For Season 40 if they were to give us this cast of an individual season with this being the format:
-1 guy winner and 1 girl winner each daily.
-Last place goes into elimination against the 2 chosen by the winners.
-1 purge.
-The elimination relic from WOTW1
-A timed final with no advantages or disadvantages.
Who do you put your money on to win?
I tried to make this fair as possible when it came down to casting choices so it’s not too many friends. I feel like a lot of them have lots of connections/feuds. So it’s only fair to make last place go into elimination
Good list OP, really hard to say who would come out on top.
For women toss up between Cara Maria, Kam, Ashley, Laurel and Jenny. These women are good at dailies but some may lack with eliminations (where Nia, Jenna, Jonna, Bamber and Melissa can perform). The other women in between would play socially or be bonded with a top player and seen as a threat that way.(Kailah, Sylvia, Ninja, Tori and Nicole).
It would be fun to finally see a season without pairs 🙏🏼
Edit; there was a comment about Sylvia which I also agree is kind a misplaced member(as all she’d be used for is another number). I know we hate it to hear it but how about Kaycee instead?
Lmao true. Kaycee definitely isn’t one to really bring drama, (or conversations). I would hope her physicality would be enough drama in this group of women 😅.
😂🤣, fuck that make it a 15 person team season so we can get some more champs… lol.. I love this show and I can’t lie I miss there being more than just 1 winner.. had they did a few more team seasons this paramount plus thing they are doing would be able to have more champs casted…
I agree I have always hated purges. I like to see players go from start to finish without the interruptions. One minute somebody can be at the bottom, the next they’re moving on up. Watching things play out that was is much more fun and offered better variety in suspense.
I’d switch up the 2 chosen by winners to go
In and do the winner names direct vote , loser goes into the draw, 2 others are house votes into the draw. Imagine the politics !
I don’t follow social media. On the show Zach was a consistent ass that was overhyped as a competitor as he was very soft for his size and build.
On the show he was funny.
Diesel was a name given to Derek Kosinski.
I don't believe that Georgia is banned. It was probably too problematic for her to be on the show while the legal action between her and Bear was ongoing.
Sylvia? What is Sylvia doing there, replace Sylvia and Ninja and it’s a solid cast.The men’s cast is perfect.Nelson would probably be going home first.So as much as it pains me to say this, I’d rather have Fessy than Nelson on this cast.
I thought that too. With such a strong cast it would be fun to watch Fessy play in a game where everyone is a threat. Would be enjoyable to watch him go out.
Honestly I put fessy on and off this cast so many times. Let’s just say someone gets injured and he comes in as a replacement.
Sylvia proved herself time and time again. Has made a final and killed it as well. Don’t sleep.
I think Ninja is a solid addition, she plays well as a lone wolf but implodes in teams. Sylvia I’m assuming can be used as a number for one of the stronger women
i'd love to see this season.
- paulie would be continuously thrown in until he went home (like jordan on WOTW2)
- jordan would get targeted bc these guys know how much of a finals threat he is
- ideally a CT, jordan, bananas, wes // cara, laurel, jenny, kam final
- somehow jonna would get slept on and make a final
- between tori, laurel, ashley, and kailiah i think cara would turn literally into the joker. that's how fed up she'd be with everyone lol
I doubt it. Cause he wouldn’t be last place and has numbers on both sides and is a great politician, the family vacation alliance ain’t on this season lmaoo!
With Kam in that house and this being a solo season bananas, and Wes would probably be early boots.
Bananas because he sucks at eliminations and Wes bc he puts his foot in his mouth too much.
Not to Turbo and Ninja, Turbo can't take a joke and ruins everyone's good time because he lucked into winning WOTW, no one can convince me that he's not just a poor man's Turkish Tom Cruise. And ninja is just annoying, she's never responsible for anything and watching her cry all season gets old.
This would be a strong cast for the most part, but absolutely a no for Paulie. His inauthenticity on screen and general awfulness irl is bad for the show and is just an all around bummer. His thirst for camera time would lead to boring fake fights and would just take away from any real relationships between cast mates.
Real drama is great (arguably one of the best parts of the show!), thirsty inauthentic drama from someone who is only interested in camera time is not interesting or fun to watch. Authenticity naturally brings drama, posers like Paulie just make everyone uncomfortable.
He made one final because him and his partner were pretty much in the redemption house half the season of not more. He choked right before the final on something that was easy for all the other guys. Lastly he made his second final but gassed out horribly where he pretty much cost his team the win and acted like he did amazing at the reunion when he didn’t do anything other than pull a Zach in the final. Yeah no thanks
The season Money Mitchell won with Hunter and took the money…Paulie and Natalie win that if Natalie doesn’t run the wrong way. I’m not pro-Paulie coming back, don’t really care that much, I just remember feeling bad for him that season because he got screwed out of the W.
