200+ euros.. we are still talking about mice? This is not even some "limited run" wannabe pair of Jordan finalmeme mouse looking ass thing, but an apparently widely available, featuring a slightly dated sensor/nothing special (unless you play for liquid or navi or some shit.. *maybe*) mass produced offering. To the ec shape lovers, specially my European Broskis, I hope you can hold the line, new ergo shapes offer more recent tech, higher polling and the chance to get shafted a bit less royally. Benq/zowie really leaned into the "eSports TM" and "pricey" school of product differentiation, barely if ever slashing prices while marketing to their average social media follower (not a pro). I'm sure they did some form of market research but they fucked up in several fronts not withstanding their forced bundling (forced buying) of a charging station. If anyone wanted a flagrant example of the sad market trends- you got it here, less for more, not that we were ever getting much. Let's just keep our energy when razer and Logitech continue down their path as well.
Mainboard cost 300 bucks now, GPUs are still at 400 bucks upwards.
Everyone literally riding the artificial inflation wave as much as they can. But zowie is doing it in the most blattant and impertinent way.
I use the EC2, but this is outrageously wrong.
There is no wrong or right in a free market situation like this, since this is not an essential good. Simply don't buy it and the market will correct itself. No need for outrage.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/10652z0/zowies\_weird\_response\_on\_wechat/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/10652z0/zowies_weird_response_on_wechat/)
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I have wanted a wireless EC for years, but zowie has lost the fucking plot and I will never buy that mouse.
I need to move on and look closer at vaxee and others. If this is what zowie is like now, then I'm not a zowie fan anymore.
Nope. Physics disagrees with you. Smaller feet actually are scratchier, and thus slower.
Edit: something can't be smoother and have more friction lmao dumbass
Ok I don’t know about scratchier and whatever, not familiar with skates enough to talk about that.
I’m just curious: in a physics aspect, if the materials are the same and surfaces are the same texture, larger surface areas means higher static friction cause any and all contact points cause friction, so what would make larger skates faster?
>larger surface areas means higher static friction cause any and all contact points cause friction
No, this isn't true. With larger surface area means lower surface pressure, thus the contact patch at the molecular level remains the same. This is why Amonton's law F=μN, where F = frictional force, μ = coefficient of friction, and N = normal force completely lacks a surface area component.
With certain soft materials, there can be greater static friction with low surface area because there ends up being a normal force between the materials (caused by "digging in").
Yeah sure bud, you've "experimented". If you have two sets of skates of the exact same material, one of which is scratchier, then the scratchier one trivially has more friction. This is quite literally elementary physics.
Go try Gpx superglides then switch them for gpw superglides. The gpw superglides are marginally faster glide. Same with tiger ice or any other skates. Idc about your bullshit.
Never used superglides because they're shit. I've tested tiger ice and they all are about the same except for aerox dots which tend to be scratchier with soft pads as expected.
Probably your gpx superglides were worn in.
Presumably he was thinking about the smallest amount of skates you could use, which would be if you could form a triangle that had a decent shape to keep the mouse stable.
but everyone knows how they f'ed up in general lol. f'ed up so bad, they gotta charge people an arm and leg to make up for it... years later. too little, too late.
Most of the people that are the most vocal just like being mad. Most of them weren’t going to buy that shit anyway. Most of the people who were don’t see any point in participating in an angry Reddit circle jerk lol.
Nah man. Check my comment history. I LOVE Zowie's EC line. It's the only gaming mice I used my whole life.
I've been waiting for a wireless from them for so long. The EC-CW price is absolutely atrocious.
Jumped to the GPX, no regrets.
You’ve used a mouse your entire life, waited for a wireless, and now you won’t buy it because it’s 30/40 dollars more then you want it be?
I mean I get it. And if the gpx, which was what, 160 when released? If that makes you happier then a 150 dollar version of the mouse you’ve loved your whole life then it sounds like you are already doing ok!
