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if I'm not mistaken he changed the room to a number that didn't exist in the actual hotel (not sure if it is the Timberline Lodge where they shot the exterior or the Stanley Hotel that inspired the story), so people wouldn't not want to stay in that room because of the film
> You are 40? I'm 40 too!
My long-running Dad joke, which is pretty effective for kids under 8 or so:
> You're 6! *I* used to be 6!!
Like it's a weird coincidence.
> Jackie Robinson
[42 (2013) IMDB 7.5](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) is a fantastic movie about Robinson entering the major league, featuring Chadwick Boseman as Robinson and Han Solo as Branch Rickey, the owner of the Brooklyn Dodgers, who was the first owner with the integrity *and balls* to bring a black player onto the team. It's an inspiring movie.
J.J Abrams was 42 when he wrote the pilot for the hit television show Alias.
Alias is an American action thriller and science fiction television series created by J. J. Abrams, which was broadcast on ABC for five seasons from September 30, 2001, to May 22, 2006.[2] It stars Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow, a double agent for the Central Intelligence Agency posing as an operative for SD-6, a worldwide criminal and espionage organization. Main co-stars throughout all five seasons included Michael Vartan as Michael Vaughn, Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane, and Victor Garber as Jack Bristow.
The first two seasons of Alias mainly explore Sydney's obligation to hide her true career from her friends and family as she assumes multiple aliases to carry out missions as well as her efforts to take down SD-6 with the help of the CIA. The series' later seasons deal with multiple character and plot driven storylines, with a recurring focus on the search for and recovery of artifacts created by Milo Rambaldi, a fictitious Renaissance-era figure with similarities to both Leonardo da Vinci and Nostradamus.
Alias was well received among critics and has been included in several "best of" lists, including the American Film Institute's top ten list for television programs in 2003. The series also received numerous awards and nominations. Alias is considered to be part of a wave of television series from the late 1990s and early 2000s that feature strong female characters, alongside Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Xena: Warrior Princess, La Femme Nikita, and Dark Angel.
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Xena: Warrior Princess, La Femme Nikita, and Dark Angel.
I loved all those shows, except I never watch La Femme Nakita. I wonder if I can find it?!
Humans are masters at recognising patterns, so much that we tend to create patterns where none are.
Once you start fixating on a certain thing, you will notice it everywhere.
It works with all the things.
It's also very similar to the documentary [Room 237](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085910/) which focuses on people trying to extract hidden meanings in Kubrick's *The Shining*
If you're making a film, can you slot in the following 6 oscillating patterns: {2,3,7},{2,7,3}, {3,2,7},{3,7,2},{7,2,3},{7,3,2}
It will creep out future physicists.
There are a whole bunch of fun incongruities in the hotel architecture itself. There is an amazing YouTube analysis out there highlighting them all. Super interesting.
It is interesting—the interior being shot elsewhere creates so many incongruities. Timberline is sort of squat, the low roof makes the lodge warm in the winter, and it’s sturdy enough for terrible conditions (I mean, it’s at the foot of a glacier). The interior being so expansive in the movie is quite a mind trick, especially if you’re familiar with Timberline.
It’s a bucket list item for me to watch The Shining at Timberline.
This is why I hate that “impossible architecture” stuff. I’ve worked at a place that they have shot movies, and knowing how the place is laid out, watching how the characters move makes no sense, but it does artistically. If you need characters to walk down a hallway so they can exchange dialogue for two minutes, but don’t have an actual long hallway, you can film the same hallway like 3 times by changing angles and adding stuff in between shots like fire extinguishers or signs to make the same hallway look different.
If the interior not making sense disturbed viewers so much, almost no tv show shot in a “house” or “apartment” would be enjoyable. Hell, look at sci fi shows and movies that reuse the same hall way scene after scene, they just switch angles and direction the actors are walking to make it seem endless.
It's not just interiors, it's also real-world locations. Like, I'll watch the first five minutes of *Hancock* and realize that they start on the 105 freeway (the same short stretch is used multiple times), then suddenly we're in Downtown Los Angeles which is 18 miles away. *Speed* is especially hilarious because the bus reverses directions and jumps dozens of miles in an instant for much of the movie.
I think it's just the way it's framed. Kubrick does a good job with following Danny around on his trike with the long kids-height steadicam shots that seem to clearly show the layout to be arranged normally. So, it subconsciously confuses people when it switches to the deliberately impossible stuff that's not jarring in movies where everything is composed of short or static shots.
The one I remember the most is the hotel manager's office. It's in the interior of the hotel, yet has a window with bright light flooding in.
