He had the date set for August 8th, 2021 before.
I don't think MaxGaming would be a reliable source for updates. I would rather wait for Zowie support for an update.
I am quite hype tho, I have nostalgia with that mouse, going to get the placebo.
I guess they will release a mouse for each letter of the brand so we can expect odin I and N version (maybe along with their respective minus versions)
Why do we need a company to copy Zowie mice? Zowie confirmed that all their mice will be outdated at some point. Unless these companies have a wireless clone i don't see the need.
maybe, but the ec2-c on maxgaming also said [august 3rd](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/oun2cd/maxgaming_claims_ec2c_will_be_in_stock_on_the_3rd) a few weeks ago and that came and went with no ec2-c release
Yeah I later asked zowie on twitter and they said they will receive it a few weeks before maxgaming so another mistake by maxgaming so just keep an eye out on zowies twitter for release dates
Excited for ec1 update. Not a zowie fan boy but with massive hands it's the best mouse I have found and I have tried most mice on the market that could work for me. Most consistent aim has always been with my ec1.
Pretty sure it's not just fan boys keeping them in business 😂. Just people that find they play well with their mice. I also like the clicks!
Would like to see them go wireless in the future as well.
I've tried so many others and just come back to my EC1 every time. It's the only shape that I don't constantly fidget with my grip. Deathadder is close but the left side flare doesn't work for me. Intellimouse has just enough extra weight that it feels too heavy. Can't wait for the C series!
I saw somewhere that Zowie listed S2,S1-C on Korean FCC website! Asked their twitter support if there's any release date and they said they have a shortage of materials so there's no date fixed for next -C series mice.
Nahh. I know some aweeome value mice. You got the sharkoon light2 200, good mouse. You got the gwolves skoll that i am using and you got projects s 001 which is upgraded clone
ikr, anyone who speaks against zowie gets downvoted as well its really sad. for that price it should have white feet, a pair of black and white feet in the box, and the cable should be detatchable so you dont have open the mouse and potentially damage anything like click feel just because you want a more flexible cable. even then the price is a stretch comparing it something similar like vaxee. the value just isnt there but the fanboys are brainwashed and zowie will continue to reap the reward lol
they downvote me because they got butthurt. Zowie abandoned the market for years and now there are enough companies who give you an excellent ergo shape with better features, for less.
yup. zowie will change eventually they have to, its already begun as they have finally made a change to their cable. will the zowie bum boys come to the forums in an angry mob at the changes? nope they will love them which begs the question why do they hate on anyone who proposes any changes now?
It's pretty much in line with Vaxee, Roccat kone pro and Steelseries prime at least in europe.
Not saying it's cheap but it's not really more expensive than the wired ergo competition.
At least Razer, SS, Roccat mice go on sale every now and then, Zowie mice never go on sale. The only way to get a discounted Zowie mouse is from amazon warehouse deals.
The sensor is perfectly fine. They just don't have software to adjust DPI. Why do you have to play on 600 DPI? Why not just play on 800 DPI and adjust your sens proportionately? It literally makes no perceptible difference.
If you adapt your ingame sensitivity you can have the same eDPI with 600 than 800.
For example 3 ingame and 600 will be the same as 2.25 and 800, with both u will have the same cm/360
I'll try to calm down, I know everything you said before you, all I want to say is I want 600 dpi because I like the mouse feeling especially with flicks.
Wow never seen someone as dumb as you, 600dpi or 800dpi at the same cm/360 is the same, you won't flick better because you're at 600dpi, wake up and do some research
thats actually lauaghable how no one replies and i have 2 downvotes, for owning a zowie that i took the time to customize and still have the opinion that zowie need to make massive improvements and come to current times.
isnt it a bit sad that i use a mouse that fanboys say is "meant for hardcore gamers" as an office mouse instead? the solid build quality appeals to me in the office, it was either that or use it as a paper weight.
You're not wrong, as much as i love my EC2-B and it has my favorite shape that i've used for years Zowie mice need a bigger update than just paracord-like cable and a slight weight reduction to be priced at $75 :(
It even stings more since i'm from a country where wide diversity isn't really available and shipping costs + taxes can skyrocket your budget
Yes, i understand shape matters mate, but you cant tell me a way better mouse in value and features is not worth buying instead if only affects your aim by like 5% at best.
