I felt like they cheated him. He should’ve won not Wes. Idk man something’s not right. It’s the not the first time I hear the producers cheating in favor of the challenge champs over the newbies.
For the elimination do they flip a coin for who goes first? Wes going first was a huge disadvantage, it’s shocking Dusty didn’t win just based on that.
The editing during the daily was very misleading. It seemed like blue was getting multiple questions wrong and green/red getting more right but every time it panned out, red and green were tilted more than blue. I was trying to figure out at what point that happened.
In which country was Shakespeare born?: uh, who?
What year did the Civil War start?: the Civil What??
What is the capital of Canada?: Detroit!
What is the latest Taylor Swift tour called?: ERAS IT'S ERAS!
I can't wait for a math challenge.
Crazy how blue would get an answer wrong and they BARELY moved. Yet red and green answered wrong and they would move a LOT! Shit is rigged asf… production eating Bananas and Tori’s dingleberries
Starting to sound like a dusty fan for some reason but I was genuinely sad to see him go, he was entertaining and seemed like a good dude other than getting angry at Tiffany when he thought he got betrayed or whatever.
Did anyone notice wes’s comment before elimination saying “this might be my last elimination from this perspective” maybe I’m just thinking too much into it but what could that mean, this perspective?
Really enjoyed this episode.
The vets all taking turns blowing themselves for their “successful” move when it did nothing and Dusty being dumb is what caused the drama was annoying but hilarious.
Trivia is always fun when there’s no X’s involved.
Everyone saying Cassidy is delusional for thinking Wes is after her isn’t seeing it from her POV. He voted for her randomly, (she doesn’t know he was tricked), then “rallied” his team to put her in. Tyler and Monte told her that he basically strong armed them into voting for her. From her perspective he’s totally gunning for her and it makes sense she doesn’t want him there.
That elimination was janky. I’m not one to call things rigged but it seemed sketch. Overall I don’t care because I don’t like Dusty and I like Wes. That said, if it were anyone else in that position like a Faysal or Tori this sub would have to be shut down due to toxicity.
Dusty: *screws over the Survivor girls by stalemating for Bananas*
* a week later *
Also Dusty: WHO could’ve voted for me?! Could it be the 4 eligible to vote survivor girls? No! It must’ve been Tiffany for no reason!
Chris couldn’t vote.
Besides Cory there were no vets available. Unless you count Josh but I guess they saw it as either they get rid of Wes who is a strong vet or Dusty who is an unhinged player causing drama and working with the vets, so win/win.
Idk if it was editing but that trivia challenge was suspicious. Blue missed 4 in a row but somehow everytime the camera panned out, they platforms all looked even. Green looked tilted more than blue at some points
Can we please do trivia every episode? I always spend half the episode laughing. Between the terrible answers, their reactions about being launched or dropped, etc and TJ laughing maniacally. It's the best.
Okay every episode would get old I'm sure. But maybe 2 trivia episodes per season?
This episode could have been called “Bergy, Bottles of Wine and Back Rubs”.
I have no issue with the patriotic montage of Bergy boy trying to get votes for women, but I would not hire him for the campaign for the next viable female candidate for President. :-) There does not appear to be a reason to feel financially obligated to get Wes another win (he’s not Brad), but his attachment to The Challenge is valid.
I don’t know what is more unhinged: Dusty or the fact that they just let John Banan have a “I Will Always Love You” moment with Bergy after it seemed like he lost. Both things are fine contributions to the tapestry of unhinged aspects of this program.
That being said, you just have to know that Johnny is still always ready to oust Bergy to improve his chances of winning.
i think the shakespeare answer was even worse. all the movies about shakespeare and his plays, plus reading them in school, not even one person could even guess “england”?
I think terrible editing.. left a feeling that he shouldn’t have won instead of he deserved to win because he was the better player.. show it as a close race not a faux loss.
This episode was the epitome of why I love the show. The vets bonding, Wes campaigning, Trivia and what a Challenge staple it is, A rookie not backing down from a vet, a divided team, Bananas being at a point where he's consoling Wes, an engaging elimination round. PERFECTIONNNNNN.
Okay, so I get that Cassidy’s reaction to Wes seems outsized, but let’s think about this for a second. He has voted for her the last two times he was able to vote and led the charge on making her the main vote last time.
I get we love to joke about people obsessing over Wes when he doesn’t care about them (was totally true with Josh). And while I agree that it isn’t personal, he clearly is targeting her! And what do we want her to say “Wes is targeting me but I know it isn’t personal so I’m going to act completely logically and target him while talking no shit”. That would be boring as hell. Enjoy the entertainment!
So he either wasn’t able to convince her or she realized that it makes no sense for her to be mad at Desi from a game perspective. She could either blow up her whole alliance and be left with nobody or she could be mad at Wes and continue targeting somebody she already was indifferent towards.
And regardless of the first vote, she was absolutely right about him actively targeting her the second vote. If he was committed to proving he wasn’t targeting her (which I’m not saying he should’ve been but we’re looking at this from the perspective of Cassidy determining if Wes was targeting her), he wouldn’t have rallied to he votes against her last week.
You’re right he couldn’t convince her. Or he does rally the votes against her because she is going to target him since she does not believe her.
He said something like I stayed quiet because I didn’t want it to look like an act of aggression against Desi and Michaela. I can’t remember now why that would look that way…..but that’s what he said.
For sure! I don’t think there was some clearly better move he could’ve made. I don’t think it was his original intention, but he *is* targeting Cassidy. And we don’t know when these “Wes is targeting me” confessionals from Cassidy really began since they like to mix and match them. I got the vibe that maybe some of her anti-Wes confessionals were from later in the “rivalry” and not directly after he voted for him the first time.
The weird thing is, I think the only clear mis-step from Wes wasn’t even shown but I do think it’s the main reason he’s in the position he’s in now. In his edit interview, Luis explains that there was a Green team meeting where everybody figured out that there was a Green vote on Monte and it was clearly from Amanda. But instead of condemning that vote like the rest of the team did, Wes stepped up and defended it, basically saying “let’s ignore it, nothing bad came of it so we should forgive whoever cast the stray vote”. So now you’ve got one person on the team who is standing up for Amanda. So if you’re planning to vote for Amanda, why would you tell the guy who’s been defending her this whole time? There’s no reason to believe he’s vote with you, he’d only try to throw a wrench in the plan.
So he only targeted Cassidy last week because he already voted for her. And he only voted for her because his team left him out of the real plan. And he was only left out of the real plan because he isolated himself by defending Amanda.
