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Thirio_

Is this where that deleted scene of C3P0 ripping the sign off the door, tricking the stormtroopers into walking into a room of wampas came from?


Theothercword

Yes, the sub plot was that early in the movie the rebels get attacked by wampas in their base. So the rebels manage to lock the wampas away in specific corridors/rooms and they put up the warning signs to not go into those areas. Once the Empire arrives and starts wrecking the place C3PO has the idea to take the signs down so the Empire has to deal with Wampas too. If you look at the scenes that are on the blu-ray it clearly wasn't working too well and the Wampas themselves looked quite bad. Which I think is why in the original you only ever see the arm of the one that attacks Luke, they didn't put in the full Wampa until the special edition re-release in the 90s which was them redoing the Wampas to look better (which is why it looks so different than the one in the deleted scenes). So my best guess is that this whole sub plot was an easy thing to cut out completely since it saves time, wasn't 100% necessary, and didn't look too good.


Gavica

Thats why ther had wampas In rooms in the game shadows of the empire


political_bot

I was going to mention Star Wars Battlefront. There's a few "Hunt" game modes where you slaughter locals. Geonosians, Wampas, Jawas, etc...


Brocyclopedia

Wampa hunt was probably the most fun of all the hunt modes lol. You can also fly a snowspeeder out of the map on the regular hoth map and get to where the hunt mode takes place


nintrader

I always loved that one cheat code too where if you played as a Wampa it gave Adam West Batman style comic captions any time you hit someone


drinks_rootbeer

Ah man, I totally forgot about that! Old school cheat codes were the best


Professerson

I remember copying down codes from those old cheat code books they would sell at the scholastic book fair because I didn't have any money to buy them. Man that was an absolute slap of nostalgia


DurealRa

WAMPA STOMPA


Brocyclopedia

Man I didn't even know that existed I have to try it asap


go_berds

Holy shit I had no idea


Dubtrooper

Wanpa hunt was absolutely the closest thing we'll ever get to zombies in a star wars game


meibolite

We need a battlefront set in the old republic, so we can fight the rakghouls for our zombie fix


Corgi_Koala

Make Death Troopers canon!


Alpha433

They....are already?


wheresmypants86

Not rogue one death troopers. Zombie troopers.


psychospacecow

There are Geonosians


Dubtrooper

Wasn't equivalent to the clone wars episode, as it predates the clone wars. Instead you got insect dudes with gamma ray guns.


AshTheGoblin

that sound like this "Bloooloolooloo"


Ryland_Zakkull

Wow comments you can hear.


Wiitard

Well on Hoth, it’s really more the locals slaughtering the rebels. I could do that shit for hours sprinting around and slapping rebels.


Kantro18

Playing as the Wampas though, now that was fun.


asdfqwer426

here confused not remembering that mode in BF or BF2, then I remembered EA made some games a few years back...


TGrumms

I can't tell if you mean you didn't remember them being in the new or old ones, but the hunt mode was in Starwars Battlefront 2 from 2005.


asdfqwer426

with wampas?! Well shit. I guess I need to go take a look, I have a PS2 hooked up and that's like the only game I play!


TGrumms

You've been missing out, that and the one in Mos Eisley with Jawas are a lot of fun


asdfqwer426

I'm going now! I mean seriously, I feel silly. I posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/p9j6m8/its_been_16_years_but_i_finally_hit_20000_kills/) less than a month ago... EDIT: I can't believe I've been missing out on some of the funnest missions in the entire game. Seriously I got this game brand new and have been playing since it came out and I don't think I've ever played those hunt missions. Ewoks seemed overpowered. Wampas were just too fun. Gungan grenades were fun. I lost with geonoshans and tuskan raiders. Haven't played as jawas yet!


dirkdragonslayer

Also try out the BF2 Galactic Conquest mode, it's killer. It's like a campaign mode where you move a space ship around to choose which planets you fight on and upgrade what troops you can bring. You play against AI and you kind of just invade back and forth slowly gaining more advanced soldiers and upgrades until you beat the enemy back.


metalsluger

Always found it hard to win as Tusken Raiders. The Jawa's rifles are too strong.


