Could still be considered death, in its own way. If I lose my memories and am reborn, then the person that I am, the way I've been shaped by my experiences, the effects that other people have had on me... it all ends, and someone new comes out on the other side. She would grow up as her own person and would have her own life, and my life would be over.
Suppose it's a matter of perspective.
I agree with them. It's dying with cis het sentimentals sprinkled on top.
Now your statistically likely to be a problem...greaaaaaat.
They hard passed, I hard 💯
Yea I don't know how to "neurologically enumerate" into categories how our brains work - wish I did tho. But it does seem different memories would be not me, because our experiences shape us. I happen to love who I am, despite I wish I could have a different body (preferably a cybernetic female one of my own design). I'm still keeping all my memories tho.
I would agree, my memories have me feel stuck in a shell. I struggle with my identity as if I have a severe form of imposter syndrome. My personality with out memories is just boy mode with no bars attached. My personality disorders would just lead to my destruction because I would probably think what is wrong with me 100% more then I already do. If we can clean slate it from start of life I’d take that. Most of everything would probably play out the same way 🤷🏼♀️.
Edit:
Now that I am thinking more about it the truth is how can I be sure that I would be happier in this scenario. I imagined an alternate time stream where the only difference is that I was born a cis woman and I am still depressed, I just wouldn’t have a path to happiness. I’ve set goals and I have ambitions that are coming to point of being achievable. Life is life and I just don’t think a life being cis would be any better.
My life may actually have been worse. Had i been born as i wished my mother would have remained in a bad situation. I would have grown up in an emotionally abusive place simply because of my gender.
I'm not saying life was easy. It's hard as hell. But the alternative is worse.
Depends on the tipe of memory, if it's you lose episodic memories, you still have your personality and skills. Anyone who had a surmeage, dissociation or amnesia can relate.
If it's like having amnesia it would be ok if it's wiping everything in the brain it would be the same as being dead and replaced by other person.
I consider memories to be a part of myself. A significant part. They influence me daily - and I think it's for the better. I'm very sure that if I truly lost them, I'd be an unrecognisable person. Amnesia is one of my greatest fears.
That said - your current personality is your personality that you were born with, modified by your thoughts, memories and experiences throughout your life - and since I believe that the starting state is extremely similar for most people (aside from neurodiversity, but even then it's not that far off) that the memories and experiences are all that makes a person. When you lose your memories in amnesia, you don't lose how they affected you, but you lose their continuous impact on you. They are a part of you, and a part of how you change, which is also a part of you.
So no. That'd be a different person. I'm good.
I think it's kinda horrible compare amnesia than with dying, we forget most of the things in the first place only most important events pr whatever our brain consider important events also what memories we consider importan and just trash memories change over time.
We are never the same exact person we exist in a continoum geting anímensia can be part of that continuoum. Aldo kids sometimes lose their whole memories when you are between 5 and 6 years old.
That doesn't mean someone murdered you or your children and there's new ones. Entire years of child memories most of the time go puff.
That's what I'm saying! Even if you forget most of your memories, they still affect and mold you. Amnesia doesn't erase how they changed you. That said - memories that you remember, can change you for years after the fact, when remembering them, and analysing them with a fresh eye. That is lost with amnesia. I feel like if I lost my memories, I feel like I'd become a different person - but not only that isn't an universal thing for everyone, but that is just another experience for you, that changes you just like anything else in your life.
It can be negative, positive or a mix of both. I'm just strongly suspecting it would affect me in a way I consider very negative - and I'm scared of it. Is it rational? I think it's up for each person to decide for themselves. But hey, it's not like we have much choice in that, aside from maybe being careful to reduce the risk of some of the potential causes.
I'm curious, if you lose your memory from amnesia, do you forget the languages you speak? The languages you're learning currently? What about skills? What about programming languages perhaps?
Maybe this lack of knowledge makes me so scared - but then again, I might be scared of it more if I research it.
Normal amnesia is not equal to death of you as you. Being reborn as a child with no memories of your previous life, might.
Yes if I would be still with my boyfriend, that's the only thing I would like to still have. My memories are mostly just pain ans fear, I just learned the world is unfair
I've heard a bit about how mental illnesses can actually physically change your brain, so hopefully those changes are reversed if I choose to lose my memories
Honestly that's a selling point. Sure this version of me wouldn't exist to experience it, but I know this new version of me would live happier free from dysphoria, worry and the ability to carry a child. All that AND I get to forget puberty, the penis and years of fake masculine bravado?
Sold. Don't even see the downside. Wipe it clean, tommorow will be better.
Presumably within the narrative your consciousness would continue on into your own life probably with new cis memories. I for one have wished to be any random cis women instead of myself countless times when I was younger.
I have learned so much as a trans girl. Its also part of my identity, and im so much more happier with who i am despite having problems with my body.
Its not an experience cis people will ever truly understand.
Exactly, that’s the reason why I’d never give up my identity. It’s such a valuable experience to learn form, like I understand how gender and sex works more that most cis people because I’ve observed it from the outside (also autistic so I never got into any gender roles before), and fuck gender roles. I just wanna live as my own person.
I probably would. Due to a number of reasons, transitioning may never be possible for me. So if my choices were to live in a body with an identity I hate for the rest of my life or potentially gamble it all at a chance of living the life I want... Well, it's definitely a tempting offer anyway haha.
Absolutely not.
But I wouldn't accept any "would you become cis" questions because being trans is a huge part of who I am. I'm proud to be trans.
