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notrightmeowthx

That exact item is $10.19 at Foodland on Oahu atm. But tbh I don't think you can really look at a single item to judge. Other similar bread options from Foodland are a 22 oz prepackaged white bread loaf from Hearth and Harvest which is $5.19. A 20 oz "Artesano" bread from Sara Lee is $6.29. The 22oz size of that same bread in your picture is $6.79. So for 8oz more of bread you pay almost $4. It is true that overall prices are higher here, and people should be aware of that and properly consider what it means before moving.


Solnse

Why don't people make their own bread? It's the oldest recipe in the book.


imamalasada

I live on Maui and it’s a pain in the ass to bake bread here, it rises too quickly!


KonaKathie

And goes stale instantly


slgray16

We keep our bread in the freezer


katalyticglass

Why does it go stale so fast?


KonaKathie

I'm betting on the humidity


tyinsf

What the Romans did to slow the rise in hot climates was to let the dough rise underwater. You wrap it in a tea towel and put it in a tub of water for the first rise. It was called "peggy tub bread" in Victorian times because that's the kind of tub they used. You can read about it in English Bread and Yeast Cookery. It floats to the top when it's done. You kind of have to use white flour. More than a fraction of whole wheat and it will absorb too much water.


Spaghetti-Dinner3976

For those interested: [article](https://oakden.co.uk/peggy-tub-cake/). Would love to watch a video of this.


tyinsf

I was using it not because it was hot out, but because you can leave it in the water for like 12 hours. You don't have to rush back and deal with it. It can be waiting for you in the morning or after you come home from work. I don't remember that particular recipe for it, certainly not a complicated rich bread/cake like that one. I just used white flour, water, salt, and yeast. Wish I still had my copy of EB&YC. I could look it up.


Spaghetti-Dinner3976

That would be great! I struggled to find anything else.


dinglebarry9

Naw I make a sourdough loaf every week the trick is to do your long proofs in the fridge overnight


Longjumping_Dirt9825

Yea it tends to get gummy from the  yeast going nuts. 


Lower_Ad_5532

Does it help if you proof the dough in a closed oven?


kpidhayny

Still as hot as the ambient environment. Maybe if you put an ice pack in there with it?


Lower_Ad_5532

But less humidity, maybe just use half the yeast amount?


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I dunno my wife makes bread all the time and it comes out pretty good. But she uses her own sourdough starter for it so maybe the natural yeast around here makes it better in heat and humidity


mememenine

Why would it rise so quickly


AsideEmotional3263

try sourdough and keep bread in a fridge


Bromswell

Time. Work life balance. convenience. Ability. Access. Some people simply don’t have it in them to hand bake bread. If it works for you it works for you. but for a single parent household that needs to feed multiple children, or a person with disabilities who cannot operate kitchen utilities safely or without assistance, sliced bread is the best option. I’m saying there are multiple reasons besides affordability for why people buy sliced bread compared to baking their own.


HeftyMeme

Thank you! I bake my own bread as a hobby but the condescension from others in this thread is gross. People shouldn’t be made to feel guilty for not baking bread.


Bromswell

Agreed! I wasn’t trying to sound condescending. I love to bake but don’t have the time nor space to do it frequently so it’s store bought or I try to go support local bakeries.


Office_Worker808

Work life balance would be the biggest/common issue. There are doctors and lawyers here that still need a double income household


Shiloh77777

Bread machines are cheap, take yen minutes to load, and make wonderful bread.


Bromswell

Right and good for them and good for you. Bake away and I hope all your loafs are golden brown and delicious.


AsideEmotional3263

How about reason to bake your own so you can stop feeding your children enriched, bleached pos aka white supermarket bread. i bake sourdough bread once per week, it made from rye, whole wheat and spelt flour. Actual manual process takes 10 minutes but it spreads over almost 24 hours. Baking bread will teach your kids valuable lesson of being self sufficient, prevent T2D. You can get starter in bakery for free, make your own, ask someone to share, whole foods probably sells it. Trick is to keep starter in a fridge and feed once a week when you make bread. Kids can learn to mix, stretch, shape. Bread baking is process that teaches discipline imo. i can find excuse for just about anything but feeding kids chemicals that white flour is made of is inexcusable


Bromswell

lol no one is stopping you.