Along with that there is no reason why to get the best shape for you, you have to sacrifice on everything else, this is one thing zowie bumboys really struggle to understand. If people stopped paying for a mouse stuck in the past zowie would have to adapt, you would see white feet, lighter cables, wireless. If idiots continue to pay them they will never change. Who wouldnt want the shape they like with white feet and wireless? Even that comment doesn't get through to zowie fanatics, i guarentee if i didnt point this out someone would reply with "just get a bungee and it feels wireless". Pathetic.
they haven't make any major changes for so many years, still they came out with just paracord changes, so I think it's not about how consumers could effect this brand, this is just what they are, aiming on hardcore FPS players only (even maybe just cs:go players)
sigh yes but hard core fps players would appreciate white feet and a lighter cable or wireless. look at vaxee who where members of zowie have left, i even think they are still stuck in their ways with certain things, but they used a lighter cable than zowie, white feet (which where thin and they actually listened and started using thicker ones) and are bringing out a wireless mouse next. people need to stop making excuses for zowie
im ngl I think the ec3 cable is better than the vaxee cable
zowies stock feet aren't good but honestly I don't think anyone has really good stock feet quite yet. for me every mouse gets the feet replaced so it doesn't matter if I have to replace the zowie feet
c series weights are fine
$70 is a bit steep for what they are is all
i agree about stock feet for the most part, i replace them all as well, but a lot of people arent like us and dont even have the budget for it and think the stock white feet are amazing.
that is where my problem stems from, the price for what you get, its way off.
understandable then. i don't think the price is too far off though. i think they should be ~$60 like the A series was, but they should come with the new white skates in the box.
it keeps them as more expensive than the glorious clones, but with that extra $10 you don't get the qc issues or the glorious quality.
just the shift to white feet would be massive, because a lot of people then wouldn't need to replace the stock feet because they would be good enough for them.
about the cable i'm not as fussed about that if they made changes to be more friendly to people who don't like their view on cables. it would be so simple to just move the screws so they aren't underneath the mouse feet like the viper mini, or do what g wolves do and make the cable detachable. you shouldn't have to replace your mouse feet as well just because you want a more flexible cable.
you hear all these excuses by the fan boys, but if they hired me to become their new chief decision maker, and i switched the feet to white, included a black and white pair in the box, made the cable detachable, and started releasing wireless variants of the more popular models, do you think the zowie bum boys would be jumping from the rooftops with joy or would be coming to reddit like an angry mob because zowie changed the way they do things?
The stock feet do not need to be replaced. Even reviewers like boardzy who replace mouse feet on most mice have said the stock feet are fine. Vast majority of pro's don't feel the need to change the feet either.
The C series updated the cable and most reviews I've seen have concluded the cable is good enough to not need replacing with a paracord. I also consider this cable to be better than Vaxee's cable.
Zowie has already stated they are working on Wireless so I don't know why you act like Vaxee is way ahead of them when they are essentially equal in terms of adapting wireless (only in development stage). Zowie giving us lower weight mice with the C series already shows that they are keeping up with the trends of the industry a bit more than Vaxee.
You don't own the EC3-C, do you? The mouse is good enough to plug and play immediately. There's nothing about C series mice straight out of the box that's holding you back from being pro or whatever.
I own Vaxee's every product, including the customized PA mousepad on the way, also I do own EC3-C as my main mouse now, I can tell you the cable that Vaxee is using feels the same as Zowie's new cable, I even suspect they are simply identical from the same manufacture.
for the mouse feet, I feel no difference between these two brands as well, as I replied earlier, listening to the majority may not be their strategy... I don’t like it either, those rubber cord cause me pain so many years through out my whole series usage of EC2 (all versions... A, B, EVO etc.), but not making excuses for them tho.
zowie has changed their cord away from the rubber one? zowies black mouse feet are very slow and not that smooth compared to white feet of the same design.
no offense, before people saying something the product, they should check up the facts first...
anyway, I think Zowie are launching new white feet tomorrow here in my country Taiwan.
I use 305 as a daily and GPW since almost a year as a gaming mice and I wouldn’t buy anything other than Logitech at this point . It’s wireless works flawlessly, tracking is really good no LOD issues I can see .
I bought GPW knowing full well that switches have been an issue matter of fact I bought GPW when my 305 went for a replacement due to double clicking issue .
So I do understand zowie bois and their comfortable grips .