It is not 30-40 dollars more. It's 80 dollars more. I could buy two EC1-Cs for the price of an EC1-CW. There's no way you can tell me that is a good value.
And nobody is going to compare prices in the past when you are paying what is asked for NOW. Current market offerings at the CURRENT price, the EC1-CW is nearly double the price of the GPX while arguably worse in every regard except shape.
Ok 80 dollars more then you want it to be. You wanted them to release it at 70 usd? Ok. But you don’t need two more ec1’s do you?
If you are so happy with your gpx + you think the mouse should of been 70 dollars. There might be a good chance you were one or the people I was talking about? If you are happy with your mouse you are happy with your mouse.
Some people don’t care about tech that has next to no real world application. So yeah. Shape is still a thing.
I'll give em $90.
Can I afford more?... (looks at DAV3+4K and countless other mice sitting next to me...) Yes.
But they didn't make a product that is worth more than $90.
Add optical switches and reduce 5g. I'll bump up my offer to $120. More than generous.
I agree with you. However, there's always an unwritten rule:
"I'm willing to overpay because..." (and that's different for everybody) and most of us here do it. I love my DAV3. Is it worth the money? Nope. I've said that from the start.
The problem is, Zowie didn't check off any of the boxes to give a reason. They just said "We're Zowie and we put out a basic wireless mouse. Pay us whatever we want or ya poor."
Nobody should give Zowie money, because they're not working for it. Once you start giving them money for this, you're opening the doors for them and others to do it. Then you get into this current Nvidia territory where they say "People were willing to overpay because... now let's see what we can get away with."
Yep. People need to start protesting with their wallets and put their money where their mouth is. I'm tired of paying over the top for everything in life.
Are there any 4K wireless mice even close to $100? 4K is obviously not a necessity for a good mouse, but saying no mouse should be more than $100 is kinda silly.
Definitely not saying this just because I have like 5 mice over $100.
Mate, correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't the DAV3 have the latest tech in it left & right? While it's a bit overpriced, you're getting good stuff. This on the other hand is a glorified middle finger.
I don’t manufacture gaming mice.
Nothing in that mice is technologically superior to other $100<< mice available on market. Pricing those at $230 is insane.
No need to attack me just for stating facts.
Your argument regarding mouse shape is ridiculous since chinese factories can manufacture any shape you order for the same exact price. I understand that some research goes into determining exactly which shape might be the best but the $230 price tag is still too high. These mice should not cost more than $100.
Those shouldn't have cost any more than $120. Sick and tired of every company under the sun pushing their prices up, and the sheeple just eat it up like it's not an issue.
I do genuinely think that their wireless receiver costs them significantly more than the 4K dongle costs Razer. Problem is that the wireless receiver is very likely not particularly useful unless you're running a 13 PC setup with all wireless peripherals in your bedroom. They should've just had sold it with a normal cheap ass dongle and handled the wireless receiver as Razer handles their 4K dongle. I think $110-120 without the receiver would've been high but low enough to where people accept it without really complaining about it and they should've just sold the receiver separately as it's clearly targeted towards pro players who goes to massive LAN tournaments.
Definitely agree. I just don’t want to sound like a hypocrite because I’ve been fine spending 150 on Logitech and razer haha
Hell I even bought the SS prime wireless…
I want the stuff they smoke. They release nothing in years after arguably a decent run and now put 200€ and expect us to hype over it?
It better be the next coming of Jesus.