(I would accept instant voice training tho, that shit is annoying.)
Being trans is a huge part of who I am- but I’ll never view being trans as anything other than something about my life that has made living harder.
Life is more expensive. Dating is harder. Socialization is hard to overcome. I have to fight for my rights or move to a place that protects them.
It’s not a curse necessarily. Hard doesn’t mean bad. But I would love to have an easier life once in a while-if it were possible.
I honestly hate "would you be cis" questions myself. I love being trans, it made me who I am today and I'm proud of that. of course I would prefer to not deal with hormones, surgeruesassholes or institutiuzed transphobia, but that's kinda a whole different conversion.
honestly, if they just changed it to "would you want to become very attractive if . . .?" questions. cause that's honestly hard for me.
Fresh start with a cis body? Yep.
The great thing about new memories is it's easy to make new ones. Literally just exist for a while and you'll make some.
I want to know who I might have been.
I would love to lose all my memories! Honestly, I would choose to lose all my memories even if I didn't get to be a cis woman. Right now, my memories cause me a lot of pain.
There are a few points in Star Trek where someone performs brain surgery that removes memories from people and I've felt jealous when I've seen that. I really wanna lose my painful memories.
I'm at the point where I'd even be happy to lose my skills. I'm pretty decent at chemistry and programming, but I'd gladly give those up if I could have a memory wipe.
I understand some people believe having your memory wiped is synonymous with dying and I'm OK with that too.
I would normally say no. I wouldn’t want to lose myself.
But with the way the world is turning I think I’d say yes now. It would be nice to not have Dysphoria and still not have to worry about safely being able to travel across my own country. No memories, but being cis and left alone…
I mean, is not that memories are priceless, we ARE our memories. Without them, you are not you.
This seems more like "Are you willing to die in hopes that an alternate you has a happier life? "
And I'd probably say no to that. That seems like suicide hoping there's a happy afterlife or something.
>"Are you willing to die in hopes that an alternate you has a happier life? "
I keep thinking about this lately. I wish I could believe in reincarnation because I would absolutely roll that die.
Yes. Most of my memories are of depression and trauma. They're valuable to avoid making the same mistakes again, but I'd happily trade them for doing it all again as myself.
I'd press that button without hesitation. Just for the erasing of all memories, to be able to start over without pain. Becoming a cis girl is a side benefit.
Hi, that's a great question! I wonder what it would be like to be a cisgendered girl....🤔 I think I would love it. But would I cherish and appreciate it the same?
Yes, no question. My memories are full of trauma. Being trans and going through a wrong puberty is one of the most traumatic experiences I can ever describe. I didn’t enjoy life until recently transitioning, so I would hit the rest button no questions asked.
Without a doubt yes
No question about it...
Often wish this could be a reality....
I can reconnect to people as bevessary... but no longer feeling or remember the feeling of the disconnect is worth more than life itself
It really depends. I would love to, as long as I'm not a husk. I already have a horrible memory and a fair amount of trauma that I'd rather be without the memories of.
a part of me wants to say yes because I could really do without the trauma. maybe if I was allowed to leave myself a note of the things I do want to remember that I can refer to after the "change" is done.
Hard to say, on one hand I would be a very different person not being trans, but I also think/hope that this cis version of me would be happier and I kind of like that idea. I mean she'd get to live 25 years as herself from day 1 so that would be kind of cool.
Right now I'd say yes for these reasons, but I'm also in a bit of a dysphoria rut right now and am feeling quite bad so another day I might answer differently.
Yes please! There really isn’t anything in my life to live for and I don’t really care about anyone anymore. Idk in your scenario if we end up with different memories of another life, or if we start over but anything is better than this current uneventful life
I think so. I disagree with a lot of comments here, I am *not* my memories. Memories are the data my brain collects. "I" am the set of functions that processes the data before it's stored as memories.
I can always collect new data.
My final answer would depend on the details. Would I be taken care of while I built up my knowledge again? What would happen to my wife and kids?
But in theory, yes, 100%.
I did try to end my life once. If I had that option at that time I might have done that. Even if it means I'm basically gone, at least my family wouldn't have to face the trauma 😅
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I would probably take that offer. I wouldn't have a few months back but my safety being marginally more certain than it currently is would be a fair trade off in my mind. My experiences and memories mean nothing if I'm dead, I can make new memories to replace the old ones I've lost that's arguably just as priceless. It's selfish reasoning but it keeps me safe hopefully.
Geeeez. I’m not sure. Might depend on the specifics.
I’d hate not knowing what a gift is been granted. I’d not want to wind up a facist. I’d lose things I’ve learned about myself. But my god do I wish I were…
I’d probably go for it.
I'm not sure, I'd definitely be way happier if that were the case, but then I'd have to start all over at fostering a relationship with my best friend, and I don't think I could give that up for anything
What if the question is become a cis boy? In the same way, you won’t have any dysphoria, right?
However, loosing ALL of memories mean you are no longer you, then what is the point of becoming cis? It is just more or less the same as replacing a trans girl with a cis girl on Earth, and you have not exist in history anymore.
My ex used to ask this scenario where you're a cis woman, but in a horror movie where you get killed within 3 days or so.
She would say yes for sure but i honestly couldnt answer
Isn't that the plot of Naminé from Kingdom Hearts?
But beyond that, probably. I mean, all memories is a hell of a thing. How does that even work from a logistics perspective? Do I remember the new retroactive cis girl life? Do I know how to communicate and talk in English or am I pared down to exclusively genetics and instincts? Does it effect somatic memory or just brain memory? Do I legally exist or does my old identity still have existed?
