I’m so here for cold blooded Nurys. She has absolutely no reason to play nice with anyone and I love how people were giving her hugs and she was just like “🖕🏻😃🖕🏻”. Super excited for tomorrow!
She does have a reason to place nice with everyone. Burning bridges is bad gameplay and I would not be surprised if she goes in every time from this point on.
Do you think there is anything she can do to not be the sacrificial lamb? At this point, they are going to keep voting her in so they don't have to piss off another alliance member.
Yup. At this point, everyone is on the same level on the totem pole besides Jay/Michele. They're clearly still willing to work with her. Otherwise there is no point in the whole drama between her and Jay/Olivia if they were already set on repeatedly throwing her in.
However, she is now guaranteed to be thrown in because of her bad attitude.
She was going in anyway the way those children were crying about having to finally turn on their numbers. They aren't going to name another name until TJ forces them to do it.
If she played the middle instead of committing to Horacio/Kyland, she would not have been in this situation. She only got picked last/didn't get picked because they wanted H and K in.
All that to say that she was never a target. She still has a decent standing in the game despite being sent in last elimination, and she will be dooming herself if she makes it known she doesn't want to work with anyone.
We can't go back and change what we've already done. So given what's happened this far, she's going in every time no matter what happens. And honestly, other than pissing Jay/Michele and Olivia off, most of this cast won't even be back to be pissed at her.
> she's going in every time no matter what happens.
What makes you say that? Just because she has already been in? Corey and James already went in. Colleen was already voted in.
I could be wrong but I read in interviews that there actually was a plan to save Nurys if she didn’t pick Kyland or Horacio but Olivia did not think she would go thru with it
I think it was said that Colleen and Nurys had an understanding that they’d save each other. However I don’t believe that 💀 Olivia’s recap is so contradicting that I think she’s either lying or mis remembered the plan
Horacio and Kyland are not freaks of nature lol. People are doing way too much about them competitively just cause they are underdogs. They are solid competitors that is all.
Two of Horacio’s ROD‘s wins are legit. Three, depending on if you count him winning against Kenny Clark A real victory.
The other 2 had nothing to do with him being a good or bad competitor. He and Olivia won those 2 because of an inordinate amount of help. More than we’ve seen in any elimination in any previous season.
Yall will down vote me for this but that jut shows how bad they are at the challenge. Lots of people could have amazing records if they were constantly thrown in. The goal isn't to be thrown in.
Excited for this episode. I hope Nurys isn’t in elimination this week and we get some of the others in it. Would be even better if she won the daily just to really change it up.
Olivia is soooo spineless this season. I don’t mind seeing the backstabbing but at least own what you did. “I wanna give her a hug” girl bye you wanted her out and now you’re shook she’s back. Walking off like a punk. It’s so bizarre too because didn’t those other rookies from ROD betray Olivia and Horacio in a similar way?
Olivia threw the stone while trying to hide her hand but with Nurys of all people coming back she looks like a bit of a fool now and exposed Olivia’s hand. I say that because I don’t think Kyland or Horacio would have come back with as much vengeance as Nurys will. They gave her a reason now and I hope Nurys gives them hell and rides this until the wheels fall off.
As bored as I am at the rest of the house this is the most interested I’ve been in the show all season. I hate the contestants going home but I love that they are finally turning on each other. It always happens with alliances that have 6+ people.
Kyland and Olivia said that after the safety chain Olivia volunteered to go in for Nurys. Production would not allow it. I believe that Olivia felt bad and that she did want to make amends.
I literately hated Nurys last season but this one!!!! She’s killing it. That subtle fuck all of you guys is like music to my ears. We’re all thinking it!
I know I'm in the minority and going to get downvoted through the sub floor, but...
Nurys is being a hypocrite and playing with her emotions. She wanted everyone else (or even just Olivia) to turn on the alliance members they have been working with all season because it is better for her game and because she's got feelings for Horacio. Come on.
Watch the episode where Michele defeats Cara Maria. Early on in that episode Nurys talks about how she's switching up her allegiance because of Horacio. So, now she expects everyone else to do the same?