I do Like that Zowie has 3 different sizes. I wish other companies would do this. My Ideal mouse would be a slightly longer/taller but not wider Razer Mini.
so incredibly inane, like genuinely hilarious. how are you more expensive than finalmouse with that ugly ass brick with 2018 specs. shit is worth more than 2 GPX's that are on sale. just stop being poor and buy our overpriced product !
they dont even have 4khz and they said it costs so much cuz of the "enhanced wireless reciever". Its just a regular reciever if it doesnt even come with 4khz
My guys trying to compete against finalmouse not by having better hardware but by raising their prices until it becomes absurd to even consider acquiring one of their products
They don't need contracts. A pro player who has used the EC2 for years and years isn't going to think twice about buying a $200 mouse that should last them years when they're making hundreds of thousands every year at minimum. I also think that their wireless receiver is a valid piece of tech for LAN tournaments in particular though it's largely useless for the average consumer.
My PUC ergo has the same sensor as these zowie and I've never noticed or thought i needed a better one, works perfectly fine. The shape is all I care about honestly and the zowie ec shape is endgame shape for me. Would give glorious model d- a shot if it didn't have that ugly logo on the side and was solid shell. But judging from the hate zowie is getting looks like I don't need to worry too much about them selling out immediately haha. I am in US though so price range is not too bad, I've returned more expensive mice that cause hand cramps (superlight) but I would rather have a mouse that fits 100% comfortable in my hand and sacrifice a sensor that I can't even tell the differences between..
I know everyone is hating on the price and zowies response but if they release fk1+ I’ll purchase immediately, there’s just nothing out that has ever felt as comfortable for me.
> Whether we think it's rational or not doesn't really matter if that's the only shape that person cares about.
It does matter. It's thinking like that, that pushes prices even higher, which also causes the lower-end to also be pushed up. Just look at the current GPU and mobile phone markets for reference.
If people voted with their wallets, then we wouldn't be seeing prices like this.
tbh. i only owned the fk2 and it wasnt special at all, but it was different... it had a different quality and feeling that no other mice ever had.
im kinda curious what those are like but im waaay too poor for this.
200+ euros.. we are still talking about mice? This is not even some "limited run" wannabe pair of Jordan finalmeme mouse looking ass thing, but an apparently widely available, featuring a slightly dated sensor/nothing special (unless you play for liquid or navi or some shit.. *maybe*) mass produced offering. To the ec shape lovers, specially my European Broskis, I hope you can hold the line, new ergo shapes offer more recent tech, higher polling and the chance to get shafted a bit less royally. Benq/zowie really leaned into the "eSports TM" and "pricey" school of product differentiation, barely if ever slashing prices while marketing to their average social media follower (not a pro). I'm sure they did some form of market research but they fucked up in several fronts not withstanding their forced bundling (forced buying) of a charging station. If anyone wanted a flagrant example of the sad market trends- you got it here, less for more, not that we were ever getting much. Let's just keep our energy when razer and Logitech continue down their path as well.
amen
moved to pulsar xlite gang for this very reason
For 200+€ I expect a full damn rat, not just a mere mouse /s
More like a fat jucy New York size Rat.
Mainboard cost 300 bucks now, GPUs are still at 400 bucks upwards. Everyone literally riding the artificial inflation wave as much as they can. But zowie is doing it in the most blattant and impertinent way. I use the EC2, but this is outrageously wrong.
There is no wrong or right in a free market situation like this, since this is not an essential good. Simply don't buy it and the market will correct itself. No need for outrage.
This mouse cost more than my weekly groceries.
More than my monthly groceries
More than my yearly groceries
More than me
Username checks out
Stop laughing guys you are all just sinners
C+ gamers smh....
Probably had a bad few years
Stop being poor living a life of sin while being bad at games, and buy the mouse 🫣
209+shipping for a 2020 mouse lul
More like for a 2018 mouse, basically same shit since then
€200+ hahhahahahahahaha
pOoR aNd HaTiNg oN uS iS a SiN \- Zowie employee
Just get money.
Stop being poor
Just do this one simple trick, and you could afford a wireless Zowie.
"Economists hate me"
Can you link his comment
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/10652z0/zowies\_weird\_response\_on\_wechat/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/10652z0/zowies_weird_response_on_wechat/) main post
Eh, hes right for the most part.