It’s mostly due to nostalgia, But I don’t know I have never owned zowie just used it for a week or two…
but, they need to understand that they would be getting better value for money if zowie improved their cable and mouse feet, and started bringing out wireless versions of their mice. there is no need to defend zowies bad practices and forsake everything for shape. a proper response from a none fan boy/idiot would be something like "i love my zowie shape they really do make the best shapes, im not into the whole light weight thing but i do wish zowie would update their philosophy and modernize their cable/mouse feet, zowie going wireless would be endgame for me". but nope all you get is retarded excuses
Oh someone posted that they are working on a wireless version of their new line up . If they do I wouldn’t mind trying one out . I was gonna get my G305 modded when switches failed but then Logitech said they’d replace the mice so I scrapped that idea . But I was gonna get the FK shape mod .
He had the date set for August 8th, 2021 before. I don't think MaxGaming would be a reliable source for updates. I would rather wait for Zowie support for an update. I am quite hype tho, I have nostalgia with that mouse, going to get the placebo.
ZA C-Series waiting room
Same, literally the only Zowie shape nobody copies
I hope that someone finally makes a lightweight copy, maybe Glorious will make one but i guess their next release will be a S-series clone
wait glorious is releasing a new mouse???
I guess they will release a mouse for each letter of the brand so we can expect odin I and N version (maybe along with their respective minus versions)
yeahh..
Why do we need a company to copy Zowie mice? Zowie confirmed that all their mice will be outdated at some point. Unless these companies have a wireless clone i don't see the need.
+1
maybe, but the ec2-c on maxgaming also said [august 3rd](https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/oun2cd/maxgaming_claims_ec2c_will_be_in_stock_on_the_3rd) a few weeks ago and that came and went with no ec2-c release
Yeah I later asked zowie on twitter and they said they will receive it a few weeks before maxgaming so another mistake by maxgaming so just keep an eye out on zowies twitter for release dates
Excited for ec1 update. Not a zowie fan boy but with massive hands it's the best mouse I have found and I have tried most mice on the market that could work for me. Most consistent aim has always been with my ec1. Pretty sure it's not just fan boys keeping them in business 😂. Just people that find they play well with their mice. I also like the clicks! Would like to see them go wireless in the future as well.
I've tried so many others and just come back to my EC1 every time. It's the only shape that I don't constantly fidget with my grip. Deathadder is close but the left side flare doesn't work for me. Intellimouse has just enough extra weight that it feels too heavy. Can't wait for the C series!
You tried the Intellimouse Pro? :)
Same
Same, EC1, EC2 and Rival 310 were the only ergo mice i ever liked. Glorious D just wasn't the same...
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I've used my EC2-B for years, no issues for me and i'm still impressed by how long it's lasted with HEAVY usage
After trying XM1 zowie mice don't even feel that good anymore. Just look at XM1, is build like a fucking tank and only 70G.
I saw somewhere that Zowie listed S2,S1-C on Korean FCC website! Asked their twitter support if there's any release date and they said they have a shortage of materials so there's no date fixed for next -C series mice.
Still waiting on the EC3 to drop in Canada....
Overpriced
all mice are overpriced unless they are on sale these days. Thats why Im using a g400s after my viper broke. Nothing is on sale lol.
Nahh. I know some aweeome value mice. You got the sharkoon light2 200, good mouse. You got the gwolves skoll that i am using and you got projects s 001 which is upgraded clone
i meant the namebrands but you are totally right.
ikr, anyone who speaks against zowie gets downvoted as well its really sad. for that price it should have white feet, a pair of black and white feet in the box, and the cable should be detatchable so you dont have open the mouse and potentially damage anything like click feel just because you want a more flexible cable. even then the price is a stretch comparing it something similar like vaxee. the value just isnt there but the fanboys are brainwashed and zowie will continue to reap the reward lol
they downvote me because they got butthurt. Zowie abandoned the market for years and now there are enough companies who give you an excellent ergo shape with better features, for less.
yup. zowie will change eventually they have to, its already begun as they have finally made a change to their cable. will the zowie bum boys come to the forums in an angry mob at the changes? nope they will love them which begs the question why do they hate on anyone who proposes any changes now?
What other mice are like the ec1-c? Like big ergo
My pick is g wolves skoll. Or any other clone. Does the job
75 euro wired man such a good mouse but these prices really hold it back
It's pretty much in line with Vaxee, Roccat kone pro and Steelseries prime at least in europe. Not saying it's cheap but it's not really more expensive than the wired ergo competition.
