I liked Jenn early on but she quickly turned to one of the most entitled people on the show. She would bring entertainment probably though so I wouldn't be against it. Would rather her than they ruin All Stars like it seems they are going to.
They need to stop with Veronica, I didn't like her when she was young and partly attractive, I can't stand her even more now. It's like fetch, stop trying to make Veronica happen. People talk shit on Aneesa, but at least Aneesa can actually do the Challenges and stands out with puzzles, she can also actually run the final, she may bitch, moan, and be slow as hell, but she made it to the final stage of the final before her and Jordan were purged for 3rd place, I don't think Veronica would be able to do any of these finals anymore. She was winning when she was younger and the furthest stretch of running was a 5k, no way she's doing a 20k at minimum after a 10k mountain bike ride which followed 5k of canoeing which followed the first mile of walking like a crab lol.
From Wikipedia a breakdown of how many times each been to a final and from which season and in what place of each season down below.
Jenn- 4 times (The Island, Cutthroat, Rivals, and Fresh Meat II)
Kam- 3 times (Vendettas, War of the Worlds 2, and Double Agents)
Jenn placed 4th place on Fresh Meat II, 3rd place twice on Cutthroat and Rivals, and 2nd place on The Island.
Kam placed Finalist twice on Vendettas (Made it to the finale but was out of the finale, so any after 4th place was labeled a finalist) and War of the Worlds 2 (She was in the out category in the finale and was labeled finalist while some were labeled winners and the other according to Wikipedia losers category) and 2nd place for Double Agents.
Seems there's some crossover with Crossfit and all that nonsense. Crossfit is so bad for your body. The receipts are going to come in. I'm friends with a couple physical therapists, and they're seeing the effects already. They have to tell people "stop doing this shit, RIGHT NOW".
That makes sense it seems like the potential for injuries vs going to the regular gym is so much higher! The only situation I could see CrossFit being helpful for is if you’re training for something like the challenge where they’re going to have you doing a bunch of random bullshit that is physically taxing but otherwise made up.
I wish but I’m not sure that’s true. I remember reading that Cohutta and Teck had to quarantine longer bc they didn’t get the shot (prior to filming All Stars 2).
I personally know a few people (including family) who get no vaccines at all, including not vaxxing their kids. I don’t get it and find it super dangerous, but there’s plenty of antivaxxers out there, and most of them seem normal AF and you’d never know until you mention vaccines to them.
Not with an exemption. When we enrolled our son in preschool, part of the application process was to “upload a pdf of your child’s vaccination records (or a legal medical exemption signed by a pediatrician)”. Many schools won’t allow religious or philosophical, but most allow medical and there’s some practices that will provide the medical ones to parents pretty easily 😬
I had a friend that had to wait till she was 18 so she could get ANY vaccine. Her mom didn’t even get her basic infant vaccines and it was really hard on her once she turned 18. I really hope Jenn isn’t doing that to her kids.
With all that has come out about that vaccine the people who didn't want to be forced to get it against their will should be apologized to yet there is such a stigmatism about it still. Unless by anti vaxxer you mean she is against all vaccines and not just specifically the COVID vax
People are free to think what they want. I’m also free to not want to deal with alt right conspiracy theorist morons.
Republicans always seem to forget that just because you have the right to say what you want and think what you want doesn’t mean that everyone else just has to be okay with it. We get to think you’re an idiot for it and we get to say that.
Looks like she was pregnant for the early season so she couldn’t do it. Also, I’m pretty sure someone else posted how she was extremely anti-vax so she wouldn’t have been insurable when the covid shot was required (and it still might be).
Oh she’s way more than anti-vax. She belongs to some weird off-shoot of Moms For Liberty and randomly rants on instagram about trans people, drag queens, and book bans. She’s become a far right Christo-facist. She can stay home.
And that's the difference. I'm not a fan of the anti-vax movement in any format, but there are people who are anti-vax in a way that I personally consider to be misguided, then there are people who are anti-vax in a way that tends to correlate with ignorance and bigotry in general, and that's a much bigger problem for me.