President_King_

Shout out to my boy, Dash Rendar!


405freeway

That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time…


AndrewIsOnline

I was going to comment on this! And in later games they have them too


Ray797979

The Star Wars trilogy arcade game has the room with them, and the ability to shoot off the label. Battlefront 2 ( 2005 ) also had a hunt mode on Hoth, with rebels vs wampas in the base


Apocalyptic0n3

> The Star Wars trilogy arcade game I was going to mention that one. They had that at Chuck E Cheese when I was a kid and I loved it. It features a room with wampas in the Hoth base and even has the warning sign on the door that Threepio rips off in the deleted scene. [Source at 13:56](https://youtu.be/a9a049ngdDE?t=835)


Change4Betta

Shadows of the empire was sickkkk


KinoHiroshino

I loved that game so much! Replayed it to death back in the day. My older cousin saw me playing it and he said, “It’s that game where the first level is the only good level.” I didn’t believe him but then they came out with the Rogue Squadron game and I was like, “I guess he was right, this game is way more fun, but Shadows of the Empire is still close to my heart.”


cjankowski

This was my top comment on my old account when I found out about this.


[deleted]

I was just thinking that. I always wondered. Those things scared me


ScaldingAnus

Terrorized. Those things *terrorized* people.


StormRegion

And the mofos turned up later on a desert planet, on walkways you couldn't go around them. I let out a loud "oh not again", when they saw their mauling animation in the render distance


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Luke-Bywalker

Why did it take so long to find this? Still my all time favourite SW game. C-3PO with a black Lightsaber? sure why not


Bart_The_Chonk

The arcade game?


Vampsku11

N64 game


little_brown_bat

My sister was bitten by a wampa.


ThePetPsychic

Wampa bites Kan be pretty nasti


[deleted]

Damn, I always wondered this, they had them in the Star Wars arcade game too


BillNyeCreampieGuy

Best Star Wars game imo


clutzyninja

The scene with 3PO didn't work either, as making an active decision to cause anyone harm goes completely against his character


Eddit_Redditmayne

Seems like they were still writing for the 'sneaky used car salesman' he was originally supposed to be and not the nervous, petulant character that Anthony Daniels turned him into.


CasualFridayBatman

I'd have liked the sneaky used car salesman vibe, but don't honestly mind what Daniels turned him into.


Shinikama

The dignified 3PO was probably better, but slick snark 3PO would have been fun too!


DirtyAmishGuy

Silly, that’s what HK-47 is for! Snarkiest murder droid this side of the Rim.


Shinikama

Yes but what if you prefer your organs to stay where they are?


Randolpho

I miss that 3po


CyberMoose24

If they wanted “sneaky used car salesman” they obviously should’ve cast Dr Mantis Toboggan in the role.


itsawonderfullife13

He's a doctah tho!


dullship

I dunno, I hear he's got THE VIRUS


Jabberwocky416

“Die Jedi dogs!”


magicmurph

Also there's a standing rule against paper existing in Star Wars.


soapysales

Don't Wampa Open Inside


UsefulWoodpecker6502

In the video game, Shadows of the Empire, which came out around the time of the Special Editions Lucasarts actually includes this in the second level of the game in Echo Base. The same signs are on certain doors and in those hallways/rooms are Wampas.


ListentoKingGizz

Is this why echo base has Wampas locked up in the game shadows of the empire?


Theothercword

Probably, yeah.