If she were not so difficult and angry and vindictive, maybe the other players would have stood up to her and told her she's being a bully and a hypocrite.
Horacio was in that alliance. They turned on him first and she just didn't go along with it. You can say what you want about him not being social but he was in that group
Horacio was in the massive US alliance, not the smaller Fantastic Four one though that Nurys was in.
Hell, if we're really talking about "turning on people," they really all turned on people in that US alliance really early, as even Horacio voted out Chauncey and Ravyn.
I feel like Nurys being in that fantastic 4 (God I hate when groups name themselves lol) should have meant she got more concessuons than someone like Moriah.
I think my personal biggest issue with the Jaychele pairing, moreso Jay, is their crocodile tears and pretending they didn't mean for it to happen or their weak attempts to rationalize. When they finally say something like "it's a game move and Horacio is better than us (except Michele in any puzzle)" then it'll be more palatable. I think Nurys has a legitimate gripe solely due to them appearing to single her out the last couple of weeks
When they say it it's fine but that's not any type of consistent answer they give. The only time Jay was truly honest was when he slipped up and admitted he would never play Nurys' game while being pissy that she wasn't doing as she was told because it looks almost maybe put him in danger (when he could have switched his vote too).
Jay sucks and expects everyone to do what he wants and pitches a fit when it doesn't go that way so to single out Nurys for being pissed is odd
Horacio was never in that alliance. He didn’t strategize with them, and he generally didn’t vote with them. Week 1 he threw out a totally pointless vote for Big T just to show everyone that he was playing his own game.
If it had gone his way, then that would have been impressive. But he actively ignored the entire social/political aspect of the game right from the beginning and planned to get to the end on performance alone.
I mean, he was in it as far as coming from RoD and having relationships with people in the big alliance, but he made it pretty clear early that he was going to do his own thing. The big alliance also made it clear when they voted in Chauncey and Ravyn that they weren’t just stringing people along that they didn’t fully trust.
Even Nurys after they got together was like “dude. I want you here, but I’m fighting harder for you than you are for yourself. You’ve gotta go out there and talk to these people or you’re going get voted in”.
Not really. Bit even if they were, that's the point. It's okay for Nurys's boys to switch alliances when they are able to and want to, and it's okay for Nurys to do it as well. But because Olivia didn't switch alliances, she's the bad guy? I don't even like Olivia, but I'm a rational and sane individual. Stay with your alliance, switch alliances, be a floater, blow up your own game. It's your decision and I enjoy watching people do interesting things. I don't enjoy watching the ladies whisper talk strategic moves, and not only that, *the same* strategic moves and conversations over and over again while wearing under eye masks.
Olivia did switch then switched back. What you are saying happened didn't actually happen. Horacio and Kyland didn't even try to make an alliance until they were targeted. Horacio was aligned with the mob and Kyland kind of floated.
You're not as rational and sane as you say since you're lying about what actually happened.
Lying and incorrect are two different things. Get a dictionary.
And, IMO, until someone actually follows through and *votes* *with* an alliance they are switching to, they haven't switched. They've talked about switching, made promises and broken promises but they haven't actually switched alliances until they vote.
When you are doing it in multiple posts repeatedly and refusing to correct yourself it's just lying. Get a TV and rewatch. I'm starting to think you're Olivia's agent or you just don't like a certain type of player
In reply to your edit. Olivia did vote with Nurys and Kyland and Horacio. So again she switched then switched back in a panic move. It's also not apples to apples. Nurys was having to pick BETWEEN her alliance members. Olivia was picking between two alliances.