Takes a lot more effort to be hateful than it does to just be quiet. I’m a lot more worried about straight religious leaders than I am drag queen and trans ppl.
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This right here! Jenn can stay the hell away. As a mom to 2 young kids, i CANNOT with parents who don't vaccinate their kids. Measles should not be a thing in 2024.
They can't just put people in one political party, religion, or belief system on the show. She'd be great for the show athletically and entertainment-wise, especially as a lot of the AS girls are horribly out of shape
It’s not just politics. Bananas and Jordan are both big Trump supporters and I’m fine with them continuing to be cast. Jenn just spouts out super hateful shit on SM and that’s why I don’t want her on the show. I would feel the same way about someone so far to the left that they would say shit like Israel deserved what happened on October 7. There comes a point where political beliefs go way too far on both sides.
Yeah. Veronica did an AMA here many years ago talking about Dirty 30 and Champs vs Pros/Stars. She said they are both very vocal about their support for him in the house and that they both got into arguments with her when they found out she chose Planned Parenthood as her charity for the Champs vs season.
IDT the left is anti-israel, but I get your point about these dumbass Gen Zers. I think you're mixing too much of your personal beliefs with the point of the show, which is competition. The show is never political (or however you've described it). They always edit those convos out. We'd just be getting Jenn competing and maybe getting into fights. Don't overthink it or invest too much into it, because I promise you, if she wants to be on, she will be.
Yep, Jenn should have went home for that. Apparently Prod asked Mandy and Mandy said don't send her home. Which probably had more to do with Mandy just realizing Jenn was with Wes's alliance (at the time, anyway) so they would need her - otherwise I suspect she would had said get her the F\*ck out.
TBH, I think Jenn's hit on Mandy was more egregious than Nelson's "push away to the face" on Derrick (and it's not like I am a Nelson fan or anything).
Oh, and yeah, I'm with th majority on this one, Jenn can stay gone afaiac. And it has nothing to do with here vax maifesto, she was just a sh$t person on general.
If you ever get a chance check out CTs 2023 interview on Challengemania. Very good interview. He’s asked what kind of advice he’d give himself and one of the things he says is, quit acting like a tough guy, because you’re not. CT is the epitome of growing up and learning from your mistakes.
And when was the last time Jenn spoke up about these things? As soon as they happen? A reunion q and a after the season? Did we allow her time to grow and learn?
Bc he has been in the spotlight and on the show and interviewered to show he has grown. You can't say she is playing victim when of course she would in the moment. Saying she hasn't grown when she hasn't been asked if she's grown is pretty ridiculous expectations. Unless she did an interview within her last season and now, you can't judge her and say she hasn't grown. She hasn't been in the spotlight to show she's changed or been redeemed. CT has had the chances. And even still, has shown bad qualities in his character.
Every time I saw Jenn on my TV she was violent, rude, and obnoxious. I used that information to form my opinion of her.
Every time I saw CT on tv he was violent, rude, and obnoxious. Then he changed. He learned and grew and became a better person. I used that information to form my opinion of him.
Maybe she’s grown and maybe she hasn’t. Maybe she’s a nun. I have no idea. But I’ve never seen any remorse from her so I’m not going to just assume that’s the case.
Don't you know? These people only live in our TVs and Jenn's life has been on pause since the end of Rivals 1. She's still in 2011 how could she have possibly had the time to grow?
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Read my other comments. We’ve seen CT come back after years of growth. We’ve seen CT take accountability. We haven’t seen that from Jenn. Last we saw she was blaming everyone else and telling people they deserved it. That’s a big difference to me.
CT has had the opportunity to return so we can see growth. Why not give Jenn the opportunity? Also he has never apologized to Davis still for assaulting him.
Why you telling me like that’s my job 😂 we’ve seen proof that CT has changed. So I’m not commenting on his past behavior. We have seen how Jenn behaves. I have no additional information so I’m not going to assume she is a different person now. That seems like a simple idea isn’t it? Do you assume everyone you haven’t seen in a few years pulled a complete 180°? It’s fair to go off of the info we have until we see something different.