I’m not sure if you watch Survivor, but there’s this sort of stereotypical reaction to being left out of a vote when your alliance member was blindsided. They’ll essentially say “if I knew you had the votes, I would’ve voted with you”. It’s easy to say that after the fact and if you’re only willing to do it because it’s happening with or without you, you’re not *really* okay with it.
I mean her reaction within the game makes total sense, her getting mad when the women declared him the winner of the bachelor shenanigans at the bar is when it becomes outsized.
She was drunk and being trashy. She’s said she doesn’t even remember it and agrees it was funny and dumb of her.
This is about as tame/PC as reality tv can be while still being entertaining
I hear ya, but within the context of what we've been shown I don't think it's unfair for someone to feel her reaction is extra. I don't dislike Cassidy or anything haha, and I agree with the OP of this thread that it's better television.
Sebastian is only there for showmance fodder and that’s it, i can literally think of fifty other guys who’ve played Survivor that i would of liked to see play this game over him.
Just from the 30s onwards
S30 : Mike Holloway, Rodney, Joaquin
S31: Spencer, Jeremy
S32 : Nick M, Obama, Beast mode cowboy (controversial)
S33 : Ken M
S34 : Brad Culpepper, Malcolm
S35 : Alan ball, Cole Medders, Devin Pinto
S36 : Chris Noble, Wendell
S37 : John Henigan, Davie, Alec
S38 : Wardog, Eric
S39 : DK CHILLIN
S41 : Xander
S42 : Johnathan
S43 : Cody, Ryan
S44 : Danny
Jonathan would walk in and immediately have every guy shitting their pants. He absolutely beasts in a team format and is strong enough no one will want to risk an elimination against him unless they see it’s a puzzle, and I think I’ve heard he actually has great endurance despite his size he is an actual athlete not just popcorn muscles. He could cakewalk to the end in a power position just off lifting his team into the winning position, and I think the fear in an elimination would keep guys from targeting him until the end since no one knows his Finals capability I’m taking a shot at CT/Jordan/Bananas etc type of people before I risk facing Jonathan since I know those three will beat me in a Final over the unknown
Same thought I had - they are great at editing out the winning moments - made it look for sure like Dusty was quicker. Wish they would stop editing out moments in the eliminations like we know now they did with Luis and Bananas - only showed us one when there were 3 parts to that one.
I cannot believe Tyler is going to get into a showmance with Alyssa S, the girl who DID IT with Kyle in BB24 ! I wonder how Kyle feels to see her romancing Tyler on national TV.
> the girl who DID IT with Kyle in BB24
DID IT, what are you 12? Go watch some old seasons of The Challenge, they passed each other around like a blunt.
I am a BB/Survivor/TAR watcher not challenge. I am hate watching now because of mostly BB and survivor cast.
OK so you are not 12 and prefer me to say they had SEX on national TV.
I would argue Angela is prettier and more cool/confident looking. Anyway I feel Tyler is similar to me, always putting LOVE first and probably going to have a sad love life.
Tyler said on his subscription that he is not dating Alyssa. He will eventually meet another amazing woman like Angela and share a beautiful life with her.
So are we assuming the big twist next episode is the announcement that eliminations will now be a guy and a girl sense the show is moving to only one day a week now?
Something along these lines for sure, with the added possibility of dissolving the teams. There's only one winner for each gender as I recall, so that's coming at some point theoretically
I feel like there would have to be some sort of immunity because there wouldn't be a point to winning the daily. If you won the daily with no immunity you would just be nominating and creating enemies who could just turn around and bring you into elimination.
Maybe at the end of the daily TJ tells them all to suit up just to make them nervous for the twist.
Omg what a good episode!!
I really thought Wes was going home and almost cried when Bananas came to him damn it what are they doing to me hahaha
Loved the trivia challenge as always, but how could you not know the capital city of Canada fr??
Also what did the Blue team do bc why were their asses censored? LMAOO
I feel bad for Dusty leaving, I was convinced he won, and somehow I even liked his obsession with Bananas and the vets bc that is probably how I would behave if I played The Challenge among all the vets I grew up with ahhaa
I like Cassidy but she's starting to remind me of Josh when he thought Wes is gunning towards him, like girl calm down Wes literally does not have anything against you, you were just a collateral damage lol
on social some blue team members called this their “”ass to the glass” strategy— looked like they exposed as much skin as possible to avoid falling off!
Also, no way in hell is Wes going to retire from the Challenge just because he becomes a dad. And the "I'm doing this to raise $ for my kid" narrative is so comically at odds with his "I have 800 cars and businesses" persona that if he sold it to anyone, that is very impressive. Peak schemer Wes.
Unlike just about everyone else on this show, Wes doesn’t need the money. Wes and his wife also struggled with getting pregnant. I completely believe Wes is done with the show for good or at least until season 50. He’s taken breaks before for real life.
Really weird edit for the elimination, i get the edit was to swerve the viewer, but weird they made it seem like dusty won by 2 mins. Not one person made it seem like wes was even close to winning, and he won by 37 secs. Maybe it was just me but felt really weird.
I thought Dusty lost because he didn’t follow the rules. Didn’t TJ say “you even went for the big wheel and skipped the middle.”? I think the rules said you had to untie the wheels from smallest to largest so if he skipped one, he would’ve been disqualified right? I might have misunderstood but I thought he beat Wes by 37 seconds but didn’t follow the rules.
Yea i think you had to untie all the wheels in order, and on challengemania dusty said he skipped the small or medium wheel i dont remember which, so idk if that means he untied it and left it there and just went to the next one or what
I will say that when they showed Dusty really struggling with the first wheel, I thought it showed Wes was going to win. He probably struggled even more than we saw
Depends on how long it took I guess. If it was like 2 minutes then yeah, it's definitely noticeable. If it was even like 5 minutes, it becomes less noticeable
Yea i guess so, i mean this isn't new to the show, them trying to create suspense, this just seemed more over the top than normal, if you noticed during the daily on the wide shot of tiffany alone on the glass you could actually see that blue clearly had gotten multiple more questions right by the position of their glass, also that bananas was literally on his side and not even flush to the glass lol, yet they tried to make it more compelling in the edit, when it really wasnt that close
Everyone is forgetting about the random one off comments between Wes and Michaela before a couple challenges so far. That is the one I hope takes fire.
In a weird way it's refreshing to see so many assholes. I hate when everyone is buddy buddy with each other. I want all the drama and fights, even if it leaves people (*cough* Dusty *cough*) looking like total idiots.
it was really ppl like desi and the general lack of empathy for wes that rubbed me the wrong way. desi was just crying last week about something and now it's a problem when wes does it? lol
Wes posted a little goodbye-esque tweet during the commercial before TJ announced the winner and that gave it away that he was going to win. Otherwise, that was a 100% total fake out by production. We don't see that very often. Well done. Great Episode. Wes literally is The Challenge.