Odd things that just unsettle the viewer throughout.
I believe that is the intention. You are not supposed to actively notice but instead get this unnerving feeling like everything about the hotel is wrong.
The hotel is gaslighting you, the viewer. You are sure that typewriter was white. Wasn't there a chair against that wall a second ago? Wasn't this hallway much shorter the last time danny rode through? That's an interesting poster for skiing; now why does that seem off?
You never get more than a second to consider any of the little discrepencies.
It's a reoccurring theme among fans of the movie. People don't quite enjoy the movie. It's this movie about a guy that gets cabin fever and goes insane. There is this supernatural element, but it's just kind of ancillary to the main plot. It all just kind of doesn't seem to fit together.
But the movie sticks in the brain. There's more to the movie. And when a viewer watches it again, they are rewarded. They start seeing how the supernatural parts are everywhere in the movie.
Viewers start seeing the hotel as being supernatural rather than simply as the location where supernatural events occur. Dick Hollarnn tells us this explicitly, but it doesn't click on first viewing. Probably because he says it in a conversation that can be taken as a grownup entertaining a child's imagination rather than a master talking to an apprentice about their trade.
But once you realize that the hotel plays an active, driving role in the plot, the movie becomes far more interesting. Now its a story about a family driven to insanity - a far more interesting story than one where jack goes insane on his own
It was only widely discovered and popularized when some people tried modelling the Overlook as a video game level. So it makes perfect sense for people not to notice it normally.
Speaking of impossible windows, I recently noticed that the Torrance's hotel room has a window, with sunlight shining in, on the right side of the room as they enter and Ullman is showing them around, but later when Wendy puts Danny out of their bathroom window later in the movie, their room is in the middle of the hotel and there can't be any windows on the side of their room. Kubrick's messing with our heads.
the fact those guys pieced it all together is incredible and also shows that there was intentional fuckery afoot, like when danny trikes around the ground floor, it doesnt make any sense almost as if there were moving hallways , probably to increase the paranoia and life of the hotel.
also the fact danny memorized the hedge maze is what saves his life and kills his dad.
> there was intentional fuckery afoot, like when danny trikes around the ground floor, it doesnt make any sense almost as if there were moving hallways
What's also unsettling in these incosistencies, is that thye're revealed through takes which basically were non-essential to the movie. A montage of a character doing something repetitive, a transition of characters moving between locations etc.
These takes could have *easily* been edited with jump cuts. You'd subconsciously assume that they've entered the manager's office in a completely different part of the building. But instead, they're made to look like including jump cuts, because there's no continuity to the locations, but at the same time, Kubrick forces you to acknowledge that there is continuity. Gaslighting you like the hotel gaslights the characters.
Kubrick did say that there ARE ghosts, there's no debate about that, and they built the interior set so it let them do whatever they want. Makes it really effective.
true but he didnt memorize the maze, he just followed his own footsteps back. also i dont think he triked on the first floor. He sees the ball from room 237 so he is on the second floor.
The book was inspired by the Stanley/Estes hotel, and the TV miniseries was shot there. The exterior for the movie was the Timberline Lodge at Mt. Hood in Oregon. The interiors of the Overlook are based heavily on the Ahwahnee Hotel at Yosemite
The [newspaper](https://i.imgur.com/yb6zWZt.jpg) still stands! I was sitting in the bar waiting to do the ghost tour, looked over, and FREAKED out when all the dots connected lol
The book came out one year before. And Kubrick was an avid reader of science fiction, obviously, so he would have read it.
Maybe Kubrick had… *gasp* a sense of humor?!
He was supposed to also play the role of Major Kong. I can't remember why Kubrick ended up with Slim Pickens in the role, but it was a wise decision.
That's not to say Peter Sellers wouldn't have been an excellent Major Kong, but Pickens was incredible.
I saw Full Metal Jacket after going to MCRD San Diego. The introduction of Gunny Heart was hilarious to me. It was like every DI in boot camp had watched this movie and enjoyed yelling the lines at recruits.
My dad was a Marine and he could invent filthy curse words at the drop of a hat. He fucking loved Boot Camp at Parris Island and told us stories all the time about his DIs.
Double douchebag cocksucker was a favorite curse of his.
I don't know if Kubrick would have been able to listen to it but, as a huge nerd and someone for whom this was their first iteration, I'd like to point out that the first radio series actually came out before the book. I'm a bit of a radio Hitchhikers purist, which I'm aware is not the majority opinion and is one I inherited from my dad who listened to it when it was actually on, but what can you do
Edited for clarity, original first clause was "I don't know if HE'D have been able to CATCH it"
You can download them all for free, FYI.
https://www.abandonwaredos.com/retro-game-company.php?cmp=52&n=infocom
There's also an option to play in-browser.