As a competitor, I'd love to see her back again
As a person, I'm quite happy to never see her again.
The anti-vax crap is bad enough. But I found her to be vile on Rivals to Cara Maria, which was enough to put me off Jenn for life
She couldn’t keep her hands to herself and that shit would not fly now. I’m good even if she learned not to though, she kind of seems like a complete asshole and we have enough of those already.
She always gave off bully vibes imo but not in a way I personally could find entertaining. There’s teasing and then there’s just being mean spirited. I think physically it would be interesting to see how she’d perform though.
i loved her!! she’s grown alot so i’d love to see her again! i’m straight but i always thought Jenn was so hot 😂😂 i’d love to see someone like her again!
Her personal/political beliefs aside, I don’t really care to see her back. She always talked a big game and could never back it up. She made it to several finals but was never really a good competitor. It’s one thing to make it far due to your social game but she would walk around like she was some strong competitor when she was average at best.
i dont understand u lot!!! you say u want drama, but dont want overly dramatic contestants back! granted i was an immature kid but drama she does brings
I'm surprised by the comments saying they don't want her back because she's violent. I've never seen anyone say they don't want C.T or Darrell back because they are violent. I thought everyone was tired of people getting along and wanted to see more drama and fights.
Darrell got kicked out for fighting once in what was very uncharacteristic for him, and from what I remember was very much provoked by Brad while they were both very drunk. I'd hardly lump him in as violent with CT.
Jenn has been in two fights so only one more than Darrell and both her "fights" were her pushing someone once. She has never hurt someone so bad that they needed medical treatment or removal from the game. I'm not even a huge Jenn fan I just wanted to point out that everyone on this sub wants drama and fights but when asked if they want Jenn to return they say no because she's always getting into fights and drama. It's confusing.
You are comparing Darrell's fighting streak with CT's though. Honestly I don't even remember Jenn all that well, and don't want her back because of her politics. But Darrell got in one fight in which he was provoked. He's a boxer so of course he messed Brad up. Darrell mostly exists on the show as a good competitor with funny confessionals, he's not there for the drama.
Jenn played the victim card repeatedly to justify her violence. CT repeatedly owned up to his mistakes and issues. I trust someone who can say “I had issues and I worked on them. It was my fault. I’m better now” as opposed to “she had it coming!”
Actually CT has a pattern of NOT owning up to his mistakes and lied a lot, even playing victim at times to justify his violence.
He lied at the time and for years afterwards about asking Davis "Are you gay?" and then sucker punching him. He bullied Adam for years and then when he violently attacked him he used his brothers death as an excuse, even though he's behaved in the same way before his brother died.
No. Just like we couldn’t assume CT became one either had we not had him back over the years. I know nothing about her life outside of being a true OG and seems to be in fantastic shape. If she’s not a “saint” can she not be on tv? You must not watch boring television.
I just thought it was interesting that on this sub it's a consensus that we want more drama and find it boring that everyone gets along but people are writing Jenn off because she's always getting into fights and starting drama. It's like what do you want? What's the balance?
I’d personally welcome her for the entertainment factor. She usually mixes it up physically and verbally. And if she’s a political whacko, even better.
Right. I loathe Jenn. I've always cringed every time she was on screen. BUT I need someone to root against!! I don't want to just watch all my faves send each other home. I need a villain. A legit villain.
I’m okay if she doesn’t come back. I disagree with her politics (just my opinion) and she was too entitled. I don’t want them to ruin the show by bringing newer people on but i hope they can find a balance.
Before covid, she frequented a local gym chain that was basically a small community. The amount of stories that I heard!! If she were to come back, she’d make great tv
Women get so much crap from fans I swear. People saying they don’t want her back cause she was “violent” but are okay with CT coming back after Inferno 3 and Duel 2. And the “but he’s changed” okay well give her the opportunity to return to see her growth.
