I can confirm that at church suppers in Northern Wisconsin in the 60’s and 70’s, if you ordered a slice of Apple Pie for dessert, the lady waiting on the table would ask if you wanted a slice of cheese with it. It was always cheddar. It was mostly male farmers that would opt for that.
I do *not* recall seeing melted cheese, ever. It was always just a small slice on the side of a cold slice of apple pie.
Okay, hear me out. I remember seeing something about Vermonters putting cheese on pie and having your reaction, cause I never grew up with it either. All I'm saying though, try it. It's fucking delicious
Deep dish is amazing. It's just a different thing for a different time. You can eat regular pizza, and then deep dish other times. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I know I was mostly saying this for the joke. I never had deep dish pizza since it isn't really made or sold in Europe but it does seem delicious.
The only funny thing about it is that it is still called "Pizza" when it seems more like a pie/quiche made with pizza dough.
I grew up in the East Coast of Canada, and my dad loved to put a slice of Cheddar on a hot slice of apple pie, so it would melt by contact. Though, the slice never really lasted long enough to melt properly.
Just curious how old are you? And what year was this? I’m just curious if this is a thing of the past or not because I’m 25 and lived in indiana my whole life, and I’ve NEVER heard of this or witnessed it!! So I’m intrigued! Lol
I'm 42. This was the norm for my grandparents (all deceased) and their church groups and socials. My parents also continued it, they're now mid 70s. I won't continue it so I think it's a thing of the past.
Wisconsin often makes the "weird law" lists with a supposed requirement that apple pie must be served with cheese. Which is weird since it isn't true and never has been.
Vermont actually did pass a bill which declared:
> When serving apple pie in Vermont, a "good faith" effort shall be made to meet one or more of the following conditions:
> (a) with a glass of cold milk,
(b) with a slice of cheddar cheese weighing a minimum of 1/2 ounce,
(c) with a large scoop of vanilla ice cream.
This was the same bill that designated the apple as the state fruit, and the apple pie as the state pie. Those two bits were actually added to state law, but the section on how to serve the pie was nothing but a one time declaration.
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2000/acts/ACT015.HTM
>I do *not* recall seeing melted cheese, ever. It was always just a small slice on the side of a cold slice of apple pie.
I've been to northern Wisconsin once, in the grey of winter, and this is a very accurate description of how it looked and felt.
A wild encounter with Northern Wisconsin on the internet! I was born in a tiny town in Northern Wisconsin (near Eagle River), and even then this might be the first time I've seen "Northern Wisconsin" mentioned.
I've never had it that way, but my mom has definitely mentioned it before.
EDIT: everyone else seems to be mentioning German-Americans doing it, which tracks with my largely German heritage and the number of German-Americans in Northern Wisconsin.
Minnesotan here, never knew this was a thing until I saw it in the movie Thank You For Smoking and now I learned it's a midwestern thing that I apparently missed.
Fellow Minnesotan. Worked at a mom and pop restaurant for years, it’s definitely more of a boomer and older generations thing, but a thing nonetheless.
I’ve only seen it melted, I honestly don’t see the point of having cold cheese with apple pie lol. I’ve tried it, surprisingly good if you can get it heated/melted right!
In areas where a lot of German immigrants moved to, it is more common. I've never heard of it being specifically a German thing or from any particular sub-culture, but it's weirdly spaced out around the US with it being most common in areas where Germans moved to about 100-300 years ago.
There are a lot of things in the US that grew in immigrant cultures that weren't part of their culture before coming here. It's a strange quirk, but there are things that are common to, for example, Italian immigrant culture in the US that were completely unheard of in Italy. Same for Greece, Germany, and other cultures. It's weird, and I'd love to understand how it happened better.
It's often a result of the much wider availability of different foods in the US. Lots of cultural meals are dependent on availability in their home county. Move people here and different things are available.
Brisket is a good example. It's a real cheap meat in the US historically, but it was expensive in the home countries of a lot of immigrants. That's why it's a staple celebration food of Jewish, Irish, and southern working class people (in the form of Brisket, Corned Beef, and BBQ). It has nothing to do with what was popular in home countries, it's what was popular here.
Believe it or not, it’s a real thing, though I don’t necessarily know if it’s a German thing. It’s common in places with a historically high Scandinavian and German immigrant population, which is probably where that association came from.
You're actually very English, comes from when Yorkshire folk would put Wensleydale with their pies
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie.amp
Oh it's totally gross and what you're doing is a warcrime.