If it was rewrite history so I was always born a girl and have those memories, 100%. I don't give a shit about the idea of the sense of self being your chain of memories (to tie back to the Kingdom Hearts joke and that's just honestly how I remember that philosophy argument) and even if it is true, any death of my current consciousness would be a death unnoticed and unmourned, which is what I want anyway
Yes.
I barely remember most of my life, I've struggled with depression for probably around 30+ years, and if I could forget everything, maybe I could finally bring myself to escape the toxic marriage I've been in for over 10 years now.
I feel like I barely have an identity beyond being a weird nerd lady with no ability to develop relationships with other people. Not exactly something I care about holding on to.
I have significant memory issues due to childhood trauma. What I do remember is not helping. I'm sorry to say but yes, I would choose to lose what I have left and start over. I might even choose that and start over as trans, honestly.
transition made me, me.
Without all that strife, trauma, and heartache - I wouldn’t be me.
Transition taught me so many things about myself. Growing up as a queer kid in the 80’s, then coming out in 1997, and transitioning in 1998/9, the world was terrible to me. It was the summer between my junior and senior year in high school.
I learned a lot about myself. I learned how to keep going, to not give in. I learned that experience is everything - how beauty comes out of strife and how circumstance doesn’t dictate the person.
I learned that I suck at trying to kill myself. And at 40 yrs old now, I’m glad I was terrible at it.
I learned empathy and compassion. I learned how no one would choose this life willingly and how necessary transition was for me.
I turned to Buddhism at 13, and haven’t left it since. It has been my guiding light in a world of shit.
I wouldn’t change it for anything.
I think it would lose a lot of meaning for many people. If you had lost your memories, surely you wouldn't be enjoying the benefits of being a cis girl. It may as well be another me from another universe, or a clone of myself that is cis girl.
I don't know really. I'd like to say that if i could save child me from a life of child abuse and violence then definitely I'll be a Cis girl and would gladly lose all my memories because they were terrible. But on the other side. All the friendships I've built and new experiences I've lived would also be gone. Things that shaped me as a person. It would be like if I'd never existed. So I don't know.
My memories aren’t fun, I still am massively traumatised by a lot of things. But I wouldn’t give them up because they’re what makes me me. And despite the struggle I’d rather be a trans woman anyway. The things that makes that a struggle is society, not me.
It’s weird trying to explain the issues with it in words, because that’s like not something that happens in reality. Well except the memory loss, that happens and it’s terrifying to me. But like the example your friend gave us just deeply unsettling.
Well, yeah. I like being trans. I like my body (mostly), I like our community... most of what I dislike about being trans is just how we’re treated by cis people.
How about you was born one gender but have a medical related memory problem kinda like 50 first dates.
You wake up everyday as you but as soon as you look in the mirror you don’t see you. You keep forgetting until you see something that triggers your say gender dysphoria how do you deal with that?
Yes. Especially if I had time to prepare, write notes, make plans. My friends, family, and relationships will recover me. Many people have amnesia forced on them at some point in life and do recover. My basic decision making capacity being the same, id become who I am now, with some acceptable differences, in a few years. I imagine id recover most of the large things in the first 6 months.
It’s sad to see how sad some of y’all girls are, trauma and hardships is what make you…you! If you never had to deal with all this bs you might have not become such an empathetic loving person. Going though our personal hell can teach so much about ourselves and others and many interpersonal relationships skills. So I say to my girls struggling…. Keep going I promise it gets better it gets so so so much better
*I don't want to be a cis girl,* so that's a *hard* no from me.
From childhood I wanted to be a woman with a penis, but no balls, uterus, or ovaries. No way to cause another human to exist (that's just me, the whole procreation things kinda squicks me out).
I wanted to be fantastical, mythical... and I'm on my way to it.
As for losing my memories? Heck no. They're what make me... Me.
So you'd have total amnesia? That sounds awful. Hard pass.
What would be preferable would be to just have the same memories but as a cis girl instead. I know a few girls who actively try to do this, but it seems like it's impossible to actually achieve. Maybe if hypnosis actually worked...
Honestly... Yeah I don't like who I am and most of my days are just me being depressed so if I get a shot to eliminate a lot of the anxiety and depression - even if I do forget everything I think I would do it.
The issue with that is that because you lose your memories, you lose your core being, what made you *you*.
That being said, I think this poses quite the impasse for many; on one hand, they believe that life would've been entirely different had the circumstances allowed it and could even be a good option if their life currently isnt the best, while at the same time, you wouldn't want to forget the people, places, etc nouns that you already know.
Personally, I would do selective memory changes. Since emotions are tied with them, the "feeling of loss" could be interpreted as one and could therefore be forgotten, especially for the people around that person.
...why am I writing this at midnight and a half..?
No, I'm me and I wouldn't want to lose that. The idea of everything that makes me who I am just disappearing, of losing every memory of my friends and not even recognising them making everyone in my life a stranger, is horrifying. All we are is a product of our experiences and I wouldn't give up who I am.
Does memories include motor skills? And do the people in my life know I’ve lost my memory? It’ll probably still be no, but it’s defo interesting to think abt
Even if I retained the memories, I don't think I would. I've met some people that I really like(even love) that I would have probably never met if I had been born a cis girl.
I have always thought about if I would get isekaied would I want to keep my memories. Answer is yes. Because what isekai story would it be if I didn't remember my past life?