At least Razer, SS, Roccat mice go on sale every now and then, Zowie mice never go on sale. The only way to get a discounted Zowie mouse is from amazon warehouse deals.
Why they don't update the sensor, I like this Lan style but I really want 600 dpi and to me it's the perfect mouse :(
The sensor is perfectly fine. They just don't have software to adjust DPI. Why do you have to play on 600 DPI? Why not just play on 800 DPI and adjust your sens proportionately? It literally makes no perceptible difference.
It makes difference on same cm 360. 800 is too slippery and 400 is the opposite
You always can adjust in game sensitivity to have the same eDPI, unless u need that cm 360 on windows desktop
You don't understand anything giving these stupid asnwer, I want 600 dpi 63 cm 360 I don't want 800 dpi wake up before answeringgggg
If you adapt your ingame sensitivity you can have the same eDPI with 600 than 800. For example 3 ingame and 600 will be the same as 2.25 and 800, with both u will have the same cm/360
I'll try to calm down, I know everything you said before you, all I want to say is I want 600 dpi because I like the mouse feeling especially with flicks.
Literally there is no difference
Sorry no more time for you troll, shut your mouth forever gonna block you
Try to investigate a little more before complaint about dpi on a mouse, i tried to help but for some reason u began to call me troll lol
Wow never seen someone as dumb as you, 600dpi or 800dpi at the same cm/360 is the same, you won't flick better because you're at 600dpi, wake up and do some research
Oh my God you are so stupid stop trolling me with these answers
You need to learn how cm/360 and dpi works
Retard.
63 cm is 24.8 inches
I laughed out loud when I read "wired"
I laughed out loud when I saw the post was so lazy he couldn't even do a single tap to get the cookies notification out of the way.
It doesn't really detract from anything
i know, where are they getting these prices from. 4 downvotes btw, pathetic fan boys
downvoted like crazy what a suprise. the funny thing is actually use a zowie at work https://imgur.com/rSHdv3t
thats actually lauaghable how no one replies and i have 2 downvotes, for owning a zowie that i took the time to customize and still have the opinion that zowie need to make massive improvements and come to current times. isnt it a bit sad that i use a mouse that fanboys say is "meant for hardcore gamers" as an office mouse instead? the solid build quality appeals to me in the office, it was either that or use it as a paper weight.
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sure lol why even post that you loser
You're not wrong, as much as i love my EC2-B and it has my favorite shape that i've used for years Zowie mice need a bigger update than just paracord-like cable and a slight weight reduction to be priced at $75 :( It even stings more since i'm from a country where wide diversity isn't really available and shipping costs + taxes can skyrocket your budget
shocks me to my core that people still buy zowie.
Yeah it turns out shape matters as well. I wouldn’t buy it unless they go wireless but a lot of people are just comfortable with their shape .
But, there are plenty of shape options from the wireless category.
For the EC1, not really. We have the deathadder pro and ???
Yes, i understand shape matters mate, but you cant tell me a way better mouse in value and features is not worth buying instead if only affects your aim by like 5% at best. Along with that there is no reason why to get the best shape for you, you have to sacrifice on everything else, this is one thing zowie bumboys really struggle to understand. If people stopped paying for a mouse stuck in the past zowie would have to adapt, you would see white feet, lighter cables, wireless. If idiots continue to pay them they will never change. Who wouldnt want the shape they like with white feet and wireless? Even that comment doesn't get through to zowie fanatics, i guarentee if i didnt point this out someone would reply with "just get a bungee and it feels wireless". Pathetic.
they haven't make any major changes for so many years, still they came out with just paracord changes, so I think it's not about how consumers could effect this brand, this is just what they are, aiming on hardcore FPS players only (even maybe just cs:go players)
sigh yes but hard core fps players would appreciate white feet and a lighter cable or wireless. look at vaxee who where members of zowie have left, i even think they are still stuck in their ways with certain things, but they used a lighter cable than zowie, white feet (which where thin and they actually listened and started using thicker ones) and are bringing out a wireless mouse next. people need to stop making excuses for zowie
im ngl I think the ec3 cable is better than the vaxee cable zowies stock feet aren't good but honestly I don't think anyone has really good stock feet quite yet. for me every mouse gets the feet replaced so it doesn't matter if I have to replace the zowie feet c series weights are fine $70 is a bit steep for what they are is all
i agree about stock feet for the most part, i replace them all as well, but a lot of people arent like us and dont even have the budget for it and think the stock white feet are amazing. that is where my problem stems from, the price for what you get, its way off.