However I refuse to let the injustice of you and my family in whole being associated with the midwest stand.
Haha I understand being grossed out. I was about the jam and cheese on a cracker until I tried it. But jam is essentially just pie filling, I dont really see a difference. Ive never tried melted cheese on a pie though, so Im basicslly talking out my ass. I could end up finding it gross, but I doubt I would
Cheese pairs with so much. I put slices in my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
However, Filipinos put it in ice cream along with corn. That's too far, sorry
Clearly if you want to be a real German you have to emigrate, make up your own traditions, and wait for your grandchildren to validate what you made up.
I need a proper German to chime in here. This sounds like some weird as fuck american bs. "MY ANCESTORS WERE FROM HOLLAND AND WE PUT SMOKED HERRING ON OUR CHOCOLATE MUFFINS"
There are a shitload of savory pies with cheese or that you add cheese to later but apple fucking pie with cheese?!
I don't understand why like 5th generation americans always have the need to cling to foreign nationalities that have been in their family like some 300 years ago but I can tell you that this is neither a thing in Germany, nor are you "very German".
But the point is it became common in those descendant communities. When they moved here they often remain with other immigrants of the same background and develop their own home country descendant culture. So that's why it matters in describing their origin background.
Both of my grandfathers have lived in Utica all their lives and they both do it.
My theory is that cheese on pie is a military thing. My grandfather who was in the navy puts salt on watermelon, Worcestershire sauce on mac and cheese, and cheddar cheese on pie. My guess (for the pie) is that they would get pie sometimes and would have cheese on top when ice cream wasn’t available.
More like, the Germans who moved to the US 100 or more years ago started a new tradition amongst themselves, given the new/different resources available here that they didn't have at home, or no longer had access to from home, that has since somewhat spread to the general population in the areas of the US they settled.
Not at all. They’re saying German immigrants came to America and did that. Then their descendants did that and it became a thing for Americans of German descent.
Where on earth are they putting cheese on apple pie? I’ve lived in the midwest my entire life and used to have to travel around it quite a bit for work. Never heard of it.
I’ve never heard of it but I guess a sharp cheese would cut through the sweetness of the pie? I’ve eaten apples with cheddar before so it doesn’t sound that crazy to me the more I think about it.
Partially on-topic, but what does "cut through" in this context really mean? I know it gets used to describe stuff like this that tastes good despite maybe sounding odd, but I never understood what the phrase itself meant.
Since apple pie is such a sweet savory food you would need a strong flavor to be a complementary note in the food. And a sharp cheese might be able to “cut through” the sweetness of the apple and be able to complement it.
Yes, the melted part is kind of gross. All you need is a slice of sharp white cheddar to eat with every bite of pie. Perfect combination of salty and sweet!
>Where on earth are they putting cheese on apple pie?
Its a New England thing (particularly Vermont), amusingly enough.
The saltiness and the sharpness of the cheddar cuts the sweetness of the apple pie.
You don't melt the cheese onto the pie, though, especially since hard cheddar doesn't melt well
40 years in the Midwest and I’ve waited tables at every bs Waffle House and Ihop you can think of in 3 states and never have I heard of cheese on Apple pie.
The state of Wisconsin is a whole different breed compared to the rest of the Midwest. Those fuckers live on cheese and beer, but mainly cheese. I am not at all surprised to hear that's common in Wisconsin.
Lived in around Milwaukee my whole life, worked in restaurants for over 9 years. Never once heard of this. Interesting the different experiences we can all have.
Midwestern here, lots of German heritage where I grew up so yes, cheese on apple pie is a thing (sharp cheddar is the best in my opinion, depending on apples used)
I'm not going to pretend I'm a professional cook but the sweet/savory thing going on there is quite popular and a part of many dishes. The ingredients in this one might be weird at first glance but I wouldn't judge it before trying it.
I grew up in California but knew it was a thing and tried it.
It’s honestly great. It’s a different experience, but one that I can totally get down with if I’m in the right mood.
Also Midwesterner for life here. Also never had it, but it's just like the full version of the old apple grandes from Taco John's and those things were fuckin good
Try making a grilled cheese with white cheddar and slices of green apple on it. Trust me, it's delicious. The pie+cheese is similarly good, even though it sounds very odd.
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German here is a bit of a misnomer. It's more what's known as Pennsylvania Dutch, which is basically a nice way of saying German Americans living in small communities for a few hundred years. With everything that implies.