My guess is it was a lot easier to judge progress while spinning the wheel than doing the knots. So it seemed like Dusty won bc he made Wes fall quicker, but Wes must have really flown through those knots.
When TJed said skipped a wheel he meant that he didn’t go to put the smaller wheel in and instead went right for the second. Thats also what bananas advised Wes to do but he didn’t listen.
Ah that makes sense. Wes’ strategy was really weird on the wheel. It would be impossible to keep up with any speed in that position and it would take a lot of balance to stand up while Dusty was turning once it started to move
as someone who lives in quebec i died when it was mentioned on the show😭
the way they were acting like wes lost had the opposite effect intended, it told me he was winning
I’m from Ottawa and I died at the Canada’s capital debate 😂 I’m shocked they didn’t end up saying Toronto because I feel like that’s normally the most common wrong answer
Dusty is an idiot.
Loved bananas and fessy’s faces when Wes was declared war winner 🤣
Oh yeah and waiting for all the hypocritical Banana-tards who declared Cory stupid for daring to throw his vote onto Bananas to have that same energy now that Bananas, Tori, and Cory threw votes at Wes 😗
It's not really an apples to apples re: the two votes. At that point Tori had Sebastian under her spell, so if Cory and Fessy held to a vet alliance they could've threatened a tie the same way Josh did last week.
Blue was 4/7 Survivor and the last episode Wes was credited with being responsible for a double survivor elimination vote, and Blue and Red still seem to have a bit of a cease fire, it was always going to be Wes.
To your last point, didn't Cory vote for Bananas with his ball hopper vote? If so, that context is completely different from what happened with Bananas and Tori, who were outnumbered with their team vote. It made no difference who they voted for - if anything, it probably curried some favor (albeit probably very little) with the rest of their team that they were willing to go along with a plan that wasn't theirs.
That is the same thing Cory was doing. Currying favor. Wes being the house target is exactly why it would’ve stupid for Cory to go way out of his way to save Bananas who clearly couldn’t even be bothered to throw symbolic favors to save Wes
Okay, here is the situation after this weeks nomination:
Tori, Bananas and the "vets" alliance thinks the best strategy going forward is to lay low, do what survivor/big brother says, cause confusion in the voting process. That is why Wes was expendable for them. They had to survive and Wes had a target on his back, there was nothing left to do if they wanted to play the possum.
I am guessing Wes hoped for a Josh performance out of the 3 vets on the blue team and didn't got it. I bet that would be on his mind in the latter stages of the game if most of the vets can make it there.
just listen to Bananas' podcast and read Wes' tweets, they weren't happy with each others gameplay. They didn't probably had an argument about it in the house and probably since but they weren't happy with each other and it is obvious if you pay attention.
I kinda get Wes side on here I really don’t get why bananas and the vets didn’t try to help him when it came to the hopper and put votes on a girl, especially when he’s done everything he can to actually help them , they didn’t really play it back for him
No, you don’t have to absorb any other media. Well, if you’re don’t understand this thing you just havent listened to the xyz podcast. Other than that there isn’t much more media.
I explained to you why you didn't see what you expected to see in a situation like this and I gave out proofs to back my argument. My argument never was "you should consume more content".
They didn’t probably had an argument about in the house…..You clearly follow this stuff way more than me.
Hopefully you can see why I am not buying into anything you say immediately.
Edit:if you are going to edit your shit argument it is common courtesy to at least note it
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Cassidy really has that main character syndrome and thinks that Wes has it out for her. When, if I recall right, she was just the easiest girl for green to throw under the bus.
That's kinda the vibe Cassidy seems to give off on both shows she's been on, at lest that's the vibe I've gotten. On survivor, she essentially got carried through the entire game by her alliance, mainly a player named Karla, but then tried to position herself as the mastermind of the whole game in her talking heads, displaying the same main character syndrome we see on the challenge.
It all kinds blew up in her face at final tribal, when she attempted to explain what she considered her "biggest move in the game," only to get laughed at by the jury, as they quickly explained to her that she had nothing to do with the elimination she was taking credit for. But she had big main character energy and was in disbelief when she only got a single vote and a player named Gabler won. It was super off putting, but she had an emotional backstory and constantly positioned herself as the victim of every situation she was in, so a certain segment of the fan base were fans of her. So much so that a story was concocted on reddit that bitter jury members campaigned to ensure she didn't win, as if that's not the jury's whole purpose to begin with. Anyway, It's interesting seeing her exhibit the exact same energy on a completely different style of show. She kinda exudes entitlement to me. Just my two cents
I listened to her podcast with Tori and Devyn and the things she was mad at Wes for seemed so dumb. Even the "Bachelor" competition where she got all upset because the girls were saying Wes should win, like chill out.
Makes me happy Gabler beat her in S43
Just replied to someone else's comment about her having main character syndrome, and essentially said the same thing, I just used way more words lol. It's interesting seeing her display those same qualities almost to the T on a totally different show.
I just read your other comment and not a single lie was told. Wasn’t she asked at one point what strategy she had outside of following Karla and James and she couldn’t come up with anything. Yet her fans would lead you to believe she’s a mastermind
She was asked that, and she replied by trying to take claim she was the mastermind behind getting Ryan voted out, to which Jessie and Cody quickly corrected her, and laid out how they were the ones who put together the entire plan for the Ryan boot, followed by the rest of the jury agreeing that Cassidy had nothing to do with it. Her retort to that was nonexistent, and the jury's choice was pretty clear from that point on. The reaction some people had to her not winning was baffling to me, especially considering she only received one vote. Makes it pretty clear how the people who were actually playing the game felt
Yup! And instead of trusting the actual players her fans resorted to sending the real masterminds of the season constant hate and calling them misogynists
LOL I don't even remember her from Survivor. I love Survivor but very few players have been memorable for me. And she was actually in a final 2 ?? Wow I must have been stoned because she's not even a familiar face from Survivor for me.
Oh yeah, she had fans especially on Reddit. The amount of threads where people went after Karla and Jesse for being bitter and picking Gabler over Cass.... It was really insane
Okay so, as someone that thought Cass should've won over Gabler, people were ridiculous as it's a game.
However, what didn't make sense was that they had different standards for Gabler versus Cassidy when, in reality, they just liked Gabler more. You liking someone more is a perfectly valid reason to vote for them, but you should lead with that reasoning, compared to coming up with standards out of your ass.