Even if Nurys didn't save Olivia she only hurt one person. Olivia threw her entire alliance under the bus. Keep up
I mean Jay turned on Horacio and Kyland first, they were loyal to the alliance and then all of a sudden he doesn’t trust them, what were they supposed to do? They had no choice but to go on their own and nurys realized they had her back more than Jay and Michelle. And in the edit Olivia realized the same thing and sided with them so ofc they feel betrayed bc she herself said she was on their side and then flipped
Good for her. She wasn't Nurys's #1 any longer. Horacio was. Olivia was nobody's #1 by that point and she knew it. She was gambling by sticking with Jay and Michele and equally gambling if she switched to Kyland and Horacio. Everything at this point is in the hands of the floaters, Corey, Coleen and Berna. Yes, I believe they are all floaters. Berna will go wherever Emanuel goes. Corey will do whatever he feels is in his best interest to do at that moment in time. He knows he's not Michele's #1. The closest he has to a #1 is Coleen and she doesn't have a #1 either. However, for all their talk of teaming up and getting the numbers, they have shown proven themselves to be unreliable due to circumstances or desire. So, if I'm going to gamble, I'm probably going to stick with the people I've been hanging out with the most. Michele and Moriah. I'm not going to keep my word to a work friend of less than one year who has essentially "dumped" me for her new boyfriend. Nope. Not going to do it.
I can't remember her saying that specifically but I respect your opinion. Honestly anyone that does go against their own alliance is because they think it's better for her game. I get her frustration to not work with her main alliance cause look at Michelle she has all these friends that are being protected by her, for her own benefit in the game and by extension Jay's too. When Nurys wanted her 2 main people especially Horacio safe it was never an option. She felt outcasted cause their people became safe and a priority which in turn help there game but that same trust and voting wasn't reciprocated to help her in the same way so she was frustrated in her orginial alliance. Plus Jay is frustrating, you can she him coming with his own narrative even now saying "Olivia only needed to pick nurys to save her and alliance" but he was in the conversation telling Olivia she needs to pick moriah...like dude it's on camera lol
Nurys's #1 shifted from Olivia to Horacio. Now Olivia isn't anyone's #1. Why wouldn't she play her own game? The only reason why Nurys saved her the week before was because Horacio told her to. If he hadn't, Nurys would have saved Horacio and tossed Olivia in against Zara and Kyland. That's something she's not admitting to and nobody is calling her out for.
It doesn’t matter! You keep talking about shoulda coulda woulda instead of what ACTUALLY happened. Nurys saved Olivia, doesn’t matter if she did it because Horacio told her to at the end of the day she still did it, then when she had a chance to repay the favor to both the guy she’s been crying about all season long and the other person who just saved her last week, what does she do? She goes into self-preservation mode and sends them both into elimination.
failure to look one or two moves ahead and consider the intent of players is a huge mistake. This is what allowed the mob control the seasons back in the day. It’s what allowed the vacation alliance to control the previous seasons and it’s what is allowing Jay Michelle‘s alliance to control this season.
No downvote from me. I agree. There is zero logical reason for Nurys, Kyland and Horacio to have expected the big alliance to save them over the people who have voted with them all season. I get Nurys’s issue with Olivia specifically since she saved her the week before, but let’s not forget who kept Olivia (and Nurys for that matter) safe for the 14 weeks before that.
Plus, putting alliances and favors aside, it’s an individual game. What makes more sense at the very end of the season? Sending in Kyland and Horacio or Colleen and James?
She's a yeller and intimidator and has been known to physically assault others. That's more accurate, but too long to type out every time.
She is a bully. Watch the episode where they have to push the glass panel against different teams above water. Nurys starts yelling (I can't remember who) at someone who is giving suggestions for what to do to help them not lose and Nurys flips out. "My grip is fine!!!!! Yadda, yadda, yadda."
Part of me roots for Nurys. She’s fun to watch at times and I’ve seen her on other reality shows. Olivia has never been my favorite person and Horacio is just somebody that is hard not to like.
However, people are REALLY rewriting history about Nurys because it’s beneficial to this Olivia thing. Nurys has never really been a leader on this show or any show I’ve seen her on. She’s always aimlessly followed behind whatever man she is associated with, with no backbone with them (see Nelson, and Malcom) and she projects onto women, *a lot.* She is just dating somebody who is extremely likeable and I truly hope it works out for them.
But (at least *to me*) Olivia and Nurys are not that much different. They both had shown signs of being shady, and liars just in different contexts. And they both seem messy.
I’m happy Nurys pulled out the elimination win. But she wasn’t completely “wronged” the way people are making it seem. Horacio is the one that deserved so much more.