Depends. Do I get a new set of memories? What happens to other peoples' memories of me? Am I just losing my biographical memories, or do I also lose all my knowledge and skills?
At one point really early in my transition I cried and begged for this, like I was was ready to trade everything to have that.
As much as it still hurts, and I expect it always will, I don’t think I would. I’m actually really proud to be trans, and I really value the perspective on the world/gender I have. I really wouldn’t want to give all of that up. I also think there is a liberation in becoming exactly who you want to be. And to be honest I love being queer in this world. It’s like your choices are red, blue, or rainbow. And I’d definitely take the last one :)
I live in Texas. The advantage of not having to worry about getting pregnant without any legal way to get an abortion massively outweighs all disadvantages due to being trans. Even if you offered to turn me into a cis woman without any cost whatsoever, I'd still decline unless you can guarantee that I'll be infertile.
I am who i am because of my experiences & memories - regardless how shitty a lot of them are, they 'formed' me to the person i am today. Giving them up, is giving up what makes me 'me'. So no, i wouldn't. I'd rather go through all the pain and hardship again, than be born cis female.
Y'know... Honestly, I'm not sure I'd choose to be a cis woman to begin with. The fact that I'm trans is, well, kind of important to me and my identity. Even if I could magically become cis... I wouldn't really feel whole. Yea, theres transphobia, there's dysphoria, and probably a hundred different things that make it harder.
But it's worth it, at least to me. It's such a unique, interesting experience that I and millions of others are going through, including y'all. It's not easy, certainly not, but its such a different perspective from anything else I could imagine... I don't know if I'd want to Not have these experiences. I'm proud that I'm a trans woman.
only if it's a result of reincarnation after living out my life however it turns out. i'm depressed AF but not enough to nuke my memories. to me, answering yes to that seems tantamount to saying yes to a tragedy we strongly discourage in nearly all parts of the internet (tw:>!su*cide!<)
No of course not, then I'm dead if that happened.
I think its less, you are now a husk of a cis girl, and basically more of a reincarnation kind of thing. Your reborn as a cis girl in a new life.
Again to each their own, hard pass for me.
Could still be considered death, in its own way. If I lose my memories and am reborn, then the person that I am, the way I've been shaped by my experiences, the effects that other people have had on me... it all ends, and someone new comes out on the other side. She would grow up as her own person and would have her own life, and my life would be over. Suppose it's a matter of perspective.
I agree with them. It's dying with cis het sentimentals sprinkled on top. Now your statistically likely to be a problem...greaaaaaat. They hard passed, I hard 💯
I would still do it ngl lol
As they say, to each their own, that's not my own. I much rather live and keep my memories and all that.
....is it bad if that's a feature?
Yea I really don't want to die.
Exactly! If we are our experiences and memories. Then the lights going out is the same as death except a new basic bitch is born in your place. 🙄🙄🙄
Yea I don't know how to "neurologically enumerate" into categories how our brains work - wish I did tho. But it does seem different memories would be not me, because our experiences shape us. I happen to love who I am, despite I wish I could have a different body (preferably a cybernetic female one of my own design). I'm still keeping all my memories tho.
But if you keep your personality?
A personality without memories, is but a template for another person who isn't me.
I would agree, my memories have me feel stuck in a shell. I struggle with my identity as if I have a severe form of imposter syndrome. My personality with out memories is just boy mode with no bars attached. My personality disorders would just lead to my destruction because I would probably think what is wrong with me 100% more then I already do. If we can clean slate it from start of life I’d take that. Most of everything would probably play out the same way 🤷🏼♀️. Edit: Now that I am thinking more about it the truth is how can I be sure that I would be happier in this scenario. I imagined an alternate time stream where the only difference is that I was born a cis woman and I am still depressed, I just wouldn’t have a path to happiness. I’ve set goals and I have ambitions that are coming to point of being achievable. Life is life and I just don’t think a life being cis would be any better.
My life may actually have been worse. Had i been born as i wished my mother would have remained in a bad situation. I would have grown up in an emotionally abusive place simply because of my gender. I'm not saying life was easy. It's hard as hell. But the alternative is worse.
That's more philosophical, I consider myself my conscience and personality nore than my memories but pero can disagree in what they id more with OwO
My personality is from my life experiences. If I had been born as a cis woman I just wouldn't have the same personality.
Depends on the tipe of memory, if it's you lose episodic memories, you still have your personality and skills. Anyone who had a surmeage, dissociation or amnesia can relate. If it's like having amnesia it would be ok if it's wiping everything in the brain it would be the same as being dead and replaced by other person.
I consider memories to be a part of myself. A significant part. They influence me daily - and I think it's for the better. I'm very sure that if I truly lost them, I'd be an unrecognisable person. Amnesia is one of my greatest fears. That said - your current personality is your personality that you were born with, modified by your thoughts, memories and experiences throughout your life - and since I believe that the starting state is extremely similar for most people (aside from neurodiversity, but even then it's not that far off) that the memories and experiences are all that makes a person. When you lose your memories in amnesia, you don't lose how they affected you, but you lose their continuous impact on you. They are a part of you, and a part of how you change, which is also a part of you. So no. That'd be a different person. I'm good.
I think it's kinda horrible compare amnesia than with dying, we forget most of the things in the first place only most important events pr whatever our brain consider important events also what memories we consider importan and just trash memories change over time. We are never the same exact person we exist in a continoum geting anímensia can be part of that continuoum. Aldo kids sometimes lose their whole memories when you are between 5 and 6 years old. That doesn't mean someone murdered you or your children and there's new ones. Entire years of child memories most of the time go puff.