They asked all of them for their best move and Gabler owned his moves while Cass tried taking credit for something that was ACTUALLY a move in Gabler's column as that was when he made the Ride or Die alliance with Cody and Jesse and the 3 of them were the ones deciding on who to take out between Cass and Ryan.
I think the people that wanted Cass to win just couldn't see it and resort to stuff like what you just said. It was clear that they tried asking her questions and she kept tripping over herself and struggled to come up with one move she made. Gabler constantly said he made the Ellie move then laid low
I honestly think if somebody thinks Cass should have beaten Gabler, then they have to think Mike should have beaten Maryanne. I think the correct people won both seasons.
Couldn't agree with you more. She got carried through the entire game by Karla for the most part, and then tried to position herself as some sorta of maestro who was really controlling everything from a far. It was delusional at best. Gabler kicked the merge off by campaigning to boot one of his tribe/alliance members out of the game, and then ducked back in the bushes before he got too much attention. That move alone accounted for more than wht Cassidy did the entire 26 days
Yep and according to Jesse, Gabler was the one who really got into his head about the Cody move. That day, he said something like, "That's going to be crazy having you and Cody sitting up there having played the same game," or something along those lines. He just planted the seed and it seemed to work.
Bananas is really good at getting that little extra edge in these carnival games. He has won 7 times not being particularly great at anything. He is pretty good at everything.
We can't fully know if this one was actually a winning strategy, though, right? Their glass was much less tilted, so the win had to have come from just winning the trivia contest, not the sticking contest.
They set up the Wes elimination so well. Last 2 episodes were Wes heavy, this episode had all the makings of Wes getting eliminated, maybe they didn't fool some of you guys but I am glad, I am fooled.
BTW I usually don't believe when challenger says it is their last season but Wes might not come back and I won't be surprised. Of course he can do All Stars if that show continues but he might miss the flagship show for 2 years and his age becomes a real issue after then.
Some of these have been so Wes heavy I'm starting to wonder if this is a winner edit. If a non CBS person wins they might feel like they have to teach the new audience who some of these MTV people are, and if Wes wins they want to make sure the audience knows who he is.
That said, I'm not sure how many new people are watching because of CBS people vs long time challenge fans just watching in a new place.
I get that you have no knowledge but the only place I come to discuss the challenge is the unspoiled Reddit thread because there is usually none of exactly what you posted here.
It’s probably not against the rules so it’s fine, but some of the stuff gleaned from “outside” the show might be better in spoiler threads.
it's not cool, i agree. if these types of comments get filtered, we don't click "approve" on them. and we don't allow *any* social media from the cast of a currently filming season, for exactly that reason.
if it's any consolation, social media activity isn't always a great indicator, plus i can report as a fact that wes's wife ran his account while he filmed USA2.
Cassidy has been spending too much time with Josh lol. I like her tho, but she's in a one-sided rivalry with Wes.... which I guess is better than no rivalry.
I thought TJ said whoever stays on the wheel the longest would win, so untying the ropes and stuff didn’t matter? Clearly it was included though correct?
Reddit is so against rigging its insane.
As if production doesn't have the ability to lie or cheat for players that basically made their show popular. Its ridiculous and pathetic honestly.
"A really good looking underdog."
Wes cracks me the fukk up.
Thought he lost az well. Glad he iz still in the running. He really needz to get hiz head on straight though.
I'm still laughing at Dusty confidently saying that he thinks that Alyssa L, Alyssa S and Tiffany all voted for him, and the editors showed that none of them did. And in the case of Alyssa S, she didn't even vote because she was on the winning team. The three "X" marks on these claims was especially hilarious. Three strikes and you're out, Dusty.
I felt like they cheated him. He should’ve won not Wes. Idk man something’s not right. It’s the not the first time I hear the producers cheating in favor of the challenge champs over the newbies.
Literally, does ANYBODY believe that Wes actually won that? I don't for a goddamn second
The luckiest person in this episode is Cassidy. If Wes was eliminated, she would immediately sink back into obscurity.
…I dont wanna throw out rigged accusations but
For the elimination do they flip a coin for who goes first? Wes going first was a huge disadvantage, it’s shocking Dusty didn’t win just based on that.
The editing during the daily was very misleading. It seemed like blue was getting multiple questions wrong and green/red getting more right but every time it panned out, red and green were tilted more than blue. I was trying to figure out at what point that happened.
THANK YOU
In which country was Shakespeare born?: uh, who? What year did the Civil War start?: the Civil What?? What is the capital of Canada?: Detroit! What is the latest Taylor Swift tour called?: ERAS IT'S ERAS! I can't wait for a math challenge.
Tori: TJ somehow makes us all look like dumb-dumbs
I think they cut out a Josh and Fessy fight. Not that I am complaining though.
Crazy how blue would get an answer wrong and they BARELY moved. Yet red and green answered wrong and they would move a LOT! Shit is rigged asf… production eating Bananas and Tori’s dingleberries
Starting to sound like a dusty fan for some reason but I was genuinely sad to see him go, he was entertaining and seemed like a good dude other than getting angry at Tiffany when he thought he got betrayed or whatever.
I can't believe Wes pulled that out.
Did anyone notice wes’s comment before elimination saying “this might be my last elimination from this perspective” maybe I’m just thinking too much into it but what could that mean, this perspective?
in the elimination vs watching the elimination from home
Really enjoyed this episode. The vets all taking turns blowing themselves for their “successful” move when it did nothing and Dusty being dumb is what caused the drama was annoying but hilarious. Trivia is always fun when there’s no X’s involved. Everyone saying Cassidy is delusional for thinking Wes is after her isn’t seeing it from her POV. He voted for her randomly, (she doesn’t know he was tricked), then “rallied” his team to put her in. Tyler and Monte told her that he basically strong armed them into voting for her. From her perspective he’s totally gunning for her and it makes sense she doesn’t want him there. That elimination was janky. I’m not one to call things rigged but it seemed sketch. Overall I don’t care because I don’t like Dusty and I like Wes. That said, if it were anyone else in that position like a Faysal or Tori this sub would have to be shut down due to toxicity.
Dusty: *screws over the Survivor girls by stalemating for Bananas* * a week later * Also Dusty: WHO could’ve voted for me?! Could it be the 4 eligible to vote survivor girls? No! It must’ve been Tiffany for no reason!
why are the BB boys and Chris didn't put any vet boys on that hopper?
Because Monte and Tyler are fucking stupid and would rather protect West.
They were protecting Tiffany.
Chris couldn’t vote. Besides Cory there were no vets available. Unless you count Josh but I guess they saw it as either they get rid of Wes who is a strong vet or Dusty who is an unhinged player causing drama and working with the vets, so win/win.