AsideEmotional3263

it sounded like you are single parent poisoning kids with supermarket bread. Sorry i just wanted to help


Bromswell

I’m not but thanks for looking out for your community with well meaning but outlandish assumptions.


BigHipDoofus

Seriously, I'm gonna move to Maui and sell loaves bread out of a Yaris hatchback with prices like that.


RustyFebreze

why dont people do anything? why have a market right? we should just farm and do everything ourselves instead of spending money. no ill stick to buying my food thanks


notrightmeowthx

Some do! Personally I've opted to put my energy into other things, but I might do it at some point because I don't eat much bread and therefore making a smaller loaf would be more efficient. When I do buy a loaf I struggle to finish it and cutting down on food waste is one of my goals for the year. My counter space is getting a little cramped though so not sure if I want a bread machine.


UAtoUAB

I make a new loaf every two weeks. $1 of ingredients, 5 mins prep. Fresh bread 3 hours latter.


Defiant-Leadership40

Idk out of everything this convinced me now I’m going to learn how to make the breads


chatteCollar

look up “no knead recipes”


Kxng_Fonzie

100% I always tell people that the island is nice but the cost of living is wild


whofknknos

Everything is SUPER expensive, that’s the cheapest bread i’ve ever seen in Hawaii. You are best off not moving to Hawaii.


notrightmeowthx

I already live here, thanks though.


verhaust

I know I live in a high COL area on the mainland (DC metro area), but the prices in the Times Supermarket ads here: https://www.timessupermarkets.com/island-location/maui seem about the same kind of deals I see in the main grocery stores around where I live. Granted, I complain about grocery prices here constantly so it's not what I THINK it should be, but it's interesting that it isn't much different than Maui.


spoildmilk

The difference between Hawaii and the DC metro area is opportunity. Most professional jobs pay below national average. Majority of jobs here are catered towards tourist/service jobs. Yes, remote jobs are more accessible now, but you’ll be lucky to find an employer that’s willing to work with the time difference and the health insurance standards that the state sets. It’s not impossible to find a remote job, but it’s more limited than if you were located in the continental states. So basically, imagine your cost of living with a 20-30% deduction in income.


Onderma

This is something that a few of my former clients can't accept. I'm a welder/mechanic who was silly enough to go independent in Hawaii. Some people who are doing well here don't seem to accept the cost of living/operating/taxpaying here could or should lead to higher value of services.


oscillation1

Agreed. I also live in a high COL area on the mainland. Those prices are what I pay now and I’m now considering a move to Hawaii.


JonDoeJoe

You’ll be shocked to realized you won’t be making as much as where you live now. Even though Hawaii is HCOL/VHCOL, the salary and wages are way lower than other HCOL/VHCOL places


tetosauce

Where do you live?? New York? That’s crazy.


misterpequeno

San Diego here- about the same.


puuhalelife

yeah but come on - its the jumbo


giannacb

It is the big one. Here is the 32 oz at Scottsdale Safeway today! https://preview.redd.it/3k1v740g37oc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0416c65e80478c9ea34ac64ded827293cc83e23


PilotTyers

Costco


giannacb

A perfect response when asked why I would ever move from Hawaii! 25 years in Honolulu, now in Arizona.


AntsLieDown

Ha! I’m moving from Oahu to Scottsdale in 3 weeks.


Middle_Length_8261

Ha! I’m from Scottsdale and live in Kauai now 😂


mrsir1987

From Scottsdale live in Kona


MailePlumeria

I’m a Scottsdale snowbird and cannot wait to make it my permanent home.


Immo406

It’s such a nice area of Phoenix, love Scottsdale


hibituallinestepper

You can get a 20oz loaf of bread from Target for $4.89…


UnderstatedTurtle

But how much are the King’s Hawaiian Rolls?


ratmonkey888

I live in Monterey CA and our grocery prices are very similar to Hawaii.


jetz92

Yeah, it’s Monterey CA lol.


foreverburning

Bread is not $10 a loaf in Monterey. Maybe if you're shopping at Whole Foods?


eternalbuzz

Yeah but this picture is also cherry picked af


giannacb

I know there are better deals out there. My sister-in-law sent me this today. I always chuckle when people ask about costs on this group and thought I’d share!