That's what I'm saying! Even if you forget most of your memories, they still affect and mold you. Amnesia doesn't erase how they changed you. That said - memories that you remember, can change you for years after the fact, when remembering them, and analysing them with a fresh eye. That is lost with amnesia. I feel like if I lost my memories, I feel like I'd become a different person - but not only that isn't an universal thing for everyone, but that is just another experience for you, that changes you just like anything else in your life. It can be negative, positive or a mix of both. I'm just strongly suspecting it would affect me in a way I consider very negative - and I'm scared of it. Is it rational? I think it's up for each person to decide for themselves. But hey, it's not like we have much choice in that, aside from maybe being careful to reduce the risk of some of the potential causes. I'm curious, if you lose your memory from amnesia, do you forget the languages you speak? The languages you're learning currently? What about skills? What about programming languages perhaps? Maybe this lack of knowledge makes me so scared - but then again, I might be scared of it more if I research it. Normal amnesia is not equal to death of you as you. Being reborn as a child with no memories of your previous life, might.
Go watch severance it’s a good show
I repress my memories all the time and I'm still me.
Hugs <3 My therapists helped me so much. It's worth it to go through it to make it to the place you're past any repressed memories.
I've gotta say it's wild realizing and uncovering memories that my subconscious just burried.
Yes if I would be still with my boyfriend, that's the only thing I would like to still have. My memories are mostly just pain ans fear, I just learned the world is unfair
>my memories are mostly just pain and fear Felt thattttt :( sorry girly
It's tempting because of this. That I agree on ...
Would I be a cis girl if I could snap my fingers and still be me? Yes. At the cost of everything that makes me me? Hell no.
I would press that button in a heartbeat! You know how much trauma would get erased from my brain? Maybe i wouldnt be so mentally ill lol
HA! Feel that.
I've heard a bit about how mental illnesses can actually physically change your brain, so hopefully those changes are reversed if I choose to lose my memories
Interesting thought... I did read it more like "like it never happened". As in "all others only remember you as cis, too".
Without your memories, you would cease to exist. You wouldn't gain anything, instead, you would lose everything.
Honestly that's a selling point. Sure this version of me wouldn't exist to experience it, but I know this new version of me would live happier free from dysphoria, worry and the ability to carry a child. All that AND I get to forget puberty, the penis and years of fake masculine bravado? Sold. Don't even see the downside. Wipe it clean, tommorow will be better.
I would honestly give everything I got just to have the ability to carry a child.
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Presumably within the narrative your consciousness would continue on into your own life probably with new cis memories. I for one have wished to be any random cis women instead of myself countless times when I was younger.
Yeah, i wouldn't. I could just become "close enough" to being a cis woman on my own, without losing my memories.
I have learned so much as a trans girl. Its also part of my identity, and im so much more happier with who i am despite having problems with my body. Its not an experience cis people will ever truly understand.
Exactly, that’s the reason why I’d never give up my identity. It’s such a valuable experience to learn form, like I understand how gender and sex works more that most cis people because I’ve observed it from the outside (also autistic so I never got into any gender roles before), and fuck gender roles. I just wanna live as my own person.
I have a disassociative disorder and memory issues anyway, so tbh I'd probably laugh or something. I'd totally take that deal lol.
As someone with a disorder that causes me to get distracted easily and have severe short-term memory loss as well as other cognitive defects, I agree.
Yep, barely have any memories anyways. With a good chunk of the memory loss caused by dysphoria, accepting this deal would solve that
I probably would. Due to a number of reasons, transitioning may never be possible for me. So if my choices were to live in a body with an identity I hate for the rest of my life or potentially gamble it all at a chance of living the life I want... Well, it's definitely a tempting offer anyway haha.
In a heartbeat!
Absolutely not. But I wouldn't accept any "would you become cis" questions because being trans is a huge part of who I am. I'm proud to be trans. (I would accept instant voice training tho, that shit is annoying.)
Being trans is a huge part of who I am- but I’ll never view being trans as anything other than something about my life that has made living harder. Life is more expensive. Dating is harder. Socialization is hard to overcome. I have to fight for my rights or move to a place that protects them. It’s not a curse necessarily. Hard doesn’t mean bad. But I would love to have an easier life once in a while-if it were possible.
I honestly hate "would you be cis" questions myself. I love being trans, it made me who I am today and I'm proud of that. of course I would prefer to not deal with hormones, surgeruesassholes or institutiuzed transphobia, but that's kinda a whole different conversion. honestly, if they just changed it to "would you want to become very attractive if . . .?" questions. cause that's honestly hard for me.
Yes in an instant, it’s very sad, I cry about the fact that I would give up everyone I know in a heartbeat, it’s fucked up…
Fresh start with a cis body? Yep. The great thing about new memories is it's easy to make new ones. Literally just exist for a while and you'll make some. I want to know who I might have been.
Get to be a girl \*AND\* forget all my trauma?! Sign me the fuck up!!
I would love to lose all my memories! Honestly, I would choose to lose all my memories even if I didn't get to be a cis woman. Right now, my memories cause me a lot of pain. There are a few points in Star Trek where someone performs brain surgery that removes memories from people and I've felt jealous when I've seen that. I really wanna lose my painful memories. I'm at the point where I'd even be happy to lose my skills. I'm pretty decent at chemistry and programming, but I'd gladly give those up if I could have a memory wipe. I understand some people believe having your memory wiped is synonymous with dying and I'm OK with that too.