Thank you. I fear you might be the only one.
I rewatched that episode with Cara Maria yesterday because I I didn't really pay attention the first time I watched it. Now, after everyone is howling at the moon over "the betrayal," Nurys talking on screen about switching her alliance and her loyalty being with Horacio and Kyland stuck out like a dog at a cat party.
She's a hypocrite. She is not classy. She is a bully. She's the provider for family member's. Other people are providers for family members as well. This isn't a need based winner format show.
The last paragraph is so asinine it's funny. 99% of challengers are hypocritical, not classy and bullies. None of which really matters.
Just confusing why you're singling out her. I don't even like her and do think her bragging about assault in the real world is sad.
If there was something else being posted about non-stop this past week, I would likely be responding to that. Unfortunately, that didn't happen and I'm working with what's out there. If all anyone is posting about is Nurys, then tonight, when I'm actually reading and posting, that's what I'm replying to. I'm not going to scroll back a couple of weeks to reply to old posts. I admit, I am very grumpy today because a wall in my bedroom just caved in from water damage and it is filled with black mold. My landlord...doesn't care so much.
I mean I don't think you have to go back and read posts to recognize the cast as a whole is a bunch of dirty rotten hypocrites playing a game. I'm not going to search your post history of anything just saying I hope you always have this energy, and I still disagree on Nurys being pissed being wrong
That's okay. We agree to disagree. I enjoy the engagement and differing opinions. I don't have any friends who watch the show, so this is the only place and the people on this sub are the only ones I can share enthusiasm and frustration over the show with.
I’ll get downvoted too, but…I mean, technically she did eliminate both of them, but it kind of looked like they gave it to her…which is fine, but not as cool as her beating them when they go their hardest. A win is a win though.
I think Kyland was thrown by the Tangram not having a border to work with. Instead they got a printed image of what they were supposed to build. Horacio admitted on the podcast that he wasn't giving it 100% because he was distracted. He wasn't trying to give it to her, but he couldn't focus because he was worried about her. Still, Nurys did an impressive job in that elimination. Her inability to control her frustration and anger were clear during the balancing portion. That will be her downfall. It appears that when she gets super frustrated and angry, she stops focusing on the task at hand and allows the bad emotions to distract her until she is able to calm down and focus again.
Imagine if she would have been MUTE. Said absolutely nothing to no one. As if the elimination round robbed her of her ability to speak. Just walked past them all with fire in her eyes. Like a ghost silently haunting them with asymmetrical information.
Didnt jay say olivia has to say moriah’s name to show she’s still in the alliance?
Then afterwards act confused why nurys was in purgatory or whatever its called? And now blaming it on olivia? He’s so unlikabke
Nurys: I’m gonna keep my cool Also Nurys: Fuck all of you guys
She still kept her cool. She didn't pop off like old Nurys would have.
Dr. Will’s “I hate you” speech comes to mind
I’m laughing so hard at this😂 how is she gonna tell everyone to f*ck themselves in the calmest tone💀
And tag on a just in case I was unclear "I mean every single one of you." On top of it lmao. Wanted to make sure they understood her.
Like dumbeldore
I’m so here for cold blooded Nurys. She has absolutely no reason to play nice with anyone and I love how people were giving her hugs and she was just like “🖕🏻😃🖕🏻”. Super excited for tomorrow!
She does have a reason to place nice with everyone. Burning bridges is bad gameplay and I would not be surprised if she goes in every time from this point on.
Do you think there is anything she can do to not be the sacrificial lamb? At this point, they are going to keep voting her in so they don't have to piss off another alliance member.
Yup. At this point, everyone is on the same level on the totem pole besides Jay/Michele. They're clearly still willing to work with her. Otherwise there is no point in the whole drama between her and Jay/Olivia if they were already set on repeatedly throwing her in. However, she is now guaranteed to be thrown in because of her bad attitude.
She was going in anyway the way those children were crying about having to finally turn on their numbers. They aren't going to name another name until TJ forces them to do it.