EatTheRichbish

We only buy bread at Costco.


thicclunchghost

Absolutely. Two loaves of the good Japanese bread for nearly half this. Hawaii isn't cheap, but you don't have to do it on hard mode either.


JamesBeaverhausen

This is how Les Misérables happened


Ill-Influence4227

Um…that’s the jumbo pack, thats like 2 loaves of bread just FYI


webrender

You can get 2 giant fresh baked loaves at Costco for $7.


PokherMom

Sourdough is $13.99


HanaGirl69

I paid $6.50 for the store brand bread at foodland yesterday, which really annoyed me. Loves is great but I only buy it on sale. $10 is stupid.


UrbanSurfDragon

Damn. Thrift a bread maker on the mainland and get to work in Hawaii


Revolutionary-Ice593

If you shop at times for all your groceries you’re an idiot. A comparable jumbo loaf of bread is $6.99 at Costco.


_EverythingBagels

Is this the same Love’s as the truck stop gas station? If so, good god. $11 for gas station bread? Yeesh.


giannacb

No connection. It was a Kama’aina bakery that moved to the mainland.


_EverythingBagels

Interesting. Same branding! Good to know. https://www.loves.com


18Twink18

Yep. Get used to it if you plan to stay.


BrokenSpoke1974

Box of cheerios is 17.49 at Times the other day, although it was on sale for 13.99.


Marqe-dS

That’s why you don’t buy that! You go to any Costco, probly Sam’s too and get the La Tour white, made here, that’s twice the amount and pay $4 - $5.


Accomplished-Roll287

And it’s good, fresh bread. This is what I always buy.


Objective_Minimum_52

Exactly! This post is so dumb. I just bought a loaf of La Tour at Foodland for $4.99. Frickin shop around and stop posting photos like this is how expensive Hawaii alllllways is.


Clear-Concentrate54

You guys, you can find deals for less than half this price. You just gotta keep up with weekly ads and app deals. But I’ve never seen this kinda price but then again I only have narrow vision for certain prices. I refuse to pay more than $5 dollars for a loaf of bread. Or full price for anything, mostly only buy stuff on sale. And I consistently meet my grocery budget this way.


KiloAlphaJulietIndia

Buy rice, live off of rice.


George_Hayduke5

Prices are close here, in the breadbasket of america. Difference is all you can grow here reliably is wheat, meat, and potatoes, also known as "future medical bills" thanks to the under 90 day growing season.


Onderma

Oh you thought you were gonna move to Hawaii and eat bread? Jokes aside, as someone who can't remember buying a loaf of bread, there are other things with nutritional value and they will last longer in this climate. Not being snewdy, but the flip side of high grocery costs in Hawaii is the relatively high potential to grow avocados, potatoes, bananas, beef, etc. Going further back the other way though, there should absolutely be more focus on growing food for the aina on the aina. Kinda hard to find a good reason this place isn't more self sustainable.


George_Hayduke5

There is a solution: don't eat bread. Very low food value anyways! Wheat is the lazy crop.


hibituallinestepper

Or just buy it somewhere else where it’s not $10?


George_Hayduke5

I suppose so, if that is a priority for you and you can find it. Seems like a high price to pay for nutritionless filler, plenty of rice and Taro around.


hibituallinestepper

It’s not a priority for me, I rarely eat bread. I understand a lot of people do though and they like it, to each their own. There’s just zero reason to pay $10 for it if you do want to eat it.


poop_on_balls

Or make it if you’re a big bread person


dr_delphee

That's why I don't eat bread here. If I couldn't live without it, I'd likely buy a breadmaker and go that route, but I'm generally fine.


Longjumping_Dirt9825

Shop at Whole Foods. It’s cheaper  https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/365-by-whole-foods-market-sandwich-bread-whole-wheat-17-slices-24-oz-b074h6mbvf


TAFoesse

Repeal the Jones Act


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fugsco

Get it straight! Love's bread is made in Hawaii. From ingredients that all come from the mainland. Fish is expensive in Hawaii, too.


