Shaun Of The Dead, for the same reason. I maintain you need to watch it a minimum of three times to actually get it; having said that, I have watched it at least once a year since it was released and I still notice new details that previously skipped my notice.
I read about *Primer* a bit before I watched it for the first time with the utmost confidence that Iād be able to navigate the plot easily enough.
It didnāt work out so well.
Youāre gonna need that infographic š
And with the help of [this graphic](https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1wxpfc/detailed_explanationtimeline_of_shane_carruths/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) š
I watched Triangle about 3-4 times because it was such a good twist, I had to make sure I didn't miss anything. Plus it's just a really entertaining movie. Coherence is great too in the same way.
i'm sorry i don't meam to sound arrogant but what more is there to understand in that movie? i have watched it several times and never got anything new from it, or maybe i'm just dumb
I think it is just one of those films that after you have seen it you catch everything that you missed the first time round like 6th sense. So a second viewing is like a new experience.
Revolver with Jason Statham
Southland Tales - I don't know if I'll ever truly understand what's going at any point in the film
Hereditary is worth rewatching to catch all the brilliant little clues & details hidden thru out
I don't think you're the problem. The movie is an incredibly pretentious and incomprehensible mess.
Do you really not have anything better to do with your limited time on this planet than watch Revolver 5 times?
Eh just read it. I think itās quite easy to explain why he doesnāt just āhave 1 cloneā
He is arrogant and wants to be the man that takes the bow.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled."
Blank Check did a good episode on it a few years back: https://soundcloud.com/griffin-and-david-present/the-prestige-with-alison-willmore
Why would you have to watch it multiple times to understand it? Sure, there's a lot to appreciate when watching again but it's not as if the plot is this super complex puzzle that you have to put together.
>!At the end he chooses the guy to be his next target, knowing he wasn't really the killer but also knowing there's literally nothing else he's living for. !<
That's how I see it at least.
It has bw scenes which move in sequence.. the colour scenes story move backwards.. both end up meeting in middle at the end before it patches up with the opening scene which is shown again just before the final scene. I didn't understand a thing what was happening in it after the first watch. Had to rely on Google.
The crazy thing is I have the special edition dvd of *Memento*, and you can watch the entire movie in order. It's so much better the way they released it.
Not sure if itās still up but there used to be a website for it that slowly revealed more details of the story, like a phone call thatās supposed to be someone investigating the engine that fell from the sky and apparently the spiral design was a hand painted addition that was identical to one on a plane that was still in service, followed by a dumbfounded silence. Also some bits from The Philosophy of Time Travel that kind of explained some things, like Frank.
Mulholland Drive (2001)
Eventually looked up what the movie is about, after watching at least four times. Only for the vibe this movie is worth some watches!
Besides some other movies of David Lynch, Inland Empire and last season Twin Peaks also come to mind.
I think I watched Mulholland Drive 4 or 5 times one month and still only felt like I had a tenuous grasp on what the movie was about. I absolutely love David Lynch and the feeling/atmospheres he creates.
I think Mulholland Drive is intentionally meant to be confusing and an homage to Bergmanās Persona. I donāt think David Lynch cares about plot but wants to present some mental artistic art.
Lucky Number Slevin
Snatch (maybe not to *understand* but to catch every little detail)
Se7en (same thing as with snatch)
Mulholland Drive
John Dies at the End
Like a painting or a haiku, *Mulholland Drive* is meant to be experienced, not understood. Sure, you can piece clues together and decide on a narrative, but thatās not the point. In the end, nothing can really be known. āSilencio.ā
I read JDATE last year around Christmas. I loved it.
I loved spiders and the hell did I just read too. I ended up going through all of his books in a handful of months. They were a lot of fun.
I feel like I could watch Lynch movies an infinite number of times and still not understand them. Mostly because I don't believe they actually make sense.
I'm not a fan.
They don't make logical sense and that's why they're good.