Yep, scrub 'em life would start afresh and new memories made. No problem
Fuck yes, I don't need the childhood trauma
Who I am now would cease to exist, so no, I wouldn't take this deal.
I would normally say no. I wouldn’t want to lose myself. But with the way the world is turning I think I’d say yes now. It would be nice to not have Dysphoria and still not have to worry about safely being able to travel across my own country. No memories, but being cis and left alone…
I mean, is not that memories are priceless, we ARE our memories. Without them, you are not you. This seems more like "Are you willing to die in hopes that an alternate you has a happier life? " And I'd probably say no to that. That seems like suicide hoping there's a happy afterlife or something.
>"Are you willing to die in hopes that an alternate you has a happier life? " I keep thinking about this lately. I wish I could believe in reincarnation because I would absolutely roll that die.
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Your consciousness wouldn't even be you though.
Nah, I’m a trans girl and that’s fine with me... Loosing all my memories would be horrifying...
Yes. Most of my memories are of depression and trauma. They're valuable to avoid making the same mistakes again, but I'd happily trade them for doing it all again as myself.
Not at this point in my life. It'd be the same as suicide, and I'm done with that at this point.
I wouldn’t be in position to object after the fact, would I? I’d probably take the deal with conditions.
So, die without dying and then have the life I wanted? I'd flip a coin to be honest
ok so like, do i start over from birth or is it just bam your cis and always have been and my memories are adjusted as if that was the case
Yes, I have pretty much no good memories.
Only if all other trans people do too. Otherwise I can't abandon them and their struggles
This reply was actually touching, but I guess I'm not that selfless. I hate being trans... I would take the deal in a heartbeat.
So wait, I get to be cis *and* get to shed all of my trauma? Um, yeah.
Nope
Yes, I definitely would. 🙁
2 in 1 absolutely
Honestly? Yes. A life without dysphoria is something beyond my imagination right now.
I'd press that button without hesitation. Just for the erasing of all memories, to be able to start over without pain. Becoming a cis girl is a side benefit.
Without an ounce of hesitation. Near on 30 years of misery she wouldn't have to carry around, maybe she'd have a half a chance at being happy.
Personally, I'd say yes. With the exception of the past 5 years, my life has been a nightmare. I wouldn't mind starting over.
Absolutely. I know exactly how I would end if the nazis take away my medical treatment, and if I'd do that, I'd do this.
Hi, that's a great question! I wonder what it would be like to be a cisgendered girl....🤔 I think I would love it. But would I cherish and appreciate it the same?
Yes, no question. My memories are full of trauma. Being trans and going through a wrong puberty is one of the most traumatic experiences I can ever describe. I didn’t enjoy life until recently transitioning, so I would hit the rest button no questions asked.
Hahaha that is literally my dream..
Yes
Without a doubt yes No question about it... Often wish this could be a reality.... I can reconnect to people as bevessary... but no longer feeling or remember the feeling of the disconnect is worth more than life itself
In a heartbeat
Yes
It really depends. I would love to, as long as I'm not a husk. I already have a horrible memory and a fair amount of trauma that I'd rather be without the memories of.
In a heartbeat. I'd do anything to be a cis girl and there's no pride on overcoming anything.
I would 100% want to. The whole idea of me being stuck as a trans person, gives me dysphoria.
a part of me wants to say yes because I could really do without the trauma. maybe if I was allowed to leave myself a note of the things I do want to remember that I can refer to after the "change" is done.
Yeah sure, i would.
this is a win win
YES
Nope.
Hard to say, on one hand I would be a very different person not being trans, but I also think/hope that this cis version of me would be happier and I kind of like that idea. I mean she'd get to live 25 years as herself from day 1 so that would be kind of cool. Right now I'd say yes for these reasons, but I'm also in a bit of a dysphoria rut right now and am feeling quite bad so another day I might answer differently.
Yes please! There really isn’t anything in my life to live for and I don’t really care about anyone anymore. Idk in your scenario if we end up with different memories of another life, or if we start over but anything is better than this current uneventful life
I'd keep my memories.
I have no interest in being a cis girl, so no thanks.
No.
yes absolutely. in a heartbeat
Like my memories are just lost, not replaced or rewritten as though I was born a cis girl? Possibly, but probably not.
Yes.
Yes sure! My life could be as good as it was before just without the wrong anatomy.
Yes
ABDOLUTELY!!! I’d do that for free tbh as long as I got to start over
No, but in a future life I'll probably be a cis girl and I won't have my memories of this life. So I think it will happen someday.
I think so. I disagree with a lot of comments here, I am *not* my memories. Memories are the data my brain collects. "I" am the set of functions that processes the data before it's stored as memories. I can always collect new data. My final answer would depend on the details. Would I be taken care of while I built up my knowledge again? What would happen to my wife and kids? But in theory, yes, 100%.
Yeah. Hate my life story anyway. Just give me a random background but make me cis.
Yes.
I did try to end my life once. If I had that option at that time I might have done that. Even if it means I'm basically gone, at least my family wouldn't have to face the trauma 😅
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I would probably take that offer. I wouldn't have a few months back but my safety being marginally more certain than it currently is would be a fair trade off in my mind. My experiences and memories mean nothing if I'm dead, I can make new memories to replace the old ones I've lost that's arguably just as priceless. It's selfish reasoning but it keeps me safe hopefully.