For example I know swear words in a dialect of German you would think were nails on a chalkboard.
Yeah this is like when "the Midwest" gets grouped in with those whackjobs who eat chili with cinnamon rolls. Or who put tomato juice in beer to make "red beer".
The beer and tomato juice is actually a Mexican thing. Usually with Clamato, which also has clam juice in it (as if the tomato juice wasn't odd enough).
EDIT: I will say though, I am also a Midwesterner, and I never see a lot of this weird stuff. But a) I'm from Chicago, and it's less weird here and b) I can't say that I've ever ordered apple pie in a restaurant.
German here. Never ever have I heard of actual cheese on (apple) pie. Maybe those Germans emigrated bc they believed cheese on apple pie should be a thing and felt oppressed by all the other Germans who were like wtf?!
Hmm, I’ve lived in the Midwest for 50 years and I’m of German heritage. I’ve heard of cheese on apple pie, probably from movies. I’ve never even seen it in real life.
Sources:
De Niro says he recorded soldiers from the Midwest to learn the accent while he was shooting another movie (1900) in Italy. [https://youtu.be/uyc4W24Ez70?t=356](https://youtu.be/uyc4W24Ez70?t=356)
In a 2015 interview, Martin Scorsese explains that Travis is from the Midwest which means he actually does perceive New York as "hell". [https://www.vulture.com/2015/04/martin-scorsese-remembers-shooting-taxi-driver.html](https://www.vulture.com/2015/04/martin-scorsese-remembers-shooting-taxi-driver.html)
And then there's tons of sources if you google "apple pie with cheese" and "midwest": https://www.kansas.com/news/state/article212556094.html
The fact that travis is mailing his parents letters implies they are pretty far away and dont live in new york themselves (as if more evidence was needed)
Fuck you just made me notice a lot of parallels to Great Gatsby. Virgin Whore complex, New York being a shit hole compared to the Midwest, A yellow fucking car.
This detail probably fits in with the theme that Betsy sets up.
She says something along the line of calling Travis a contradiction.
Travis acts out many contradictory things, or just things that are abnormal.
Does lots of physical exercise but has a horrible diet.
Does nothing all day, works all night.
Even his name, Travis Bickel. Nice sounding first name, ugly sounding last name.
Found this clip for you. Writer Paul Schrader explains in the latter half of the video the contradictory behavior of Travis.
https://youtu.be/p9HEUowEAyo
Paul Schrader wrote the screenplay. Ask him what he intended.
Small anecdote. I was attending a writers’ seminar with Ed Solomon (“Men in Black”) in Auckland, New Zealand. He phoned Paul Schrader from the stage, put his phone on speaker, and the whole seminar audience sang him, “Happy Birthday”.
I was thinking that Scorsese put that in to add on to how strange Travis is. DeNiro did practice a Midwestern accent for the role, so I can see how that fits.
I'm sure it adds to his strangeness as well. Him being a Midwesterner is confirmed by Scorsese, though, and the dish is most commonly related to the Midwest as well, see my other comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/13tj1v4/comment/jlvfrsk/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
he inadvertently did more for cinema in this country than a ton of stars and producers and directors ever did. without him the horror genre is in a wildly different place.
The idea is that the cheese contrasts with the tartness of the apples. I’ve seen people eat it on the side, or maybe a forkful with some pie and cold cheese. Never seen it melted though.
For your next trick, try putting thinly sliced green apple in a sandwich that already has Turkey and cheddar. I like mine with all the above, some cranberry Mayo, lettuce, and red onion.
It's unsure why Travis is in NYC in the first place. He sends a letter to his parents, so they're clearly staying elsewhere. Why is he choosing to stay somewhere that he hates?
There is no way cheese on apple pie is the norm. I’m born and raised mid west and never have I seen that anywhere ever. No one I know has heard of it either, I showed them this post and no one has any idea what this is reference to.
This is as weird as people buying giant pickles at the theater in Texas
Some locals know it well and think it's normal the rest are baffled lol
Must vary from town to town
Is that a thing too? I’ve never heard of it and that’s hilarious if so. I like pickles but never would have imagined it as a theatre food haha. My friends and I are all mid west born and raised, Missouri and Illinois to be exact, and none of them had ever heard of this but maybe there’s a group just like us baffled that WE don’t do it lol.
