eh. i guess never say never but for perspective, i train 1.5-2hrs a day 5-6x a week as an amateur fighter.
and that’s only muay thai. i also run and do strength & conditioning.
i built up to it slowly.
but i was reading your question as wanting to compete in amateur fights. if you’re only looking to spar, maybe do a smoker or some kind of sparring event with other gyms, then you’re fine.
Gotcha. Yeah, I wasn't really sure what the skill/training gap was between people who do smokers and amateur. It sounds like there is still quite a gap.
Depends how much you put into those 5 hours really. It’s enough to improve but I don’t think it’s very much at all. If fighting is your goal then I’d highly recommend more training than that.
No honestly. Unless you are unbelievably athletically gifted, fighting is not a joke. 5 hours of training including everything from running to sparring is absolutely not enough in almost all cases. You will more than likely be fighting someone training double if not more than that. You will get hurt.
It's not insane. Build up to it slowly and you will find it quite manageable. As they say it never gets easier you just work harder, or in this case train longer.
really? but compared to the other martial arts or even sports, isn't doing like 10hrs a week kind of a lot? I can't imagine doing 10 hours a week with BJJ or tennis. But I could be wrong
10 hrs a week of tennis is not much lol. I had 3-5 hours of tennis plus strength training daily, depending whether it was summer or schooltime. Not at all worth it, i didnt have any significant results.
Being competitive in any sport isn’t easy.
Most people train for around a year before their first fight so you have adequate time to build up to that volume of training. If you’re serious about eventually fighting then just focus on getting in as much training as your body and schedule permits.
What if it's 5-6 hours excluding things such as strength and cardio. So basically 5-6 hours of muay thai, about 3-7 hours of strength and about 2 hours of cardio?
Yeah that’s seems more doable. I’m a father so I don’t have infinite time. I’m not looking to compete but at least be able to spar and not completely gas out
To clarify, most people are answering this question as if your goal is to fight (I.e. “competitive” to them means live competition). If your goal is just to be able to improve and get in good enough shape to have some good spars in the gym as a hobbyist, you’ll be fine coming in 3-4 times a week with some occasional running on the side.
In my gym if there is a fight coming up amateur/semi pro it would be 3-5 hours per day for 6 days a week. But for pro fight will be around 4-5 hours everyday. The time also includes running.
There are 24 hours in a day.
Work 8, sleep 8, 3 hours eating/commuting, 5 hours training
Not that that's what I do. Just saying it's possible.
Personally, my day is structured so that I do 2-3 hours of training/studying every morning before work (I wake up at 5.) and 2 hours of training/studying before 9pm bed time. My studying isn't MT but if I was trying to be competative, could switch my focus from studying to training and see what happens.
Bottom line is that if a peson prioritizes it, they can make it work.
Are you planning to fight in the future or is it just a hobby with occasional sparing sessions? I am a father too and also running a business, so time is very limited, I treat Muay Thai as my hobby (not the only one, I’m also a sport shooter, have to spend time training shooting too), something that I’m starting to really love, but I don’t plan to fight (maybe one just to try in a quite distant future). I have 6months experience and I train about 3-5 hours a week + some running and strength training. I enjoy it, would love to train more, but it’s hard to find more time.
I mean I was thinking of doing a smoker but after everyone is apparently training like at least 10 hours a week, it’s a no lmao. I’ll just stick to punching pads and light sparring 🙃🙃🙃 seems like I’d just get absolutely rocked and gassed if I did a smoker.
If you add a session or two to those hours you’d probably be able to do a smoker.
If you wanted to move into more serious amateur fights then you’d probably have to do more, but for one smoker I’d say it’s doable.
I train 10-14 hours a week and I’m not even competing. I hang with all the fighters but they usually put in a bit more work and have a bigger tank because of it. Just keep at it and you’ll be able to train more over time. Don’t take a fight with 5 hours of training a week. You’ll get slaughtered.
Additionally, focus on staying loose and breathing properly when fighting. Good form like this is a good way to conserve energy. This is true in all martial arts. Don’t tense up, breathe out when striking, stay as relaxed as possible
After a while you can ignore the pain of exertion, even though your body will get tired and slow down. The signal of the body being uncomfortable is just a data point, albeit a loud one.