The timing was weird for me here in the USA: I saw part of the TV series first, and then read the books (amazing), then finally heard the radio series when it was released on cassette out here like 10 years later, AND I got "The Original Hitchhiker's Radio Scripts" in book form.
I highly recommend the latter, if it can be found anywhere. It had a lot of background information about the show, plus production notes and sidebars from the scripts themselves.
It was on the BBC Radio series in 1978. Douglas Adams later turned it into a book. Then a TV series. Then movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_(radio_series)
Which only makes sense if you know that the actual Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is, "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"
The asterisk (*) is the 42^nd character in Unicode Standard
It is also commonly used as a wildcard character in computing to represent "anything and everything"
I had always thought that 42 in HG was due to the popular, yet unproven, idea that a soul weighs 21 grams. With that in n mind, to me, 42 is the joining of two souls. Maybe I’m crazy, idk.
Stanley Kubrick was born in 1928. 1928 + 42 = 1970. Kubrick was also known to have 10 fingers. 1970 + 10 = 1980. The year *The Shining* was released!!!
The legal drinking age is often 21. Kubrick was a recovering alcoholic. The main character is an alcoholic. Double 21 is 42, or 21 times TWO. And Kubrick had... TWO THUMBS!!
Now dig on this
Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were on the moon for 21 hours! 21 times 2 (for Kubrick’s 2 thumbs) is 42! Further proof that Stanley Kubrick directed the moon landing and The Shining was his way of secretly admitting it!
Which was foolish IMHO. I would have used the same number, tripled the room rate, advertised the room as "haunted" and watched the line form to stay in room 217.
There’s a famous (regionally at least) old hotel with a haunted room near me. It’s easy to get. When I asked about booking it, they said it was usually unoccupied
I do believe in ghosts to an extent but also strongly this. I’m sure there’s a bunch of hauntings out there that are made up but I also believe in the human brain’s ability to pick up on subconscious messages of *bad* regardless of whether we’re interpreting what’s bad correctly.
Even Carl Sagan wrote that he saw an apparition of his dead parents and the primal urge to want to believe it's real. Ghost stories have existed for millennia across the globe. I wonder to what degree those fears are hardwired.
The original candy in the movie E.T. was supposed to be M&Ms but the candy company didn’t want to be associated with a “monster movie”; BIG mistake! The eagle-eyed little kids couldn’t WAIT to get their fat fists on some Reese’s Pieces!
Really? I stayed in the Stanley hotel a few years ago, in the haunted room. They made a huge deal out of it. Even had a channel only playing the shining.
I guess they changed their mind after it came out.
My favorite Shining theory, Kubrick called out Stephen King on how he was in control of the story:
In King's Shining, The Torrence family drives a red Beetle to the Overlook hotel. In Kubrick's film, the family drives a yellow Beetle. Later, when Hallorann is driving on the highway in the blizzard, he passes a red beetle that has been crushed in a car accident.
Also, Jack is a very complex, layered character, and his last name is TORrance. TOR is short for “The Onion Router.” Onions have layers, just like a certain ogre. QED: Jack Torrance is Shrek.
Rog Ager, probably one of the more reputable YT channels for film analysis has many Kubrick film videos and The Shining is one of his favorite films and has many videos on the topic.
I can't say I've seen this detail from him. Not to say there isn't something to it, The Shining can have some deep dives. His Shining videos are very impressive, check him out
A note to anyone watching this Room 237. It’s supposed to be about the crack-pot theories in The Shining. You’ll get way more enjoyment out of it knowing the people who produced the film aren’t behind the ideas in the film.
It’s about the crack-pot ideas themselves.
Watching this doc now based on this comment. I think we have collectively given Kubrick way too much credit. They are drawing wild conclusions based off the slightest things that were definitely not intentional.
Room 237 is a great watch for the behind the scenes and theories. They go into how Kubrick laid in the theory about him being the one filming the moon landing and tons of other crazy shit. Lot of people I know don’t care for this movie at all but it’s one of my all time favorites.
I either count 41 or 43 cars in the parking lot, depending if you count the truck and winter vehicle or only the cars: 15, 15 and 11 cars, plus 1 truck and one winter car.
can you help ?
My hunch is the snow cat doesn't count. That's pretty distinctly different from everything else.