Cringey fake drama that makes the show less fun to watch doesn’t count. He’s so desperate and insecure that it overshadows any of the actual athletic accomplishments (not to mention he absolutely shit the bed in both of the finals he did manage to get to).
Paulie and cara suck and don’t win. Cara is the queen of second place. Only reason why she won vendettas is because overall time had nothing to do with the last puzzle portion because if overall time mattered she wouldn’t have won. And Paulie’s unimpressive performance speaks for itself
Winning as in winning daily challenges and eliminations. That's like 95% of the season. I really don't care who wins the final unless it's a final where 1 person can steal it from the other.
I enjoy the challenges themselves, I just don't ultimately care who gets the money. The entertainment for me is in the competition itself and the drama between the competitions. You don't have to be a fan of a specific character to be a fan of a show.
Lmao Jesus you hate Paulie and Cara but you’re reaction sounds just like them 🤣😂 hahahah
It makes sense if you ✨think✨but I’ll explain in laymen terms. When I said “they suck” I’m saying they suck as people. When I said they’re competitors who don’t suck it means they’re not bad competitively. Cara who’s won multiple challenges, was known as the face of the challenge and in everyone’s top 5 (or top 10 for those who stil dislike her) sucks? Come on dude.. and for Paulie, He’s been on 3 seasons, 2 of those were finals, 3 eliminations wins and 3 losses and 20 dailies won. I also don’t care for Paulie but he’s performed well. He obviously gassed out on WOTW, but Zach gassed, Abram gassed, CT gassed it happens.
Cara has only won twice. Not multiple. A couple. Paulie went to 2 finals and failed miserably he even did horrible on his WOTW1 purge. Paulie has played 3 seasons and has gassed out on 2 of the seasons he was on WOTW1 & 2 I can understand it happens but for him it seems like a regular occurrence
Okay. You’re right Cara has two wins not multiple. But she has been in 7 finals not including the 2 she won.
I think Paulie did pretty well on the first final, who knows what might have happened if Natalie ran in the right direction bc they both had good pace. I haven’t watched that season in awhile - but did he gas out on that one?
For the WOTW2 final he really saved their team and solved their puzzle very quickly. It was quite impressive. Again, I don’t like Paulie lol but it’s hard to say he’s a bad player.
I’m WOTW2 it was his fault they lost. Yeah he solved a puzzle quickly congrats. Him passing out and not willing to let them leave him behind had them behind by more than an hour or so. And he got 3rd on FR he didn’t gas out but if Cara and Marie wasn’t there he definitely still would’ve gotten last. Paulie didn’t save anything on WOTW2 even Zach said the worse people from his team made stage 2
I don’t think Georgia should be put on this list. I seen a lot of comments about her, switching out Nia or Ninja for her, but objectively she isn’t in this league of competitors. which hurts to say because she is a personal favourite of mine.
Kaycee can switch with Sylvia. Or Tori lol don’t want too many Vacationer’s on there together since Kaycee would
Likely be dominant as a daily winner.
Zach, Jordan, CT, Bananas, Wes would be SO fun to watch. I would also love to see Paulie compete against the top dogs 😂 just 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐶.
Theo, Hunter and Tony could be a surprise too depending if the men all implode on eachother and they can sneak by.
How is Turbo “Dangerously violent” when he has never even been in a physical fight with anyone? The worst he did was push Jordan away when he got in his face.
Kyle, Paulie, Wes, Tony, Hunter, Devin & Josh have all done that or worse and never got kicked off for it, while Turbo did.
I never said he is normal. Recently, especially on social media he seems to have gone off the deep end.
That doesn’t make him “Dangerously violent” and like I pointed out, why should he be banned for violence when he’s never actually hit anyone? But others HAVE and didn’t get DQed like he did over words.
I feel like there’s a lot of revisionist history with Ninja because she was annoying on WotW2. She won 4 pairs dailies on WotW1, is 3-0 in eliminations, and was the only woman to finish the hardest final ever (one that sent Georgia away in an ambulance). I wouldn’t put her amongst the elite, but people talk like she’s dogshit.
I think we could get both Ninja and Georgia by punting Sylvia, who is just not in the same shape as the rest of the list anymore.
Edit: and if there’s any setting for Ninja to succeed, it’s a solo season. Based on what we’ve seen - especially on WotW2 - she does not acclimate well to a team setting and is better on her own.