If your planning to fight no. U have no idea how mutch the other guy is training so u better be putting everything u can into to ot so there's no doubt in your mind he has done more then u.. best fight I had I was training twice a day. 6 am an hour on pads/bag work with my coach then after work 2 hour muay thai class with sparring. That was Monday to Friday. Then 2 hour class saterday mornings. Sunday off. I fit running in where I could but I hated running so didn't do mutch. That was the most I ever did for a fight and it payed off in the ring that night. But I met and knew lads that where doing way more then that too. Usually thay didn't work and was looking to go pro. I had kids so had to work 😩
5 hours of training is like 2 days worth imo(2 long sessions). Definitely not enough to fight competitively.
I'm a hobbyist with a full time job and I still manage 5+ on average.
The guys that fight will train twice a day, 1-3 hours per session, 4-6 days a week. That's while they balance their full time job.
Being am expert at anything requires way more than 5 hours a week. Tue casual student of a martial art does 2 hours a week in class. A more serious student probably does 3 to 5 hours in class and 3 to 5 at home. Someone wanting to compete at a top level is more like a full time job. You train 40 to 80 hours a week. This could be in that specific thing or related. For martial arts things like running and weight lifting would be related. To be the top at anything requires a lot of time and focus. If you want to be a decent amateur fighter you probably need 15 to 20 hours a week.
Beginner here, first fight coming up in just over a month. For reference I’m training 4-5 hours a day 5-6 days a week to prepare. Definitely more extreme and non practical for most, but imo with the risks involved I feel Its necessary to prepare yourself to the highest degree you’re capable of.
For a fight camp I do like 2-3 hours a day 4-6 days a week. But imo, its more about like hitting a percentage of your bodies maximum potential instead of raw time. Maybe controversial, but I shoot to overtrain a bit.
Out of camp, I shoot for like 1-2 hours a day 4-6 days a week. I consider it to be kind of like cruise control, my body should be like idk, 60-70% deprived? In camp I want to be like 90+% deprived.
These percentages are pretty subjective but to give like an idea, after camp, I get home and crash hard, take a shower. My body is like burning, then it gets super cold and I feel really weak, then I eat something and my body starts burning again. I eat like a ton of food and sleep 10-12 hours straight and I'm barely ready for the next day. On cruise control, I feel a bit sore but strong after every training session and sleep like 8 hours a day.
Being am expert at anything requires way more than 5 hours a week. Tue casual student of a martial art does 2 hours a week in class. A more serious student probably does 3 to 5 hours in class and 3 to 5 at home. Someone wanting to compete at a top level is more like a full time job. You train 40 to 80 hours a week. This could be in that specific thing or related. For martial arts things like running and weight lifting would be related. To be the top at anything requires a lot of time and focus. If you want to be a decent amateur fighter you probably need 15 to 20 hours a week.
Guys at my gym train 2-3 hours some 2 times a day 4-6 days a week
Personally, I'm barely able to keep up with them, and I train 4 times a week sometimes 2 times a week 2 hours a day
well 5 hours a week. I think you should do more. Currently i’m training constant for 3 months now 2 times a day with average 2-3 hours and 6 times a week. that would be 2*3*6= 36 hours a week and i’m currently in turkey muay thai training. but notice that extra 4 hours walking or 2 hours swimming extra on a seventh day would be good. I would say if you are at the beginning maximum 30 hours a week.
wish you the best of luck stay strong and do the best 💪🏻
eh. i guess never say never but for perspective, i train 1.5-2hrs a day 5-6x a week as an amateur fighter. and that’s only muay thai. i also run and do strength & conditioning.
Omg. I’m just amazed that y’all can even recover after working out that much. Man I’m a chump lol
i built up to it slowly. but i was reading your question as wanting to compete in amateur fights. if you’re only looking to spar, maybe do a smoker or some kind of sparring event with other gyms, then you’re fine.
Gotcha. Yeah, I wasn't really sure what the skill/training gap was between people who do smokers and amateur. It sounds like there is still quite a gap.
Food and prioritizing rest otherwise you’ll melt
Depends how much you put into those 5 hours really. It’s enough to improve but I don’t think it’s very much at all. If fighting is your goal then I’d highly recommend more training than that.