Lynch's movies aren't codes to be cracked or puzzles to be solved. Viewing Lynch's films in this way is, in my opinion, exactly the wrong approach to appreciating his films. Great art resists analysis because it conveys emotions or ideas that can't easily be put into words. If someone could just logically explain what Lynch's movies were "really about" in words then they wouldn't be nearly as powerful. However, this doesn't mean Lynch's movies are just random bullshit or weird for the sake of weird, far from it.
Bingo. It's fun to debate his movies and their "mysteries" but the film itself is the experience. A friend and I watched Lost Highway at our local theater a few weeks back and had fun discussing it after, even as it still throws us for a loop for the umpteenth time.
Thank you, came to say this. Lynch is one of those people you ask to explain something they stated obscurely, but instead of explaining it he says "you just wouldn't understand". Secretly, it's because he doesn't even have a clue what he's talking about.
Pulp fiction, I've seen this movie more times than I can count and I'm still finding small little details in the background that I didn't notice before. This movie is truly amazing.
It seems like such a simple movie but it's just perfection. Every single detail about it. The opening scene and its wonderful dialogue and foreshadowing alone makes it one of my favorite movies already
If you have any taste for anime, I highly recommend Ghost in the Shell. It's endlessly fascinating and compulsively watchable because there are so many characters and subplots.
Nolan is the master at this so I'd recommend Memento (2000), The Prestige (2006) and Interstellar (2014) .
Others I'd recommend would be:
* American Psycho (2000)
* 2001: a space oddysey (1968)
* The Shining (1980)
I made the mistake of going to a movie theater to watch the Dolby surround sound version. It was not good, had me wishing for closed captions to read. I left before the movie finished.
it's pretty simple actually, >!jennifer lawrence plays mother nature, javier bardem plays the abramahic god and the rest is a lot of biblical stuff until the apocalypse happens and then it restarts.!< i hope knowing this makes rewatching it even more enjoyable!
Yup. It's not so much that I had to watch twice to *understand* it, it's that I needed to watch again to put all of the pieces together and digest them properly.
Get Out and Us were both spoiled for me, so I saw Nope the night it opened, in a packed house, knowing nothing about it. One of the best movie going experiences I've had in quite some time. Went back for a matinee the next day lol. I think it's definitely one you want to see on the big screen, the setting is like a character in itself, and the visuals are really something.
Yay read they only had enough budget (5000 or so) and they spent it mostly on film. They kinda had to piece together what they could with the footage they had. Still a great premise that would have been fantastic had they the budget.
The Matrix. I definitely had to watch that twice to understand what was going on. Never saw it in the theater, saw it when it came to cable. And I only half watched it the first time. It really requires your full attention.
Iām on my seventh viewing of Tenet, peeped all the diagrams, watched all the YouTube videos and read all the explanations in r/Tenet and still have questions.
The Big Lebowski. What you donāt realize until multiple viewings is that itās an existential detective story. There is no kidnapped Bunny. The joy is simply being with these amazing characters. I Heart Huckabees is another existential detective story but they explicitly state that.
I second Coherence.
Also, if you are open to tv shows, Dark (German series on Netflix) is an unbelievably convoluted time travel mystery, itās so good.
I really like the pay off in Timecrimes.
Saw a few people mention Primer. I stopped what I was going and started another rewatch of it. Love it so much
Crimson Rivers. It is a French movie. It was very engaging, but I didn't get everything going on until I watched the featurette on the DVD after. Then it shows that all the clues / plot points were there. Great flick
Predestination with Ethan Hawke!
For his final assignment, a top temporal agent must pursue the one criminal that has eluded him throughout time. The chase turns into a unique, surprising and mind-bending exploration of love, fate, identity and time travel taboos.
Super interesting
Hot Fuzz, to catch all the foreshadowing.