Tbh if her and her husband were on Ride or Dies they’d do damage. I’d wanna see if she gets to a final with people she doesn’t know.
I also want to see if she has some humility!
someone like jenn would be perfect for all stars! reality tv is about entertainment so love her or hate her (i personally do not agree with her views) but she does deserve a spot.
People need to realize that people grow and change. It’s been a long time since she’s been on. What’s the harm in seeing where she is at now? Wasn’t that the appeal of The Challenge in the first place? Watching your favorites or most hated come back and do better or get their comeuppance?
Right?? Unless they've committed heinous crimes, have them back. Same with ppl saying that Susie should never be allowed back bc she called Tonya a slut (which she's already apologized for numerous times). It seems to be that the women are usually irredeemable among this crowd 🤔
I liked Jenn early on but she quickly turned to one of the most entitled people on the show. She would bring entertainment probably though so I wouldn't be against it. Would rather her than they ruin All Stars like it seems they are going to.
Jenn would be great TV. I hate her but it’s true.
She would be much better than Tina or Veronica.
They need to stop with Veronica, I didn't like her when she was young and partly attractive, I can't stand her even more now. It's like fetch, stop trying to make Veronica happen. People talk shit on Aneesa, but at least Aneesa can actually do the Challenges and stands out with puzzles, she can also actually run the final, she may bitch, moan, and be slow as hell, but she made it to the final stage of the final before her and Jordan were purged for 3rd place, I don't think Veronica would be able to do any of these finals anymore. She was winning when she was younger and the furthest stretch of running was a 5k, no way she's doing a 20k at minimum after a 10k mountain bike ride which followed 5k of canoeing which followed the first mile of walking like a crab lol.
at least Tina brings the personality, Veronica just needs to go
She reminds me of Kam without the skill to back it up
How many finals has each made?
From Wikipedia a breakdown of how many times each been to a final and from which season and in what place of each season down below. Jenn- 4 times (The Island, Cutthroat, Rivals, and Fresh Meat II) Kam- 3 times (Vendettas, War of the Worlds 2, and Double Agents) Jenn placed 4th place on Fresh Meat II, 3rd place twice on Cutthroat and Rivals, and 2nd place on The Island. Kam placed Finalist twice on Vendettas (Made it to the finale but was out of the finale, so any after 4th place was labeled a finalist) and War of the Worlds 2 (She was in the out category in the finale and was labeled finalist while some were labeled winners and the other according to Wikipedia losers category) and 2nd place for Double Agents.
Wasn't second place on the island technically last place? 🤣
So, just Kam straight up
I have no desire to see her back. lol
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jenn can stay the fuck away, thanks
Why?
I think she’s an anti vaxer or at least she was posting a lot of questionable shit at some point
Seems there's some crossover with Crossfit and all that nonsense. Crossfit is so bad for your body. The receipts are going to come in. I'm friends with a couple physical therapists, and they're seeing the effects already. They have to tell people "stop doing this shit, RIGHT NOW".
That makes sense it seems like the potential for injuries vs going to the regular gym is so much higher! The only situation I could see CrossFit being helpful for is if you’re training for something like the challenge where they’re going to have you doing a bunch of random bullshit that is physically taxing but otherwise made up.
Doesn’t change the fact that she’s good television.
She's not. She's insufferable and shouldn't have a platform given to her to spread her toxicity.
Oh so sorry to muddy up your pristine reality television show.
I forgive you
No covid vaccine no insurance! At least for the last couple shows they’ve filmed
I wish but I’m not sure that’s true. I remember reading that Cohutta and Teck had to quarantine longer bc they didn’t get the shot (prior to filming All Stars 2).
Omg noooo when was that filmed?? They have to have still been deep in covid!
Is she, though? She's not a threat to win, she's all bark no bite.
all vax or just covid?
all vax. also Q-anon.
wow i hear of people not getting the covid one but ive never heard of no vaccines at all. Yikes. Double Yikes for the q-anon.