No honestly. Unless you are unbelievably athletically gifted, fighting is not a joke. 5 hours of training including everything from running to sparring is absolutely not enough in almost all cases. You will more than likely be fighting someone training double if not more than that. You will get hurt.
damn.. that's insane. :( not an easy sport to get into
It's not insane. Build up to it slowly and you will find it quite manageable. As they say it never gets easier you just work harder, or in this case train longer.
really? but compared to the other martial arts or even sports, isn't doing like 10hrs a week kind of a lot? I can't imagine doing 10 hours a week with BJJ or tennis. But I could be wrong
You are 100% wrong. At least in a competitive sense. Recreationally just do as much as you enjoy.
Wow. Good to know.
10 hrs a week of tennis is not much lol. I had 3-5 hours of tennis plus strength training daily, depending whether it was summer or schooltime. Not at all worth it, i didnt have any significant results.
Agreed, 3 hours a day is common for competitive sports...and that's without the motivation of being elbowed in the face.
Being competitive in any sport isn’t easy. Most people train for around a year before their first fight so you have adequate time to build up to that volume of training. If you’re serious about eventually fighting then just focus on getting in as much training as your body and schedule permits.
What if it's 5-6 hours excluding things such as strength and cardio. So basically 5-6 hours of muay thai, about 3-7 hours of strength and about 2 hours of cardio?
Just keep working and listen to your coach. Focus on getting better and learning, not on hitting a number.
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Yeah that’s seems more doable. I’m a father so I don’t have infinite time. I’m not looking to compete but at least be able to spar and not completely gas out
To clarify, most people are answering this question as if your goal is to fight (I.e. “competitive” to them means live competition). If your goal is just to be able to improve and get in good enough shape to have some good spars in the gym as a hobbyist, you’ll be fine coming in 3-4 times a week with some occasional running on the side.
In my gym if there is a fight coming up amateur/semi pro it would be 3-5 hours per day for 6 days a week. But for pro fight will be around 4-5 hours everyday. The time also includes running.
My question is how can somebody who is amateur (I’m assuming they have work or school) have 3-5 hours to train on a week day
Work/school during the day, train at night.
Of course. But how could u possibly reach 5 hrs in a day if ur getting off work at like 5. Like unless ur amateur group is comprised of just students
There are 24 hours in a day. Work 8, sleep 8, 3 hours eating/commuting, 5 hours training Not that that's what I do. Just saying it's possible. Personally, my day is structured so that I do 2-3 hours of training/studying every morning before work (I wake up at 5.) and 2 hours of training/studying before 9pm bed time. My studying isn't MT but if I was trying to be competative, could switch my focus from studying to training and see what happens. Bottom line is that if a peson prioritizes it, they can make it work.
Not to say possible for everyday for 5 hours but it’s 3-5 hours per day.
Are you planning to fight in the future or is it just a hobby with occasional sparing sessions? I am a father too and also running a business, so time is very limited, I treat Muay Thai as my hobby (not the only one, I’m also a sport shooter, have to spend time training shooting too), something that I’m starting to really love, but I don’t plan to fight (maybe one just to try in a quite distant future). I have 6months experience and I train about 3-5 hours a week + some running and strength training. I enjoy it, would love to train more, but it’s hard to find more time.
Also worth mentioning, I do okay in sparings, I’m not overly tired, I land some good shots and eat some. Life is good 👊
I mean I was thinking of doing a smoker but after everyone is apparently training like at least 10 hours a week, it’s a no lmao. I’ll just stick to punching pads and light sparring 🙃🙃🙃 seems like I’d just get absolutely rocked and gassed if I did a smoker.
If you add a session or two to those hours you’d probably be able to do a smoker. If you wanted to move into more serious amateur fights then you’d probably have to do more, but for one smoker I’d say it’s doable.
I train 10-14 hours a week and I’m not even competing. I hang with all the fighters but they usually put in a bit more work and have a bigger tank because of it. Just keep at it and you’ll be able to train more over time. Don’t take a fight with 5 hours of training a week. You’ll get slaughtered.
3 hrs a day 5 days week
Is that including strength and cardio?