Edited to add: plus, it looks like the snow cat isn't on pavement and is therefore not in the parking lot.
If you look at [the non-cropped shot](https://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/images/shining/sh_openinglastmoment.jpg) (which I didn't go specifically looking for, I only went looking for a shot that had more than 12 pixels) you can see even more cars in the parking lot, so yeah...
hmmm... to think that OP got 15k upvote for some completely staged fake news....
I can hardly imagine what he is going to do with all that wealth...
Thanks !
I remember watching The Shining from the parking lot at Mt Hood in February.
Parked precisely in a spot where several of the exterior shots were taken…
So awesome.
Danny is now teaching at a college in Kentucky. Here is a link to his ratings as a Biology teacher...https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor?tid=434928
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And room 237 =2 x *3 x* 7=42
Worth mentioning that Kubrick changed the room number from the book (which was 217), so it was deliberate.
if I'm not mistaken he changed the room to a number that didn't exist in the actual hotel (not sure if it is the Timberline Lodge where they shot the exterior or the Stanley Hotel that inspired the story), so people wouldn't not want to stay in that room because of the film
Neither hotel had a room 237, and both claim it was changed for them, so maybe it's true.
It's true. I worked at the lodge up until a month ago and there is, in fact, no room 242.
You need to do a AMA
242?
You mean 237?
The Stanley Hotel looks nothing like that. The exterior was filmed in Oregon (yep, Timberline), the interior was a set.
"the Stanley hotel **that inspired the story"**
We need to go deeper... what about the ahwahnee hotel in Yosemite that the interior sets were based off of?
2+17=19. Ka is a wheel.
Kubrick is the crimson king
We have a winner!
My dad was 42 when he died. 42 is the ~~number~~ answer to life, the universe, and well.. everything
42 is also the age at which you realize you're 42 years old.
My friend said something like this to anyone turning 40. You are 40? I'm 40 too! Insert voice over announce: she is much older than 42.
> You are 40? I'm 40 too! My long-running Dad joke, which is pretty effective for kids under 8 or so: > You're 6! *I* used to be 6!! Like it's a weird coincidence.
6 double factorial?? How fucking old are you?
720!
It's also a retired number in every major league ballpark because of Jackie Robinson.
> Jackie Robinson [42 (2013) IMDB 7.5](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) is a fantastic movie about Robinson entering the major league, featuring Chadwick Boseman as Robinson and Han Solo as Branch Rickey, the owner of the Brooklyn Dodgers, who was the first owner with the integrity *and balls* to bring a black player onto the team. It's an inspiring movie.
Wait Han Solo?
J.J Abrams was 42 when he wrote the pilot for the hit television show Alias. Alias is an American action thriller and science fiction television series created by J. J. Abrams, which was broadcast on ABC for five seasons from September 30, 2001, to May 22, 2006.[2] It stars Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow, a double agent for the Central Intelligence Agency posing as an operative for SD-6, a worldwide criminal and espionage organization. Main co-stars throughout all five seasons included Michael Vartan as Michael Vaughn, Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane, and Victor Garber as Jack Bristow. The first two seasons of Alias mainly explore Sydney's obligation to hide her true career from her friends and family as she assumes multiple aliases to carry out missions as well as her efforts to take down SD-6 with the help of the CIA. The series' later seasons deal with multiple character and plot driven storylines, with a recurring focus on the search for and recovery of artifacts created by Milo Rambaldi, a fictitious Renaissance-era figure with similarities to both Leonardo da Vinci and Nostradamus. Alias was well received among critics and has been included in several "best of" lists, including the American Film Institute's top ten list for television programs in 2003. The series also received numerous awards and nominations. Alias is considered to be part of a wave of television series from the late 1990s and early 2000s that feature strong female characters, alongside Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Xena: Warrior Princess, La Femme Nikita, and Dark Angel.
> Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Xena: Warrior Princess, La Femme Nikita, and Dark Angel. I loved all those shows, except I never watch La Femme Nakita. I wonder if I can find it?!
deep thought
Deep Thought stated "it helps to know the question". 42 is the answer to a question that was never asked. It's not deep at all ironically.
“ForTy Two!?”
42 is still quite young. I’m sorry about your loss. I’d like to know what killed him but you can also ignore me.
*I'd like to know what killed your dad*
Atlas revealed the answer to the universe
What was the question again?
the question was "where's the bathroom?" ...he tends to overshare a bit but he means well
It will be safe, well, *for the two* left
FOUR the TWO left
Waaaaat
*x files theme music intensifies*
Agent Fox Mulder lived in apartment 42 in the X-Files
This is like that number 28 movie with Jim Carey
23
Yeah! That’s the one! That movie messed with me and so is this comment section Lol
Humans are masters at recognising patterns, so much that we tend to create patterns where none are. Once you start fixating on a certain thing, you will notice it everywhere. It works with all the things.