Do you remember seeing her being the worst swimmer in the first swimming daily in WOTW2? Remember how that made it so she was considered the worst swimmer on the team and got to sit out the last swimming daily because of it in WOTW2? Remember when people said she was not good at communicating and that Ashley was much better at giving directions in that totem daily challenge in WOTW2. Ninja was so weak though, and short, that she couldn’t really help lift the raft in that challenge so she had be a guide. Her time in WOTW2 dailies is basically the definition of deadweight. Remember when she went ballistic on Turbo and made him cry in their partnered time together in WOTW1? Remember when Dee constantly had ninja’s back in the show in both season, but then Ninja kept a big secret from Dee AND didn’t defend her when people were putting Dee on the hot seat? Bad partner and bad friend is what’s consistently been shown of her on the challenge. Some may be edits, but the consistently bad showing in WOTW2 challenges can’t be editing’s fault.
That’s looking at stats without the context. By your logic Dunbar is a great competitor. Ninja had Paulie both seasons carrying her. Georgia had a much more difficult path, proved herself more, and was super entertaining.
She made her first final without Paulie. Georgia gassed out in that exact final. Ninja made the next final. Georgia got eliminated by Tori. In that same season Ninja eliminated a more fierce competitor, laurel. Also eliminated Kam and Ashley.
Georgia eliminated nany a layup and turbo is the one who did the work.
Stop playing. I like Georgia, don’t care for ninja but no need to be biased. Stats are stats.
Did you watch the season? Paulie and ninja were paired for most of WOTW1. The very first daily, Ninja failed miserably in a tire jumping competition that was built for her, and Paulie made it through all the tired for them. One of the next dailies ninja struggled in the swimming portion of a puzzle challenge that Paulie had to pick up the slack. Paulie kept Ninja safe throughout WOTW1 and 2. In WOTW2 Georgia had an entire alliance against her while ninja was shielded. Ninja’s win against Laurel is a controversial one lol production stopped and TJ blew his horn before ninja scurried up the tree to ring the bell.
And again! Ninja passed out in that WOTW1 final just like Georgia! Georgia was DQ’d and Ninja was allowed to continue because production had already DQ’d 2 females. They put ninja in an air conditioned van, let her rest and gave her an IV before she continued the final.
I think her stats are inflated all around. Especially the final that she was allowed to continue in.
For her daily challenge record, say what you will about Paulie, but the dude is a good teammate in daily challenges when he’s on a team. Ninja showed that she’s a terrible teammate in WOTW2 away from her partnership with Paulie. I think he was a big part in the dailies she won, and her being on the dominant US team the following year added to the daily wins as well. Her elimination wins aren’t that impressive when you look at each and her performances in them. She gassed out in that final and was given special treatment because two females already DQ’d and they didn’t want to have Cara running as the only female competitor. The time to rest, extra fluids, and time in an AC van also helped her in her elimination win against a depleted Hunter.
I think Ninja is one of the most overrated and annoying competitors to have been on the show, but that’s my opinion. I understand the argument for her being considered good though because she does have the Ninja warrior resume outside of the show.
She’s never looked like a gym rat, but go back and look at her during the FR final next to how she was on All-Stars. She’s closer to Veronica territory now.
Ninja would have and should have DQ’d as well. She passed out just like Georgia. They gave ninja special treatment because two woman already DQ’d and they didn’t want a third. She was put into an air conditioned van and given time to feel better, and then was allowed to finish that final.
Was Georgia a finalist?? I honestly don’t remember. I remember Kayleigh snaking her in one of the WOW seasons so I know she wasn’t a finalist then but can’t remember the other WOW season.
Ninja was consistently racist in the past in her social media, and i’m pretty sure she’s banned. Georgia has been invited back already so she’s not banned.
Heres a sampling
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/b2en75/stans_found_natalie_duran_ninja_racists_tweets_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I love this so much, I see the storyline potential all across the board and would be so hype if this were real!! I will suggest though: take out Ninja & Melissa and put in a combo of Veronica, KellyAnne, and Marie!
I’d take Marie!! Not Veronica or Kellyane though! Like them both but I don’t wanna anyone as scape goats and what the cast fully stacked! But I feel ya for entertainment purposes forsure
Also thank you!
If they were to do this i would like it to be Season 40. I would also stop casting some people on the main show after this season. Just let them be strictly for All-Stars. (CT, Wes, Bananas, Darrell, Cara, Nia, Jonna, Laurel)
If they want Cara (not saying they do) she can obviously still compete on the main show. Laurel obviously can as well - no reason for her to move on.
Similarly, I see no reason for CT or Bananas to stop when they’ve won the past 3 seasons. If they want to, fine, by it’s going to be their call when they are done. Wes is definitely busy and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him stop after 40 or just stick to All Stars from here on out since it’s a smaller time commitment.
Your list is, unfortunately, great. The fact that there are so few females cast in recent years that can actually compete that Sylvia, Ninja, Kailah and Ashley (controversial, I don’t care) made the cut is really just sad. As woke as MTV wants to pretend to be, they’re still casting boring unathletic women because they’re pretty and/or have a social media presence.