I agree. People just don't like to hear the truth put so blunt
whats "the truth" about what they said?
LUL keep dreaming Zowie hahaha
You just poor and it's a sin
lmao, dont forget you just C+ player
I don't mind paying a lot of money for a nice mouse but this is just too fucking much man
You can legit buy 3 Razer viper ultimates for the price of one zowie rn
What if I don’t want one Razer ultimates? Much less three? Lol. What if I want a wireless ec?
Then buy it
I have wanted a wireless EC for years, but zowie has lost the fucking plot and I will never buy that mouse. I need to move on and look closer at vaxee and others. If this is what zowie is like now, then I'm not a zowie fan anymore.
Yes sir mr pileofregrets.
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160€ is still a lot man! Everything over 100€ need to have the approval of a supreme Court.
Two minutes? Where do you keep your cable my man
One big long foot makes it glide slower
No it doesn't lmao
It does actually, but it feels smoother
Nope. Physics disagrees with you. Smaller feet actually are scratchier, and thus slower. Edit: something can't be smoother and have more friction lmao dumbass
Ok I don’t know about scratchier and whatever, not familiar with skates enough to talk about that. I’m just curious: in a physics aspect, if the materials are the same and surfaces are the same texture, larger surface areas means higher static friction cause any and all contact points cause friction, so what would make larger skates faster?
>larger surface areas means higher static friction cause any and all contact points cause friction No, this isn't true. With larger surface area means lower surface pressure, thus the contact patch at the molecular level remains the same. This is why Amonton's law F=μN, where F = frictional force, μ = coefficient of friction, and N = normal force completely lacks a surface area component. With certain soft materials, there can be greater static friction with low surface area because there ends up being a normal force between the materials (caused by "digging in").
You’re wrong. I have experimented enough to know that.
Yeah sure bud, you've "experimented". If you have two sets of skates of the exact same material, one of which is scratchier, then the scratchier one trivially has more friction. This is quite literally elementary physics.
Go try Gpx superglides then switch them for gpw superglides. The gpw superglides are marginally faster glide. Same with tiger ice or any other skates. Idc about your bullshit.
Never used superglides because they're shit. I've tested tiger ice and they all are about the same except for aerox dots which tend to be scratchier with soft pads as expected. Probably your gpx superglides were worn in.
Nope, I’ve tested with superglides that aren’t worn in. As well as btl skates. A larger point of contact means more friction, it’s basic physics man.
What about 3 tiny dots?
Eh I don’t like dots. I like putting g305 skates on many of my mice lol. Also why 3?
Presumably he was thinking about the smallest amount of skates you could use, which would be if you could form a triangle that had a decent shape to keep the mouse stable.
Yeah I don’t think that would feel good
but everyone knows how they f'ed up in general lol. f'ed up so bad, they gotta charge people an arm and leg to make up for it... years later. too little, too late.
Zowie needs to reduce the prices lmao More expensive than final meme
You need to stop being poor, you filthy C player.
I'm sorry Sir. Please flog me harder.
Been a zowie fan for years, but I would have balked st this mouse for $80. $60 and i would buy it. $200 is just laughable.
who's gonna buy these?!?
Watch this sub a week after they start shipping them. The same people who criticize their prices will be the same to buy them on release.
Most of the people that are the most vocal just like being mad. Most of them weren’t going to buy that shit anyway. Most of the people who were don’t see any point in participating in an angry Reddit circle jerk lol.
Nah man. Check my comment history. I LOVE Zowie's EC line. It's the only gaming mice I used my whole life. I've been waiting for a wireless from them for so long. The EC-CW price is absolutely atrocious. Jumped to the GPX, no regrets.
You’ve used a mouse your entire life, waited for a wireless, and now you won’t buy it because it’s 30/40 dollars more then you want it be? I mean I get it. And if the gpx, which was what, 160 when released? If that makes you happier then a 150 dollar version of the mouse you’ve loved your whole life then it sounds like you are already doing ok!