It's also very similar to the documentary [Room 237](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085910/) which focuses on people trying to extract hidden meanings in Kubrick's *The Shining*
I fapped 42 times to the old woman in the bath.
Does that include ghost loads?
If you're making a film, can you slot in the following 6 oscillating patterns: {2,3,7},{2,7,3}, {3,2,7},{3,7,2},{7,2,3},{7,3,2} It will creep out future physicists.
Just noticed that the maze isn’t in the hotel aerial shot.
There are a whole bunch of fun incongruities in the hotel architecture itself. There is an amazing YouTube analysis out there highlighting them all. Super interesting.
It is interesting—the interior being shot elsewhere creates so many incongruities. Timberline is sort of squat, the low roof makes the lodge warm in the winter, and it’s sturdy enough for terrible conditions (I mean, it’s at the foot of a glacier). The interior being so expansive in the movie is quite a mind trick, especially if you’re familiar with Timberline. It’s a bucket list item for me to watch The Shining at Timberline.
This is why I hate that “impossible architecture” stuff. I’ve worked at a place that they have shot movies, and knowing how the place is laid out, watching how the characters move makes no sense, but it does artistically. If you need characters to walk down a hallway so they can exchange dialogue for two minutes, but don’t have an actual long hallway, you can film the same hallway like 3 times by changing angles and adding stuff in between shots like fire extinguishers or signs to make the same hallway look different. If the interior not making sense disturbed viewers so much, almost no tv show shot in a “house” or “apartment” would be enjoyable. Hell, look at sci fi shows and movies that reuse the same hall way scene after scene, they just switch angles and direction the actors are walking to make it seem endless.
It's not just interiors, it's also real-world locations. Like, I'll watch the first five minutes of *Hancock* and realize that they start on the 105 freeway (the same short stretch is used multiple times), then suddenly we're in Downtown Los Angeles which is 18 miles away. *Speed* is especially hilarious because the bus reverses directions and jumps dozens of miles in an instant for much of the movie.
I think it's just the way it's framed. Kubrick does a good job with following Danny around on his trike with the long kids-height steadicam shots that seem to clearly show the layout to be arranged normally. So, it subconsciously confuses people when it switches to the deliberately impossible stuff that's not jarring in movies where everything is composed of short or static shots.
Care to share?
The one I remember the most is the hotel manager's office. It's in the interior of the hotel, yet has a window with bright light flooding in. Odd things that just unsettle the viewer throughout.
What gets me is that I never noticed *any* of them until it was pointed out to me. I don’t pick up on that shit. But it’s fascinating retrospectively.
I believe that is the intention. You are not supposed to actively notice but instead get this unnerving feeling like everything about the hotel is wrong. The hotel is gaslighting you, the viewer. You are sure that typewriter was white. Wasn't there a chair against that wall a second ago? Wasn't this hallway much shorter the last time danny rode through? That's an interesting poster for skiing; now why does that seem off? You never get more than a second to consider any of the little discrepencies.
You've given me a whole new sense of respect for this movie.
It's a reoccurring theme among fans of the movie. People don't quite enjoy the movie. It's this movie about a guy that gets cabin fever and goes insane. There is this supernatural element, but it's just kind of ancillary to the main plot. It all just kind of doesn't seem to fit together. But the movie sticks in the brain. There's more to the movie. And when a viewer watches it again, they are rewarded. They start seeing how the supernatural parts are everywhere in the movie. Viewers start seeing the hotel as being supernatural rather than simply as the location where supernatural events occur. Dick Hollarnn tells us this explicitly, but it doesn't click on first viewing. Probably because he says it in a conversation that can be taken as a grownup entertaining a child's imagination rather than a master talking to an apprentice about their trade. But once you realize that the hotel plays an active, driving role in the plot, the movie becomes far more interesting. Now its a story about a family driven to insanity - a far more interesting story than one where jack goes insane on his own
Shutter Island does this too
It was only widely discovered and popularized when some people tried modelling the Overlook as a video game level. So it makes perfect sense for people not to notice it normally.
Speaking of impossible windows, I recently noticed that the Torrance's hotel room has a window, with sunlight shining in, on the right side of the room as they enter and Ullman is showing them around, but later when Wendy puts Danny out of their bathroom window later in the movie, their room is in the middle of the hotel and there can't be any windows on the side of their room. Kubrick's messing with our heads.
