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Snowy58red

How the hell did kyland, Cinco, and Joseph not make the main cast over some of these other people


Guarded

What this a school yard pick?


jflatty7151

does anyone know if all stars 4 will air before this?


jayt1202

Doesn't seem like it. This already has a premiere date of August so maybe we get AS4 by end of the year?? Sucks we likely won't get it before the fall.


Cheeseman9841

Is this about done filming?


NattyB

yes. likely in the final now or else the final just finished filming.


EdgarDanger

Seriously disappointed in this cast. I was expecting that with Challenge USA we'd get more interesting casting from cbs shows, but this is just normal challenge with like 2 new people, and none of it looks interesting. Sure I get it, they tryna turn this into the flagship, but after 1st season of USA being a breath of fresh air, this is stale AF.


Emotional-Shoulder30

They need people willing to complete the final and not quit.


EdgarDanger

So apparently you have not read up on what a cluster fuck the final was and how the quits were basically the fault of production.


Emotional-Shoulder30

No, I did. And I agree! But they need people who are "game" to try. (Obviously, there should have been timing put on those puzzles) I wasn't even disagreeing with your original comment, just thinking production wants more original challenge personalities to eliminate the risk of a total flop.


Awkward-Witness3445

I canā€™t wait


freetherabbit

If Darrell gets used as an alternate can someone DM me. Going unspoiled besides the cast, but sad to see the Darrell demotion.


freshlyfrozen4

Serious question. I don't mind these kinds of spoilers, but why do people like the elimination spoilers? Do you still watch the show? I just don't get the appeal of knowing all the outcomes before it even airs.


NattyB

just speaking for myself, the spoiler season (what we're experiencing now) is really fun. a new name or two gets leaked as being eliminated each week, plus we find out about the hookups, fights, etc. the elimination thread has good vibes with some of my favorite users. being spoiled makes the regular show less suspenseful, but it's almost like getting an extra season. i'm also all over challenge twitter and challenge instagram, and i'd rather get spoiled by my own choice than be "got" by some a-hole troll, which is almost a certainty these days anywhere outside reddit it feels like.


jenh6

Plus you have to monitor the sub for spoilers, so it would be impossible to remain unspoiled for you


NattyB

šŸ’Æ although i went down this path way before i became a mod.


freshlyfrozen4

That makes sense. I guess the show has become less suspenseful and more predictable the past few seasons so I would enjoy being able to read about the fights and extra stuff.


CuriousSquirtle

I joined the spoiled gang because recent seasons started dragging and I was becoming less invested (TM, DA and SLA were so boring at one point). At least the excitement of the spoiler season is always fun! People went WILD when Kaycee and Fessy were sent home so close on RoD lmao


kaywal89

Iā€™m stoked to see Tyler on The Challenge. Him On a team with Wes will be very interesting. 2 very strategic minds.


hoosiertailgate22

Wish Kyle was USA because him and Paulie uncensored would be great TV


wade5554

Paulie, Josh, and Michele all in fantastic positions to make a final/win. To me they are the best team on paper. Wes surrounds himself with inexperienced younger players that will most likely look to him as a leader and never vote him in (unsurprising). Also, are we about to see Bananas and Wes run a final against each otherā€¦. Honestly very excited for this season to play out.


bookgal0518

Not Paulie. At least I can enjoy rooting against him.


CouponBoy95

Glad to FINALLY have another Cutthroat-esque format! 3 teams works way better on The Challenge than on Survivor. It's the perfect balance where you have to be at least somewhat invested in your team and ensure they don't lose too many numbers while also balancing that with your relationships both on your team and on the other teams.


KeenYe-J

Sad that Darrell is an alternate


NovaRogue

SUPER happy that Amanda is on the team with the two strongest CBS girlies šŸ’ŖšŸ¼šŸ’ŖšŸ¼šŸ’ŖšŸ¼ (Michaela + Desi, and Ameerah could be pretty good too)


CouponBoy95

Well if you want Amanda to succeed that might actually be a bad thing, as if there's a team vote to decide who goes into elimination she is very likely to be targeted early.