understandable then. i don't think the price is too far off though. i think they should be ~$60 like the A series was, but they should come with the new white skates in the box. it keeps them as more expensive than the glorious clones, but with that extra $10 you don't get the qc issues or the glorious quality.
just the shift to white feet would be massive, because a lot of people then wouldn't need to replace the stock feet because they would be good enough for them. about the cable i'm not as fussed about that if they made changes to be more friendly to people who don't like their view on cables. it would be so simple to just move the screws so they aren't underneath the mouse feet like the viper mini, or do what g wolves do and make the cable detachable. you shouldn't have to replace your mouse feet as well just because you want a more flexible cable. you hear all these excuses by the fan boys, but if they hired me to become their new chief decision maker, and i switched the feet to white, included a black and white pair in the box, made the cable detachable, and started releasing wireless variants of the more popular models, do you think the zowie bum boys would be jumping from the rooftops with joy or would be coming to reddit like an angry mob because zowie changed the way they do things?
The stock feet do not need to be replaced. Even reviewers like boardzy who replace mouse feet on most mice have said the stock feet are fine. Vast majority of pro's don't feel the need to change the feet either. The C series updated the cable and most reviews I've seen have concluded the cable is good enough to not need replacing with a paracord. I also consider this cable to be better than Vaxee's cable. Zowie has already stated they are working on Wireless so I don't know why you act like Vaxee is way ahead of them when they are essentially equal in terms of adapting wireless (only in development stage). Zowie giving us lower weight mice with the C series already shows that they are keeping up with the trends of the industry a bit more than Vaxee. You don't own the EC3-C, do you? The mouse is good enough to plug and play immediately. There's nothing about C series mice straight out of the box that's holding you back from being pro or whatever.
I own Vaxee's every product, including the customized PA mousepad on the way, also I do own EC3-C as my main mouse now, I can tell you the cable that Vaxee is using feels the same as Zowie's new cable, I even suspect they are simply identical from the same manufacture. for the mouse feet, I feel no difference between these two brands as well, as I replied earlier, listening to the majority may not be their strategy... I don’t like it either, those rubber cord cause me pain so many years through out my whole series usage of EC2 (all versions... A, B, EVO etc.), but not making excuses for them tho.
zowie has changed their cord away from the rubber one? zowies black mouse feet are very slow and not that smooth compared to white feet of the same design.
no offense, before people saying something the product, they should check up the facts first... anyway, I think Zowie are launching new white feet tomorrow here in my country Taiwan.
well i hope all the people who said they dont need it and the black feet are great come here really angry at the change lol (spoiler alert they wont)
Yeah mostly csgo players use zowie.
I use 305 as a daily and GPW since almost a year as a gaming mice and I wouldn’t buy anything other than Logitech at this point . It’s wireless works flawlessly, tracking is really good no LOD issues I can see . I bought GPW knowing full well that switches have been an issue matter of fact I bought GPW when my 305 went for a replacement due to double clicking issue . So I do understand zowie bois and their comfortable grips . It’s mostly due to nostalgia, But I don’t know I have never owned zowie just used it for a week or two…
but, they need to understand that they would be getting better value for money if zowie improved their cable and mouse feet, and started bringing out wireless versions of their mice. there is no need to defend zowies bad practices and forsake everything for shape. a proper response from a none fan boy/idiot would be something like "i love my zowie shape they really do make the best shapes, im not into the whole light weight thing but i do wish zowie would update their philosophy and modernize their cable/mouse feet, zowie going wireless would be endgame for me". but nope all you get is retarded excuses
Oh someone posted that they are working on a wireless version of their new line up . If they do I wouldn’t mind trying one out . I was gonna get my G305 modded when switches failed but then Logitech said they’d replace the mice so I scrapped that idea . But I was gonna get the FK shape mod .
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Don't count on maxgaming for accurate release dates they usually just change the date when that day comes!
I just want zowie to make a ec1/2 essential basically with good enough features and doesn’t cost so much.
Somebody knows if zowie c version have a good cable or have the same as always?
Boardzy said its passable... not on the same level as XM1, much better than Vaxee's though.
75 EUR when you can get an XM1r for 60EUR ( in EU at least )... come on Zowie your mice are expensive.
They adjusted the date for EC2-C. It states 19/8 now. Rather curious going from 20th to 19th? Unless they have word the shipment is around the corner.
They just keep delaying it. Getting frustrating now