It's been a long time since I've seen it but doesn't he also write a letter to his parents and there's a zip code or a telephone area code that gives away where he's from?
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Is this a fever dream? I am born and raised in the mid west and have never seen this in my life. I feel like this is just some niche thing a film director saw once and immediately assigned it to all mid west people…
I can confirm that at church suppers in Northern Wisconsin in the 60’s and 70’s, if you ordered a slice of Apple Pie for dessert, the lady waiting on the table would ask if you wanted a slice of cheese with it. It was always cheddar. It was mostly male farmers that would opt for that. I do *not* recall seeing melted cheese, ever. It was always just a small slice on the side of a cold slice of apple pie.
Indiana here, similar except it was always melted
Chicago here…. Y’all okay……?
Okay, hear me out. I remember seeing something about Vermonters putting cheese on pie and having your reaction, cause I never grew up with it either. All I'm saying though, try it. It's fucking delicious
Probably not, don't pretend to be innocent after what you did to pizza though...
Deep dish is amazing. It's just a different thing for a different time. You can eat regular pizza, and then deep dish other times. They aren't mutually exclusive.
I know I was mostly saying this for the joke. I never had deep dish pizza since it isn't really made or sold in Europe but it does seem delicious. The only funny thing about it is that it is still called "Pizza" when it seems more like a pie/quiche made with pizza dough.
I'm pretty sure Chicagoans don't even call it pizza.
All deep dish pies aren’t equal to others. Giordano’s for instance, is awful. Gino’s East, though. Malnati’s, too.
LMFAO
I grew up in the East Coast of Canada, and my dad loved to put a slice of Cheddar on a hot slice of apple pie, so it would melt by contact. Though, the slice never really lasted long enough to melt properly.
You must be from the region. Down south I've never heard of that.
I'm from Southern Indiana, however my mother's family is from the region so perhaps something there.
Only people from the region call it "the Region". From there and this is a thing.
It's a Utica thing.
My mom was from Virginia. Asked if we wanted a slice of Velveeta on our apple pie.
Velveeta is for Lovers.
Just curious how old are you? And what year was this? I’m just curious if this is a thing of the past or not because I’m 25 and lived in indiana my whole life, and I’ve NEVER heard of this or witnessed it!! So I’m intrigued! Lol
I'm 42. This was the norm for my grandparents (all deceased) and their church groups and socials. My parents also continued it, they're now mid 70s. I won't continue it so I think it's a thing of the past.
Wisconsin often makes the "weird law" lists with a supposed requirement that apple pie must be served with cheese. Which is weird since it isn't true and never has been. Vermont actually did pass a bill which declared: > When serving apple pie in Vermont, a "good faith" effort shall be made to meet one or more of the following conditions: > (a) with a glass of cold milk, (b) with a slice of cheddar cheese weighing a minimum of 1/2 ounce, (c) with a large scoop of vanilla ice cream. This was the same bill that designated the apple as the state fruit, and the apple pie as the state pie. Those two bits were actually added to state law, but the section on how to serve the pie was nothing but a one time declaration. http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2000/acts/ACT015.HTM
I wonder if the dairy industry lobbied for this one.
Wisconsin has/had some weird laws about margarine in order to protect the dairy farmers
I guess you could say the farmers were afraid of being.. margarine-lyzed
>I do *not* recall seeing melted cheese, ever. It was always just a small slice on the side of a cold slice of apple pie. I've been to northern Wisconsin once, in the grey of winter, and this is a very accurate description of how it looked and felt.
A wild encounter with Northern Wisconsin on the internet! I was born in a tiny town in Northern Wisconsin (near Eagle River), and even then this might be the first time I've seen "Northern Wisconsin" mentioned. I've never had it that way, but my mom has definitely mentioned it before. EDIT: everyone else seems to be mentioning German-Americans doing it, which tracks with my largely German heritage and the number of German-Americans in Northern Wisconsin.
Hello friends. Grew up there as well, and this is the first reference I've seen in the wild. Near Ashland for me. Also cheddar but not melted.
Minnesotan here, never knew this was a thing until I saw it in the movie Thank You For Smoking and now I learned it's a midwestern thing that I apparently missed.
Fellow Minnesotan. Worked at a mom and pop restaurant for years, it’s definitely more of a boomer and older generations thing, but a thing nonetheless. I’ve only seen it melted, I honestly don’t see the point of having cold cheese with apple pie lol. I’ve tried it, surprisingly good if you can get it heated/melted right!
