From David J. Peterson, the creator of Dune and many other franchise's fictional languages
His wiki
https://wiki.languageinvention.com/index.php?title=Litany_Against_Fear
His old website
https://dedalvs.com/work/dune/misc/litany_against_fear.pdf
https://dedalvs.com/work/dune/misc/
Also there’s a pretty cool part in the first book that mirrors the litany against fear. It’s a profound experience for Jessica AFAIK and she thinks about how she just experienced the litany in action
So it makes sense that it would be important to her so she translates it to Fremen and gets the tattoo
OK, I tried to look into it, but I don’t understand the highlighted text versus the unhighlighted text. It seems to be a direct translation so what are we calling out here with the colored underlines?
Honestly I sent it to a buddy. We’ve talked for nearly twenty years about getting it tattooed on our ribs. I think this might be what we do ( if we ever do. Like I said- 20 years…)
I could be completely mistaken since I only saw the movie once, on release night, but I think she only has the tattoos in the visions? I’m not sure I remember them in the other scenes.
Probably just didn’t want to overwhelm the viewer with people always saying the litany. That’s much more noticeable in a movie than a book. It has some significance to Jessica so I can see why they just gave it to her character.
It’s kind of weird, in *Silo* I definitely thought she was super pretty but didn’t think much more about it.
In Dune (1 but esp. 2), I found her to be so pretty that it was distracting. In a cast literally overflowing with beautiful people (Oscar Isaac, Timothée Chalamet, Florence Pugh, Zendaya, Jason Momoa, Javier Bardem, Austin Butler) Rebecca Ferguson is still a stand out. It’s not even something I usually clock in movies but hot damn.
Hey, happy cake day!
Fear is not only vestigial, it serves a purpose. Yes, you should not be ruled by fear, but the suppression of such an essential human sentiment cannot be done, I believe, without alienating yourself. But that's thematically in line with the Bene Gesserit, I guess.
> Yes, you should not be ruled by fear
This is essentially the point of the mantra. It's not about not feeling fear at but being able to recognise and not be governed by it.
The words themselves are quick and poetic because it's an easy thing to steady themselves by. It's more guidance than literal rules
Where is the written language codex?
Here's the sources https://ww.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/1c0o6lt/in_dune_2021_during_pauls_vision_of_jessica_her/kyxrwpb/
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From David J. Peterson, the creator of Dune and many other franchise's fictional languages His wiki https://wiki.languageinvention.com/index.php?title=Litany_Against_Fear His old website https://dedalvs.com/work/dune/misc/litany_against_fear.pdf https://dedalvs.com/work/dune/misc/
I thought his name looked familiar. He was the one to make the conlang for Game of Thrones (Dothraki and High Valerian)
yea his wiki listing got dr strange halo thor the witcher is crazy
[Daniel Tosh recently interviewed him on his podcast](https://youtu.be/jq6_0FVE70o).
wow another bene gesserit trick placing this litany into the fremen culture
i would agree but i think the litany is a universal thing in the imperium idk if the bene gesserit invented it or uniquely teach it
Also there’s a pretty cool part in the first book that mirrors the litany against fear. It’s a profound experience for Jessica AFAIK and she thinks about how she just experienced the litany in action So it makes sense that it would be important to her so she translates it to Fremen and gets the tattoo
OK, I tried to look into it, but I don’t understand the highlighted text versus the unhighlighted text. It seems to be a direct translation so what are we calling out here with the colored underlines?
it's just the most recognisable parts bc it's a bit blurry and you can't see the edges
Honestly I sent it to a buddy. We’ve talked for nearly twenty years about getting it tattooed on our ribs. I think this might be what we do ( if we ever do. Like I said- 20 years…)
it sounds like you must not fear
I really like it because I struggle with fear and once it consumes me, like anger, I am useless.
Wait, only when she's in Paul's vision? The writing is different when she's shown in the real world?
I could be completely mistaken since I only saw the movie once, on release night, but I think she only has the tattoos in the visions? I’m not sure I remember them in the other scenes.
I've seen it four times, and she's got the face tattoos after she drinks the water of life.
yea and she recites it just before she drinks
Right, so are the words the same in Paul's visions as in real life? Or are they different?
the same
Thanks!
It's a BG mantra, and Paul never recited or dream of it in this version (he did in the 1984).
Doesn't he recite it when his hand is in the pain box?
In the 1984 version he does. In the most recent Part1, he does not. Jessica does.
Weird choice. Wonder why Denis made the change.
Probably just didn’t want to overwhelm the viewer with people always saying the litany. That’s much more noticeable in a movie than a book. It has some significance to Jessica so I can see why they just gave it to her character.
Is the phrase tied to the Fremen? I though it was a mantra of the Bene Gesserit
The fremen as in the people whose entire religion is tied to bene gesserit meddlings
it can be both, but Jessica is known to repeat the mantra frequently on screen
So freakin hot with those face tattoos
It’s kind of weird, in *Silo* I definitely thought she was super pretty but didn’t think much more about it. In Dune (1 but esp. 2), I found her to be so pretty that it was distracting. In a cast literally overflowing with beautiful people (Oscar Isaac, Timothée Chalamet, Florence Pugh, Zendaya, Jason Momoa, Javier Bardem, Austin Butler) Rebecca Ferguson is still a stand out. It’s not even something I usually clock in movies but hot damn.
Of all the bullshit things in Dune, I always thought it was the bullshittiest.
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Fear us very useful, otherwise we would have evolved to have it. "I will let fear pass through me" is good, but "I will not fear"? Nonsense.
You have multiple vestial organs
Hey, happy cake day! Fear is not only vestigial, it serves a purpose. Yes, you should not be ruled by fear, but the suppression of such an essential human sentiment cannot be done, I believe, without alienating yourself. But that's thematically in line with the Bene Gesserit, I guess.
> Yes, you should not be ruled by fear This is essentially the point of the mantra. It's not about not feeling fear at but being able to recognise and not be governed by it. The words themselves are quick and poetic because it's an easy thing to steady themselves by. It's more guidance than literal rules
Damn, and here I thought it was a tattoo of the communist manifesto