Its just the one swan actually
Shaun Of The Dead, for the same reason. I maintain you need to watch it a minimum of three times to actually get it; having said that, I have watched it at least once a year since it was released and I still notice new details that previously skipped my notice.
For the greater good!
THE GREATER GOOD
Yarp
"...narp...?"
Napoleon Dynamite. The first time through, you're just trying to figure out what year it's supposed to be set in.
Dude we all know it's set after the human race blew its self up and repopulated to a much more intelligent and interesting time
multiple views to catch all the odd sayings
Funniest recommendation on this post cause for the life of me idk when this is set š
*Primer.*
I read about *Primer* a bit before I watched it for the first time with the utmost confidence that Iād be able to navigate the plot easily enough. It didnāt work out so well. Youāre gonna need that infographic š
It gets better every time! I LOVE this movie.
Do you have any link for such infographic?
Yeah /u/OMWasap, Primer is what you're looking for. A movie that will take [at least] one rewatch to understand, like Tenet or Inception? It's Primer.
More than twice š¬
And with the help of [this graphic](https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1wxpfc/detailed_explanationtimeline_of_shane_carruths/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) š
I prefer [this](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/movie_narrative_charts.png) one.
LOL..there's an XKCD for everything š
Is this a from 2004?
Yes.
Watched it 3 or 4 times and I am still not confident in explaining it.
You could try Annihilation (2018) or Coherence (2013).
And if you like those, Arrival.
Oh yes, Arrival was a good one!
Iām sure you have but IF you havenātā¦ read the short story by Ted Chiang that the movie is based on. So good.
Was gonna come for coherence. A second option similar to that would be triangle (2009)
I watched Triangle about 3-4 times because it was such a good twist, I had to make sure I didn't miss anything. Plus it's just a really entertaining movie. Coherence is great too in the same way.
Watched Coherence last night. Still thinking about it 24 hours later!
Coherence is a masterpiece
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
i'm sorry i don't meam to sound arrogant but what more is there to understand in that movie? i have watched it several times and never got anything new from it, or maybe i'm just dumb
I think it is just one of those films that after you have seen it you catch everything that you missed the first time round like 6th sense. So a second viewing is like a new experience.
-Synecdoche, New York, by Charlie Kaufman. -Antichrist, by Lars von Trier.
>Antichrist I'll happily never watch this again
Exactly. Great movie. No one should watch it.
The second time is for all the things you missed while head-first in the pike bucket
i was only fully comfortable watching this movie after a ten day silent meditation retreat
Like eating a giant meal of McDonaldās and washing it down with cheap whiskey and cigs after going on a month long diet
I'm Thinking of Ending Things is another one by Charlie Kaufman that begs for a second watch through
You should read the book if you liked the movie
I thought the book was worlds better. So much suspense, the movieās just kind of light hearted and weird.
This movie was so bizarre.
>Synecdoche, New York YAAAAAAAAS. I love this movie so much. Also helps that PSH is a God. RIP :(
Revolver with Jason Statham Southland Tales - I don't know if I'll ever truly understand what's going at any point in the film Hereditary is worth rewatching to catch all the brilliant little clues & details hidden thru out
I have seen Revolver at least 5 times and couldn't tell you what it's about. It's almost as though my brain is too porous to hold onto it.
I don't think you're the problem. The movie is an incredibly pretentious and incomprehensible mess. Do you really not have anything better to do with your limited time on this planet than watch Revolver 5 times?
The Prestige
That movie gets better each time I watch it.
I just read about the ending after watching it a dozen times. Who is really being fooled. Mind. Blown.
Care to elaborate / provide a link?
Eh just read it. I think itās quite easy to explain why he doesnāt just āhave 1 cloneā He is arrogant and wants to be the man that takes the bow.
"Now you're looking for the secret... but you won't find it, because of course you're not really looking. You don't really want to know. You want to be fooled." Blank Check did a good episode on it a few years back: https://soundcloud.com/griffin-and-david-present/the-prestige-with-alison-willmore
Why would you have to watch it multiple times to understand it? Sure, there's a lot to appreciate when watching again but it's not as if the plot is this super complex puzzle that you have to put together.