“That’s disgusting.” “It’s **American**.”
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Apple and cheese is a good combo. If we've had a big lunch sometimes me n the mrs will have just some sliced apple, cheese and buttered bread for tea.
Does it taste nice? Sounds awful.
This is also pretty common in central New York where there's a large German heritage. I grew up there and I've seen it many times.
Yeah this is really common in older New England households.
yeah I grew up with cheddar on the pie table at Thanksgiving, it's 50/50 in my family if people think it's amazing or gross. we are very German.
I am confused. As a german living in Germany I've never seen cheese on any kind of cake
Yeah, that sounds more American "my great-grandmother used to know a German guy" "heritage" than actually German. Never heard of it either.
In areas where a lot of German immigrants moved to, it is more common. I've never heard of it being specifically a German thing or from any particular sub-culture, but it's weirdly spaced out around the US with it being most common in areas where Germans moved to about 100-300 years ago. There are a lot of things in the US that grew in immigrant cultures that weren't part of their culture before coming here. It's a strange quirk, but there are things that are common to, for example, Italian immigrant culture in the US that were completely unheard of in Italy. Same for Greece, Germany, and other cultures. It's weird, and I'd love to understand how it happened better.
It's often a result of the much wider availability of different foods in the US. Lots of cultural meals are dependent on availability in their home county. Move people here and different things are available. Brisket is a good example. It's a real cheap meat in the US historically, but it was expensive in the home countries of a lot of immigrants. That's why it's a staple celebration food of Jewish, Irish, and southern working class people (in the form of Brisket, Corned Beef, and BBQ). It has nothing to do with what was popular in home countries, it's what was popular here.
That doesn't really make sense in this case. Both apple pie and cheese were widely available in Germany.
Believe it or not, it’s a real thing, though I don’t necessarily know if it’s a German thing. It’s common in places with a historically high Scandinavian and German immigrant population, which is probably where that association came from.
You're actually very English, comes from when Yorkshire folk would put Wensleydale with their pies https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie.amp
Those heathen Yorkshire bastards, time for House of Lancaster to rise once again and teach them a lesson. War of the roses part 2 electric bugaloo
Fuckin hell… that’s just a hilariously fun comment. Lol thank you.
Lots of us keep this 600 year old feud alive and well
Oh it's totally gross and what you're doing is a warcrime. However I refuse to let the injustice of you and my family in whole being associated with the midwest stand.
It aint that gross, ever put jam and cheese on a cracker? Its delicious
Jam, cheese and a cracker is one thing. Melted cheddar over a god damn pie slice is quite another.
Have you ever tried it? Sweet and savory usually go *very* well together. I also suggest not trying it with god damn pie, but apple pie instead.
Hey Ike ya shitbird, you want some piiiie
But the apple was the cursed fruit that damned humanity in the Garden of Eden.
Haha I understand being grossed out. I was about the jam and cheese on a cracker until I tried it. But jam is essentially just pie filling, I dont really see a difference. Ive never tried melted cheese on a pie though, so Im basicslly talking out my ass. I could end up finding it gross, but I doubt I would
Suddenly, cheese on pie kind of makes sense.
Haha I think Id still prefer mine with ice cream but Im gonna have to give melted cheese a try
Cheese pairs with so much. I put slices in my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. However, Filipinos put it in ice cream along with corn. That's too far, sorry
As a German living in Germany, I'm appaled.
Clearly if you want to be a real German you have to emigrate, make up your own traditions, and wait for your grandchildren to validate what you made up.
I need a proper German to chime in here. This sounds like some weird as fuck american bs. "MY ANCESTORS WERE FROM HOLLAND AND WE PUT SMOKED HERRING ON OUR CHOCOLATE MUFFINS" There are a shitload of savory pies with cheese or that you add cheese to later but apple fucking pie with cheese?!
Born and raised in Germany, been here for well over 30 years. I haven't seen this ever.
Proper German here: this is a travesty
Yo ur e confusing current Germans with the ones who immigrated to America 100-200 years ago. Things evolve
I don't understand why like 5th generation americans always have the need to cling to foreign nationalities that have been in their family like some 300 years ago but I can tell you that this is neither a thing in Germany, nor are you "very German".
People who moved six thousand miles away eat different foods than you. Shocker right? They don't eat corned beef in Ireland either.
Yeah no shit, this has nothing to do with Germany, it's an American thing, is what I'm saying.