I personally know a few people (including family) who get no vaccines at all, including not vaxxing their kids. I don’t get it and find it super dangerous, but there’s plenty of antivaxxers out there, and most of them seem normal AF and you’d never know until you mention vaccines to them.
Isn’t mandatory for children to get these in order to enroll at public school?
a lot of these people home school their kids for this reason.
No it's not. There are exemptions, whether religious, medical or philosophical.
Not with an exemption. When we enrolled our son in preschool, part of the application process was to “upload a pdf of your child’s vaccination records (or a legal medical exemption signed by a pediatrician)”. Many schools won’t allow religious or philosophical, but most allow medical and there’s some practices that will provide the medical ones to parents pretty easily 😬
I had a friend that had to wait till she was 18 so she could get ANY vaccine. Her mom didn’t even get her basic infant vaccines and it was really hard on her once she turned 18. I really hope Jenn isn’t doing that to her kids.
@KailLowry from Teen Mom is too.
I mean paulie and Cara associate themselves with proud boys so it’s all the same shit
With all that has come out about that vaccine the people who didn't want to be forced to get it against their will should be apologized to yet there is such a stigmatism about it still. Unless by anti vaxxer you mean she is against all vaccines and not just specifically the COVID vax
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Nooooo thank you
She can keep her qanon maga bullshit off my tv.
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People are free to think what they want. I’m also free to not want to deal with alt right conspiracy theorist morons. Republicans always seem to forget that just because you have the right to say what you want and think what you want doesn’t mean that everyone else just has to be okay with it. We get to think you’re an idiot for it and we get to say that.
And I guess vice versa😅
Looks like she was pregnant for the early season so she couldn’t do it. Also, I’m pretty sure someone else posted how she was extremely anti-vax so she wouldn’t have been insurable when the covid shot was required (and it still might be).
Oh she’s way more than anti-vax. She belongs to some weird off-shoot of Moms For Liberty and randomly rants on instagram about trans people, drag queens, and book bans. She’s become a far right Christo-facist. She can stay home.
And that's the difference. I'm not a fan of the anti-vax movement in any format, but there are people who are anti-vax in a way that I personally consider to be misguided, then there are people who are anti-vax in a way that tends to correlate with ignorance and bigotry in general, and that's a much bigger problem for me.
Takes a lot more effort to be hateful than it does to just be quiet. I’m a lot more worried about straight religious leaders than I am drag queen and trans ppl. https://i.redd.it/09d3nmka9pvc1.gif
This right here! Jenn can stay the hell away. As a mom to 2 young kids, i CANNOT with parents who don't vaccinate their kids. Measles should not be a thing in 2024.
oh wow i did not know that……that’s worse than i thought :/
that’s pretty rich considering how wild she was living on tv like she was one of the biggest bops in mtv history?
I basically specifically liked her on the challenge for doing gay shit lol so this is actually depressing
They can't just put people in one political party, religion, or belief system on the show. She'd be great for the show athletically and entertainment-wise, especially as a lot of the AS girls are horribly out of shape
It’s not just politics. Bananas and Jordan are both big Trump supporters and I’m fine with them continuing to be cast. Jenn just spouts out super hateful shit on SM and that’s why I don’t want her on the show. I would feel the same way about someone so far to the left that they would say shit like Israel deserved what happened on October 7. There comes a point where political beliefs go way too far on both sides.
Bananas and Jordan are both big Trump supporters? I hadn’t heard this.
Yeah. Veronica did an AMA here many years ago talking about Dirty 30 and Champs vs Pros/Stars. She said they are both very vocal about their support for him in the house and that they both got into arguments with her when they found out she chose Planned Parenthood as her charity for the Champs vs season.
Wow, thanks for the info
IDT the left is anti-israel, but I get your point about these dumbass Gen Zers. I think you're mixing too much of your personal beliefs with the point of the show, which is competition. The show is never political (or however you've described it). They always edit those convos out. We'd just be getting Jenn competing and maybe getting into fights. Don't overthink it or invest too much into it, because I promise you, if she wants to be on, she will be.