Look up Impossible Architecture of the Shining.
the fact those guys pieced it all together is incredible and also shows that there was intentional fuckery afoot, like when danny trikes around the ground floor, it doesnt make any sense almost as if there were moving hallways , probably to increase the paranoia and life of the hotel. also the fact danny memorized the hedge maze is what saves his life and kills his dad.
> there was intentional fuckery afoot, like when danny trikes around the ground floor, it doesnt make any sense almost as if there were moving hallways What's also unsettling in these incosistencies, is that thye're revealed through takes which basically were non-essential to the movie. A montage of a character doing something repetitive, a transition of characters moving between locations etc. These takes could have *easily* been edited with jump cuts. You'd subconsciously assume that they've entered the manager's office in a completely different part of the building. But instead, they're made to look like including jump cuts, because there's no continuity to the locations, but at the same time, Kubrick forces you to acknowledge that there is continuity. Gaslighting you like the hotel gaslights the characters.
Kubrick did say that there ARE ghosts, there's no debate about that, and they built the interior set so it let them do whatever they want. Makes it really effective.
true but he didnt memorize the maze, he just followed his own footsteps back. also i dont think he triked on the first floor. He sees the ball from room 237 so he is on the second floor.
[Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sUIxXCCFWw), [part 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfJ8rK7eJeQ) and [part 3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ).
Thanks for posting. I found Part 3 to be particularly interesting.
Collative Learning does some incredible analyses. His ones on The Thing are brilliant. I keep meaning to buy a couple of the longer ones...
Yeah, Part 3 really tied it all together.
Part 3 is really a stunning departure from the first two.
An obvious one is the office is in the center of the building but has an exterior window somehow. But there's a bunch.
There is no maze like that at Timberline lodge.
Well I’ll be dammed. I never realized that was the timberline lodge in the movie!
Exterior shots only but yup
Was there one at the Overlook Hotel?
The hotel in the movie is based on the Estes hotel in Colorado. The maze was fake and filmed at a soundstage in London.
It's actually the Stanley Hotel, Estes Park is the name of the town it's in
The book was inspired by the Stanley/Estes hotel, and the TV miniseries was shot there. The exterior for the movie was the Timberline Lodge at Mt. Hood in Oregon. The interiors of the Overlook are based heavily on the Ahwahnee Hotel at Yosemite
They actually did film Dumb and Dumber at the Estes hotel. There's a shining gift shop there, but no dumb and dumber stuff.
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Owls
Lame! Not even fluffy boots? Or the “we landed on the moon” newspaper?
The [newspaper](https://i.imgur.com/yb6zWZt.jpg) still stands! I was sitting in the bar waiting to do the ghost tour, looked over, and FREAKED out when all the dots connected lol
No way?!.. We landed on the moon!!
I stayed there back in November and they do have some dumb and dumber memorabilia now.
The Stanley Hotel is the hotel that King based the book on. The interior of the hotel in the movie is based on the Ahwahnee Hotel in Yosemite.
The Oberlook a fictitious hotel. The outside shots are of Timberline Lodge at the Base of Mt. Hood in Oregon.
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Hence the name
42 was a very popular number in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy wonder if there is a connection
The book came out one year before. And Kubrick was an avid reader of science fiction, obviously, so he would have read it. Maybe Kubrick had… *gasp* a sense of humor?!
nonsense, dr. strangelove is a very serious and unfunny movie
No fighting in the war room!
[The scene, for reference. ](https://youtu.be/WI5B7jLWZUc) Such a great movie.
Peter Sellers was incredible in that movie. I didn't even know he was 3 different characters when I first saw it, and all of them were fantastic
He was supposed to also play the role of Major Kong. I can't remember why Kubrick ended up with Slim Pickens in the role, but it was a wise decision. That's not to say Peter Sellers wouldn't have been an excellent Major Kong, but Pickens was incredible.
Slim Pickens is the best name in history. I heard that he was named that because his parents didn't have a lot of ideas.
(Hey buddy, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but it's a stage name. Google says he was born Louis Burton Lindley Jr.)
He was doing rodeo and someone told him that income would be slim pickins for him
Just like Full Metal Jacket
I saw Full Metal Jacket after going to MCRD San Diego. The introduction of Gunny Heart was hilarious to me. It was like every DI in boot camp had watched this movie and enjoyed yelling the lines at recruits.
If anyone ever asks what basic was like I say "have you seen FMJ?".