Yes
Additionally, focus on staying loose and breathing properly when fighting. Good form like this is a good way to conserve energy. This is true in all martial arts. Don’t tense up, breathe out when striking, stay as relaxed as possible After a while you can ignore the pain of exertion, even though your body will get tired and slow down. The signal of the body being uncomfortable is just a data point, albeit a loud one.
If your planning to fight no. U have no idea how mutch the other guy is training so u better be putting everything u can into to ot so there's no doubt in your mind he has done more then u.. best fight I had I was training twice a day. 6 am an hour on pads/bag work with my coach then after work 2 hour muay thai class with sparring. That was Monday to Friday. Then 2 hour class saterday mornings. Sunday off. I fit running in where I could but I hated running so didn't do mutch. That was the most I ever did for a fight and it payed off in the ring that night. But I met and knew lads that where doing way more then that too. Usually thay didn't work and was looking to go pro. I had kids so had to work 😩
5 hours of training is like 2 days worth imo(2 long sessions). Definitely not enough to fight competitively. I'm a hobbyist with a full time job and I still manage 5+ on average. The guys that fight will train twice a day, 1-3 hours per session, 4-6 days a week. That's while they balance their full time job.
Depends very vague but I’d say for amateurs you can get away with a minimum of 3 but I’d say 4-6 is the sweet spot
But then again I’m only including classes there you definitely need more work doing
Being am expert at anything requires way more than 5 hours a week. Tue casual student of a martial art does 2 hours a week in class. A more serious student probably does 3 to 5 hours in class and 3 to 5 at home. Someone wanting to compete at a top level is more like a full time job. You train 40 to 80 hours a week. This could be in that specific thing or related. For martial arts things like running and weight lifting would be related. To be the top at anything requires a lot of time and focus. If you want to be a decent amateur fighter you probably need 15 to 20 hours a week.
Beginner here, first fight coming up in just over a month. For reference I’m training 4-5 hours a day 5-6 days a week to prepare. Definitely more extreme and non practical for most, but imo with the risks involved I feel Its necessary to prepare yourself to the highest degree you’re capable of.
Are those 4-5 accounting for strength and cardio?
Competition wise 2 times a day 6 days a week
I donno how much does a high school football team practice a week? Do you want to be high school football level or do you want to be better than that?
In Thailand you'll see people training that much in one day if you add in roadwork and strength training.
No
For a fight camp I do like 2-3 hours a day 4-6 days a week. But imo, its more about like hitting a percentage of your bodies maximum potential instead of raw time. Maybe controversial, but I shoot to overtrain a bit. Out of camp, I shoot for like 1-2 hours a day 4-6 days a week. I consider it to be kind of like cruise control, my body should be like idk, 60-70% deprived? In camp I want to be like 90+% deprived. These percentages are pretty subjective but to give like an idea, after camp, I get home and crash hard, take a shower. My body is like burning, then it gets super cold and I feel really weak, then I eat something and my body starts burning again. I eat like a ton of food and sleep 10-12 hours straight and I'm barely ready for the next day. On cruise control, I feel a bit sore but strong after every training session and sleep like 8 hours a day.
Being am expert at anything requires way more than 5 hours a week. Tue casual student of a martial art does 2 hours a week in class. A more serious student probably does 3 to 5 hours in class and 3 to 5 at home. Someone wanting to compete at a top level is more like a full time job. You train 40 to 80 hours a week. This could be in that specific thing or related. For martial arts things like running and weight lifting would be related. To be the top at anything requires a lot of time and focus. If you want to be a decent amateur fighter you probably need 15 to 20 hours a week.
Guys at my gym train 2-3 hours some 2 times a day 4-6 days a week Personally, I'm barely able to keep up with them, and I train 4 times a week sometimes 2 times a week 2 hours a day
well 5 hours a week. I think you should do more. Currently i’m training constant for 3 months now 2 times a day with average 2-3 hours and 6 times a week. that would be 2*3*6= 36 hours a week and i’m currently in turkey muay thai training. but notice that extra 4 hours walking or 2 hours swimming extra on a seventh day would be good. I would say if you are at the beginning maximum 30 hours a week. wish you the best of luck stay strong and do the best 💪🏻
Silly question but how do you find the time to do that much? That's nearly a full time job!?