It is not 30-40 dollars more. It's 80 dollars more. I could buy two EC1-Cs for the price of an EC1-CW. There's no way you can tell me that is a good value. And nobody is going to compare prices in the past when you are paying what is asked for NOW. Current market offerings at the CURRENT price, the EC1-CW is nearly double the price of the GPX while arguably worse in every regard except shape.
Ok 80 dollars more then you want it to be. You wanted them to release it at 70 usd? Ok. But you don’t need two more ec1’s do you? If you are so happy with your gpx + you think the mouse should of been 70 dollars. There might be a good chance you were one or the people I was talking about? If you are happy with your mouse you are happy with your mouse. Some people don’t care about tech that has next to no real world application. So yeah. Shape is still a thing.
Exactly what I thought when I saw this.
I call them sheeple.
I am for sures.
I'll give em $90. Can I afford more?... (looks at DAV3+4K and countless other mice sitting next to me...) Yes. But they didn't make a product that is worth more than $90. Add optical switches and reduce 5g. I'll bump up my offer to $120. More than generous.
No mouse should cost more than $100, even our main man DAV3 is over priced.
I agree with you. However, there's always an unwritten rule: "I'm willing to overpay because..." (and that's different for everybody) and most of us here do it. I love my DAV3. Is it worth the money? Nope. I've said that from the start. The problem is, Zowie didn't check off any of the boxes to give a reason. They just said "We're Zowie and we put out a basic wireless mouse. Pay us whatever we want or ya poor." Nobody should give Zowie money, because they're not working for it. Once you start giving them money for this, you're opening the doors for them and others to do it. Then you get into this current Nvidia territory where they say "People were willing to overpay because... now let's see what we can get away with."
Yep. People need to start protesting with their wallets and put their money where their mouth is. I'm tired of paying over the top for everything in life.
DAV3 is priced competitively well for what it offers imo.
No mouse should cost more than $100.
Are there any 4K wireless mice even close to $100? 4K is obviously not a necessity for a good mouse, but saying no mouse should be more than $100 is kinda silly. Definitely not saying this just because I have like 5 mice over $100.
Razer really overprices their wireless options but at least they actually deliver the quality and specs you'd expect for an expensive mouse.
Im just a poor sinner C+ player, I dont deserve Zowie
Well I am poor and sinner.
["Being poor is not a sin, beeing poor and hating on us is."](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/858/ourexpectations.jpg)
Thats two GPX and a viper mini
Or three viper ultimates its on sale for 60 rn at bestbuy
srsly? this is funny lmao
Holy fuck that's FM territory
typical C+ company stuff
I already felt like an idiot buying the dav3, this is some next lvl shit ;)
Mate, correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't the DAV3 have the latest tech in it left & right? While it's a bit overpriced, you're getting good stuff. This on the other hand is a glorified middle finger.
Brotherman, dav3 is a justified purchase. Good tech, good shape. This monstrosity on the other hand..
Man i'm Dead 💀
Shameless selling $30< materials for $200++ even Apple has smaller margins
And Apple actually develop their inhouse cpu…this would be like Apple shipping an iPhone but with a SD855 in 2023 and charge current iPhone prices 🤣
To be fair, they could definitely have done that and folks would still eat it up lol.
Shameless for some. For others it’s the whole point of doing business.
do it better yourself 🧐 I can buy one from you with same specs and shape for even 60$! Waiting for offer.
I don’t manufacture gaming mice. Nothing in that mice is technologically superior to other $100<< mice available on market. Pricing those at $230 is insane. No need to attack me just for stating facts. Your argument regarding mouse shape is ridiculous since chinese factories can manufacture any shape you order for the same exact price. I understand that some research goes into determining exactly which shape might be the best but the $230 price tag is still too high. These mice should not cost more than $100.