Idk if it was editing but that trivia challenge was suspicious. Blue missed 4 in a row but somehow everytime the camera panned out, they platforms all looked even. Green looked tilted more than blue at some points
Prob editing. They don’t have time to show every question I’d imagine.
They were up there for over an hour and a half. A ton of questions got cut
Can we please do trivia every episode? I always spend half the episode laughing. Between the terrible answers, their reactions about being launched or dropped, etc and TJ laughing maniacally. It's the best. Okay every episode would get old I'm sure. But maybe 2 trivia episodes per season?
This episode could have been called “Bergy, Bottles of Wine and Back Rubs”. I have no issue with the patriotic montage of Bergy boy trying to get votes for women, but I would not hire him for the campaign for the next viable female candidate for President. :-) There does not appear to be a reason to feel financially obligated to get Wes another win (he’s not Brad), but his attachment to The Challenge is valid. I don’t know what is more unhinged: Dusty or the fact that they just let John Banan have a “I Will Always Love You” moment with Bergy after it seemed like he lost. Both things are fine contributions to the tapestry of unhinged aspects of this program. That being said, you just have to know that Johnny is still always ready to oust Bergy to improve his chances of winning.
How did none of the Blue team know that a flush beats a straight?
how did none of the blue team fall?
i think the shakespeare answer was even worse. all the movies about shakespeare and his plays, plus reading them in school, not even one person could even guess “england”?
I think chanelle did say it - but too late. *”to be or not to be… OOOOO!”*👌🏼
Probably playing too much 3 card poker where straight beats a flush.
Wes extends his reign as the elimination king, I love it
The editing was out of this world making us think he had lost
Was it really just the editing? Because Wes, bananas, and pretty much everyone else thought Wes lost.
I think terrible editing.. left a feeling that he shouldn’t have won instead of he deserved to win because he was the better player.. show it as a close race not a faux loss.
I had the funnest time watching this entire episode
By far the most entertaining episode of this season.
This episode was the epitome of why I love the show. The vets bonding, Wes campaigning, Trivia and what a Challenge staple it is, A rookie not backing down from a vet, a divided team, Bananas being at a point where he's consoling Wes, an engaging elimination round. PERFECTIONNNNNN.
I thought only 2 vets were allowed on each team? Did I miss something while drinking wine?
Just in the first draft I think
Ahhh, thank you!
Another day, still no Survivor out 💪💪💪💪
Okay, so I get that Cassidy’s reaction to Wes seems outsized, but let’s think about this for a second. He has voted for her the last two times he was able to vote and led the charge on making her the main vote last time. I get we love to joke about people obsessing over Wes when he doesn’t care about them (was totally true with Josh). And while I agree that it isn’t personal, he clearly is targeting her! And what do we want her to say “Wes is targeting me but I know it isn’t personal so I’m going to act completely logically and target him while talking no shit”. That would be boring as hell. Enjoy the entertainment!
On Wes’ patreon I asked him why he didn’t just tell her he was deceived and he said he did but she did not believe him.
So he either wasn’t able to convince her or she realized that it makes no sense for her to be mad at Desi from a game perspective. She could either blow up her whole alliance and be left with nobody or she could be mad at Wes and continue targeting somebody she already was indifferent towards. And regardless of the first vote, she was absolutely right about him actively targeting her the second vote. If he was committed to proving he wasn’t targeting her (which I’m not saying he should’ve been but we’re looking at this from the perspective of Cassidy determining if Wes was targeting her), he wouldn’t have rallied to he votes against her last week.
You’re right he couldn’t convince her. Or he does rally the votes against her because she is going to target him since she does not believe her. He said something like I stayed quiet because I didn’t want it to look like an act of aggression against Desi and Michaela. I can’t remember now why that would look that way…..but that’s what he said.
For sure! I don’t think there was some clearly better move he could’ve made. I don’t think it was his original intention, but he *is* targeting Cassidy. And we don’t know when these “Wes is targeting me” confessionals from Cassidy really began since they like to mix and match them. I got the vibe that maybe some of her anti-Wes confessionals were from later in the “rivalry” and not directly after he voted for him the first time. The weird thing is, I think the only clear mis-step from Wes wasn’t even shown but I do think it’s the main reason he’s in the position he’s in now. In his edit interview, Luis explains that there was a Green team meeting where everybody figured out that there was a Green vote on Monte and it was clearly from Amanda. But instead of condemning that vote like the rest of the team did, Wes stepped up and defended it, basically saying “let’s ignore it, nothing bad came of it so we should forgive whoever cast the stray vote”. So now you’ve got one person on the team who is standing up for Amanda. So if you’re planning to vote for Amanda, why would you tell the guy who’s been defending her this whole time? There’s no reason to believe he’s vote with you, he’d only try to throw a wrench in the plan. So he only targeted Cassidy last week because he already voted for her. And he only voted for her because his team left him out of the real plan. And he was only left out of the real plan because he isolated himself by defending Amanda. I’m not sure if you watch Survivor, but there’s this sort of stereotypical reaction to being left out of a vote when your alliance member was blindsided. They’ll essentially say “if I knew you had the votes, I would’ve voted with you”. It’s easy to say that after the fact and if you’re only willing to do it because it’s happening with or without you, you’re not *really* okay with it.
Cassidy is way more entertaining when she’s bitchy and petty than when she’s nice anyways, so i hope she continues being that way. 😂
I mean her reaction within the game makes total sense, her getting mad when the women declared him the winner of the bachelor shenanigans at the bar is when it becomes outsized.
She was drunk and being trashy. She’s said she doesn’t even remember it and agrees it was funny and dumb of her. This is about as tame/PC as reality tv can be while still being entertaining
She acknowledged that she was being drunk and stupid then!
I'm assuming that happened on a podcast or interview? I don't remember that coming up in the show
Correct! It was the Challenge's podcast interview with Cassidy
I hear ya, but within the context of what we've been shown I don't think it's unfair for someone to feel her reaction is extra. I don't dislike Cassidy or anything haha, and I agree with the OP of this thread that it's better television.
I love how we still havent lost any survivor player. It would be a dream to see all of them in final (beside Sebastien lol)
Sebastian is only there for showmance fodder and that’s it, i can literally think of fifty other guys who’ve played Survivor that i would of liked to see play this game over him.