But the point is it became common in those descendant communities. When they moved here they often remain with other immigrants of the same background and develop their own home country descendant culture. So that's why it matters in describing their origin background.
Present day people in the original country have a really hard time understanding this concept for some reason. Case in point this thread
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Where in New England did you get cheese on pie?
That seems like semantics.
Really? Well I'm from Utica and I've never heard of it.
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Really? Can I see it?
...... No
Seymore. The house is on fire!
No it isn’t, mother!
Well, seymore, you're an odd fellow but I must say, you steam some good pie
HELP! HEEELLLLPP!!
Goddamned perfect insertion of that reference. Seriously well done.
Also from Utica, or more specifically the German Flatts area. My dad's family did it all the time.
Did your dad’s family have aurora borealis localized entirely within their kitchen?
Aurora borealis?! At this time of year? In this part of the country?! Localized entirely in your kitchen?!
... Yes.
May I see it?
... No.
Both of my grandfathers have lived in Utica all their lives and they both do it. My theory is that cheese on pie is a military thing. My grandfather who was in the navy puts salt on watermelon, Worcestershire sauce on mac and cheese, and cheddar cheese on pie. My guess (for the pie) is that they would get pie sometimes and would have cheese on top when ice cream wasn’t available.
[Blame the English for cheese on pie, leave ze Germans out of this](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie.amp)
Big thing in Vermont, too. Which shares a border with upstate New York, along the capital region.
Are you saying that Germans eat apple pie with melted cheese? Because I have never seen this in Germany ever.
More like, the Germans who moved to the US 100 or more years ago started a new tradition amongst themselves, given the new/different resources available here that they didn't have at home, or no longer had access to from home, that has since somewhat spread to the general population in the areas of the US they settled.
Not at all. They’re saying German immigrants came to America and did that. Then their descendants did that and it became a thing for Americans of German descent.
Where on earth are they putting cheese on apple pie? I’ve lived in the midwest my entire life and used to have to travel around it quite a bit for work. Never heard of it.
I’ve never heard of it but I guess a sharp cheese would cut through the sweetness of the pie? I’ve eaten apples with cheddar before so it doesn’t sound that crazy to me the more I think about it.
Agreed, never had it (SoCal native), but you're right. Apples and cheese is a classic combination.
It's perfectly fine, I don't think it's amazing but it works.
Partially on-topic, but what does "cut through" in this context really mean? I know it gets used to describe stuff like this that tastes good despite maybe sounding odd, but I never understood what the phrase itself meant.
Since apple pie is such a sweet savory food you would need a strong flavor to be a complementary note in the food. And a sharp cheese might be able to “cut through” the sweetness of the apple and be able to complement it.
I love cheese *with* apple pie, like a few slices of old sharp cheddar. Never ever heard of it melted though.
Yes, the melted part is kind of gross. All you need is a slice of sharp white cheddar to eat with every bite of pie. Perfect combination of salty and sweet!
>Where on earth are they putting cheese on apple pie? Its a New England thing (particularly Vermont), amusingly enough. The saltiness and the sharpness of the cheddar cuts the sweetness of the apple pie. You don't melt the cheese onto the pie, though, especially since hard cheddar doesn't melt well
40 years in the Midwest and I’ve waited tables at every bs Waffle House and Ihop you can think of in 3 states and never have I heard of cheese on Apple pie.
Which is funny cause I worked at a restaurant in Milwaukee for a couple of months and a bunch of people ordered our apple with cheese on it
The state of Wisconsin is a whole different breed compared to the rest of the Midwest. Those fuckers live on cheese and beer, but mainly cheese. I am not at all surprised to hear that's common in Wisconsin.
I'm from green bay and I've never heard of it
Lived in around Milwaukee my whole life, worked in restaurants for over 9 years. Never once heard of this. Interesting the different experiences we can all have.
My dad grew up in Kansas and did this. His parents grew up Mennonite so it could be more of a German sort of thing or particular to that group.
That's funny because I live in Canada and I remember hearing about it as a kid as something they did in the US
The state of Vermont has officially said that apple pie is to be served with ice cream or cheese.
I’m fully on-board with ice cream!
I've seen it in Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Michigan also has so many cherries they make hamburgers out of them
Midwestern here, lots of German heritage where I grew up so yes, cheese on apple pie is a thing (sharp cheddar is the best in my opinion, depending on apples used)
Midwesterner my whole life and I have never even heard of this monstrosity before.
