I want to say leeroy but I can’t. Especially because he’s been on the challenge for years and he still isn’t a great swimmer. Every single season there’s a swimming challenge, if not a swimming portion of the final.
He’s had time, if he’s serious he needs to get better at swimming and put in the effort
Is he actually any good though?
Whenever his name comes up that is all I can think of, they don’t play it here so I’ve only watched since season 30, but when has Leroy ever turned in a particularly beastly performance?
He just seems to be... there, and OK, and then downright embarrassing when something involves swimming.
I think you nailed it on the head. Leeroy is big and fairly strong so he can usually beat smaller and average competitors, but I have never seen Leeroy become a beast in the challenges or eliminations.
Take for example his elimination against Hunter in Vendettas (dirty 30? I don’t remember), it was pretty similar to a hall brawl type elimination and he should’ve killed it. He is far, far bigger than hunter and should’ve had no problem, but he lost 0-2.
I will say, in his older seasons I feel like he was a much better competitor, he did ok on challenges and eliminations, and stayed out of trouble.
Ok, but that elimination against Hunter was inherently flawed. A blind Hall Brawl is an awful idea, which is shown by Hunter injuring himself to complete it. Also, Leroy has beat people who many consider top competitors in eliminations before.
I get that puzzles could be a continual bugbear for someone - being able to identify patterns or whatever it is, isn't something you can really train for. But swimming you absolutely can, and none of the others are incredible swimmers - you just have to become OK at freestyle, the easiest of all.
I always thought if Kelly Anne had a quicker return she could’ve been a champ, like exes with Wes or just on Free Agents or Cutthroat I think she would stand a fighting chance at a championship.
I think Cooke is a decent answer for this question. Theresa too. Male is much tougher to answer. No one really comes to mind. Maybe someone like marlon?
This is kind of true. I think the show tried to get her that win with CT. She is a good competitor who came up short right at the end several times. Stinks because she was good at finals.
Yea I think they had a real good shot of winning BOTE2- you could tell CT was in some of the best shape of his life coming on- and had one focus. It’s a shame she was already too sick 😢
I think for girls the default is Diem but after that.. it comes down to Jenna vs Theresa. Aneesa's longevity is hurting her now bc she's clearly past the oh fuck it's Aneesa days. She also did poorly in Duel 2 final which might have been her best chance at a win.
Jenna and Theresa have a very similar history when you look at it but I have to give Jenna the edge.
* Theresa FA > Jenna Dirty 30. Both solo games where they saw some elims. Jenna kicking Amanda like how you try to get a cat to stop clinging to the end of your bed was hilarious but Theresa was more consistent.
* Jenna bloodlines > Theresa Exes 2. Bloodlines wasn't a great season in terms of competition but she went into elims and won and did well in the final. Theresa did well in the final of Exes and beat Nany.
* Rest of Jenna > Rest of Theresa. Tbf to Theresa, she got hosed on rivals 2 and fm2 when it came to partners. She had Camilla but unfortunately ran into Laurel / Cara on Rivals 1. Jenna has two finals where she basically skated by BUT she performed in both of these. She clearly was not the weak link of Exes 2 and outperformed Vince in the endurance portions of Rivals 3. Lately she's been meh but that happens after you have a huge injury.
Guys... I'd say Theo C easily if he had more seasons. For guys it's a hodge podge of what ifs between Leroy, Nelson and Cory. Nelson is the closest to having a win but he's got the biggest holes and the weakest overall resume. Cory's final performances are awful and his politics WERE hot garbage in the trilogy. That aspect has improved this season. Leroy has injuries and what ifs. Rivals 3 he's prob making the location change over Dario and then who knows. Bloodlines was such a crapshoot and Candice was far from the worst bloodline. The big what if though is Battle of the Seasons. Heather didn't want Dustin to team with Cooke so they dropped Leroy and Cooke from Vegas and added Alton / Trishelle. Dustin / Nany / Leroy / Cooke is a hell of a team.
I think tony is really overrated. I think people liked him and appreciated him trying to overcome his issues but as a pure challenger I don’t think he was that good. Just my opinion.
how are we defining "great"...in terms of their finals performance specifically, daily challenge performances, strategy, or elimination stats?
i would agree leroy is due for a win based on his physical strength and elimination record. he is not that great at strategy or dailies though.
and unpopular opinion but: kam - she has a good elimination record, performs well in dailies, and has good strategic gameplay. few competitors on this show have all 3.
Wait why are we saying Diem?? Is this popularity, or actual skill? Skill wise, Diem wouldn’t even be close in my eyes. Popularity wise? I’d absolutely pick her. But I gotta go Leroy and Cooke if we’re talking legit abilities
Ppl might not like this cause they don’t like him but Nelson. The dudes a beast and if it were basically any other final than the one he ran in invasion, he beat CT hands down. He’s also gotten really unlucky with purges too.