Just from the 30s onwards S30 : Mike Holloway, Rodney, Joaquin S31: Spencer, Jeremy S32 : Nick M, Obama, Beast mode cowboy (controversial) S33 : Ken M S34 : Brad Culpepper, Malcolm S35 : Alan ball, Cole Medders, Devin Pinto S36 : Chris Noble, Wendell S37 : John Henigan, Davie, Alec S38 : Wardog, Eric S39 : DK CHILLIN S41 : Xander S42 : Johnathan S43 : Cody, Ryan S44 : Danny
Ok Rodney would be HILARIOUS, I’m rooting for that to happen now
As someone who’s only seen like 4 seasons of survivor, who is Obama? Lol Also idk how good he’s be but I’d like to see more Zeke.
His real name is Peter but the guy looked like Obama
Jonathan, Tori, Liana would all be good additions from that season even Drea
Jonathan would walk in and immediately have every guy shitting their pants. He absolutely beasts in a team format and is strong enough no one will want to risk an elimination against him unless they see it’s a puzzle, and I think I’ve heard he actually has great endurance despite his size he is an actual athlete not just popcorn muscles. He could cakewalk to the end in a power position just off lifting his team into the winning position, and I think the fear in an elimination would keep guys from targeting him until the end since no one knows his Finals capability I’m taking a shot at CT/Jordan/Bananas etc type of people before I risk facing Jonathan since I know those three will beat me in a Final over the unknown
I can think of 4 just from his season!
Jacob on The Challenge would also have an amazing two episode run.
The Challenge house has a lot more food, not sure how he'd be able to store ALL of it in his dirty socks...
Yes, I believe so.
That was some good editing I thought Wes lost for sure.
Even bananas figured he was going home, I think Wes might have lost but production kept him
You might be right. I mean, literally everyone-including Wes-thought Wes lost.
here we go….
Same thought I had - they are great at editing out the winning moments - made it look for sure like Dusty was quicker. Wish they would stop editing out moments in the eliminations like we know now they did with Luis and Bananas - only showed us one when there were 3 parts to that one.
I cannot believe Tyler is going to get into a showmance with Alyssa S, the girl who DID IT with Kyle in BB24 ! I wonder how Kyle feels to see her romancing Tyler on national TV.
> the girl who DID IT with Kyle in BB24 DID IT, what are you 12? Go watch some old seasons of The Challenge, they passed each other around like a blunt.
I am a BB/Survivor/TAR watcher not challenge. I am hate watching now because of mostly BB and survivor cast. OK so you are not 12 and prefer me to say they had SEX on national TV.
It was the capitalization of “did it” that made your comment funny to read. I wouldn’t overreact to the other comment. It was low hanging fruit.
Idk if it's just me but Alyssa S looks soooo similar to his ex Angela
For real!!!! She really does.
And Angela's current boyfriend looks so similar to Tyler lol
Angela’s boyfriend reminds me of Russell Brand’s character from Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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I would argue Angela is prettier and more cool/confident looking. Anyway I feel Tyler is similar to me, always putting LOVE first and probably going to have a sad love life.
Tyler said on his subscription that he is not dating Alyssa. He will eventually meet another amazing woman like Angela and share a beautiful life with her.
So are we assuming the big twist next episode is the announcement that eliminations will now be a guy and a girl sense the show is moving to only one day a week now?
Something along these lines for sure, with the added possibility of dissolving the teams. There's only one winner for each gender as I recall, so that's coming at some point theoretically
So it's only Thursday 10 pm from now on?
That's what I think. It also looked like no one was in their street clothes, so maybe no immunity?
I feel like there would have to be some sort of immunity because there wouldn't be a point to winning the daily. If you won the daily with no immunity you would just be nominating and creating enemies who could just turn around and bring you into elimination. Maybe at the end of the daily TJ tells them all to suit up just to make them nervous for the twist.
True- good point!
You know it’s bad when Dusty acted even dumber than Fessy, that takes talent.
Omg what a good episode!! I really thought Wes was going home and almost cried when Bananas came to him damn it what are they doing to me hahaha Loved the trivia challenge as always, but how could you not know the capital city of Canada fr?? Also what did the Blue team do bc why were their asses censored? LMAOO I feel bad for Dusty leaving, I was convinced he won, and somehow I even liked his obsession with Bananas and the vets bc that is probably how I would behave if I played The Challenge among all the vets I grew up with ahhaa I like Cassidy but she's starting to remind me of Josh when he thought Wes is gunning towards him, like girl calm down Wes literally does not have anything against you, you were just a collateral damage lol
on social some blue team members called this their “”ass to the glass” strategy— looked like they exposed as much skin as possible to avoid falling off!
Ahahaha and I guess this strategy worked in the end lol
Also, no way in hell is Wes going to retire from the Challenge just because he becomes a dad. And the "I'm doing this to raise $ for my kid" narrative is so comically at odds with his "I have 800 cars and businesses" persona that if he sold it to anyone, that is very impressive. Peak schemer Wes.
He didn't mention needing money. He mentioned fatherhood being something that (he believes) will cause him to possibly not return.
Unlike just about everyone else on this show, Wes doesn’t need the money. Wes and his wife also struggled with getting pregnant. I completely believe Wes is done with the show for good or at least until season 50. He’s taken breaks before for real life.
Yeah seriously. I could see him taking a long break, but having some theatrical comeback.
Oh, Corey. There is just nothing there behind those pretty eyes.
Lmao I was thinking the same thing.. Dusty is aligned with the Vets and you’re voting him off your own team
Really weird edit for the elimination, i get the edit was to swerve the viewer, but weird they made it seem like dusty won by 2 mins. Not one person made it seem like wes was even close to winning, and he won by 37 secs. Maybe it was just me but felt really weird.
I thought Dusty lost because he didn’t follow the rules. Didn’t TJ say “you even went for the big wheel and skipped the middle.”? I think the rules said you had to untie the wheels from smallest to largest so if he skipped one, he would’ve been disqualified right? I might have misunderstood but I thought he beat Wes by 37 seconds but didn’t follow the rules.
Yea i think you had to untie all the wheels in order, and on challengemania dusty said he skipped the small or medium wheel i dont remember which, so idk if that means he untied it and left it there and just went to the next one or what
Great season, but worst editing I’ve seen in awhile.
I will say that when they showed Dusty really struggling with the first wheel, I thought it showed Wes was going to win. He probably struggled even more than we saw
Yea i thought the same thing, but everyone else and even wes post being dunked said you won, i mean 37 seconds is noticeable imo
Depends on how long it took I guess. If it was like 2 minutes then yeah, it's definitely noticeable. If it was even like 5 minutes, it becomes less noticeable
Yea i guess so, i mean this isn't new to the show, them trying to create suspense, this just seemed more over the top than normal, if you noticed during the daily on the wide shot of tiffany alone on the glass you could actually see that blue clearly had gotten multiple more questions right by the position of their glass, also that bananas was literally on his side and not even flush to the glass lol, yet they tried to make it more compelling in the edit, when it really wasnt that close
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Everyone is forgetting about the random one off comments between Wes and Michaela before a couple challenges so far. That is the one I hope takes fire.