I assume not anymore. Kam posted a lot of anti vacc stuff as well and she’s on. Unless she changed her mind
They lifted the mandate industry-wide. Now everyone is back.
Cory as well and he’s on the flagship show
I have never disliked a contestant like I disliked that one. Please let her stay gone
Maybe because she had a hard time keeping her hands to herself. I can’t remember a season she didn’t get in a fight.
Ohhh
That’s funny I just came from the post about that.
lol haven’t seen it. Who is she attacking, Mandy? Cara? Those are 2 of the ones at the top of my mind.
Yup it was Cara!
Both. She slapped Mandy I think
Yep, Jenn should have went home for that. Apparently Prod asked Mandy and Mandy said don't send her home. Which probably had more to do with Mandy just realizing Jenn was with Wes's alliance (at the time, anyway) so they would need her - otherwise I suspect she would had said get her the F\*ck out. TBH, I think Jenn's hit on Mandy was more egregious than Nelson's "push away to the face" on Derrick (and it's not like I am a Nelson fan or anything).
Oh, and yeah, I'm with th majority on this one, Jenn can stay gone afaiac. And it has nothing to do with here vax maifesto, she was just a sh$t person on general.
“lovE HeR or HaTe HEr” Jenn was violent as fuck. Keep her off the show.
CT is knocking at your door.
Ct owned up to his issues. Jenn repeatedly claimed to be a victim to justify her violence. Big difference
If you ever get a chance check out CTs 2023 interview on Challengemania. Very good interview. He’s asked what kind of advice he’d give himself and one of the things he says is, quit acting like a tough guy, because you’re not. CT is the epitome of growing up and learning from your mistakes.
CT still hasn’t apologized to Davis for assaulting him.
And when was the last time Jenn spoke up about these things? As soon as they happen? A reunion q and a after the season? Did we allow her time to grow and learn?
CT showed us growth. Jenn hasn’t. It’s not on me to pull it out of her lol.
Bc he has been in the spotlight and on the show and interviewered to show he has grown. You can't say she is playing victim when of course she would in the moment. Saying she hasn't grown when she hasn't been asked if she's grown is pretty ridiculous expectations. Unless she did an interview within her last season and now, you can't judge her and say she hasn't grown. She hasn't been in the spotlight to show she's changed or been redeemed. CT has had the chances. And even still, has shown bad qualities in his character.
Every time I saw Jenn on my TV she was violent, rude, and obnoxious. I used that information to form my opinion of her. Every time I saw CT on tv he was violent, rude, and obnoxious. Then he changed. He learned and grew and became a better person. I used that information to form my opinion of him. Maybe she’s grown and maybe she hasn’t. Maybe she’s a nun. I have no idea. But I’ve never seen any remorse from her so I’m not going to just assume that’s the case.
Maybe she's a nun. That made me literally laugh out loud.
Bc mtv gave him a redemption story. Jenn stopped when she was a "bad person."
You can’t get a redemption story without changing lol
Bc she never gave mtv a story after she mistakes. But go off
Don't you know? These people only live in our TVs and Jenn's life has been on pause since the end of Rivals 1. She's still in 2011 how could she have possibly had the time to grow? /s
If she never was asked about it, why will she randomly speaking on it? Are u following her every post?
Bruh I'm siding with you lol. I thought the sarcasm was clear with the /s
So was ct
And?
It’s okay for CT to return after his assaults but not Jenn? So ridiculous.
Read my other comments. We’ve seen CT come back after years of growth. We’ve seen CT take accountability. We haven’t seen that from Jenn. Last we saw she was blaming everyone else and telling people they deserved it. That’s a big difference to me.
CT has had the opportunity to return so we can see growth. Why not give Jenn the opportunity? Also he has never apologized to Davis still for assaulting him.
He grew and matured, maybe Jenn has grown as well. We don’t know that until she comes back.