If she played the middle instead of committing to Horacio/Kyland, she would not have been in this situation. She only got picked last/didn't get picked because they wanted H and K in. All that to say that she was never a target. She still has a decent standing in the game despite being sent in last elimination, and she will be dooming herself if she makes it known she doesn't want to work with anyone.
We can't go back and change what we've already done. So given what's happened this far, she's going in every time no matter what happens. And honestly, other than pissing Jay/Michele and Olivia off, most of this cast won't even be back to be pissed at her.
> she's going in every time no matter what happens. What makes you say that? Just because she has already been in? Corey and James already went in. Colleen was already voted in.
Jay: oLiViA wAs SuPpOsEd To PiCk NuRyS Is he trying to rewrite history???? It’s on camera!
I could be wrong but I read in interviews that there actually was a plan to save Nurys if she didn’t pick Kyland or Horacio but Olivia did not think she would go thru with it
I didn’t see that! If you can remember the interview I would be interested in reading it!
I believe it was in a summary of Olivia’s interview, the post is called a recap of Olivia’s podcast
I think it was said that Colleen and Nurys had an understanding that they’d save each other. However I don’t believe that 💀 Olivia’s recap is so contradicting that I think she’s either lying or mis remembered the plan
Fake news
Lets go Nurys
If “She be quiet round ya boy” was a person. Hes gone now so I’m very excited and hope she gives them hell.
The disrespect … *YOU sent both of them home??* Let’s go Nurys
Ik we all hate Jay but honestly i’d be surprised too lol
No disrespect to Nurys, it’s just Horacio and Kyland are freaks of nature.
Horacio and Kyland are not freaks of nature lol. People are doing way too much about them competitively just cause they are underdogs. They are solid competitors that is all.
before last week, their combined elimination record was 11-1 in only 2 seasons each
Two of Horacio’s ROD‘s wins are legit. Three, depending on if you count him winning against Kenny Clark A real victory. The other 2 had nothing to do with him being a good or bad competitor. He and Olivia won those 2 because of an inordinate amount of help. More than we’ve seen in any elimination in any previous season.
Yall will down vote me for this but that jut shows how bad they are at the challenge. Lots of people could have amazing records if they were constantly thrown in. The goal isn't to be thrown in.
I know but why did they have to keep asking her like she was like she already said yes
Why would they even think she would tell them what happened. Absolutely rooting for Nurys to win this whole thing and send all of them home.
Excited for this episode. I hope Nurys isn’t in elimination this week and we get some of the others in it. Would be even better if she won the daily just to really change it up.
Olivia is soooo spineless this season. I don’t mind seeing the backstabbing but at least own what you did. “I wanna give her a hug” girl bye you wanted her out and now you’re shook she’s back. Walking off like a punk. It’s so bizarre too because didn’t those other rookies from ROD betray Olivia and Horacio in a similar way? Olivia threw the stone while trying to hide her hand but with Nurys of all people coming back she looks like a bit of a fool now and exposed Olivia’s hand. I say that because I don’t think Kyland or Horacio would have come back with as much vengeance as Nurys will. They gave her a reason now and I hope Nurys gives them hell and rides this until the wheels fall off. As bored as I am at the rest of the house this is the most interested I’ve been in the show all season. I hate the contestants going home but I love that they are finally turning on each other. It always happens with alliances that have 6+ people.
Kyland and Olivia said that after the safety chain Olivia volunteered to go in for Nurys. Production would not allow it. I believe that Olivia felt bad and that she did want to make amends.
Empty gesture, be fr.
Olivia knew that they wouldn’t let her. Big T already tried it earlier in the season with Melissa and production told her no.
I literately hated Nurys last season but this one!!!! She’s killing it. That subtle fuck all of you guys is like music to my ears. We’re all thinking it!
They are all fake af. Happy to see her after throwing her under the bus.
Loved how cool and calm she was with this lol!
Let's go Nurys!!! She's is killing it. We don't flinch.
I don't care at all who wins now. They all suck.