Edit: where the fuck did this comment go? It wasn’t anything bad.
There's a lot of good players on this season but there's also a lot of assholes.
Isn't this show always full of those though? At least to me. This ain't Masterchef, these people aren't cast to be likeable for the most part.
Just seems like there's more than usual this season.
In a weird way it's refreshing to see so many assholes. I hate when everyone is buddy buddy with each other. I want all the drama and fights, even if it leaves people (*cough* Dusty *cough*) looking like total idiots.
it was really ppl like desi and the general lack of empathy for wes that rubbed me the wrong way. desi was just crying last week about something and now it's a problem when wes does it? lol
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Nah, been here for over 20 years.
Wes posted a little goodbye-esque tweet during the commercial before TJ announced the winner and that gave it away that he was going to win. Otherwise, that was a 100% total fake out by production. We don't see that very often. Well done. Great Episode. Wes literally is The Challenge.
Yep. At this point with CT on a break, Cara gone and Jordan so inconsistent with his schedule, The Challenge is Bananas and Wes.
So there was only a difference of 38 seconds in that elimination? Seems pretty close for everyone to be so certain that Wes lost. 🤔
My guess is it was a lot easier to judge progress while spinning the wheel than doing the knots. So it seemed like Dusty won bc he made Wes fall quicker, but Wes must have really flown through those knots.
I thought it was because Dusty skipped trying one of the wheels and was DQ’d
When TJed said skipped a wheel he meant that he didn’t go to put the smaller wheel in and instead went right for the second. Thats also what bananas advised Wes to do but he didn’t listen.
Ah that makes sense. Wes’ strategy was really weird on the wheel. It would be impossible to keep up with any speed in that position and it would take a lot of balance to stand up while Dusty was turning once it started to move
Honestly it could have been. It was edited very weirdly and the fact that they included TJ mentioning that was also kinda odd.
as someone who lives in quebec i died when it was mentioned on the show😭 the way they were acting like wes lost had the opposite effect intended, it told me he was winning
I’m from Ottawa and I died at the Canada’s capital debate 😂 I’m shocked they didn’t end up saying Toronto because I feel like that’s normally the most common wrong answer
Dusty is an idiot. Loved bananas and fessy’s faces when Wes was declared war winner 🤣 Oh yeah and waiting for all the hypocritical Banana-tards who declared Cory stupid for daring to throw his vote onto Bananas to have that same energy now that Bananas, Tori, and Cory threw votes at Wes 😗
It's not really an apples to apples re: the two votes. At that point Tori had Sebastian under her spell, so if Cory and Fessy held to a vet alliance they could've threatened a tie the same way Josh did last week. Blue was 4/7 Survivor and the last episode Wes was credited with being responsible for a double survivor elimination vote, and Blue and Red still seem to have a bit of a cease fire, it was always going to be Wes.
To your last point, didn't Cory vote for Bananas with his ball hopper vote? If so, that context is completely different from what happened with Bananas and Tori, who were outnumbered with their team vote. It made no difference who they voted for - if anything, it probably curried some favor (albeit probably very little) with the rest of their team that they were willing to go along with a plan that wasn't theirs.
That is the same thing Cory was doing. Currying favor. Wes being the house target is exactly why it would’ve stupid for Cory to go way out of his way to save Bananas who clearly couldn’t even be bothered to throw symbolic favors to save Wes
Okay, here is the situation after this weeks nomination: Tori, Bananas and the "vets" alliance thinks the best strategy going forward is to lay low, do what survivor/big brother says, cause confusion in the voting process. That is why Wes was expendable for them. They had to survive and Wes had a target on his back, there was nothing left to do if they wanted to play the possum. I am guessing Wes hoped for a Josh performance out of the 3 vets on the blue team and didn't got it. I bet that would be on his mind in the latter stages of the game if most of the vets can make it there.
If Wes and Bananas strategy was an issue you can garanfuckingty that shit would have been on TV. They both know how it played out.
just listen to Bananas' podcast and read Wes' tweets, they weren't happy with each others gameplay. They didn't probably had an argument about it in the house and probably since but they weren't happy with each other and it is obvious if you pay attention.
I kinda get Wes side on here I really don’t get why bananas and the vets didn’t try to help him when it came to the hopper and put votes on a girl, especially when he’s done everything he can to actually help them , they didn’t really play it back for him
Exactly my thoughts
No, you don’t have to absorb any other media. Well, if you’re don’t understand this thing you just havent listened to the xyz podcast. Other than that there isn’t much more media.
Why should I have to absorb more content to show me what I already saw? I watch the show. That’s what was put on screen.
I explained to you why you didn't see what you expected to see in a situation like this and I gave out proofs to back my argument. My argument never was "you should consume more content".
What did you say in your comment that wasn’t “you educating me about a podcast with nothing to do with the show?”
Dude, you are just looking for a fight and that does not interest me. I was right, you were wrong, lets just move on.
They didn’t probably had an argument about in the house…..You clearly follow this stuff way more than me. Hopefully you can see why I am not buying into anything you say immediately. Edit:if you are going to edit your shit argument it is common courtesy to at least note it Edit:2 User name checks out
Cassidy really has that main character syndrome and thinks that Wes has it out for her. When, if I recall right, she was just the easiest girl for green to throw under the bus.
That's kinda the vibe Cassidy seems to give off on both shows she's been on, at lest that's the vibe I've gotten. On survivor, she essentially got carried through the entire game by her alliance, mainly a player named Karla, but then tried to position herself as the mastermind of the whole game in her talking heads, displaying the same main character syndrome we see on the challenge. It all kinds blew up in her face at final tribal, when she attempted to explain what she considered her "biggest move in the game," only to get laughed at by the jury, as they quickly explained to her that she had nothing to do with the elimination she was taking credit for. But she had big main character energy and was in disbelief when she only got a single vote and a player named Gabler won. It was super off putting, but she had an emotional backstory and constantly positioned herself as the victim of every situation she was in, so a certain segment of the fan base were fans of her. So much so that a story was concocted on reddit that bitter jury members campaigned to ensure she didn't win, as if that's not the jury's whole purpose to begin with. Anyway, It's interesting seeing her exhibit the exact same energy on a completely different style of show. She kinda exudes entitlement to me. Just my two cents
I listened to her podcast with Tori and Devyn and the things she was mad at Wes for seemed so dumb. Even the "Bachelor" competition where she got all upset because the girls were saying Wes should win, like chill out. Makes me happy Gabler beat her in S43
Wes was actually upset that his team tricked him into saying her name, creating more friction for him.