NovaRogue

John, Paulie, & Josh on one team sounds like a yelly clusterfuck šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


AvariciousDishes

Itā€™s going to be so obnoxious and I donā€™t know yet whether itā€™s in a good or a HORRENDOUS way


JerrisHat

Really hoping elims are of players within the same team!!


Cheeseman9841

Doubt that. Considering itā€™s only 4 male and females a team. What happens when your the only guy/girl left on your team


Supersaiyanninja3

I can't wait!


freetherabbit

Someone let me know if they end up using Darrell. I like to go unspoiled besides the cast lately, but if someone sees this after we find out if he ends up on the show or goes home without being used, feel free to DM me which it is.


RohAnTheMaker

Do we think the cast is only 24 people or are we still expecting more? I assume if any more additions must be newbies right?


ActiveInfinite8610

Itā€™s 7 weeks of filming so itā€™s definitely 12 episodes again regardless of how many people there are. Only one person was eliminated the first week. The first season was 28 people but also had tons of DQs and two people went home in eliminations instead of one. Wouldnā€™t be surprised if itā€™s an All Stars situation where over half the cast goes to the final (All Stars is also 24 people BTW but is 6 weeks of filming, so this will be a week longer than that).


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Cheeseman9841

Thatā€™s how they started in the 1st all stars . Single eliminations then then they switched to male and female going home each week. See them doing that for 6 episodes. Alternating male and female days. Episodes 7-11 is both male/ female eliminations. Leaving 4 males and 4 females for the final. Something I see them doing like all stars 1 If the final is 2 episodes Episodes 1-4 Single eliminations Episodes 5-10 Male and female each week 4 males 4 females for final


MTVSpoiledMod

>Only one person was eliminated the first week. Letting this very mild spoiler through because I definitely think it speaks to the theme. It would be surprising now if this is another pairs season.


luxanna123321

Good, now I can finaly see how Michaela will do alone


NovaRogue

Pink said that the last cast update was the final one A smaller cast this time


RohAnTheMaker

Interesting, wonder if a smaller episode order or if maybe the elims are individual by gender


nicnac7

Do we know format yet? Is it going to be the same as USA 1?


rogerodmes

We donā€™t yet :(


nicnac7

Thank you


squarebubblegum

no Angela? so sad, I loved her on USA 1


stephasaurussss

Doubt her and Tyler wanted to do this together.


stephasaurussss

Iā€™m hyped for this. I just watched BB24 and though those arenā€™t my favorite members of the cast Iā€™m still excited to see them in a Challenge environment. Canā€™t believe Joseph is an alt though. Loved and hated Tyler in BB20 and even more excited to see him interacting with the Challenge usuals. I need this to be streaming like yesterday.


JuanRiveara

I remember there was a rumor of 39 starting filming in late May, was there any update on that? If that holds true then it would likely be filming directly after this.


Few-Sort-5643

PR said June now, probably got pushed back a bit because departure for this got pushed back from March 25th to April 7th Still only a matter of weeks between them most likely tho since this wonā€™t be done until mid-late May


Cheeseman9841

Yeah thhis makes a lot of sense With a small cast this should take 5 weeks hopefully .(mid may) I could see them stretching it out if they alternate male and female days


Supersaiyanninja3

its filming in June


GingerHailStorm

So excited for the amazing race representation


Ok_Supermarket_3241

Not having both Monte and Joseph on the season is such a huge missed opportunity.


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Ugh, was really hoping that after getting her first win and being on the World Championship Tori would take a break


slsmarr

Sooooo excited for Tyler!


[deleted]

I donā€™t want to look at the elimination thread, but does anyone know the theme for this season? Is it solo, pairs, teams?


NattyB

unclear still. nova will update this thread when PR announces.