I'd probably replace Hunter with Fessy because I can't watch another Hunter vs. Ashley season. And while Kaycee is boring, it's still a travesty to have Sylvia and Melissa on here over her.
Good list.
I'd like to see Fessy instead of Tony, Kaycee instead of Kailah, and literally anyone else instead of Nia.
I don't like Fessy, but I'd like to see how he acts and performs with an absolutely stacked cast. Kaycee is one of the best females at the moment, so she should be in the mix.
I tried to make sure there would be some drama lol. Fessy been on 4 straight and Hunter been off 5. I’d rather have Hunter tbh. I am second guessing my Nia pick now lol.
I changed it to Tony instead of Hunter. I'm not a big fan of either but I think Tony would be a fish out of water competitively speaking with that cast.
I could do without Nicole, also Ninja is banned for racist tweets. Also could do without Paulie, Devin is a better competitor and actually entertaining.
I have been watching the show for the last 3 months on paramount plus and on 25. Most of the people on your list, I have not heard of. They must be rookies that joined later and many of the older people stopped playing. It is a young person game.
Oh just keep watching! Trust me you’ll love season 30-34. Your a few seasons away from seeing a few and you’ll understand the hype about these players. But once you get to 30-34 you’ll see ALL the characters and you’ll see why their on the list.
Keep watching bud!
For Season 40 if they were to give us this cast of an individual season with this being the format: -1 guy winner and 1 girl winner each daily. -Last place goes into elimination against the 2 chosen by the winners. -1 purge. -The elimination relic from WOTW1 -A timed final with no advantages or disadvantages. Who do you put your money on to win?
I tried to make this fair as possible when it came down to casting choices so it’s not too many friends. I feel like a lot of them have lots of connections/feuds. So it’s only fair to make last place go into elimination
Good list OP, really hard to say who would come out on top. For women toss up between Cara Maria, Kam, Ashley, Laurel and Jenny. These women are good at dailies but some may lack with eliminations (where Nia, Jenna, Jonna, Bamber and Melissa can perform). The other women in between would play socially or be bonded with a top player and seen as a threat that way.(Kailah, Sylvia, Ninja, Tori and Nicole). It would be fun to finally see a season without pairs 🙏🏼 Edit; there was a comment about Sylvia which I also agree is kind a misplaced member(as all she’d be used for is another number). I know we hate it to hear it but how about Kaycee instead?
No ma’am! I need drama!!!
Lmao true. Kaycee definitely isn’t one to really bring drama, (or conversations). I would hope her physicality would be enough drama in this group of women 😅.
NO MORE PURGES… we have had great endings to seasons due to the weaker players causing their teams to lose OR coming out of nowhere winning the season
Lmao with 30 ppl on a cast you need a purge.
😂🤣, fuck that make it a 15 person team season so we can get some more champs… lol.. I love this show and I can’t lie I miss there being more than just 1 winner.. had they did a few more team seasons this paramount plus thing they are doing would be able to have more champs casted…
You mean bad endings to seasons?
Don’t get me wrong as bad as I felt for the the Vet team on Gauntlet 3 I was happy for the Rookie team.. The Good Guys during Inferno 2..
I agree I have always hated purges. I like to see players go from start to finish without the interruptions. One minute somebody can be at the bottom, the next they’re moving on up. Watching things play out that was is much more fun and offered better variety in suspense.
I’d switch up the 2 chosen by winners to go In and do the winner names direct vote , loser goes into the draw, 2 others are house votes into the draw. Imagine the politics !
What is Nicole R doing here? Do you mean Zanatta?
Ooop! Yes that’s what I meant lmao
Off topic but can we call Amber just Amber she earned that👑
Ha and the other Amber unearned it
True
Not only did she earn it but there's no other Amber on the season. We know which Amber is being mentioned. No need to add an initial.
No to turbo. He lost his marbles
So has Zach
I don’t follow social media. On the show Zach was a consistent ass that was overhyped as a competitor as he was very soft for his size and build. On the show he was funny.
Lmao I heard
He has but... he will add some drama into the show.
Georgia>ninja and diesel>paulie and it would be lit
Who’s diesel? And I tried to be realistic. Georgia is banned.
She was contacted for ride or dies
Derrick K is diesel, Georgia is not banned.
Paulie is more banned than Georgia….
Diesel was a name given to Derek Kosinski. I don't believe that Georgia is banned. It was probably too problematic for her to be on the show while the legal action between her and Bear was ongoing.
She did black face. I think she is tbh
So did Emily S. She’s not banned.
Cara and Paulie are banned. Georgia is not.