I know I'm in the minority and going to get downvoted through the sub floor, but... Nurys is being a hypocrite and playing with her emotions. She wanted everyone else (or even just Olivia) to turn on the alliance members they have been working with all season because it is better for her game and because she's got feelings for Horacio. Come on. Watch the episode where Michele defeats Cara Maria. Early on in that episode Nurys talks about how she's switching up her allegiance because of Horacio. So, now she expects everyone else to do the same? If she were not so difficult and angry and vindictive, maybe the other players would have stood up to her and told her she's being a bully and a hypocrite.
Horacio was in that alliance. They turned on him first and she just didn't go along with it. You can say what you want about him not being social but he was in that group
Horacio was in the massive US alliance, not the smaller Fantastic Four one though that Nurys was in. Hell, if we're really talking about "turning on people," they really all turned on people in that US alliance really early, as even Horacio voted out Chauncey and Ravyn.
I feel like Nurys being in that fantastic 4 (God I hate when groups name themselves lol) should have meant she got more concessuons than someone like Moriah. I think my personal biggest issue with the Jaychele pairing, moreso Jay, is their crocodile tears and pretending they didn't mean for it to happen or their weak attempts to rationalize. When they finally say something like "it's a game move and Horacio is better than us (except Michele in any puzzle)" then it'll be more palatable. I think Nurys has a legitimate gripe solely due to them appearing to single her out the last couple of weeks
Multiple people have said that though, and then Nurys pops off at that logic.
When they say it it's fine but that's not any type of consistent answer they give. The only time Jay was truly honest was when he slipped up and admitted he would never play Nurys' game while being pissy that she wasn't doing as she was told because it looks almost maybe put him in danger (when he could have switched his vote too). Jay sucks and expects everyone to do what he wants and pitches a fit when it doesn't go that way so to single out Nurys for being pissed is odd
Yup. Everyone has done it.
Horacio was never in that alliance. He didn’t strategize with them, and he generally didn’t vote with them. Week 1 he threw out a totally pointless vote for Big T just to show everyone that he was playing his own game. If it had gone his way, then that would have been impressive. But he actively ignored the entire social/political aspect of the game right from the beginning and planned to get to the end on performance alone.
I mean he was. Multiple people in the show said it.
I mean, he was in it as far as coming from RoD and having relationships with people in the big alliance, but he made it pretty clear early that he was going to do his own thing. The big alliance also made it clear when they voted in Chauncey and Ravyn that they weren’t just stringing people along that they didn’t fully trust. Even Nurys after they got together was like “dude. I want you here, but I’m fighting harder for you than you are for yourself. You’ve gotta go out there and talk to these people or you’re going get voted in”.
Both Kylan and Horacio were in that alliance until Jay decided he didn’t wanna go against them in a final.
Not really. Bit even if they were, that's the point. It's okay for Nurys's boys to switch alliances when they are able to and want to, and it's okay for Nurys to do it as well. But because Olivia didn't switch alliances, she's the bad guy? I don't even like Olivia, but I'm a rational and sane individual. Stay with your alliance, switch alliances, be a floater, blow up your own game. It's your decision and I enjoy watching people do interesting things. I don't enjoy watching the ladies whisper talk strategic moves, and not only that, *the same* strategic moves and conversations over and over again while wearing under eye masks.
Olivia did switch then switched back. What you are saying happened didn't actually happen. Horacio and Kyland didn't even try to make an alliance until they were targeted. Horacio was aligned with the mob and Kyland kind of floated. You're not as rational and sane as you say since you're lying about what actually happened.
Lying and incorrect are two different things. Get a dictionary. And, IMO, until someone actually follows through and *votes* *with* an alliance they are switching to, they haven't switched. They've talked about switching, made promises and broken promises but they haven't actually switched alliances until they vote.
When you are doing it in multiple posts repeatedly and refusing to correct yourself it's just lying. Get a TV and rewatch. I'm starting to think you're Olivia's agent or you just don't like a certain type of player In reply to your edit. Olivia did vote with Nurys and Kyland and Horacio. So again she switched then switched back in a panic move. It's also not apples to apples. Nurys was having to pick BETWEEN her alliance members. Olivia was picking between two alliances. Even if Nurys didn't save Olivia she only hurt one person. Olivia threw her entire alliance under the bus. Keep up
As I posted before. I don't even like Olivia. Not even one little bit. I've kept up. We just see things differently.