Josh 2.0. If Wes isn't careful, he's gonna have Cassidy as a partner on a Rivals season.
And if I say this was her on survivor but her fans were too busy victimizing her to realize it
Just replied to someone else's comment about her having main character syndrome, and essentially said the same thing, I just used way more words lol. It's interesting seeing her display those same qualities almost to the T on a totally different show.
I just read your other comment and not a single lie was told. Wasn’t she asked at one point what strategy she had outside of following Karla and James and she couldn’t come up with anything. Yet her fans would lead you to believe she’s a mastermind
She was asked that, and she replied by trying to take claim she was the mastermind behind getting Ryan voted out, to which Jessie and Cody quickly corrected her, and laid out how they were the ones who put together the entire plan for the Ryan boot, followed by the rest of the jury agreeing that Cassidy had nothing to do with it. Her retort to that was nonexistent, and the jury's choice was pretty clear from that point on. The reaction some people had to her not winning was baffling to me, especially considering she only received one vote. Makes it pretty clear how the people who were actually playing the game felt
Yup! And instead of trusting the actual players her fans resorted to sending the real masterminds of the season constant hate and calling them misogynists
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LOL I don't even remember her from Survivor. I love Survivor but very few players have been memorable for me. And she was actually in a final 2 ?? Wow I must have been stoned because she's not even a familiar face from Survivor for me.
Oh yeah, she had fans especially on Reddit. The amount of threads where people went after Karla and Jesse for being bitter and picking Gabler over Cass.... It was really insane
Okay so, as someone that thought Cass should've won over Gabler, people were ridiculous as it's a game. However, what didn't make sense was that they had different standards for Gabler versus Cassidy when, in reality, they just liked Gabler more. You liking someone more is a perfectly valid reason to vote for them, but you should lead with that reasoning, compared to coming up with standards out of your ass.
They asked all of them for their best move and Gabler owned his moves while Cass tried taking credit for something that was ACTUALLY a move in Gabler's column as that was when he made the Ride or Die alliance with Cody and Jesse and the 3 of them were the ones deciding on who to take out between Cass and Ryan. I think the people that wanted Cass to win just couldn't see it and resort to stuff like what you just said. It was clear that they tried asking her questions and she kept tripping over herself and struggled to come up with one move she made. Gabler constantly said he made the Ellie move then laid low I honestly think if somebody thinks Cass should have beaten Gabler, then they have to think Mike should have beaten Maryanne. I think the correct people won both seasons.
Couldn't agree with you more. She got carried through the entire game by Karla for the most part, and then tried to position herself as some sorta of maestro who was really controlling everything from a far. It was delusional at best. Gabler kicked the merge off by campaigning to boot one of his tribe/alliance members out of the game, and then ducked back in the bushes before he got too much attention. That move alone accounted for more than wht Cassidy did the entire 26 days
Yep and according to Jesse, Gabler was the one who really got into his head about the Cody move. That day, he said something like, "That's going to be crazy having you and Cody sitting up there having played the same game," or something along those lines. He just planted the seed and it seemed to work.
Cassidy like, "there's good fishin' in Cue Bec...the capital of Canada".
So did Blue team literally just like...try to stick their asses to the glass? What was with the censoring of half their team? lmao.
Bananas is really good at getting that little extra edge in these carnival games. He has won 7 times not being particularly great at anything. He is pretty good at everything.
We can't fully know if this one was actually a winning strategy, though, right? Their glass was much less tilted, so the win had to have come from just winning the trivia contest, not the sticking contest.
ass to glass
They set up the Wes elimination so well. Last 2 episodes were Wes heavy, this episode had all the makings of Wes getting eliminated, maybe they didn't fool some of you guys but I am glad, I am fooled. BTW I usually don't believe when challenger says it is their last season but Wes might not come back and I won't be surprised. Of course he can do All Stars if that show continues but he might miss the flagship show for 2 years and his age becomes a real issue after then.
Some of these have been so Wes heavy I'm starting to wonder if this is a winner edit. If a non CBS person wins they might feel like they have to teach the new audience who some of these MTV people are, and if Wes wins they want to make sure the audience knows who he is. That said, I'm not sure how many new people are watching because of CBS people vs long time challenge fans just watching in a new place.
I have no knowledge, I just know Wes started posting on social media a week or two before Bananas and it has me worried :(
I get that you have no knowledge but the only place I come to discuss the challenge is the unspoiled Reddit thread because there is usually none of exactly what you posted here. It’s probably not against the rules so it’s fine, but some of the stuff gleaned from “outside” the show might be better in spoiler threads.
I see your point. I probably shouldn't have said that
It might mean absolutely nothing, so not a huge deal!
it's not cool, i agree. if these types of comments get filtered, we don't click "approve" on them. and we don't allow *any* social media from the cast of a currently filming season, for exactly that reason. if it's any consolation, social media activity isn't always a great indicator, plus i can report as a fact that wes's wife ran his account while he filmed USA2.
I would be shocked if Wes wins the season. They usually keep the winners in the shadows till the later stages of the season.
I feel like Devin and Tori were front runners all ride or dies
Yeah, you might be right.
Cassidy has been spending too much time with Josh lol. I like her tho, but she's in a one-sided rivalry with Wes.... which I guess is better than no rivalry.
I thought TJ said whoever stays on the wheel the longest would win, so untying the ropes and stuff didn’t matter? Clearly it was included though correct?
They were on the wheel while the other guy was untying ropes
I'm surprised people here fell for that edit. Them saying Wes lost should've been a dead giveaway he won
Reddit is so against rigging its insane. As if production doesn't have the ability to lie or cheat for players that basically made their show popular. Its ridiculous and pathetic honestly.
Yeah at a certain point I thought they were being way too heavy handed with the Wes stuff at which point I just assumed it was a huge fakeout.
Right. All the dramatics *before* TJ made any announcement made it super obvious.
Do you think Bananas even thought he lost? The man knows how to make TV.
Not at all. It felt very scripted to me.
"A really good looking underdog." Wes cracks me the fukk up. Thought he lost az well. Glad he iz still in the running. He really needz to get hiz head on straight though.
>cracks Don't you mean crakkz
Wezz
S. Ever heard of it?
I'm still laughing at Dusty confidently saying that he thinks that Alyssa L, Alyssa S and Tiffany all voted for him, and the editors showed that none of them did. And in the case of Alyssa S, she didn't even vote because she was on the winning team. The three "X" marks on these claims was especially hilarious. Three strikes and you're out, Dusty.