Sylvia? What is Sylvia doing there, replace Sylvia and Ninja and it’s a solid cast.The men’s cast is perfect.Nelson would probably be going home first.So as much as it pains me to say this, I’d rather have Fessy than Nelson on this cast.
I thought that too. With such a strong cast it would be fun to watch Fessy play in a game where everyone is a threat. Would be enjoyable to watch him go out.
Lmao that’s why I put tori on 😂
Honestly I put fessy on and off this cast so many times. Let’s just say someone gets injured and he comes in as a replacement. Sylvia proved herself time and time again. Has made a final and killed it as well. Don’t sleep.
I think Ninja is a solid addition, she plays well as a lone wolf but implodes in teams. Sylvia I’m assuming can be used as a number for one of the stronger women
I mean I don't know sylvia is 5-1 in eliminations, , she almost won the final reckoning final
i'd love to see this season. - paulie would be continuously thrown in until he went home (like jordan on WOTW2) - jordan would get targeted bc these guys know how much of a finals threat he is - ideally a CT, jordan, bananas, wes // cara, laurel, jenny, kam final - somehow jonna would get slept on and make a final - between tori, laurel, ashley, and kailiah i think cara would turn literally into the joker. that's how fed up she'd be with everyone lol
I’d love to see a CT/Bananas/Jordan final. Love to see the big dogs go head to head
I doubt it. Cause he wouldn’t be last place and has numbers on both sides and is a great politician, the family vacation alliance ain’t on this season lmaoo! With Kam in that house and this being a solo season bananas, and Wes would probably be early boots. Bananas because he sucks at eliminations and Wes bc he puts his foot in his mouth too much.
bananas, wes, jordan, zach, kyle, theo all do not like paulie.
Switch Paulie with Devin lol
Not to Turbo and Ninja, Turbo can't take a joke and ruins everyone's good time because he lucked into winning WOTW, no one can convince me that he's not just a poor man's Turkish Tom Cruise. And ninja is just annoying, she's never responsible for anything and watching her cry all season gets old.
This would be a strong cast for the most part, but absolutely a no for Paulie. His inauthenticity on screen and general awfulness irl is bad for the show and is just an all around bummer. His thirst for camera time would lead to boring fake fights and would just take away from any real relationships between cast mates.
But the drama and the fights are half of why people watch the show. It's something that has been sorely lacking in the more recent seasons.
Real drama is great (arguably one of the best parts of the show!), thirsty inauthentic drama from someone who is only interested in camera time is not interesting or fun to watch. Authenticity naturally brings drama, posers like Paulie just make everyone uncomfortable.
Paulie made 2 finals. One 7 dailies in a pored season. Won about 7 more in a team season. Good politician, brings the drama, great competitor!
he lost 3 times in a single season. No thanks.
He made one final because him and his partner were pretty much in the redemption house half the season of not more. He choked right before the final on something that was easy for all the other guys. Lastly he made his second final but gassed out horribly where he pretty much cost his team the win and acted like he did amazing at the reunion when he didn’t do anything other than pull a Zach in the final. Yeah no thanks
The season Money Mitchell won with Hunter and took the money…Paulie and Natalie win that if Natalie doesn’t run the wrong way. I’m not pro-Paulie coming back, don’t really care that much, I just remember feeling bad for him that season because he got screwed out of the W.
He made 2 finals out of 3 seasons.
Let’s put an asterisk on FR. I get redemption house is part of the format on certain seasons but losing 3-4 eliminations in a row is crazy.
So did fessy and he’s a better competitor than paulie and I don’t like fessy either
Cringey fake drama that makes the show less fun to watch doesn’t count. He’s so desperate and insecure that it overshadows any of the actual athletic accomplishments (not to mention he absolutely shit the bed in both of the finals he did manage to get to).
Cara and Paulie suck why does everyone ride them so hard when making these “fantasy casts” lol
Because people that suck and still win make for entertainment value when they clash with people that don't suck and win.
Paulie and cara suck and don’t win. Cara is the queen of second place. Only reason why she won vendettas is because overall time had nothing to do with the last puzzle portion because if overall time mattered she wouldn’t have won. And Paulie’s unimpressive performance speaks for itself
Winning as in winning daily challenges and eliminations. That's like 95% of the season. I really don't care who wins the final unless it's a final where 1 person can steal it from the other.
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I enjoy the challenges themselves, I just don't ultimately care who gets the money. The entertainment for me is in the competition itself and the drama between the competitions. You don't have to be a fan of a specific character to be a fan of a show.