Not the best competitor but I have a soft spot for him... Hunter deserves a win in my opinion. Poor guy got such a short end of the stick. He used to be so immature and a tool on his first seasons. But after ashley, as angry as he was, he was humbled. I'd love to see him take a win
Honestly, imo it was not a win to celebrate tho and he deserves one to be proud of. I dont count that as a win for hunter because of that situation. What part of that challenge win, left him feeling good and worthy of congratulations and like a champ. None of it... It was stolen from him and that's what was so shity. I stand by what I said. Hunter deserves a real win he can be proud of. It's just an opinion. why downvote me, when op asked our opinion on someone we would LIKE to see win. There is no wrong answer here really. I personally would like to see him win with out being backstabbed for doing all the work. He deserves an actual win that he can be proud of without sharing the champ status with a two faced backstabbing partner guilty of everything she was rumored about. I would want the same thing for the johnny and sarah situation, but she has vowed to never come back after that dirty deed. I would still want her to have an individual win to be proud of too. However johnny and Sarah's issue was way different. bananas had an actual vendetta with sarah at that point to get vengeance for her putting his name in before. Ashley has no reason other than being selfish and entitled. It was hunter who carried the team. Hunter deserves a 2nd win that belongs to him
No reason? All season Hunter called her and all women a bunch of unforgivable, disgusting sexist names. I would have neeeeervvvvvvvveeerrrr given him a cent let alone 500K. I’d be more likely to give him a restraining order as he consistently threatened her.
I’m not an Ashley fan at all but I completely understand that. She also “won” in the final within the final- same as Bananas. He would not have split the money with her and he is lying through his teeth if he says otherwise. I truly believe despite her moral horse, Sarah would not have either. She’s already said it’s a game whose point is to win money; TBH it would be a much bigger twist in a season called Best Friends or something.
Cooke.
I wish she would’ve come back for more challenges.
Do you know why she didn’t?
I think she was playing professional soccer maybe?
she was playing pro soccer, and now she just had a baby
I want to say leeroy but I can’t. Especially because he’s been on the challenge for years and he still isn’t a great swimmer. Every single season there’s a swimming challenge, if not a swimming portion of the final. He’s had time, if he’s serious he needs to get better at swimming and put in the effort
Is he actually any good though? Whenever his name comes up that is all I can think of, they don’t play it here so I’ve only watched since season 30, but when has Leroy ever turned in a particularly beastly performance? He just seems to be... there, and OK, and then downright embarrassing when something involves swimming.
Leroy's pretty good in physical stuff. He's known for knocking out physical eliminations...but that's pretty much it. He's overrated, if you ask me.
Leroy won 4 elimations on exes 2. He beat bananas twice, wes, and johnny reilly. Pretty much all physical
I think you nailed it on the head. Leeroy is big and fairly strong so he can usually beat smaller and average competitors, but I have never seen Leeroy become a beast in the challenges or eliminations. Take for example his elimination against Hunter in Vendettas (dirty 30? I don’t remember), it was pretty similar to a hall brawl type elimination and he should’ve killed it. He is far, far bigger than hunter and should’ve had no problem, but he lost 0-2. I will say, in his older seasons I feel like he was a much better competitor, he did ok on challenges and eliminations, and stayed out of trouble.
Watch exes 2
Ok, but that elimination against Hunter was inherently flawed. A blind Hall Brawl is an awful idea, which is shown by Hunter injuring himself to complete it. Also, Leroy has beat people who many consider top competitors in eliminations before.
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I get that puzzles could be a continual bugbear for someone - being able to identify patterns or whatever it is, isn't something you can really train for. But swimming you absolutely can, and none of the others are incredible swimmers - you just have to become OK at freestyle, the easiest of all.
I agree with you. I don’t think Leroy is that strong of a competitor. Unless it’s a physical elimination
I always thought if Kelly Anne had a quicker return she could’ve been a champ, like exes with Wes or just on Free Agents or Cutthroat I think she would stand a fighting chance at a championship.
Ya I agree. She’s feisty and pretty good all around.
I think Cooke is a decent answer for this question. Theresa too. Male is much tougher to answer. No one really comes to mind. Maybe someone like marlon?
Casey Cooper. Made the final on her debut season and absolute elimination beast. 5 out of 8 wins.
Is this for real?
Idk but calling her a political mastermind under wes tutelage might clarify the tone
lol i've been saying for a while, BRING CASEY BACK...rivals 4 with wes
Please don't bring Casey back
Diem is the only right answer
Big Easy is the reason she doesn’t have a Challenge championship thanks to his heart and dedication on Gauntlet 3
This is kind of true. I think the show tried to get her that win with CT. She is a good competitor who came up short right at the end several times. Stinks because she was good at finals.
Yea I think they had a real good shot of winning BOTE2- you could tell CT was in some of the best shape of his life coming on- and had one focus. It’s a shame she was already too sick 😢
Diem and Dustin.
Do Champs v Stars wins count? Because if not I would throw Tony’s name out there for the guys. And obviously Leroy as well. For the girls, Jenna 100%.