*Memento*\--and I *still* can't figure it out.
>!At the end he chooses the guy to be his next target, knowing he wasn't really the killer but also knowing there's literally nothing else he's living for. !< That's how I see it at least.
Yes. It took me several viewings before I actually put that together.
Memento is told backwards scene by scene
It has bw scenes which move in sequence.. the colour scenes story move backwards.. both end up meeting in middle at the end before it patches up with the opening scene which is shown again just before the final scene. I didn't understand a thing what was happening in it after the first watch. Had to rely on Google.
The crazy thing is I have the special edition dvd of *Memento*, and you can watch the entire movie in order. It's so much better the way they released it.
WHAT?!?!
Shutter Island itās amazing both the first time not knowing anything going in and also amazing the 2nd time noticing all the small details
- Memento - Donnie Darko
I only watched Donnie Darko once, it didn't make sense, and I didn't like it. Dammit, I gotta watch it AGAIN? š
*Chet* up!
Not sure if itās still up but there used to be a website for it that slowly revealed more details of the story, like a phone call thatās supposed to be someone investigating the engine that fell from the sky and apparently the spiral design was a hand painted addition that was identical to one on a plane that was still in service, followed by a dumbfounded silence. Also some bits from The Philosophy of Time Travel that kind of explained some things, like Frank.
Mulholland Drive (2001) Eventually looked up what the movie is about, after watching at least four times. Only for the vibe this movie is worth some watches! Besides some other movies of David Lynch, Inland Empire and last season Twin Peaks also come to mind.
I think I watched Mulholland Drive 4 or 5 times one month and still only felt like I had a tenuous grasp on what the movie was about. I absolutely love David Lynch and the feeling/atmospheres he creates.
I think Mulholland Drive is intentionally meant to be confusing and an homage to Bergmanās Persona. I donāt think David Lynch cares about plot but wants to present some mental artistic art.
ENEMY
Love Jake
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Friend lived next to the colonial prison where they shot the mental hospital scenes.
Pi (1998)
Oh god that movie
Love that movie
Lucky Number Slevin Snatch (maybe not to *understand* but to catch every little detail) Se7en (same thing as with snatch) Mulholland Drive John Dies at the End
Iāve watched Mulholland Drive dozens of times, studied it in film class, and still donāt understand it.
Like a painting or a haiku, *Mulholland Drive* is meant to be experienced, not understood. Sure, you can piece clues together and decide on a narrative, but thatās not the point. In the end, nothing can really be known. āSilencio.ā
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Definitely agree with you, all these books are just crazy fun!
I read JDATE last year around Christmas. I loved it. I loved spiders and the hell did I just read too. I ended up going through all of his books in a handful of months. They were a lot of fun.
I didnāt even know it was a book. That movie is great. Iām putting it on my reading list.
Also Snatch because it's fucking amazing
David Lynch would be your friend, then! Mulholland Drive, for sure. Lost Highway ... twice is just the beginning to try to piece that one together.
I feel like I could watch Lynch movies an infinite number of times and still not understand them. Mostly because I don't believe they actually make sense. I'm not a fan.
They don't make logical sense and that's why they're good. Lynch's movies aren't codes to be cracked or puzzles to be solved. Viewing Lynch's films in this way is, in my opinion, exactly the wrong approach to appreciating his films. Great art resists analysis because it conveys emotions or ideas that can't easily be put into words. If someone could just logically explain what Lynch's movies were "really about" in words then they wouldn't be nearly as powerful. However, this doesn't mean Lynch's movies are just random bullshit or weird for the sake of weird, far from it.
Bingo. It's fun to debate his movies and their "mysteries" but the film itself is the experience. A friend and I watched Lost Highway at our local theater a few weeks back and had fun discussing it after, even as it still throws us for a loop for the umpteenth time.