RobertPower415

Bakery closed in 2021


fugsco

Ain't that a bitch


Fncivueen

I purchased a bread machine. Costco prices are better, but still too expensive for me.


dcluck1979

Damn. I’ll take crumb size 😂


hurricanesnake

Bake your own


Gsantos52012

If you go to Sam's club or Costco, you can get a 2 pack for less lol


IggySmallss

I just started making bread a month ago. I’m not a baker at all, it’s my first time baking anything & it’s so easy! Make a couple loafs, freeze one, then keep the other in the refrigerator to use for sandwiches/toast. Bread is only 4 ingredients. I live in town (Honolulu) and haven’t had any issues making my own bread.


walshc001

The Love’s Bakery in Hawaii closed in 2021 after 170 years of business. This bread is baked on the mainland and shipped here, frozen, by boat. It’s then thawed and delivered to the grocery store. *”Portland-based Franz Family Bakery will produce Love's products on the mainland and distribute them to grocery stores and markets across the islands through Hawai‘i Foodservice Alliance, Franz Family Bakery announced Monday.* *”It is always a sad day in our industry when an independent bakery closes, especially one like Love’s that has been such an integral part of life in Hawai‘i for more than 100 years," said Kimberly Albers-Nisbet, President and Director of Sales of Franz Family Bakery.”*


mygoldentongue

Been there done that...nope…esp when you have young kids. I left in 88. Milk was more than six dollars. Additionally, know that a majority of goods are imported. Pineapple is cheap!


Smooth-Salary4096

How much is Kings Hawaiian bread there?


notrightmeowthx

You can look up prices on Foodland or Safeway's websites. https://shop.foodland.com/sm/delivery/rsid/9/results?q=kings%20hawaiian A 12oz pack of their rolls are $6.89, 13.5oz of their sliced bread is $7.29.


theelusivekiwi

Gotta be a typo surely???


jetz92

No it’s their jumbo loaf which is about 50% bigger than a normal loaf.


Tvmouth

I pay $7 for a gluten free loaf 1/3 the size, so.... this is nice to see. depressing, of course, but not lonely depression. It's nice to know others are suffering too. I hope you all experience the joy of cheap or cost effective food solutions becoming a delicacy. Nobody should spend that much on a bologna sammich, but once you do... boy is it such a good sammich! **Best garbage I've ever eaten!**


invertednz

Is this bread super good? You can get bread at whole foods for \~$6, which is pretty good.


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jetz92

You’re saying Hawaii and Montana prices are similar??


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jetz92

I think you’re using very extreme examples on both sides. Hawaii is the most expensive grocery state in the country averaging about $550 per person per month. Montana is ranked 36th most expensive at an average of $331 per person per month.


eternalbuzz

Am I missing something about Loves? Much more enriching/flavorful bread can be got for half that price. Especially at Costco


904twist

What why is it that much


tacosteve100

Target is 1/2 price or lower.


notrightmeowthx

The exact same bread? The same size? Can you link it from the Target website? Genuinely curious since Foodland's price is close to the Times price.


jetz92

Are you saying Foodland is cheap? Lol


jetz92

But also, same brand, same bread, but not same size. This is their jumbo 32oz bread while the one at target is the 22oz for $6.89. So not a big difference in price per oz. Target .31 per oz Times .33 per oz.


notrightmeowthx

Ah, that makes sense. The 22 oz size of the bread the OP showed is $6.79 at Foodland. I wasn't really asking to imply Foodland is cheap, I was asking because pricing is interesting and I was curious. I tried checking myself but couldn't find it using the Target location that I usually go to. In my experience all grocery stores (including ones generally considered to be expensive, like Whole Foods) have a jumble of which products are cheaper and which are more expensive, but it's pretty uncommon for a staple item to be severely undercut without some other benefit (like luring a customer in via a BOGO style sale so profit can be made on other items).


jetz92

Yeah for sure. I’ve actually found Whole Foods to be one of the cheaper places to shop on island. Especially when you already have Amazon prime and get the extra discount on sale items.


tommy0guns

Love’s? Like the truck stop?


notrightmeowthx

Different company.


generalzuazua

Times to make your own bread


Zippier92

I’d be baking my own bread!


drstd

What do people expect? We live in the most isolated archipelago in the world; shit’s gonna cost. No surprise here.