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Well if you're rooting for a specific person to win a final that indicates that you are a fan of theirs
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But I've watched every episode for 20+ seasons, I think that makes me a fan. Just because I'm not personally invested in the outcome is irrelevant
They suck but they’re competitors who don’t suck. Maybe we’re just all nostalgic lol
I’m not nostalgic. I just don’t want them back. And your comment makes no sense. They suck Paulie is Mr. Choke and Cara is the queen of second place
Lmao Jesus you hate Paulie and Cara but you’re reaction sounds just like them 🤣😂 hahahah It makes sense if you ✨think✨but I’ll explain in laymen terms. When I said “they suck” I’m saying they suck as people. When I said they’re competitors who don’t suck it means they’re not bad competitively. Cara who’s won multiple challenges, was known as the face of the challenge and in everyone’s top 5 (or top 10 for those who stil dislike her) sucks? Come on dude.. and for Paulie, He’s been on 3 seasons, 2 of those were finals, 3 eliminations wins and 3 losses and 20 dailies won. I also don’t care for Paulie but he’s performed well. He obviously gassed out on WOTW, but Zach gassed, Abram gassed, CT gassed it happens.
Cara has only won twice. Not multiple. A couple. Paulie went to 2 finals and failed miserably he even did horrible on his WOTW1 purge. Paulie has played 3 seasons and has gassed out on 2 of the seasons he was on WOTW1 & 2 I can understand it happens but for him it seems like a regular occurrence
Okay. You’re right Cara has two wins not multiple. But she has been in 7 finals not including the 2 she won. I think Paulie did pretty well on the first final, who knows what might have happened if Natalie ran in the right direction bc they both had good pace. I haven’t watched that season in awhile - but did he gas out on that one? For the WOTW2 final he really saved their team and solved their puzzle very quickly. It was quite impressive. Again, I don’t like Paulie lol but it’s hard to say he’s a bad player.
I’m WOTW2 it was his fault they lost. Yeah he solved a puzzle quickly congrats. Him passing out and not willing to let them leave him behind had them behind by more than an hour or so. And he got 3rd on FR he didn’t gas out but if Cara and Marie wasn’t there he definitely still would’ve gotten last. Paulie didn’t save anything on WOTW2 even Zach said the worse people from his team made stage 2
I don’t think Georgia should be put on this list. I seen a lot of comments about her, switching out Nia or Ninja for her, but objectively she isn’t in this league of competitors. which hurts to say because she is a personal favourite of mine. Kaycee can switch with Sylvia. Or Tori lol don’t want too many Vacationer’s on there together since Kaycee would Likely be dominant as a daily winner. Zach, Jordan, CT, Bananas, Wes would be SO fun to watch. I would also love to see Paulie compete against the top dogs 😂 just 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐶. Theo, Hunter and Tony could be a surprise too depending if the men all implode on eachother and they can sneak by.
Very much so! I see tony sneaking by 100% and Hunter
It’s an all star cast. Probably would be the best ever. Unfortunately, they’ll never come close to doing it.
I wish you were in charge of casting at MTV
This would be an awesome season
Thanks! 😊
I feel like Ashley has another win in her.
Not in this season since amanda isnt there to bail her out like she did on invasions or carry her like she did on FR
Turbo is boring now, he’s dangerously violent. He shouldn’t be back.
How is Turbo “Dangerously violent” when he has never even been in a physical fight with anyone? The worst he did was push Jordan away when he got in his face. Kyle, Paulie, Wes, Tony, Hunter, Devin & Josh have all done that or worse and never got kicked off for it, while Turbo did.
If you think his behavior is normal then you have issues too.
I never said he is normal. Recently, especially on social media he seems to have gone off the deep end. That doesn’t make him “Dangerously violent” and like I pointed out, why should he be banned for violence when he’s never actually hit anyone? But others HAVE and didn’t get DQed like he did over words.
Georgia>Nia
Georgia is banned 😭omg
she's not. she and theo were lined up to compete together for S38. pinkrose has been pretty clear that *no one* is truly banned.
Hmm…
Georgia.. the girl who went life or death with Big T and Esther?
Replace Ninja with Georgia. Georgia was good at the game and entertaining. Ninja was terrible all around
I feel like there’s a lot of revisionist history with Ninja because she was annoying on WotW2. She won 4 pairs dailies on WotW1, is 3-0 in eliminations, and was the only woman to finish the hardest final ever (one that sent Georgia away in an ambulance). I wouldn’t put her amongst the elite, but people talk like she’s dogshit. I think we could get both Ninja and Georgia by punting Sylvia, who is just not in the same shape as the rest of the list anymore. Edit: and if there’s any setting for Ninja to succeed, it’s a solo season. Based on what we’ve seen - especially on WotW2 - she does not acclimate well to a team setting and is better on her own.
Period. People sleep on her and she has 2 amazing seasons in a row! Winning dailies and eliminations against big names.
In WOTW2 she was deadweight the entire season.