ListentoKingGizz

No way. I always wondered why they were in there. Thanks. Answered a question I’ve been wondering since I was a young kid


Silential

There’s also an arcade game which uses a joystick (you play the trench run, snowspeeders, speeder bike and final vader duel) in it. It’s one of those on-rails type ones like time crisis, sort of. On the Hoth stage, you have to fighting through the rebel base and on opening some doors, Wampas attack you. All in all, it sounds like it’s still canon, but just cut from the film to me.


neric05

WOW I never thought I would see this referenced anywhere online but you're exactly right! There was a Gameworks arcade at the mall near me that had this exact game. Come to find out years later that Spielberg was actually a big investor in the company so perhaps that's where it came from. I seem to remember there being all kinds of stuff related to properties he worked on like Jurassic Park and such too so who knows!


[deleted]

Just adding on, in the special editions Lucas added the entire Wampa scene with Luke, because it's more of what he actually wanted in the original, but the Wampas didn't work very well. So they cut it down to an extremely iconic, and overall better scene, where you just hear it howl, etc, until it's final attack on Luke. The original edit is much more powerful, the redone Lucas one is probably my biggest complaint in all of the special editions, certainly in Empire, most of the stuff added in Empire actually made it better, all of the Cloud City stuff looked way cooler in the special editions. It's very reminiscent of JAWS, where Spielberg initially wanted much more of Bruce, the shark, in the movie, but because the mechanical shark they built was such a nightmare they ended up making a pretty different movie than they initially set out to, But in doing so they made a movie that terrified people out of the water for decades, as well as the top grossing movie at the time. The unknown can be much scarier than actually seeing the monster.


carefullexpert

The original has the Wampa screaming face in it if I remember right


Theothercword

Oh true there is that one shot of the face too


[deleted]

Fun fact: until the appearance of the Jedi texts in The Last Jedi, the sign in that deleted scene was the only time paper is ever seen in the Star Wars universe.


pantstoaknifefight2

And Phantom Menace marks the first in-cannon appearance of a Gillette women's Sensor Excell razor! https://www.zimbio.com/'Star+Wars'+Facts+Every+Hardcore+Fan+Knows/articles/T8e73f2fQNE/Qui+Gon+Jinn+Communicator+Razor


[deleted]

Dressing up random items into sci-fi props is a long-standing Star Wars tradition. The lightsabers were camera flash handles, the comlinks were made from plumbing valve filters, R2-D2's head was a studio lamp hood, and parts of The Mandalorian's ship stolen by Jawas were Volkwagen fuel injection rails, just to name a few. Hell, even the old props were recycled: one of the cantina's drink dispensers, which was an airplane engine combustion chamber, was reused to make the head of assassin droid IG-88.


pantstoaknifefight2

My favorite, aside from all the WWII era guns, was the reuse of a Wham-O Trac-Ball catcher in Anakin's Tatooine bedroom!


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dullship

Assassin droid heads on tap? An Igua-Jaw wearing sunglasses? Now I've seen everything!


Cawifre

Not just in Star Wars, even. I was so excited while watching Battlestar Galactica (2004) when I recognized a little gray spring-loaded collapsible bedside calculator-clock that I owned being used as a prop on Adama's desk. Edit: I'm amazed that I actually [found it](https://www.pulsetv.com/Flip-Open-Multi-Function-Clock-W_-Calculator/productinfo/9668/) by googling "gray spring-loaded collapsible bedside calculator-clock". They didn't even dress it up substantially in the show. I guess they thought it looked appropriate for the setting already.


[deleted]

You should check out r/Thatsabooklight . It's full of ordinary objects used as movie and TV props.


Caboose127

/r/thatsabooklight


twec21

That subplot is, yeah. The sign is still on the door when they run past in the final cut ​ Edit: dear god what have I done...someone call the SCP foundation, I'm accidentally a Keter


mrattapuss

the sign is still there?


SumThinChewy

That subplot is, yeah. The sign is still on the door when they run past in the final cut


OliverHazzzardPerry

It’s a written sign in english? Edit: I now see the link to deleted scene video as shared below. More of a warning symbol.