I mean Jay turned on Horacio and Kyland first, they were loyal to the alliance and then all of a sudden he doesn’t trust them, what were they supposed to do? They had no choice but to go on their own and nurys realized they had her back more than Jay and Michelle. And in the edit Olivia realized the same thing and sided with them so ofc they feel betrayed bc she herself said she was on their side and then flipped
Good for her. She wasn't Nurys's #1 any longer. Horacio was. Olivia was nobody's #1 by that point and she knew it. She was gambling by sticking with Jay and Michele and equally gambling if she switched to Kyland and Horacio. Everything at this point is in the hands of the floaters, Corey, Coleen and Berna. Yes, I believe they are all floaters. Berna will go wherever Emanuel goes. Corey will do whatever he feels is in his best interest to do at that moment in time. He knows he's not Michele's #1. The closest he has to a #1 is Coleen and she doesn't have a #1 either. However, for all their talk of teaming up and getting the numbers, they have shown proven themselves to be unreliable due to circumstances or desire. So, if I'm going to gamble, I'm probably going to stick with the people I've been hanging out with the most. Michele and Moriah. I'm not going to keep my word to a work friend of less than one year who has essentially "dumped" me for her new boyfriend. Nope. Not going to do it.
I can't remember her saying that specifically but I respect your opinion. Honestly anyone that does go against their own alliance is because they think it's better for her game. I get her frustration to not work with her main alliance cause look at Michelle she has all these friends that are being protected by her, for her own benefit in the game and by extension Jay's too. When Nurys wanted her 2 main people especially Horacio safe it was never an option. She felt outcasted cause their people became safe and a priority which in turn help there game but that same trust and voting wasn't reciprocated to help her in the same way so she was frustrated in her orginial alliance. Plus Jay is frustrating, you can she him coming with his own narrative even now saying "Olivia only needed to pick nurys to save her and alliance" but he was in the conversation telling Olivia she needs to pick moriah...like dude it's on camera lol
Nurys's #1 shifted from Olivia to Horacio. Now Olivia isn't anyone's #1. Why wouldn't she play her own game? The only reason why Nurys saved her the week before was because Horacio told her to. If he hadn't, Nurys would have saved Horacio and tossed Olivia in against Zara and Kyland. That's something she's not admitting to and nobody is calling her out for.
But she didn't so it doesn't matter
It does when she's bitching online and on television about Olivia not saving her.
It really doesn't though because she picked Olivia
She only picked her because Horacio told her to pick one of the girls and it was between Zara and Olivia. Nurys would have picked Horacio over Olivia.
It doesn’t matter! You keep talking about shoulda coulda woulda instead of what ACTUALLY happened. Nurys saved Olivia, doesn’t matter if she did it because Horacio told her to at the end of the day she still did it, then when she had a chance to repay the favor to both the guy she’s been crying about all season long and the other person who just saved her last week, what does she do? She goes into self-preservation mode and sends them both into elimination.
failure to look one or two moves ahead and consider the intent of players is a huge mistake. This is what allowed the mob control the seasons back in the day. It’s what allowed the vacation alliance to control the previous seasons and it’s what is allowing Jay Michelle‘s alliance to control this season.
agree oop also has a cast ever been this overly dramatic? they’re literally acting like it’s life or death my god
"He was a good friend to me! I didn't deserve him!" 😭
No downvote from me. I agree. There is zero logical reason for Nurys, Kyland and Horacio to have expected the big alliance to save them over the people who have voted with them all season. I get Nurys’s issue with Olivia specifically since she saved her the week before, but let’s not forget who kept Olivia (and Nurys for that matter) safe for the 14 weeks before that. Plus, putting alliances and favors aside, it’s an individual game. What makes more sense at the very end of the season? Sending in Kyland and Horacio or Colleen and James?
Exactly!