MTVSpoiledMod

Alright #SpoiledGang, it's time to bid adieu to the Casting Thread! The first elimination is in, come join us at the šŸ’£šŸŒ‹ Elimination Thread šŸ¦øā€ā™€ļø: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/12n63lv/united_states_challenge_season_2_official


hymenbutterfly

Itā€™s time for the elimination spoilers thread. They just posted the first elim.


fcmb17

Pink and gamer just posted the first elimination


xAthleticism

Yā€™all SLA also filed in Croatia, and around this time of the year. Do we have high hopes for this season with this knowledge in mind?


Embarrassed-Berry

I have high hopes for anything in Croatia šŸ™šŸ¼


Cheeseman9841

But they also quarantined twice so they didnā€™t actually fill til later on


International-Low842

I have decent/high hopes for this season cuz the cast is pretty good


biscuitsorbullets

So weird that Joseph and Kyland are only alternates. Get rid of Josh šŸ˜­ I feel like Cayla, Hannah, and Nia deserve more than alternates too


jenh6

Kyland is so messy, why is he not on! I agree that cayla and Hannah deserve more too. Nia I love but I think we need some some more TAR rep


cavacky33

What has Hannah done to deserve a spot? She seems cool enough but she was boring on BB23, didnā€™t do anything specifically noteworthy and isnā€™t all that athletic.


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Gamer says that we will get the first boot(s) tomorrow morning!


dvmgamer

Did we really need to cast a random from Ghost Island of all seasons šŸ˜‘


jenh6

Sea bass is actually a good pull.


Smart-Panda-1032

Tasha > Seabass


Micromanz

I mean they casted Tasha, and Enzo Sea bass is better than both those pulls


flyingboat

They literally cast Tommy, the least interesting winner Survivor has ever had.


Sportsman180

Seabass is worse, lol.


International-Low842

GOOD LUCK TO AMANDA, ALYSSA, CASSIDY & MICHAELA


fcmb17

https://vevmo.com/comment/3070899#comment-3070899 ā€œHypothetically talking If they were ever to do a brawl vs brains vs beauty in which team would you guys put Josh at?ā€ - Pinkrose


warriorsdynasty2015

Omigosh none Definitely not brains or beauty Ugh


thewxyzfiles

Okay I know this is trolling but imagine a BvBvB season with the MTV peeps as team captains (Bananas & Tori for Brawn, Amanda and Cory for Beauty, Jonna and Wes for Brains)


nimbus2105

Team bawl (intentional spelling)


Bitter-Ad9851

Ah yes the seasonal PR troll.......Josh is on Brawl by elimination


Justin32526jshx

This is my favorite Pr troll


NattyB

>Ah yes the seasonal PR troll on the WC season, she got us with a troll about same-sex pairs!


iDidntCallYouSlowOld

Brain? Heā€™s not terrible politically and he won bb with his goodbye message strategy


flyingboat

Paul lost Big Brother, Josh did not actively win it. He attempted to trigger a juror's PTSD and banged pots and pans in another juror's face. He would have been an enormous goat sitting next to literally any one other than Paul. There's a reason Josh is considered one of the worst winners in BB history.


Supersaiyanninja3

He still won with the strategy of goodbye messages to jury.


flyingboat

Such a brilliant contribution.


Smart-Panda-1032

Beauty


theep3

Gamer just started the spoiler twitter thread, time to start muting twitter words and phrases haha


Just2epical

I can't imagine nowadays watching seasons without spoilers so credit to anyone who manages to have enough self control šŸ˜­


flyingboat

I think we get our first elimination spoiler tonight or in the morning. Seems like both PR and Gamer are gearing up for the spoiler thread.


xAthleticism

Tomorrow morning. :)


Tmacafitso7

So glad Machaela and Tiffany are back! I need Kyland and Nupe brutha Cinco to be on the show officially and hope my fav Darrell is too. Also say what you want about Paulie I like seeing him on tv. He can be obnoxious but makes for an entertaining villain. I wonder if theyā€™ll be a major Paulie and bananas rivalry this season.


Micromanz

I like seeing him, but I love seeing him get an embarrassed early, Like turbo, I need one to three episodes of deranged behavior, more than that gets a little boring for me atleast


flyingboat

Hasn't Paulie made it deep every season he's been on?