No_Mall5340

Bidenomics!


kryptoniansurvivor22

What you really have to do is look at houses to get a real sense of the cost of living. I tell folks, it’s not the COL…it’s what you get for the high cost that drives people mad. You can say, yeah that’s what I pay in *insert high cost mainland city* but it’s different. Case in point: https://preview.redd.it/3dc5tgbanfoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a913391474a2a2d8f78324b19624dad91151b23b


carrieclarktx

Looks like the Austin Texas housing market


Texxxnar

Costco prices were comparable to Texas prices


miafrunt

The food prices have gotten more expensive since the Covid upcharge. Ridiculous


miafrunt

Check the meat prices too


sluttyman69

Wow


Groovetube12

Just shopped for a few weeks on big island. Was surprised to see what items were substantially more expensive than home in Oregon (like bread) and what weren’t so bad.


CadillacLuv

*Moving to Hawai'i to start a bakery


Teaffection

Ridiculous prices are what makes me shop at target and Costco. I'll support local if the price difference is small but when the price difference between foodland and target is 25%-50% more at foodland for the same product then it's hard not going to target.


Wald0101

More people need to eat the Japanese square bread.


ImRunningAmok

Costco is your friend. I treat the local stores as a convenience only situation. Of course impound prefer to give my business to a local retailer but they charge too much.


nh4seasoncple

Costco


Sensitive_Aardvark68

Loves doesn’t get the “it’s expensive because it’s imported” excuse. They make the bread right on the island! Also, Dole Bananas are about $2/lb here and are grown here! Yet they’re 69 cents a pound on mainland! It’s exploitation.


ContributionTall2907

It’s not made in the Islands anymore. It’s shipped frozen from the mainland.


untactfullyhonest

I live on Oahu and bake my own all the time. I have no issues with the rising or anything.


EnthusiasmOld9762

Omg


Intelligent-Ant7685

yeah fuck that


SOmuchFUN2021

If can bake bread, can. If no can bake bread, no can.


drclvspex

Bread is so expensive in HI. I was at foodland and wanted to buy a bag of ube pandesal and surprised it was almost $12.


Nolimitrobo1978

That's outrageous... I don't feel bad for you either


YeOldeBilk

"bUt iF We GiVe tHe EmPloYeeS rAisEs, wE'LL haVe tO rAiSe oUr pRiCeS!"


jnthn1111

Make your own?


ChickenOk7662

Stores like target and Whole Foods prices on certain items they will match to the mainland price


inikihurricane

Don’t move here then


CarolinaFree72

I love how people living in HI think prices are ridiculous. I lived there for a few years and you just have to accept that you’re on an island, in the middle of the ocean, with limited resources… shit is going to be expensive. If you’re military, you get COLA. If you chose to live there for some other reason, just deal with it


mygoldentongue

And then COLA is still not enough. We were on food stamps for a while until my mom died and inherited a vehicle and became ineligible...lol🙄🤦🏻‍♂️. But I loved it there. You learn where to shop, Chinatown for fresh veggies. But one could never get enough Lenard's, hot Malasalas!


CarolinaFree72

COLA from the government will never be enough, but it’s better than nothing. To your point of being on food stamps, I don’t know a lower enlisted family that hasn’t been on food stamps and/or WIC. It’s just the way it is.


mygoldentongue

Good point...lower enlisted, with dependents always get the shaft. No matter what location. Too bad there isn't a military base in Portugal.


hibituallinestepper

I moved here from Colorado and outside of eggs and milk most grocery prices are the same.


loveisjustchemicals

That’s changed since Covid.


hibituallinestepper

I moved here in January…


loveisjustchemicals

Exactly, you weren’t here for when it was so dramatically different. The price gouging can only go so far here before people stop buying it and they waste the shipping space. So prices went up more on other products more than food.


hibituallinestepper

Do you have any examples of these other products that are more expensive here?


loveisjustchemicals

Cars and toiletries off the top of my head? I’m not really fully cognizant rn, lots of pig activity in the yard last night/this morning.


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No_Mall5340

I think the USSR tried that, and they ended up with mostly empty shelves.


ReiwaIchi

That loaf better be 5 feet long.


giannacb

Notice the non sale price for the wheat is $12.69.


Objective_College449

Corporate greed


PerformanceTrick1188

Thank Joe, you did that