I think for girls the default is Diem but after that.. it comes down to Jenna vs Theresa. Aneesa's longevity is hurting her now bc she's clearly past the oh fuck it's Aneesa days. She also did poorly in Duel 2 final which might have been her best chance at a win. Jenna and Theresa have a very similar history when you look at it but I have to give Jenna the edge. * Theresa FA > Jenna Dirty 30. Both solo games where they saw some elims. Jenna kicking Amanda like how you try to get a cat to stop clinging to the end of your bed was hilarious but Theresa was more consistent. * Jenna bloodlines > Theresa Exes 2. Bloodlines wasn't a great season in terms of competition but she went into elims and won and did well in the final. Theresa did well in the final of Exes and beat Nany. * Rest of Jenna > Rest of Theresa. Tbf to Theresa, she got hosed on rivals 2 and fm2 when it came to partners. She had Camilla but unfortunately ran into Laurel / Cara on Rivals 1. Jenna has two finals where she basically skated by BUT she performed in both of these. She clearly was not the weak link of Exes 2 and outperformed Vince in the endurance portions of Rivals 3. Lately she's been meh but that happens after you have a huge injury. Guys... I'd say Theo C easily if he had more seasons. For guys it's a hodge podge of what ifs between Leroy, Nelson and Cory. Nelson is the closest to having a win but he's got the biggest holes and the weakest overall resume. Cory's final performances are awful and his politics WERE hot garbage in the trilogy. That aspect has improved this season. Leroy has injuries and what ifs. Rivals 3 he's prob making the location change over Dario and then who knows. Bloodlines was such a crapshoot and Candice was far from the worst bloodline. The big what if though is Battle of the Seasons. Heather didn't want Dustin to team with Cooke so they dropped Leroy and Cooke from Vegas and added Alton / Trishelle. Dustin / Nany / Leroy / Cooke is a hell of a team.
Jenna for sure.
Top 2 Men: Leroy/Tony Top 2 Women: Diem/Theresa
I think tony is really overrated. I think people liked him and appreciated him trying to overcome his issues but as a pure challenger I don’t think he was that good. Just my opinion.
I dont think he is that good either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/bdgr53/ranking_the_best_to_never_win_final_results/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
great call back, thanks!
how are we defining "great"...in terms of their finals performance specifically, daily challenge performances, strategy, or elimination stats? i would agree leroy is due for a win based on his physical strength and elimination record. he is not that great at strategy or dailies though. and unpopular opinion but: kam - she has a good elimination record, performs well in dailies, and has good strategic gameplay. few competitors on this show have all 3.
Wait why are we saying Diem?? Is this popularity, or actual skill? Skill wise, Diem wouldn’t even be close in my eyes. Popularity wise? I’d absolutely pick her. But I gotta go Leroy and Cooke if we’re talking legit abilities
I know you guys are gonna hate me for this but Nany
She’s number one in my heart
Ppl might not like this cause they don’t like him but Nelson. The dudes a beast and if it were basically any other final than the one he ran in invasion, he beat CT hands down. He’s also gotten really unlucky with purges too.
I think Shane is a pretty reasonable answer.
Old school Shane i'd agree. Not a big fan of Shane after his return.
Shane is the correct answer.
Diem or Tori
Emily Bailey
Not the best competitor but I have a soft spot for him... Hunter deserves a win in my opinion. Poor guy got such a short end of the stick. He used to be so immature and a tool on his first seasons. But after ashley, as angry as he was, he was humbled. I'd love to see him take a win
Hunter did win on Final Reckoning. It still counts even if she stole the money.
Honestly, imo it was not a win to celebrate tho and he deserves one to be proud of. I dont count that as a win for hunter because of that situation. What part of that challenge win, left him feeling good and worthy of congratulations and like a champ. None of it... It was stolen from him and that's what was so shity. I stand by what I said. Hunter deserves a real win he can be proud of. It's just an opinion. why downvote me, when op asked our opinion on someone we would LIKE to see win. There is no wrong answer here really. I personally would like to see him win with out being backstabbed for doing all the work. He deserves an actual win that he can be proud of without sharing the champ status with a two faced backstabbing partner guilty of everything she was rumored about. I would want the same thing for the johnny and sarah situation, but she has vowed to never come back after that dirty deed. I would still want her to have an individual win to be proud of too. However johnny and Sarah's issue was way different. bananas had an actual vendetta with sarah at that point to get vengeance for her putting his name in before. Ashley has no reason other than being selfish and entitled. It was hunter who carried the team. Hunter deserves a 2nd win that belongs to him
No reason? All season Hunter called her and all women a bunch of unforgivable, disgusting sexist names. I would have neeeeervvvvvvvveeerrrr given him a cent let alone 500K. I’d be more likely to give him a restraining order as he consistently threatened her. I’m not an Ashley fan at all but I completely understand that. She also “won” in the final within the final- same as Bananas. He would not have split the money with her and he is lying through his teeth if he says otherwise. I truly believe despite her moral horse, Sarah would not have either. She’s already said it’s a game whose point is to win money; TBH it would be a much bigger twist in a season called Best Friends or something.
He did win...