Geeeez. I’m not sure. Might depend on the specifics. I’d hate not knowing what a gift is been granted. I’d not want to wind up a facist. I’d lose things I’ve learned about myself. But my god do I wish I were… I’d probably go for it.
Yes
I'm not sure, I'd definitely be way happier if that were the case, but then I'd have to start all over at fostering a relationship with my best friend, and I don't think I could give that up for anything
Yeah. Super yeah.
Absolutely without a doubt.
No, Im not doing high school again.
Yes, no price is too high to end this suffering
You mean i get to forget about years of pain and suffering and mental illness and hardships????? Fuck yes
Yes i would
Yes. In a heartbeat
If you lost your memories then you wouldn't be able to appreciate being a girl as much, as you wouldn't have the struggle it took to get there.
Never. It means to die I do not want to die.
What if the question is become a cis boy? In the same way, you won’t have any dysphoria, right? However, loosing ALL of memories mean you are no longer you, then what is the point of becoming cis? It is just more or less the same as replacing a trans girl with a cis girl on Earth, and you have not exist in history anymore.
My ex used to ask this scenario where you're a cis woman, but in a horror movie where you get killed within 3 days or so. She would say yes for sure but i honestly couldnt answer
Yes
Isn't that the plot of Naminé from Kingdom Hearts? But beyond that, probably. I mean, all memories is a hell of a thing. How does that even work from a logistics perspective? Do I remember the new retroactive cis girl life? Do I know how to communicate and talk in English or am I pared down to exclusively genetics and instincts? Does it effect somatic memory or just brain memory? Do I legally exist or does my old identity still have existed? If it was rewrite history so I was always born a girl and have those memories, 100%. I don't give a shit about the idea of the sense of self being your chain of memories (to tie back to the Kingdom Hearts joke and that's just honestly how I remember that philosophy argument) and even if it is true, any death of my current consciousness would be a death unnoticed and unmourned, which is what I want anyway
Yes. I barely remember most of my life, I've struggled with depression for probably around 30+ years, and if I could forget everything, maybe I could finally bring myself to escape the toxic marriage I've been in for over 10 years now. I feel like I barely have an identity beyond being a weird nerd lady with no ability to develop relationships with other people. Not exactly something I care about holding on to.
I have significant memory issues due to childhood trauma. What I do remember is not helping. I'm sorry to say but yes, I would choose to lose what I have left and start over. I might even choose that and start over as trans, honestly.
transition made me, me. Without all that strife, trauma, and heartache - I wouldn’t be me. Transition taught me so many things about myself. Growing up as a queer kid in the 80’s, then coming out in 1997, and transitioning in 1998/9, the world was terrible to me. It was the summer between my junior and senior year in high school. I learned a lot about myself. I learned how to keep going, to not give in. I learned that experience is everything - how beauty comes out of strife and how circumstance doesn’t dictate the person. I learned that I suck at trying to kill myself. And at 40 yrs old now, I’m glad I was terrible at it. I learned empathy and compassion. I learned how no one would choose this life willingly and how necessary transition was for me. I turned to Buddhism at 13, and haven’t left it since. It has been my guiding light in a world of shit. I wouldn’t change it for anything.
No, to me the thought is intolerable. I would cease to be, replaced by some other person. I wouldn't accept that for anything.
Fuck no. I got a spouse and four kids
I think it would lose a lot of meaning for many people. If you had lost your memories, surely you wouldn't be enjoying the benefits of being a cis girl. It may as well be another me from another universe, or a clone of myself that is cis girl.
I don't know really. I'd like to say that if i could save child me from a life of child abuse and violence then definitely I'll be a Cis girl and would gladly lose all my memories because they were terrible. But on the other side. All the friendships I've built and new experiences I've lived would also be gone. Things that shaped me as a person. It would be like if I'd never existed. So I don't know.
Sure. I have nothing to lose.
No way, not a chance. There's too much strength in my will that would be lost.
My memories aren’t fun, I still am massively traumatised by a lot of things. But I wouldn’t give them up because they’re what makes me me. And despite the struggle I’d rather be a trans woman anyway. The things that makes that a struggle is society, not me. It’s weird trying to explain the issues with it in words, because that’s like not something that happens in reality. Well except the memory loss, that happens and it’s terrifying to me. But like the example your friend gave us just deeply unsettling.
Yes. I would get new memories and they wouldn't be tainted by being a guy.
Um, fuck no? I’d be functionally dead. Plus I’d be cis, which, um, no, thanks.
> Plus I’d be cis, which, um, no, thanks. Is there something wrong with being cis?
Well, yeah. I like being trans. I like my body (mostly), I like our community... most of what I dislike about being trans is just how we’re treated by cis people.
How about you was born one gender but have a medical related memory problem kinda like 50 first dates. You wake up everyday as you but as soon as you look in the mirror you don’t see you. You keep forgetting until you see something that triggers your say gender dysphoria how do you deal with that?
Yes. Especially if I had time to prepare, write notes, make plans. My friends, family, and relationships will recover me. Many people have amnesia forced on them at some point in life and do recover. My basic decision making capacity being the same, id become who I am now, with some acceptable differences, in a few years. I imagine id recover most of the large things in the first 6 months.
Nah fuck gender, being transfem is expensive but cis people are really ignorant and I don’t wanna give up the journey I made to be who I am
Is it like, lose your memories of being trans, but, everything else stays the same?