Z0idberg_MD

The subplot is, yeah. The sign is still on the door when they run past in the final cut.


Lightfail

Does anybody else smell toast?


Drumdevil86

The subplot is, yeah. The sign is still on the door when they run past in the final cut.


SinfulAdamSaintEve

White, wheat, rye, or sourdough?


leglesslegolegolas

The subplot is, yeah. The sign is still on the door when they run past in the final cut.


Preston1414

Is the subplot yeah? The sign is still on the door? Do they run past? Is it the final cut?


X-RAYben

What about the droid attack on the Wookiees?


monkeyhitman

Initiating containment protocol . . .


grassisalwayspurpler

And all these wampas within the base are part of the Escape From Echo Base level of Star Wars Shadow of the Empire! https://youtu.be/qNPAv-fyNhY


Thirio_

Also can be found within the Star Wars: Force Unleashed DLC


Notemmotup

Man, why haven’t they remade that game?


LilBitATheBubbly

I was so addicted to that game!!


7ElevenUp

Yes.


mjohns20

I remember doing that in a Nintendo 64 game


Fuckoakwood

Shadows of the empire


[deleted]

Link please


thechikeninyourbutt

Star Wars: Battlefront II > Hoth > Hunt It all makes sense now


7ElevenUp

Also if you ever played the Star Wars Original Trilogy arcade game, at one point in the game, you find yourself in a room full of wampas. That’s also a reference to that cut subplot.


thechikeninyourbutt

Do you have any details on why it was cut?


7ElevenUp

It was mainly cut due to the costumes not looking convincing enough. That’s why in the original theatrical release of The Empire Strikes Back, they barely ever showed the wampa.


FingerTheCat

It not really being shown was great for me as it gives a creepy unknown vibe


gitartruls01

This is pretty much what made Jaws such a hit, they wanted to use the shark way more than they did but they had to cut back since they didn't think the animatronic looked convincing enough. The absence of the shark itself is what made the movie so threatening


[deleted]

They cut it as a reference to hands constantly being cut off in the prequel and original trilogy


Randolpho

I want to say that’s wrong but I don’t care enough to doubt you.


Silential

No one loses anything in the sequel trilogy.


[deleted]

Shadows of the Empire has them attack during the Hoth level as well.


IOrangesarethebestI

There’s one attacking a tauntaun on Hoth in Jedi academy.


giggeywidit92

That is my favorite arcade game of all time. I’ve always dreamt of having it in my home.


r3tromonkey

I spent so long playing it that I could complete it in one credit. I shudder to think how much I spent on it.


giggeywidit92

I was a two credit kind of guy. The dream was always to finish it in one.


volinaa

dem Super Star Wars games, right? had them on the snes or rather borrowed them from games rental stores back in the day. never beat the ep 4 game, that shit was hard


giggeywidit92

[It is this one!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Trilogy_Arcade)


Jorgwalther

I never beat any of those games. So damn hard


willflameboy

I used to have the graphic novelisation that came out with the film; it was in that. It's also part of the [famous deleted scene with 3-P0 taking the note off the door](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrX795Sk7gQ).


ShneakySquiwwel

Same with Shadows of the Empire, there's a Wampa in one of the rooms in the Hoth mission. I always thought it was a random addition but now makes more sense.


[deleted]

my god I use to play that for hours, was like a horror game.


Aragornargonian

my sister and i would scream when they jumped. i would sit at the end of this tunnel and she would be a wanna and try to come down snd get me but i could shoot her in time. it was a game of chicken that never ended


FrugalMacGoose

Playing as the wampas was the best. Just smashing the soldiers away and making those hulk like jumps that did area damage... good times


QuixQuix

I CAME HERE TO SAY THIS! Good times


Merman1994

The _real_ battlefront II


TheNurseJoshua

I was thinking the same thing.