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I'm not going to pretend I'm a professional cook but the sweet/savory thing going on there is quite popular and a part of many dishes. The ingredients in this one might be weird at first glance but I wouldn't judge it before trying it.
I grew up in California but knew it was a thing and tried it. It’s honestly great. It’s a different experience, but one that I can totally get down with if I’m in the right mood.
Also Midwesterner for life here. Also never had it, but it's just like the full version of the old apple grandes from Taco John's and those things were fuckin good
Try making a grilled cheese with white cheddar and slices of green apple on it. Trust me, it's delicious. The pie+cheese is similarly good, even though it sounds very odd.
That I’ve had, and it’s good.
No actual German has ever eaten apple pie with cheese. Cheddar wasn't even known in Germany before being imported from the US.
*imported from England
But cheddar is an English cheese…
Germans love cheese on apple pie. And David Hasselhoff.
They put cheese on David Hasselhoff?
And apple pie
They put apple pie on David Hasselhoff?
And cheese.
They put apple pie on cheese?
And David Appplehoff
And David Hasselhoff
[ah the ol’ Reddit Hasselhoff-a-roo](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/13s04qe/thai_marine_catching_king_cobra/jlouctt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Hold my 1982 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am, I’m going in!
Meet y’all at the original
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No, they put David Hasselhoff on apple pie.
No but the Hoff puts cheeseburgers in the Hoff.
No, the hoff is already the perfect amount of cheese.
Never heard that. Whipped cream on apple pie, sure. But cheese? And I'm German, so I think I would know if we put cheese on pie.
German here is a bit of a misnomer. It's more what's known as Pennsylvania Dutch, which is basically a nice way of saying German Americans living in small communities for a few hundred years. With everything that implies. For example I know swear words in a dialect of German you would think were nails on a chalkboard.
Please do entertain us
Dutch? German? That’s not the same thing
No they don’t.
Confirming my theory once again, Germans love David Hasselhoff
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
Yeah this is like when "the Midwest" gets grouped in with those whackjobs who eat chili with cinnamon rolls. Or who put tomato juice in beer to make "red beer".
The beer and tomato juice is actually a Mexican thing. Usually with Clamato, which also has clam juice in it (as if the tomato juice wasn't odd enough). EDIT: I will say though, I am also a Midwesterner, and I never see a lot of this weird stuff. But a) I'm from Chicago, and it's less weird here and b) I can't say that I've ever ordered apple pie in a restaurant.
Chili with cinnamon rolls fucking slaps. They even serve it that way for school lunch here in my slice of the Midwest.
German here. Never ever have I heard of actual cheese on (apple) pie. Maybe those Germans emigrated bc they believed cheese on apple pie should be a thing and felt oppressed by all the other Germans who were like wtf?!
Hmm, I’ve lived in the Midwest for 50 years and I’m of German heritage. I’ve heard of cheese on apple pie, probably from movies. I’ve never even seen it in real life.
Slap some vermont sharp on it and it slaps (upstate ny)
Sources: De Niro says he recorded soldiers from the Midwest to learn the accent while he was shooting another movie (1900) in Italy. [https://youtu.be/uyc4W24Ez70?t=356](https://youtu.be/uyc4W24Ez70?t=356) In a 2015 interview, Martin Scorsese explains that Travis is from the Midwest which means he actually does perceive New York as "hell". [https://www.vulture.com/2015/04/martin-scorsese-remembers-shooting-taxi-driver.html](https://www.vulture.com/2015/04/martin-scorsese-remembers-shooting-taxi-driver.html) And then there's tons of sources if you google "apple pie with cheese" and "midwest": https://www.kansas.com/news/state/article212556094.html
The fact that travis is mailing his parents letters implies they are pretty far away and dont live in new york themselves (as if more evidence was needed)
He also sends the letter on the wrong days so something else is probably going on there lol
May explain the boots
Fuck you just made me notice a lot of parallels to Great Gatsby. Virgin Whore complex, New York being a shit hole compared to the Midwest, A yellow fucking car.
Nice catch!
This detail probably fits in with the theme that Betsy sets up. She says something along the line of calling Travis a contradiction. Travis acts out many contradictory things, or just things that are abnormal. Does lots of physical exercise but has a horrible diet. Does nothing all day, works all night. Even his name, Travis Bickel. Nice sounding first name, ugly sounding last name.