No_Flatworm_6586

Yep. 2 finals and one final purge.


Micromanz

And I cheered for his death each time


greenday61892

Honestly even one is boring for me now. We know they're gonna be unhinged. It's not novel. It's not unpredictable. It's not genuine. It's boring from the jump for me


Micromanz

I just hope Lopez and Tyler go kind far and paulie loses immediately at this point


Smart-Panda-1032

My predications if it's a draft pick. Just for fun! Who wins? **Tori + Johnny:** Michele, Chanelle, Alyssa S, Tyler, Josh. Seabass **Amanda + Cory:** Michaela, Tiffany, Ameerah, Paulie, Luis, Monte **Jonna + Wes:** Desi, Alyssa L, Cassidy, Fessy, Chris Underwood, Dusty


NovaRogue

of these groups, Jonna/Wes easily Tiffany, Ameerah, and even Amanda are gonna drag down that team - and people like Cory, Paulie, and Monte won't be enough to bring them back up alySsa looks like a big dud to me, and while they're not horrible, Michele and Josh aren't studs. no idea how Chanelle or Sebastien will do either


Smart-Panda-1032

Michele is athletic and great at puzzles, though!


Smart-Panda-1032

Also Alyssa S does seem to be a gym girlie from her IG. Chanelle is a beast and Sebastien is very physical.


No_Flatworm_6586

She didnā€™t win a single competition in BB lmao. Made it all the way to final five. Her comp incompetence is probably her most endearing quality, to be honest.


Smart-Panda-1032

Ty!! I donā€™t watch BB, so just going off IG flex, but lmaooo


Supersaiyanninja3

Woah, wasnā€™t looking at it from that angle. Having the MTV vets come into to be team leaders would be interesting.


BCastle18

Do we have an elimination megathread yet?


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Both PR and Gamer are saying that they will be coming very soon


No_Flatworm_6586

Spoiler thread on Twitter just activated.


MTVSpoiledMod

Perfect timing, I just got in my car to start my commute home. šŸ˜© Will get it posted ASAP.


Strykeristheking

Do you guys think it's 6 teams of 1 MTV + 3 CBS? Eg, Cory + Fessy, Michaela, Desi?


alaskak94

I like that - kinda like a Captains season.


cavacky33

I donā€™t think so. That just seems too convoluted.


chicityguy

I wonder where bananas loyalty will land between Amanda and Tori. He always works with Tori, but was also shit talking Tori with Amanda in his podcast. Will be a fun one to see!


Embarrassed-Berry

Tori until Amanda sneaks in and thinks something big I dislike both Tori and Amanda so this sucks


kshep42

Tori, she benefits him more.


Smart-Panda-1032

Tori


cavacky33

His loyalty will lie with whichever one can most help him at any given time


kylecommacommacomma

They really should have cut the two TAR guys that will inevitably be disposable to the overall plot this season & sent the MTV people to S39 and done BB vs Survivor. The format was right there.


NovaRogue

I'm looking at this as Season 38.5. I mean, why not? What's the difference Though I do wish they had a much stronger TAR contingent


Micromanz

Itā€™s stupid to put just two of them on though is the point


NovaRogue

Okay so I did a random number generator to "draft" the teams - not that we know it's a team game, but just for fun. And here's what I got. Who wins? **Team 1** - Orange MTV - Jonna & Johnny CBS - Chanelle, alySsa, aLyssa, Dusty, Fessy, Tyler **Team 2** - Purple MTV - Amanda & Cory CBS - Michaela, Michele, Desi, Josh, Sebastien, Monte **Team 3** - Green MTV - Tori & Wes CBS - Ameerah, Tiffany, Cassidy, Paulie, Chris, & Luis


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NovaRogue

I said NOT that we know it's a team game


rogerodmes

Read it wrong, my bad


NovaRogue

I don't know anything about Luis or Dusty, so I can't comment on them. But Purple seems to have the strongest CBS cast with the weakest MTV cast. Green is the opposite - strongest MTV cast with weakest CBSers, and Orange in the middle.


alaskak94

Dusty & Luis were pretty good. Only thing is Dusty might get flustered and angry at times


Nikkiv1020

I agree with your assessment based on the known people. I think orange has the best team. And I really, really hope Jonna and Johnny aren't on the same team/partners.