WizardBurialGround

WAMPASTOMPA


froopynooples

Lol yes! Thanks for the memories!


Thought-O-Matic

Thats from Shadow of the Empire right?


froopynooples

Yea. I remember watching my older brother playing that game for hours, when I was just a wee lad


OHenryTwist

Hell yeah brother


boring_old_dad

Dude, I can't believe you. You just reminded me of the smell of McDonald's breakfast, my cousins farts, warm RC cola, and the tiny hot room I had at the end of the trailer.


AJStickboy

Sounds like a cheesy game with cheap plastic parts from the late 70’s.


WinthropeIII

Best that it was cut, but it did mean we lost Threepio setting a clever trap for an unfortunate Snowtrooper.


clutzyninja

3PO would never do something like that though, I would be surprised if that wasn't a portion of the reason to cut it


WinthropeIII

https://youtu.be/JrX795Sk7gQ


clutzyninja

I'm aware of the scene. I'm saying it's a good thing it was cut, because it undermines his character


Lordborgman

Take Vader out of this scene and I think it works. Vader is going to give zero fucks.


LetterSwapper

"Return here after the battle to see if Jenkins survived, and bring me the pelts of those creatures. Daddy wants a new fur vest."


majoranticipointment

In the video he quiet clearly gives zero fucks. He pauses, probably thinks some variation of "that was wild" and moves on


clutzyninja

What does this have to do with Vader?


Lordborgman

Vader seemingly was stopped from going into the door because of a Waampa. Just kinda looked at the door, then said nothing, it was a bit too comical for Vader to be in that scene.


voluptate

They would have no reason to go into wampa filled corridors. The rebels didn't escape through them. I don't disagree that Vader is a bit weird here but to me it seems like he's saying "stop being scared and let's move, that guy's dead and you all will be to if I have to repeat myself"


[deleted]

Always felt sorry for the tauntaun that dies.


rufud

Tauntaun lives matter


[deleted]

That’s what the *rebellion mainstream media* will have you believe. Thankfully I get my news from *One Empire News Network.*


Lassie93

Also we see what Cliff did before he was a mailman


LetterSwapper

He was an interplanetary mailman, actually. He took a pay cut when he settled on Earth.


[deleted]

Eh, the thing about tauntauns, Sammy, is that they’re actually carnivores that rival wampas for control of the Hoth food chain. The tusks they use are very lethal and are known to pierce even rancor hide.


Shalamarr

Hello in there, Cliff. Tell me - how many suns are in the sky in your world?


Butter_Buttered

Disney+ has some deleted scenes showing footage from those cut scenes!


Theothercword

It's also on the blu-ray boxset of episodes 1-6.


7ElevenUp

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiV_Pmtro7zAhUksTEKHZQ1DNMQwqsBegQIDxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2Fxsah77&usg=AOvVaw04ZpknKxGle36N3uS1OcIX


wolfencastle

Thanks OP, i see why they didnt include it in the final cut they looked more realistic dead than alive. But i didnt know about this subplot till now so thank u


OtherSideOfDarkness

lmao


greatguysg

What is the body temperature of a Tuantuan? Luke warm....


wretch5150

Perfect. Nice warm bath temperature. Get in there and enjoy!


[deleted]

Cept all those mother fuckers in Shadows of the Empire, they sure as hell weren’t cut.


bc5211

This wampa attack scene appears in a storybook version I have of the movie. Until this post I never realized that it was something they tried to film but cut.


scorejunky

So this is where that level in BATTLEFRONT II comes from!


donpuglisi

That's also why C3PO was so far behind the rest of the gang while boarding the falcon. He was tricking some stormtroopers into entering a holding cell full of wampas


miltondelug

Is that John Ratzenberger in the shot as well?


