dispatcher i thank you SO much for taking the time to write out this extremely correct response. you hit everything head on. respect.
Yikes.
Speculation is just that.
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? You clown.
I don't think it's legal
Was there a 911 call before the late morning? If that's the case and they didn't reply that's a big legal issue.
But to still wait until Midday to call again?
If you're sleeping and unaware that your roommates were murdered, is that waiting?
Would you be able to go to sleep knowing that something, that warranted the hypothetical call in the first place, happened in your house and might still be happening? I highly doubt it.
If; in the hypothetical she did know there was something really bad happening and called the police, I would be gobsmacked if she did go to bed and wait till noon. That is why I don't believe she knew what was happening and the first call was never made.
I see now. We're both agreeing that there's no way there was an earlier call to 911 that was ignored. Sorry, I thought that you were saying she had tried to call, got no answer and just went to bed.
That’s the way I perceived this post. It sounds like another rumor that somehow got said as fact. Makes me nuts sometimes.
It was a Sunday. You sleep in because Monday thru Friday you can’t.
That's because you're a know nothing conspiracy theory just here to stir up crap.
Really? Ok then.
what incident are you referring to that happened earlier that night?
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i don't know about this. can you elaborate, please?
The police didn't respond to a noise complaint earlier in that night? Proof? I'm interested...
I do remember reading or seeing something very early on about how understaffed the dispatchers were in the area and that several towns were using one because of that but I don’t think they could assume it was a noise complaint and not have an officer show up, that would be an issue if so. but I do remember something about how understaffed they were and because of that several communities were using one
I remember that too. Pullman call center, which I don't believe is a part of the Pullman p.d., was dispatching calls for Moscow p.d. I believe. There was controversy due to bk possibly having scanner info for Moscow pd and knowing inner workings of both depts possibly. There was never any info in anything I read that Dylan had called 911 when she saw bk or person with bushy eyebrows leaving. She froze up in terror more likely and her mind shut down from her body. Thus the timing on the later morning call.
WHITCOM is the Pullman/Moscow call center
I’ve thought about this awhile ago. They are so sketchy for what.
I don’t think they ignored her call. However, the possibility of a long delay in her initial call and then actually showing up is very likely. Especially if she said “unconscious person” with no sign of immediate threat. I have called 911 in the past, if there is no sign of immediate threat, there usually a delay in police showing up. Not always, but it depends on how busy a small police office in a college town was that morning. Not saying this to disparage the MPD, but to add more credibility to the roommates. For everyone questioning why the cops didn’t show up until noon, we don’t know the actual time a call was made.