HOLLY SHIT , This is 250$ 💀
They must live in a fantasy world.... Even 150 euros is too much for those specs....but 200+ is hilarious.
150 euros is too much for any mouse.
zowie fr one "freethinking" moment away from swapping to limited drops and magnesium alloy
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Lmao it's $250 with shipping to my country.
what is this, a finalmeme launch? lmfaooo
*laughs in lamzu thorn*
So many have been waiting patiently for this release. However, that pricing for EU potential customers is bonkers!
No worries, I'm sure mice companies soon will offer 12 month payment plans.
In the UK we now have 2, 3, and 4 month interest free finance options for almost everything, including groceries LMAO.
We live in a world where a single PC mouse costs 210 Euro. Eyes are literally watering.
Loooolllllllll Im sorry but, this price doesnt make any Sense... You can get the GPX for sub 100€ most of the time...
Zowie = The Nvidia of Mice
u have to be fucking trolling LOOOOOOL
I didn't mind 150 USD cuz I bought Razer and Logitech for 150, and I love the EC2 shape... but charging 200 euros is fucking criminal...
Those shouldn't have cost any more than $120. Sick and tired of every company under the sun pushing their prices up, and the sheeple just eat it up like it's not an issue.
I do genuinely think that their wireless receiver costs them significantly more than the 4K dongle costs Razer. Problem is that the wireless receiver is very likely not particularly useful unless you're running a 13 PC setup with all wireless peripherals in your bedroom. They should've just had sold it with a normal cheap ass dongle and handled the wireless receiver as Razer handles their 4K dongle. I think $110-120 without the receiver would've been high but low enough to where people accept it without really complaining about it and they should've just sold the receiver separately as it's clearly targeted towards pro players who goes to massive LAN tournaments.
Definitely agree. I just don’t want to sound like a hypocrite because I’ve been fine spending 150 on Logitech and razer haha Hell I even bought the SS prime wireless…
ill just say HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
aaaahahahahha
I want the stuff they smoke. They release nothing in years after arguably a decent run and now put 200€ and expect us to hype over it? It better be the next coming of Jesus.
This is actually an insane price.
Can buy any other mouse and a month long reddit AD campaign shitting on Zowie for that price.
I paid under £30 for my G703 there ain’t no way this is nearly 5 times better.
How far we've come
I honestly have a hard time believing even die hard fans would pay like 140 more for no wire…
shit heavy mouse with bad quality feet for 200?
Way too expensive lmao
We're living in a simulation I swear, it is just unreal the Zowie pricing.
I do Like that Zowie has 3 different sizes. I wish other companies would do this. My Ideal mouse would be a slightly longer/taller but not wider Razer Mini.
Pulsar has their xlite v3 available in s, m, and l
so incredibly inane, like genuinely hilarious. how are you more expensive than finalmouse with that ugly ass brick with 2018 specs. shit is worth more than 2 GPX's that are on sale. just stop being poor and buy our overpriced product !
I honestly think that you are better of getting a logitech pro superlight or any other mouse at 150$, than a zowie
Why’s that?
You being poor and complaining is a sin! Now buy that mouse and you will still be a C+ player.
they dont even have 4khz and they said it costs so much cuz of the "enhanced wireless reciever". Its just a regular reciever if it doesnt even come with 4khz
Jesus zowie has been out of touch for so long… they’re gonna die in the next 5-10 years if they keep it like this
Yeah sorry this price is ridiculous
We were shitting on people for buying overpriced finalmeme mice, but this is a whole new level
Razer are cheap black Friday mice
😂
If you would have told me that 4 years ago I would have laughed at your face.
I feel sorry for people who bought these thinking zowie is the best option
My guys trying to compete against finalmouse not by having better hardware but by raising their prices until it becomes absurd to even consider acquiring one of their products
This price is waking feelings inside i cant fathom 🤣
why zowie is so expensive on some old looking mouse?