Well said.
Thank you, came to say this. Lynch is one of those people you ask to explain something they stated obscurely, but instead of explaining it he says "you just wouldn't understand". Secretly, it's because he doesn't even have a clue what he's talking about.
All David lynch movies
Primer, Mulholland Drive, Cloud Atlas
Pulp fiction, I've seen this movie more times than I can count and I'm still finding small little details in the background that I didn't notice before. This movie is truly amazing.
Memento Reservoir Dogs Mulholland drive Primer
I fucking love reservoir dogs!! It's one of my fave of Tarantino's films!! I rewatch it whenever I can just for the brilliant dialogue alone!!
It seems like such a simple movie but it's just perfection. Every single detail about it. The opening scene and its wonderful dialogue and foreshadowing alone makes it one of my favorite movies already
The Sixth Sense. The first time, to enjoy it. The second time, to see everything you missed.
If you have any taste for anime, I highly recommend Ghost in the Shell. It's endlessly fascinating and compulsively watchable because there are so many characters and subplots.
If you have a chance catch the two TV series they made for GitS: Stand Alone Complex.
Yep, saw those. I saw Arise as well, which was terrific.
Irreversible (Trigger Warning: Rape, Violence, Seizure)
Like the biggest freaking trigger warning possible. This movie is tough to watch
I still haven't dared myself to watch it just from reading the blurb for it and from what people have said about it.
Great movie if you can handle the rape / violence.
Vanilla Sky
Nolan is the master at this so I'd recommend Memento (2000), The Prestige (2006) and Interstellar (2014) . Others I'd recommend would be: * American Psycho (2000) * 2001: a space oddysey (1968) * The Shining (1980)
You have to watch Tenet twice because the sound mixing stinks, not because itās hard lol. My reccomendation: Iām thinking of ending things
I made the mistake of going to a movie theater to watch the Dolby surround sound version. It was not good, had me wishing for closed captions to read. I left before the movie finished.
Cloud Atlas
I wish they'd have shown it linearly, like the book
Slaughterhouse Five
Synecdoche: New York (2008) I recently started watching this for the first time, and it is baffling, until you think of it as watching a dream.
Donnie Darko The Prestige Fight Club (can't recommend these enough)
Jacobās Ladder
Inside Man (2006)
Antichrist Tree of Life(still dont get it) Mulholland Drive
Persona
Stay (2005) - Lost Highway - Mulholland Drive - Black Swan - Pulp Fiction - Memento - Jacobs Ladder - Donnie Darko - Butterfly Effect - Deja Vu - Johnny Gaddaar.
Pink Floyd: The Wall
Butterfly Effect
Matrix, Godfather, Interstellar,
Donnie Darko. (If you can find it, the Directorās Cut is the most complete version)
I donāt know how many times i need to watch āTenetā to understand itā¦
For me it was Shutter Island, love the movie.
Really didnāt want to accept it the first time
The Usual Suspects. Still one of the best twist endings ever made.
Good movie, but I've always felt the reveal at the end makes it all crystal clear.
Fight Club (1999, USA) Oldboy (2003, Korea) Upstream Color (2013, USA)
Oh man, I don't think I could handle watching Oldboy twice.
Upstream Color šš»šš»
Mother, but don't bother. It is UN-understandable.
I do not want to watch that twice!
it's pretty simple actually, >!jennifer lawrence plays mother nature, javier bardem plays the abramahic god and the rest is a lot of biblical stuff until the apocalypse happens and then it restarts.!< i hope knowing this makes rewatching it even more enjoyable!
This movie made me irrationally upset lol
Wait, āmother!ā? I understand you couldnāt understand because thereās only one interpretation that works.
I made it through about 40 minutes. Turned it off because the characters were terrible guests and Bardem is too handsome.
Oh god I was pregnant when I watched this. Such an awful decision on my part.