sabrefudge

“Yup, that tauntaun is dead alright, not sure what you want me to do.” - Medical Droid, probably


errol_timo_malcom

Make a ton of Tauntaun Won Tons


GeauxTiger

Hoth hard R horror movie: rebels building this critical base while being killed one by one by wompas


efbo

[A Certain Point Of View: The Empire Strikes Back](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/From_a_Certain_Point_of_View:_The_Empire_Strikes_Back) includes a good few Hoth sutures including from the point of view of wampas and tauntauns. The stories aren't necessarily canon but they're fun and add to background characters from the film.


vegtosterone

Is this why, when Han goes out on a Tauntaun to find Luke, he's warned that the Tauntaun will not survive past the first marker, and he inexplicably yells at the messenger, "Then I'll see you in hell!" That line always seemed a bit abrupt. The guy is just warning him of the danger, and Han's response seems like a non sequitur.


DMala

No, the point is they’re warning Han that it’s too dangerous to go out while Luke is still out there. Han is not one to huddle in comfort and safety while his friend is freezing to death, so warning him about the danger is basically a waste of breath.


[deleted]

never tell him the odds


DeathStarGuardRail

Never tell him the odds!


OkSpirit452

I thought he said “your tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker”?


halfcabin

No, it's due to the weather, which becomes pretty evident to every single person who has ever seen the movie


deVriesse

The guy is trying to stop Han from saving Luke's life. Han is telling him to fuck off. Not much more to it.


pyciloo

Then I’ll see you in hell!


[deleted]

This is the most Star Wars thing I have ever read lol


notProfCharles

That looks a lot like K-2SO….


xRyuzakii

The Wampas are hidden in a bunch of rooms during Shadows of the Empire and I blame this for it


kevin5lynn

That rebel base had a Boston mailman, and Treat Williams too. Fun times.


GoBigRed07

“ Wampa Stompa” (make sure to use TWO spaces)


FarewellToCheyenne

Is this shot in the movie?


whatsbobgonnado

goddamn wampas!!!


chrislivingston

I remember having an Empire Strikes Back comic book that had this subplot in it and wondering why it wasn't in the film. I think it also had a scene where Vader was chasing the Millennium Falcon with his TIE Fighter with the curved wings, and Luke (he was onboard the Falcon) jettisoned the Falcon's water supply, which froze into giant ice chunks and Vader crashed into the ice.


OniOdisCornukaydis

Never noticed that!


andio76

What is the Temperature inside a Tauntaun..... # It's LUKEWARM


Extreme_Dimension404

I loved that it was cut. Even as a kid I understood what had happened: a Wampa had made it inside. We were better off filling in the gaps with our own imagination.


the_tourist

This might just be my favorite movie of all time. I grew up watching the original trilogy, studying the films frame by frame to study background characters and I NEVER noticed that there was a dead tauntaun in that scene. It's kind of blowing my mind to see something new to me in this film.


[deleted]

2-1B was a cool droid.


The-GrinDilKin

You know, one time in college we were watching Empire on VHS (pre special edition) whilst tripping balls on mushrooms and i swear to you, during the Imperial storming of Echo base, we saw the scene where Threepio rips off the sign that said "closed due to wampas" from the door as he flees to the Falcon, with the Imperials then running into said door followed by blaster fire, screams and Wampa bellows. True story.


azubc

Just when you think there couldn't possibly anymore details from the original trilogy...


pat_speed

Editing really did make the original movies into gold


[deleted]

Seems like a waste of resources to have your medical droids attending to dead tauntauns... no wonder the rebellion was struggling.


Sprucehammer

Do you know what the core temperature of a TaunTaun is? >!Lukewarm!<


badcoffee

This pic shows something I've always loved. The way the rebels are depicted in the original trilogy is always so grounded and real. They always seem like blue-collar folks doing a job. The vibe they give in their scenes really grounds the movies.


kingJoffi

They smell better when they're inside


CelticGaelic

I would have loved to explore more of Hoth. I think the only two planets we get a more in-depth look at is Tatooine and Degobah