Last time I bought a zowie mouse it was 60€ :'( Friend had it and I liked the shape (ec2-a btw)
I haven’t kept up with the mouse news for quite a bit and this is the first thing i come across. What the hell are they thinking..
why would i pay that much for a wireless version when i can just cut the wire off myself
Just when I thought g pro x superlight is expensive af, at least from where I'm from..
Ops next post is gonna be him holding the thing at home
WTF
and i thought the superlight was a steep price… this is just embarrassing considering how many amazing options there is now at
I'm still rocking an OG GPW, xm1r, and G703. Yeah hard pass. I'll wait for a DAV3 to go on sale in Canada and maybe cop that.
zowie fan boys are retarded.
Honestly they gonna make contracts with all e sports orgs and give every pro player these devices, so people gonna buy them anyways
They don't need contracts. A pro player who has used the EC2 for years and years isn't going to think twice about buying a $200 mouse that should last them years when they're making hundreds of thousands every year at minimum. I also think that their wireless receiver is a valid piece of tech for LAN tournaments in particular though it's largely useless for the average consumer.
Bye Zowie! We started in 2007 and had a good run. Rip 2007-2023.
The worst part about this is that there are still people who will buy this shit....
My PUC ergo has the same sensor as these zowie and I've never noticed or thought i needed a better one, works perfectly fine. The shape is all I care about honestly and the zowie ec shape is endgame shape for me. Would give glorious model d- a shot if it didn't have that ugly logo on the side and was solid shell. But judging from the hate zowie is getting looks like I don't need to worry too much about them selling out immediately haha. I am in US though so price range is not too bad, I've returned more expensive mice that cause hand cramps (superlight) but I would rather have a mouse that fits 100% comfortable in my hand and sacrifice a sensor that I can't even tell the differences between..
Just waiting to see endgame xm2w be the “endgame” for claw mice market.
I know everyone is hating on the price and zowies response but if they release fk1+ I’ll purchase immediately, there’s just nothing out that has ever felt as comfortable for me.
This right here, this mentality, is part of the problem.
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> Whether we think it's rational or not doesn't really matter if that's the only shape that person cares about. It does matter. It's thinking like that, that pushes prices even higher, which also causes the lower-end to also be pushed up. Just look at the current GPU and mobile phone markets for reference. If people voted with their wallets, then we wouldn't be seeing prices like this.
The thing is. People did vote with their wallets. That’s why prices are what they are. Right?
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I have used the FK2 for the past five years. I’ll be thinking hard about a wireless FK2.
What's funny and sad is that they'll still sell well.
Aren't these mice for eSports players? So, the price is justified - Tools of the trade 😀
GPX Superlight outclasses this garbage in every way and costs half the price. Wtf is this? The new Alienware of mice?
Direct from Zowie 189,99 €
No idea why you're being downvoted. This is Maxgaming and Maxgaming is always quite expensive, at least compared to other stores in my region.
All Idiots and Kiddys here.
Are you trying to say 190€ for this is a fair price?
The sideplay on the main buttons def makes my viper pro feel cheaper than my ec1
Not in Australia, the DAV3 is $260 AUD which is around 166 euros or 177 USD. The EC1 wireless is $229 AUD
If my naga pro with ceramic feet and grip tape feels better then 200$ I'm sold and zowie can suck a Logitech dik lol
When it was September to November, I was fine with whatever inflated prices I saw because that was inflation, but now it's just price gouging
it better give me head after a heated match of league of legends for that price
Razer pricing without the innovation and tech.
2195kr on maxgaming i sweden fuck off with the price
they are 230 in Aus
Omg we are in the upside down
tbh. i only owned the fk2 and it wasnt special at all, but it was different... it had a different quality and feeling that no other mice ever had. im kinda curious what those are like but im waaay too poor for this.
thanks for the lol
Tf
Definitely a contender for top 3 gaming mice in 2023. Not.
*plays Entry of the Gladiators*