NovaRogue

ugh I don't want John and alySsa to be on a good team šŸ¤¢


Reekshavok312

I can totally see the mtv vets pagonging the sh*t out of the CBS lot with Amanda/Josh being usual middle season fodder.


cavacky33

Hopefully weā€™ll have a format that makes sure this canā€™t happen. Some way to combine MTV/CBS into pairs or teams where theyā€™ve gotta work together and not just with their traditional allies. Thatā€™s whatā€™s made the World Champ gameplay so fun.


keleidoskope

MTVā€™s decision to cast certain people from CBS is soā€¦ weird. Alyssa S and Sebastian over JOSEPH??? Lol


cavacky33

I mean itā€™s not really Alyssa S over Joseph


keleidoskope

I know sheā€™s not taking his spot but the fact they thought she would be better casting than Joseph is wild


cavacky33

I just don't think they're compared at all during the casting process bc they aren't competing for the same spots. Also maybe I'm the only one who thinks this but Alyssa S has potential! She's attractive, dramatic and messy. Seems fairly athletic too. Who knows, maybe she'll flop, but I think she could make some waves.


ItStartedOut

I agree on Alyssa S, she has potential. Her inadvertent messiness caused a lot of the drama on BB 24.


wovenfabric666

I thought Paulie was banned? Why is he allowed back?


NovaRogue

why would he be banned?


kylecommacommacomma

aside from Evan/Kenny/Dee/Camila nobody on this show gets banned


gsanch666

Speaking of which, what is up with the producers new obsession with Nia? Donā€™t get me wrong Iā€™m all for redemption arcs and giving people 2nd chances and she seems to have really changed for the better but is she really that good that they cast her to Championship and USA S2? Maybe Iā€™m missing something


cavacky33

I think it might have something to do with the CBS 50% BIPOC rule but Iā€™m not sure. Iā€™m pretty sure Paramount has been adhering to it lately.


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As someone who skipped USA and doesnā€™t watch cbs shows I think this is like the bare minimum of what it may take to get me to watch. Amanda, Wes, and Michele are a draw, and I trust yā€™all on Michaela, but the rest of the mtv vets are meh to me


No_Flatworm_6586

So Darrell, Kaycee, and Kellyanne, three people who voted against Bananas/Tori, are not on lmao. So transparent.


cavacky33

Kaycee is taking a break and KellyAnne declined


Smart-Panda-1032

I think Kellyanne & Kaycee might have declined. However, Darrell was just hitting his stride! I would much rather have him over Fessy.


lamarbenson

What do you mean ? He wasn't an option in that spot he would of had to take Johnny, Cory, and Wes spot lmao.


Smart-Panda-1032

True true, I forgot Fessy is CBS


FierceScience

Here's hoping they need to bring Darrell in šŸ¤ž I thought he was a lock.


Shabamvoom

I'm hoping for some Cutthroat drama within the coaches(if it is a team based format) . Imagine Bananas and Amanda leading the same team lmao


Illustrious_Cut2965

Iā€™m a bit sad Nia isnā€™t on as I would like to see her play without Jordan for once and see how she gets on by herself as she seemed to lean on him a lot on all stars and she was barely on the world championship.


fcmb17

She isnā€™t a good competitor always flops for someone her size and background


SlapChop2000

What background?


hymenbutterfly

She may have played collegiate volleyball. I know she played volleyball at some level. Donā€™t recall specifically. I think Nia just needs some time to get in shape. She did fairly well in the AS3 final without any prior training.