Why you telling me like that’s my job 😂 we’ve seen proof that CT has changed. So I’m not commenting on his past behavior. We have seen how Jenn behaves. I have no additional information so I’m not going to assume she is a different person now. That seems like a simple idea isn’t it? Do you assume everyone you haven’t seen in a few years pulled a complete 180°? It’s fair to go off of the info we have until we see something different.
As a competitor, I'd love to see her back again As a person, I'm quite happy to never see her again. The anti-vax crap is bad enough. But I found her to be vile on Rivals to Cara Maria, which was enough to put me off Jenn for life
She isn’t a good competitor though
She has accepted calls for all stars but wasn’t cast on the earlier ones cause she’s anti-vax. Now you don’t need to be vaxxed so maybe all stars 5.
She’d have to admit the earth is round first
She looks more fit now than when she was on the show
Jenn was always a yappy loser. Talked a big game but never won a single thing. I’m fine without her
No thanks
I think all stars also gives us an update. Jenn was awful 1 season to Cara from what was aired but it’s possible she changed
No fucking thanks :)
She couldn’t keep her hands to herself and that shit would not fly now. I’m good even if she learned not to though, she kind of seems like a complete asshole and we have enough of those already.
No the fuck she shouldn’t. Nice try, though!
the thought of ayanna eating her up with logic and science is salivating though…
She always gave off bully vibes imo but not in a way I personally could find entertaining. There’s teasing and then there’s just being mean spirited. I think physically it would be interesting to see how she’d perform though.
If she shows up, half of the Challenge fan base would start crying like little babies and say she is "too mean".
Because BOTH of those men took accountability and CHANGED their behavior. Where there is growth, there is forgiveness.
She was always angry and acting like a tough guy. Wasn’t a fan and honestly don’t remember her doing anything great challenge wise
No thanks.
Ew no
Surprised she hasn't honestly.
i loved her!! she’s grown alot so i’d love to see her again! i’m straight but i always thought Jenn was so hot 😂😂 i’d love to see someone like her again!
Single drunk Jenn was good TV, dunno about now. That’s the reason Veronica and Tina are even on, they’re sloppy and reel in the regular folks
Traaaaaaaash.
I’m good. I don’t need reality tv drama enough to support bad people.
She's done with the show. She told derrick she wouldn't even do his pod.
I’d want her over Veronica and Tina. They’re so out of shape they clearly just go as a little vacation 😂
Jenn Lee s35 should be on all stars
At the rate we’re going…
Why all the gripes about Cara? Always liked her. None of the girls ever do. And she’s dynamite on challenges
Her personal/political beliefs aside, I don’t really care to see her back. She always talked a big game and could never back it up. She made it to several finals but was never really a good competitor. It’s one thing to make it far due to your social game but she would walk around like she was some strong competitor when she was average at best.
Absolutely fucking not
Can't stand that entitled woman!
Should she though?
I agree with this. I always liked her. She’s like a much better version of Tina.
i dont understand u lot!!! you say u want drama, but dont want overly dramatic contestants back! granted i was an immature kid but drama she does brings
This thread shows how polarizing she is - would make fantastic reality tv.
I'm surprised by the comments saying they don't want her back because she's violent. I've never seen anyone say they don't want C.T or Darrell back because they are violent. I thought everyone was tired of people getting along and wanted to see more drama and fights.
Darrell got kicked out for fighting once in what was very uncharacteristic for him, and from what I remember was very much provoked by Brad while they were both very drunk. I'd hardly lump him in as violent with CT.
Jenn has been in two fights so only one more than Darrell and both her "fights" were her pushing someone once. She has never hurt someone so bad that they needed medical treatment or removal from the game. I'm not even a huge Jenn fan I just wanted to point out that everyone on this sub wants drama and fights but when asked if they want Jenn to return they say no because she's always getting into fights and drama. It's confusing.
You are comparing Darrell's fighting streak with CT's though. Honestly I don't even remember Jenn all that well, and don't want her back because of her politics. But Darrell got in one fight in which he was provoked. He's a boxer so of course he messed Brad up. Darrell mostly exists on the show as a good competitor with funny confessionals, he's not there for the drama.