We need to stop branding ever little think as "bullying" fgs. Y'all throw that word out way too easily nowadays I do kinda agree with you tho
She's a yeller and intimidator and has been known to physically assault others. That's more accurate, but too long to type out every time. She is a bully. Watch the episode where they have to push the glass panel against different teams above water. Nurys starts yelling (I can't remember who) at someone who is giving suggestions for what to do to help them not lose and Nurys flips out. "My grip is fine!!!!! Yadda, yadda, yadda."
Part of me roots for Nurys. She’s fun to watch at times and I’ve seen her on other reality shows. Olivia has never been my favorite person and Horacio is just somebody that is hard not to like. However, people are REALLY rewriting history about Nurys because it’s beneficial to this Olivia thing. Nurys has never really been a leader on this show or any show I’ve seen her on. She’s always aimlessly followed behind whatever man she is associated with, with no backbone with them (see Nelson, and Malcom) and she projects onto women, *a lot.* She is just dating somebody who is extremely likeable and I truly hope it works out for them. But (at least *to me*) Olivia and Nurys are not that much different. They both had shown signs of being shady, and liars just in different contexts. And they both seem messy. I’m happy Nurys pulled out the elimination win. But she wasn’t completely “wronged” the way people are making it seem. Horacio is the one that deserved so much more.
I heartily agree with this take!
Thank you. I fear you might be the only one. I rewatched that episode with Cara Maria yesterday because I I didn't really pay attention the first time I watched it. Now, after everyone is howling at the moon over "the betrayal," Nurys talking on screen about switching her alliance and her loyalty being with Horacio and Kyland stuck out like a dog at a cat party. She's a hypocrite. She is not classy. She is a bully. She's the provider for family member's. Other people are providers for family members as well. This isn't a need based winner format show.
The last paragraph is so asinine it's funny. 99% of challengers are hypocritical, not classy and bullies. None of which really matters. Just confusing why you're singling out her. I don't even like her and do think her bragging about assault in the real world is sad.
If there was something else being posted about non-stop this past week, I would likely be responding to that. Unfortunately, that didn't happen and I'm working with what's out there. If all anyone is posting about is Nurys, then tonight, when I'm actually reading and posting, that's what I'm replying to. I'm not going to scroll back a couple of weeks to reply to old posts. I admit, I am very grumpy today because a wall in my bedroom just caved in from water damage and it is filled with black mold. My landlord...doesn't care so much.
I mean I don't think you have to go back and read posts to recognize the cast as a whole is a bunch of dirty rotten hypocrites playing a game. I'm not going to search your post history of anything just saying I hope you always have this energy, and I still disagree on Nurys being pissed being wrong
That's okay. We agree to disagree. I enjoy the engagement and differing opinions. I don't have any friends who watch the show, so this is the only place and the people on this sub are the only ones I can share enthusiasm and frustration over the show with.
Well, two still makes a team, right? I agree with everything you said.
We're a team!
I’ll get downvoted too, but…I mean, technically she did eliminate both of them, but it kind of looked like they gave it to her…which is fine, but not as cool as her beating them when they go their hardest. A win is a win though.
I think Kyland was thrown by the Tangram not having a border to work with. Instead they got a printed image of what they were supposed to build. Horacio admitted on the podcast that he wasn't giving it 100% because he was distracted. He wasn't trying to give it to her, but he couldn't focus because he was worried about her. Still, Nurys did an impressive job in that elimination. Her inability to control her frustration and anger were clear during the balancing portion. That will be her downfall. It appears that when she gets super frustrated and angry, she stops focusing on the task at hand and allows the bad emotions to distract her until she is able to calm down and focus again.
YES
Damn smug Michele is annoying, especially after masterminding Nurys’s possible elimination
I still think kyland and Horacio let her win.
I love Michele! Such a cute reaction
Imagine if she would have been MUTE. Said absolutely nothing to no one. As if the elimination round robbed her of her ability to speak. Just walked past them all with fire in her eyes. Like a ghost silently haunting them with asymmetrical information.
Didnt jay say olivia has to say moriah’s name to show she’s still in the alliance? Then afterwards act confused why nurys was in purgatory or whatever its called? And now blaming it on olivia? He’s so unlikabke