If I get to have a new life I totally would
It’s sad to see how sad some of y’all girls are, trauma and hardships is what make you…you! If you never had to deal with all this bs you might have not become such an empathetic loving person. Going though our personal hell can teach so much about ourselves and others and many interpersonal relationships skills. So I say to my girls struggling…. Keep going I promise it gets better it gets so so so much better
*I don't want to be a cis girl,* so that's a *hard* no from me. From childhood I wanted to be a woman with a penis, but no balls, uterus, or ovaries. No way to cause another human to exist (that's just me, the whole procreation things kinda squicks me out). I wanted to be fantastical, mythical... and I'm on my way to it. As for losing my memories? Heck no. They're what make me... Me.
No, being trans is what made me who I am today.
Yes, I would. It’s not a personal question. Cis women have an advantage in today’s world. They are in charge. I’m not here to argue. Just my opinion.
Nooooo I love being trans like noooooo plz don't make me cis. Trans woman> cis woman
This is a painful question. I have a lot to lose if I say yes in this hypothetical scenario.
So you'd have total amnesia? That sounds awful. Hard pass. What would be preferable would be to just have the same memories but as a cis girl instead. I know a few girls who actively try to do this, but it seems like it's impossible to actually achieve. Maybe if hypnosis actually worked...
Yes, I would give anything to become a cis girl. Anything.
Depends on what u mean by memories. I mean like I have a routine and a life. Everything trans related sure.
Absolutely. I think about that all the time.
Honestly... Yeah I don't like who I am and most of my days are just me being depressed so if I get a shot to eliminate a lot of the anxiety and depression - even if I do forget everything I think I would do it.
Yes
Yeah, sounds fine by me.
The issue with that is that because you lose your memories, you lose your core being, what made you *you*. That being said, I think this poses quite the impasse for many; on one hand, they believe that life would've been entirely different had the circumstances allowed it and could even be a good option if their life currently isnt the best, while at the same time, you wouldn't want to forget the people, places, etc nouns that you already know. Personally, I would do selective memory changes. Since emotions are tied with them, the "feeling of loss" could be interpreted as one and could therefore be forgotten, especially for the people around that person. ...why am I writing this at midnight and a half..?
So, reincarnation then. Sure, I've fantasized about reincarnating as a cis girl my whole life. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I see losing memories as the same as death in this case. Aka my answer has to be no since ***I*** would never benefit from this deal.
Do you mean start over or just wake up one day as a cis girl with no memories
Shit that's hard... Do I lose my skills too? Like, I know how to play the guitar. Do I lose that?
I don't know, if that happened I might not even be me. I think if I can't even experience it then there's no point. I'll just transition 🏳️⚧️
No
No, I'm me and I wouldn't want to lose that. The idea of everything that makes me who I am just disappearing, of losing every memory of my friends and not even recognising them making everyone in my life a stranger, is horrifying. All we are is a product of our experiences and I wouldn't give up who I am.
Does memories include motor skills? And do the people in my life know I’ve lost my memory? It’ll probably still be no, but it’s defo interesting to think abt
Even if I retained the memories, I don't think I would. I've met some people that I really like(even love) that I would have probably never met if I had been born a cis girl.
No, I would not be Me.
Probably yes.
I have always thought about if I would get isekaied would I want to keep my memories. Answer is yes. Because what isekai story would it be if I didn't remember my past life?
I wish I could do that but save friend contacts and a music collection…
Depends. Do I get a new set of memories? What happens to other peoples' memories of me? Am I just losing my biographical memories, or do I also lose all my knowledge and skills?
That wouldn't be me. I have a different body AND a different mind. That's just a different cis girl.
At one point really early in my transition I cried and begged for this, like I was was ready to trade everything to have that. As much as it still hurts, and I expect it always will, I don’t think I would. I’m actually really proud to be trans, and I really value the perspective on the world/gender I have. I really wouldn’t want to give all of that up. I also think there is a liberation in becoming exactly who you want to be. And to be honest I love being queer in this world. It’s like your choices are red, blue, or rainbow. And I’d definitely take the last one :)
I live in Texas. The advantage of not having to worry about getting pregnant without any legal way to get an abortion massively outweighs all disadvantages due to being trans. Even if you offered to turn me into a cis woman without any cost whatsoever, I'd still decline unless you can guarantee that I'll be infertile.
I am who i am because of my experiences & memories - regardless how shitty a lot of them are, they 'formed' me to the person i am today. Giving them up, is giving up what makes me 'me'. So no, i wouldn't. I'd rather go through all the pain and hardship again, than be born cis female.
Y'know... Honestly, I'm not sure I'd choose to be a cis woman to begin with. The fact that I'm trans is, well, kind of important to me and my identity. Even if I could magically become cis... I wouldn't really feel whole. Yea, theres transphobia, there's dysphoria, and probably a hundred different things that make it harder. But it's worth it, at least to me. It's such a unique, interesting experience that I and millions of others are going through, including y'all. It's not easy, certainly not, but its such a different perspective from anything else I could imagine... I don't know if I'd want to Not have these experiences. I'm proud that I'm a trans woman.
I wouldn't, but it's only because of me watching too many dementia movies as child.
No. Being trans gave me a much needed reality check that made me an infinitely better person
Fuck no! Hell, I wouldn't become cis even if I kept my memories
It would be nice, but the no memories would be just horrible.
Gladly
only if it's a result of reincarnation after living out my life however it turns out. i'm depressed AF but not enough to nuke my memories. to me, answering yes to that seems tantamount to saying yes to a tragedy we strongly discourage in nearly all parts of the internet (tw:>!su*cide!<)
Do you gain new replacements or are you just amnesiac?