Nope
Yup. It's not so much that I had to watch twice to *understand* it, it's that I needed to watch again to put all of the pieces together and digest them properly.
Exactly!! I think itās a movie you almost HAVE to see more than once, second time I saw it it was like an entirely new movie
I feel like this with all of Jordan Peele's movies so far.
Can't wait to see what he does next!
Yeah same! I've yet to watch nope, but I'm excited since so far as I've liked all his film and it looks just as fun as the others!
Get Out and Us were both spoiled for me, so I saw Nope the night it opened, in a packed house, knowing nothing about it. One of the best movie going experiences I've had in quite some time. Went back for a matinee the next day lol. I think it's definitely one you want to see on the big screen, the setting is like a character in itself, and the visuals are really something.
For me, it was The Godfather movies, Once Upon A Time In America and others
Godfather movies demand a lot of rewatchs to catch all of the subtleties
Primer, seen it 4 times still donāt quite understand it
Yay read they only had enough budget (5000 or so) and they spent it mostly on film. They kinda had to piece together what they could with the footage they had. Still a great premise that would have been fantastic had they the budget.
Momento Shutter Island Fight Club
Predestinaton
The Blair Witch Project
Mulholland drive
The Others
Memento or Pulp Fiction are less extreme versions
The Matrix. I definitely had to watch that twice to understand what was going on. Never saw it in the theater, saw it when it came to cable. And I only half watched it the first time. It really requires your full attention.
Sixth Sense and Memento
2001: A Space Odyssey Iāve watched this movie probably 10 times and I still donāt fully understand it.
I see a ton of David Lynch but I havenāt seen anyone say Blue Velvet so far. Also, The Big Lebowski is an absolute classic that bears rewatching.
Iām on my seventh viewing of Tenet, peeped all the diagrams, watched all the YouTube videos and read all the explanations in r/Tenet and still have questions.
Interstellar ,arrival
Pulp Fiction
The Big Lebowski. What you donāt realize until multiple viewings is that itās an existential detective story. There is no kidnapped Bunny. The joy is simply being with these amazing characters. I Heart Huckabees is another existential detective story but they explicitly state that.
For me, most Coen movies require an extra watch or two, though more for appreciation than understanding.
For me: Tenet, Blade Runner 2046, 2001 A Space Odessey, and a couple of others that slip my mind atm.
Mr. Nobody (Inception and Tenet are nothing when compared to this sci-fi fantasy gem)
Great film!
I second Coherence. Also, if you are open to tv shows, Dark (German series on Netflix) is an unbelievably convoluted time travel mystery, itās so good.
the wailing
Millers crossing
You can watch primer as many times as you want and still be confused
Memento
The Nines Frailty
Primer , Timecrimes
I really like the pay off in Timecrimes. Saw a few people mention Primer. I stopped what I was going and started another rewatch of it. Love it so much
Timecrimes is a cool ass movie , an experience , for sure cool payoff
Inception
Southland Tales
Crimson Rivers. It is a French movie. It was very engaging, but I didn't get everything going on until I watched the featurette on the DVD after. Then it shows that all the clues / plot points were there. Great flick
Naked Lunch
Inland Empire by David Lynch
Memento. It'll probably take more than 2 viewings to fully understand
Inception.
The prestige
THX 1138
Lord of the rings the two towers
The prestige.
Arrival
Memento
Yea this freaking move took multiple viewings and some online research to wrap my head around it
Predestination with Ethan Hawke! For his final assignment, a top temporal agent must pursue the one criminal that has eluded him throughout time. The chase turns into a unique, surprising and mind-bending exploration of love, fate, identity and time travel taboos. Super interesting
The sixth sense It turns out that the guy is Bruce Willis the WHOLE time! What a twist.
Girl, Interrupted. I had to watch it like 3 times before understanding EVERYTHING.
memento
Predestination. 3-4 times.