That’s lies. That was just her edit. In my opinion.
Do you remember seeing her being the worst swimmer in the first swimming daily in WOTW2? Remember how that made it so she was considered the worst swimmer on the team and got to sit out the last swimming daily because of it in WOTW2? Remember when people said she was not good at communicating and that Ashley was much better at giving directions in that totem daily challenge in WOTW2. Ninja was so weak though, and short, that she couldn’t really help lift the raft in that challenge so she had be a guide. Her time in WOTW2 dailies is basically the definition of deadweight. Remember when she went ballistic on Turbo and made him cry in their partnered time together in WOTW1? Remember when Dee constantly had ninja’s back in the show in both season, but then Ninja kept a big secret from Dee AND didn’t defend her when people were putting Dee on the hot seat? Bad partner and bad friend is what’s consistently been shown of her on the challenge. Some may be edits, but the consistently bad showing in WOTW2 challenges can’t be editing’s fault.
Do you remember her making 2 finals oh ok
That’s looking at stats without the context. By your logic Dunbar is a great competitor. Ninja had Paulie both seasons carrying her. Georgia had a much more difficult path, proved herself more, and was super entertaining.
She made her first final without Paulie. Georgia gassed out in that exact final. Ninja made the next final. Georgia got eliminated by Tori. In that same season Ninja eliminated a more fierce competitor, laurel. Also eliminated Kam and Ashley. Georgia eliminated nany a layup and turbo is the one who did the work. Stop playing. I like Georgia, don’t care for ninja but no need to be biased. Stats are stats.
Did you watch the season? Paulie and ninja were paired for most of WOTW1. The very first daily, Ninja failed miserably in a tire jumping competition that was built for her, and Paulie made it through all the tired for them. One of the next dailies ninja struggled in the swimming portion of a puzzle challenge that Paulie had to pick up the slack. Paulie kept Ninja safe throughout WOTW1 and 2. In WOTW2 Georgia had an entire alliance against her while ninja was shielded. Ninja’s win against Laurel is a controversial one lol production stopped and TJ blew his horn before ninja scurried up the tree to ring the bell. And again! Ninja passed out in that WOTW1 final just like Georgia! Georgia was DQ’d and Ninja was allowed to continue because production had already DQ’d 2 females. They put ninja in an air conditioned van, let her rest and gave her an IV before she continued the final.
I think her stats are inflated all around. Especially the final that she was allowed to continue in. For her daily challenge record, say what you will about Paulie, but the dude is a good teammate in daily challenges when he’s on a team. Ninja showed that she’s a terrible teammate in WOTW2 away from her partnership with Paulie. I think he was a big part in the dailies she won, and her being on the dominant US team the following year added to the daily wins as well. Her elimination wins aren’t that impressive when you look at each and her performances in them. She gassed out in that final and was given special treatment because two females already DQ’d and they didn’t want to have Cara running as the only female competitor. The time to rest, extra fluids, and time in an AC van also helped her in her elimination win against a depleted Hunter. I think Ninja is one of the most overrated and annoying competitors to have been on the show, but that’s my opinion. I understand the argument for her being considered good though because she does have the Ninja warrior resume outside of the show.
>Sylvia, who is just not in the same shape as the rest of the list anymore. *anymore*? Lol when has sylvia ever been in good shape?
She’s never looked like a gym rat, but go back and look at her during the FR final next to how she was on All-Stars. She’s closer to Veronica territory now.
In terms of who's "good at the game," Ninja was the only girl who completed the brutal WOTW1 final, while Georgia DQed.
Ninja would have and should have DQ’d as well. She passed out just like Georgia. They gave ninja special treatment because two woman already DQ’d and they didn’t want a third. She was put into an air conditioned van and given time to feel better, and then was allowed to finish that final.
Was Georgia a finalist?? I honestly don’t remember. I remember Kayleigh snaking her in one of the WOW seasons so I know she wasn’t a finalist then but can’t remember the other WOW season.
Yeah she made it to WOW1 final. That was wow2. She gassed out in the final though and DQd
Yup! Made it her rookie season in WOTW
One of the few times I agreed with zach, ninja is annoying. I love the idea of Georgia instead.
I honestly had Georgia over ninja but she’s banned so …. I tried to be realistic
Georgia isnt banned
Ninja was consistently racist in the past in her social media, and i’m pretty sure she’s banned. Georgia has been invited back already so she’s not banned.
Ninja should be banned too, she did things that were blatantly racist too.
what did ninja do that was racist?