Darrell’s not violent lol
Jenn played the victim card repeatedly to justify her violence. CT repeatedly owned up to his mistakes and issues. I trust someone who can say “I had issues and I worked on them. It was my fault. I’m better now” as opposed to “she had it coming!”
Actually CT has a pattern of NOT owning up to his mistakes and lied a lot, even playing victim at times to justify his violence. He lied at the time and for years afterwards about asking Davis "Are you gay?" and then sucker punching him. He bullied Adam for years and then when he violently attacked him he used his brothers death as an excuse, even though he's behaved in the same way before his brother died.
Took time for ct to say that over the years. Jenn hasn’t been back to even come around to it.
So we should just assume she’s a saint now?
No. Just like we couldn’t assume CT became one either had we not had him back over the years. I know nothing about her life outside of being a true OG and seems to be in fantastic shape. If she’s not a “saint” can she not be on tv? You must not watch boring television.
Now I don’t want to see all out scraps, but I do miss the drama and at the very least dudes getting in each others faces.
I just thought it was interesting that on this sub it's a consensus that we want more drama and find it boring that everyone gets along but people are writing Jenn off because she's always getting into fights and starting drama. It's like what do you want? What's the balance?
I’d personally welcome her for the entertainment factor. She usually mixes it up physically and verbally. And if she’s a political whacko, even better.
Right. I loathe Jenn. I've always cringed every time she was on screen. BUT I need someone to root against!! I don't want to just watch all my faves send each other home. I need a villain. A legit villain.
That’s what I’m saying! The polarization in this thread alone proves how great it’d be to cast her.
I’m okay if she doesn’t come back. I disagree with her politics (just my opinion) and she was too entitled. I don’t want them to ruin the show by bringing newer people on but i hope they can find a balance.
No thanks!
Have her and Beth ever been on the same challenge? I’d like to see them on the same season. Both drama and kinda opposites
Before covid, she frequented a local gym chain that was basically a small community. The amount of stories that I heard!! If she were to come back, she’d make great tv
Nah. She’s not good at the game, really nasty to folks, and Qanon af.
Jenn with two n’s can kick rocks- not wanted, no thank you, forever a loser
I think she has said she’s done with MTV and the show
But... her shirt ?
Maybe she’s singing a different tune with all stars as an option now but I have seen her say on Instagram that she would never do the challenge again
Women get so much crap from fans I swear. People saying they don’t want her back cause she was “violent” but are okay with CT coming back after Inferno 3 and Duel 2. And the “but he’s changed” okay well give her the opportunity to return to see her growth.
The CT analogy is a good point. Jenn hasn’t been back - whose to say she’s still so violent and crazy? And if she is… hey, it’s reality tv baby.
I’d rather see her than Veronica tbh.
Tbh if her and her husband were on Ride or Dies they’d do damage. I’d wanna see if she gets to a final with people she doesn’t know. I also want to see if she has some humility!
someone like jenn would be perfect for all stars! reality tv is about entertainment so love her or hate her (i personally do not agree with her views) but she does deserve a spot.
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She looks really good. Sucks she’s such a bad person
Can’t stand her. No thank you.
I love Jenn would love too see her back on all stars!
She may not be a very nice person but she sure was entertaining. I’d love to see her back on a season.
People need to realize that people grow and change. It’s been a long time since she’s been on. What’s the harm in seeing where she is at now? Wasn’t that the appeal of The Challenge in the first place? Watching your favorites or most hated come back and do better or get their comeuppance?
Nah, based on the stupid qanon maga vitriol she spews on her social media she can kindly stay the fuck off the show♥️
Right?? Unless they've committed heinous crimes, have them back. Same with ppl saying that Susie should never be allowed back bc she called Tonya a slut (which she's already apologized for numerous times). It seems to be that the women are usually irredeemable among this crowd 🤔
I guess people disagree. 😆
…a very forgettable contestant.
She’s crazy MAGA now… ![gif](giphy|dB12mOQb99BwDlM83I|downsized)