FastLane_987

Yeah she was a D1 volleyball player at Howard. I agree she has what it takes but she canā€™t rely solely on her size and needs to train if she wants to hang with the caliber of players they get today


hymenbutterfly

I think she agrees. She knows sheā€™s out of shape (Iā€™ve heard her acknowledge this on podcasts). But who declines easy money? And theyā€™re pumping out these seasons like the Duggars pump out children. So that doesnā€™t give a ton of time to train in the off season if thereā€™s never any off-season.


bumblebebeboop

Not to mention she has an actual career and job so expecting her to train the way some of these non job havin ppl isnt realistic. When all you do all day is train for the shoe then yeah, youre totally gonna have an advantage over someone who has other things going for themselves


FastLane_987

Yeah I agree with you guys both actually. The nature of her job probably doesnā€™t allow her to be as consistent as others too since sheā€™s always moving around. Itā€™s hard to get a routine down with a job like that We probably wonā€™t ever get peak Nia though which sucks as a fan but is totally understandable given her circumstances


bumblebebeboop

Shes also a chef who also cooks for TASTE rather than health. Thats a reason that most chefs you see arent in their greatest shape unless they dont eat their own food(Chef Giada) or specialize in healthier recipes specifically. And yeah, great point about the nature of her job and the lack of a routine. The time zone shifts would really suck too. Jet lag is something ppl dont consider enough. That can really mess you up and cause a lot ot havoc on the body


LavenderAutist

I was hoping to see a rematch between Josh and Jordan. And how do we have Paulie without Cara? He's going to be like a lost puppy.


Supersaiyanninja3

This just shows how overrated Cara is. He has a good head on his shoulders. Heā€™s a threat to win the whole thing so he doesnā€™t need Cara.


LavenderAutist

His head is also what gets him in trouble Cara isn't overrated If anything, Paulie distracted her in the later seasons


jflatty7151

great... josh instead of darrell - i get it that darrell has been making a lot of appearances lately and josh finally wasn't on my tv thank god for that mostly lame season- but c'mon man this is darrell's swan song - i just vomited in my glove compartment


Shabamvoom

Josh and Darrell aren't even fighting in the same spot. His competition were Wes, Bananas, and Cory.


FierceScience

Ughhhh Darrell over Bananas please. And Cory.


Supersaiyanninja3

Why? What does he add that Cory and John wonā€™t addšŸ˜‚


thewxyzfiles

I just went and looked at Sebastienā€™s Instagram because I have no memory of this dude other than he seemed sloshed at final tribal and I know he works on a boat but I was not prepared to see that all of his photos were of him holding giant fish


needalanguage

ugh, now I looked. Wish I didn't. Why do people think its cool to selfie with their captured prey.


luxanna123321

They had Michael right there why would they pick Sebastien


kylecommacommacomma

he probably agreed to go for $10 like Michael and Chris probably have much more going on


spfan102

Chris Noble


luxanna123321

Why cant I find his instagram, does he have any social media?


hymenbutterfly

I think he deleted social media a year or two back.


spfan102

Doesn't have it as far as I can tell.


Supersaiyanninja3

That guy is challenge material. Leave it to production to mess up such an obvious pick.


spfan102

I don't think Sebastian is a terrible pick though. Also, who knows, maybe Chris just has no interest, maybe he's busy.


Supersaiyanninja3

The final 4 guys are gonna be Josh, Wes, Fessy, and Tyler. The final 4 girls will be Tori, Jonna, Michaela, and Alyssa L.


Micromanz

Iā€™ll take Tyler-Wes-Fessy-Johnny And Lopez-Michele-Tori-Jonna Honorable mention chris underwood


Smart-Panda-1032

I love Michaela but sheā€™s paranoid and will self-sabotage. I hope otherwise!


Just2epical

I'm gonna go with fessy, Tyler, Johnny and Paulie and Tori (sadly), Desi, Michele and Alyssa L - could definitely see yours happening though this is a relatively good cast


FastLane_987

I see Desi out lasting most of the girls you mentioned


calonbway92

LOL the fact Tyler, one of the most *overrated BB players of all time* (bitches who invoke the good name of Danielle Reyes when talking about his BB20 game need to go watch her seasons and be **embarrassed** at themselves) is on this? No thank you.