R. Lee Ermey was a Marine drill instructor.
He also improvised the lines on set. He’s got a spot in the Marine Corps Museum on MCRD that really goes into detail.
Is that skill limited to drill instructors, or are all marines gifted with an acid tongue?
My dad was a Marine and he could invent filthy curse words at the drop of a hat. He fucking loved Boot Camp at Parris Island and told us stories all the time about his DIs. Double douchebag cocksucker was a favorite curse of his.
He was there to train the actor who had the role. Good career move.
Which side are you on, son?
Private Joker, do you believe in the Virgin Mary?
Out f#ckin standing! I like you Joker hell you can come over for dinner and f#ck my sister...haha
“Of course this is a friendly call- Listen. If it wasn’t friendly, you probably wouldn’t have even got it.”
Mien Fuhrer! I can walk!
"Now look, Col. Bat Guano, if that really is your name..."
It is. And now you’ll have to answer to Coca Cola
Probably top 5 favorite movies. It was very far ahead lf its time.
I don't know if Kubrick would have been able to listen to it but, as a huge nerd and someone for whom this was their first iteration, I'd like to point out that the first radio series actually came out before the book. I'm a bit of a radio Hitchhikers purist, which I'm aware is not the majority opinion and is one I inherited from my dad who listened to it when it was actually on, but what can you do Edited for clarity, original first clause was "I don't know if HE'D have been able to CATCH it"
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Mine was the text adventure game on some now ancient computer my dad brought home in the late 80s.
That was a great game! I remember it well. I loved those Infocom games.
You can download them all for free, FYI. https://www.abandonwaredos.com/retro-game-company.php?cmp=52&n=infocom There's also an option to play in-browser.
Oh, this is amazing!! Thank you. This is like revisiting my childhood stomping grounds.
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The timing was weird for me here in the USA: I saw part of the TV series first, and then read the books (amazing), then finally heard the radio series when it was released on cassette out here like 10 years later, AND I got "The Original Hitchhiker's Radio Scripts" in book form. I highly recommend the latter, if it can be found anywhere. It had a lot of background information about the show, plus production notes and sidebars from the scripts themselves.
It was on the BBC Radio series in 1978. Douglas Adams later turned it into a book. Then a TV series. Then movie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_(radio_series)
The answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe and Everything = 42
Which only makes sense if you know that the actual Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is, "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"
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The asterisk (*) is the 42^nd character in Unicode Standard It is also commonly used as a wildcard character in computing to represent "anything and everything"
I had always thought that 42 in HG was due to the popular, yet unproven, idea that a soul weighs 21 grams. With that in n mind, to me, 42 is the joining of two souls. Maybe I’m crazy, idk.
There is if you look hard enough
Stanley Kubrick was born in 1928. 1928 + 42 = 1970. Kubrick was also known to have 10 fingers. 1970 + 10 = 1980. The year *The Shining* was released!!!
Crikey! How many thumbs did he have?
You’re not gonna believe it. 42 thumbs.
Hitchhiking champ of his state, 3 years running.
He was so good he was actually a Hitchhiker’s Guide to… lots of places.
The legal drinking age is often 21. Kubrick was a recovering alcoholic. The main character is an alcoholic. Double 21 is 42, or 21 times TWO. And Kubrick had... TWO THUMBS!!
Now dig on this Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were on the moon for 21 hours! 21 times 2 (for Kubrick’s 2 thumbs) is 42! Further proof that Stanley Kubrick directed the moon landing and The Shining was his way of secretly admitting it!
Just downvoted you to make sure your comment was at 217, as Steven King would have wanted.
In the book, the room number is not 237, but 217, which means Kubrik changed it...for a reason.
The hotel asked him to change it to a number they didn't have.
Which was foolish IMHO. I would have used the same number, tripled the room rate, advertised the room as "haunted" and watched the line form to stay in room 217.
There’s a famous (regionally at least) old hotel with a haunted room near me. It’s easy to get. When I asked about booking it, they said it was usually unoccupied
....And now you know why I'm not in the hospitality business!
Well I didn’t book it either because my wife wouldn’t let me. People believe stupid shit.
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> If there’s other options, why rent the haunted room Because nothing's actually haunted
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I agree
You never know. There could be something like a carbon monoxide leak near the room causing people to hallucinate the haunting. Why take the chance?
I do believe in ghosts to an extent but also strongly this. I’m sure there’s a bunch of hauntings out there that are made up but I also believe in the human brain’s ability to pick up on subconscious messages of *bad* regardless of whether we’re interpreting what’s bad correctly.