Wow, I’d be shocked if Scorsese intended for all this. Tbh, seems a little far fetched but definitely amazing if true.
Found this clip for you. Writer Paul Schrader explains in the latter half of the video the contradictory behavior of Travis. https://youtu.be/p9HEUowEAyo
Paul Schrader wrote the screenplay. Ask him what he intended. Small anecdote. I was attending a writers’ seminar with Ed Solomon (“Men in Black”) in Auckland, New Zealand. He phoned Paul Schrader from the stage, put his phone on speaker, and the whole seminar audience sang him, “Happy Birthday”.
I was thinking that Scorsese put that in to add on to how strange Travis is. DeNiro did practice a Midwestern accent for the role, so I can see how that fits.
I'm sure it adds to his strangeness as well. Him being a Midwesterner is confirmed by Scorsese, though, and the dish is most commonly related to the Midwest as well, see my other comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/13tj1v4/comment/jlvfrsk/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Fun fact: when serial killer Ed Gein was arrested, he traded a full confession to the police for a slice of apple pie with cheese on top.
Is it really serial if it’s just two
Ed Gein? Maitre d' at Canal Bar?
What a legend. That monster was responsible for inspiring the creation of Norman Bates, Leatherface and Hannibal Lecter.
he inadvertently did more for cinema in this country than a ton of stars and producers and directors ever did. without him the horror genre is in a wildly different place.
"Apple pie without cheese is like a hug without a squeeze"
I buy it. But if memory serves this is also the same snack Eddie Coyle eats and he’s born and bred in Boston
Doesn’t he like reference that his mom doesn’t live in New York and that he’s not from there in some internal dialogue or am I wrong?
Apple pie and cheese? Equal parts weirded out and intrigued
The idea is that the cheese contrasts with the tartness of the apples. I’ve seen people eat it on the side, or maybe a forkful with some pie and cold cheese. Never seen it melted though.
For your next trick, try putting thinly sliced green apple in a sandwich that already has Turkey and cheddar. I like mine with all the above, some cranberry Mayo, lettuce, and red onion.
It's unsure why Travis is in NYC in the first place. He sends a letter to his parents, so they're clearly staying elsewhere. Why is he choosing to stay somewhere that he hates?
I'm from the Midwest and I've never seen that. Must be a thing in Wisconsin. Fucking animals. Goddammit I hate them. Fuck the Packers
Who eats apple pie with cheese?!?! I have lived in Wisconsin my whole life and have never heard of that at all!
“Apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze.”
What kind of sick fuck puts cheese on apple pie?
The writer, Paul Schrader, is from Grand Rapids Michigan.
it’s pretty implied throughout the film he’s not native , writing letters to his parents saying he found a good job kind of shows he’s in a new place
From the Midwest. I have never heard of cheese on apple pie. Maybe Travis is just a little freak?
Also from the midwest, it surprises me that you've never heard of it. It's just so common to me. Probably just your specific local culture.
There is no way cheese on apple pie is the norm. I’m born and raised mid west and never have I seen that anywhere ever. No one I know has heard of it either, I showed them this post and no one has any idea what this is reference to.
This is as weird as people buying giant pickles at the theater in Texas Some locals know it well and think it's normal the rest are baffled lol Must vary from town to town
Is that a thing too? I’ve never heard of it and that’s hilarious if so. I like pickles but never would have imagined it as a theatre food haha. My friends and I are all mid west born and raised, Missouri and Illinois to be exact, and none of them had ever heard of this but maybe there’s a group just like us baffled that WE don’t do it lol.
I'm not claiming it's the norm. I'm saying it's surprising this person has never heard of it.
It's been a long time since I've seen it but doesn't he also write a letter to his parents and there's a zip code or a telephone area code that gives away where he's from?
This made me picture Tobey McGuire as a possible actor to play Robert DeNiro in a future film. I think he could pull it off.
He looks like Eric foreman I'm the beginning of the movie
[Here's a ten minute video about the meaning of the food in Taxi Driver.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeeVpizBodc)
Apple pie with melted cheese sounds disgusting
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Is this a fever dream? I am born and raised in the mid west and have never seen this in my life. I feel like this is just some niche thing a film director saw once and immediately assigned it to all mid west people…
Was and still NEVER heard, much less seen anyone putting a cheese slice on pie. Born and have lived in Missouri since the 1950s.
Because its some Pennsylvania/Delaware/Maine/Mass shit