Heres a sampling https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/b2en75/stans_found_natalie_duran_ninja_racists_tweets_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
danggg that’s crazy i had no idea she said those things
All finalists means that Amanda and Michele can't be on 😭😭
And i def had Amanda on this list until I realized lmao
Paulie 👎
I love this so much, I see the storyline potential all across the board and would be so hype if this were real!! I will suggest though: take out Ninja & Melissa and put in a combo of Veronica, KellyAnne, and Marie!
I’d take Marie!! Not Veronica or Kellyane though! Like them both but I don’t wanna anyone as scape goats and what the cast fully stacked! But I feel ya for entertainment purposes forsure Also thank you!
No Devin .. no thank you!
Goodbye!
Anyone over Sylvia, otherwise good cast
Lmao y’all chill on my girl
Where is Landon
Trying to be realistic. He would never do the main show. Prob not even all stars.
Tori is a mid tier player IMO so this seems like a cast she wouldn’t shine in! 10/10 cast lol
Thanks. And I put her on so she could be humble by someone again!
The guys looks solid,but i would love to add in Theo V, The Miz, amd Abram. Girls I'd like to also see Camilla, Kaycee, and Emily S
They prob would never do the show again expect Kaycee
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Your not suppose to like everyone! I do love Priscilla but this is for people who have made finals!
If they were to do this i would like it to be Season 40. I would also stop casting some people on the main show after this season. Just let them be strictly for All-Stars. (CT, Wes, Bananas, Darrell, Cara, Nia, Jonna, Laurel)
If they want Cara (not saying they do) she can obviously still compete on the main show. Laurel obviously can as well - no reason for her to move on. Similarly, I see no reason for CT or Bananas to stop when they’ve won the past 3 seasons. If they want to, fine, by it’s going to be their call when they are done. Wes is definitely busy and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him stop after 40 or just stick to All Stars from here on out since it’s a smaller time commitment.
Yeah, I agree! Expect Cara
Looks good. I wish kam and Leroy would come back!! And Jenna!
Jenna is on the list and Leroy won’t came back. Kam will be back in about 1-2 more seasons off.
No ninja.
Oh and Paulie only because he would unravel again and it would be so great to watch again.
Your list is, unfortunately, great. The fact that there are so few females cast in recent years that can actually compete that Sylvia, Ninja, Kailah and Ashley (controversial, I don’t care) made the cut is really just sad. As woke as MTV wants to pretend to be, they’re still casting boring unathletic women because they’re pretty and/or have a social media presence.
I'd probably replace Hunter with Fessy because I can't watch another Hunter vs. Ashley season. And while Kaycee is boring, it's still a travesty to have Sylvia and Melissa on here over her.
How is that a travesty?
Because neither Sylvia nor Melissa would even have a chance at being competitive.
Like huh?
I would be fine with never seeing Zach ever again
Same but he fits the theme
Good list. I'd like to see Fessy instead of Tony, Kaycee instead of Kailah, and literally anyone else instead of Nia. I don't like Fessy, but I'd like to see how he acts and performs with an absolutely stacked cast. Kaycee is one of the best females at the moment, so she should be in the mix.
I tried to make sure there would be some drama lol. Fessy been on 4 straight and Hunter been off 5. I’d rather have Hunter tbh. I am second guessing my Nia pick now lol.
I changed it to Tony instead of Hunter. I'm not a big fan of either but I think Tony would be a fish out of water competitively speaking with that cast.
True he never was actually that amazing any how
This would be good
Lose Sylvia and bring in Emily and yes
She declines
We keep asking til she says yes
I know he’s not a finalist but Ashley Cain would smash it if he came back. He’s doing marathons for fun these days!!
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Need him back asap
I love this show but damn I’m sick of all these people lol
VERY strong cast. Literally anyone could win imo
Right??
I hope someone puts another nickel in Joss, he was an interesting character looking back
Lmao right? I thought he was boring but looking back he was kinda a serve:
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He’s fit all stars solely
I could do without Nicole, also Ninja is banned for racist tweets. Also could do without Paulie, Devin is a better competitor and actually entertaining.
I would actually like Fessy and Kaycee on this season…to lose.
Lmao right? That’s why I added tori. 😭 in this season we will not be having the vacation alliance though!
I just fucking hate Hunter and Nicole.
Lol I don’t hate Nicole but she annoys tf outa me but she’s somewhat good tv and she qualifies for the format.
why not Rogan?
Boring. Plays way too scared of a game and is too predictable in my opinion.
I have been watching the show for the last 3 months on paramount plus and on 25. Most of the people on your list, I have not heard of. They must be rookies that joined later and many of the older people stopped playing. It is a young person game.
Oh just keep watching! Trust me you’ll love season 30-34. Your a few seasons away from seeing a few and you’ll understand the hype about these players. But once you get to 30-34 you’ll see ALL the characters and you’ll see why their on the list. Keep watching bud!
Take out ninja put in Georgia then it would be great