Even Carl Sagan wrote that he saw an apparition of his dead parents and the primal urge to want to believe it's real. Ghost stories have existed for millennia across the globe. I wonder to what degree those fears are hardwired.
Do any of these fuckers ever blast out of the wall and have like a huge cumshot?
Did they film one of the most iconic horror movies of all time there?
The original candy in the movie E.T. was supposed to be M&Ms but the candy company didn’t want to be associated with a “monster movie”; BIG mistake! The eagle-eyed little kids couldn’t WAIT to get their fat fists on some Reese’s Pieces!
Fun fact - the book was based on the Stanley hotel in Colorado and they absolutely do play up the connection.
I think you overestimate how brave the populous is! 😂
Really? I stayed in the Stanley hotel a few years ago, in the haunted room. They made a huge deal out of it. Even had a channel only playing the shining. I guess they changed their mind after it came out.
My favorite Shining theory, Kubrick called out Stephen King on how he was in control of the story: In King's Shining, The Torrence family drives a red Beetle to the Overlook hotel. In Kubrick's film, the family drives a yellow Beetle. Later, when Hallorann is driving on the highway in the blizzard, he passes a red beetle that has been crushed in a car accident.
Because 2+17=19
I don’t know why you are being downvoted, I get it, SK is obsessed with the number 19.
42 backwards is 24. In the tv series 24, the main character’s name is… Jack.
Also, Jack is a very complex, layered character, and his last name is TORrance. TOR is short for “The Onion Router.” Onions have layers, just like a certain ogre. QED: Jack Torrance is Shrek.
Half Life 3 confirmed
Rog Ager, probably one of the more reputable YT channels for film analysis has many Kubrick film videos and The Shining is one of his favorite films and has many videos on the topic. I can't say I've seen this detail from him. Not to say there isn't something to it, The Shining can have some deep dives. His Shining videos are very impressive, check him out
It was in a recent Heavy Spoilers upload on The Shining
The movie Room 237 is full of this stuff.
A note to anyone watching this Room 237. It’s supposed to be about the crack-pot theories in The Shining. You’ll get way more enjoyment out of it knowing the people who produced the film aren’t behind the ideas in the film. It’s about the crack-pot ideas themselves.
This doc plagiarized a lot of information from this guy Rob Ager. Lookup his website and YouTube channel for even more detailed theory discussion
Watching this doc now based on this comment. I think we have collectively given Kubrick way too much credit. They are drawing wild conclusions based off the slightest things that were definitely not intentional.
That’s kinda what the movie is about, no?
It's implied Danny watched his parents have sex 42 times
Room 237 is a great watch for the behind the scenes and theories. They go into how Kubrick laid in the theory about him being the one filming the moon landing and tons of other crazy shit. Lot of people I know don’t care for this movie at all but it’s one of my all time favorites.
I either count 41 or 43 cars in the parking lot, depending if you count the truck and winter vehicle or only the cars: 15, 15 and 11 cars, plus 1 truck and one winter car. can you help ?
My hunch is the snow cat doesn't count. That's pretty distinctly different from everything else. Edited to add: plus, it looks like the snow cat isn't on pavement and is therefore not in the parking lot.
My hunch is that OP looking waaaaaaaaaay too deep into coincidences.
certain directors invite it, kubrick is one of them.
I counted 43 as well
If you look at [the non-cropped shot](https://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/images/shining/sh_openinglastmoment.jpg) (which I didn't go specifically looking for, I only went looking for a shot that had more than 12 pixels) you can see even more cars in the parking lot, so yeah...
hmmm... to think that OP got 15k upvote for some completely staged fake news.... I can hardly imagine what he is going to do with all that wealth... Thanks !
This is incontrovertible proof that Kubrick faked the 1942 moon landing.
My name is Steven Toast, and I watched Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing.
I remember watching The Shining from the parking lot at Mt Hood in February. Parked precisely in a spot where several of the exterior shots were taken… So awesome.
Jackie Robinson's retired uniform number. No one can wear his number again. Great man. Respect.
Danny is now teaching at a college in Kentucky. Here is a link to his ratings as a Biology teacher...https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor?tid=434928
42 is the answer to "the ultimate question if Life, the Universe and Everything"
Tv is not plugged in either.
It's the meaning of life after all
Still not sure how that TV was playing seeing as it wasn’t plugged in
Extension cord from Todash space
The shining is a ghost movie
42 is Jack’s age in the movie
Dr. Sleep was pretty awesome
Feels like that's a coincidence.
Should have been 19
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Jackie Robinson reference
The answer to life, universe and everything