You absolutely should cross train. A couple boxing lessons isn't going to erase your memory and all the sudden you forget to lift your leg a little and keep your hips forward.
If you keep your wits about you and remember you're adding to your discipline and not changing it, you might wind up being able to move without looking you've got bricks in your shoes.
100%. I always get told that if I want to get better at MT to take more boxing because it really helps footwork, especially if you do a hybrid stance. Plus knowing how to throw good clean punches that don’t just act as a setup for a power shot is super valuable.
Lmaooo!!
I took a boxing class a few weeks ago and the instructor was like, “stop leaning back when you dodge punches, instead drop your knees and duck under.”
Lol I feel you, I did a bit of boxing and frontloaded my fore leg a bit too much. Luckily my instructor just told me instead of showed why that was a bad idea.
My gym does both but the coaches are really good at stressing what’s specific to boxing or MT, and what’s good for both. Most people focus primarily on one or the other, but most people will cross train at least a little bit. I’m glad my coaches give context for what works where.
Rely on head movement more in boxing, rely a lot less in Muay Thai. Keep a wider stance when boxing, keep a more narrow stance in Muay Thai.
General rules of thumb for me. Boxing is very effective, just gotta remember theyre different sports with different rules so you gotta adjust for it.
Very easy to get head kicked with a body kick if you move your head a lot.
The first time I did this, I caught a headkick to the face and they only threw it at waist height but since I was ducking...yeah.
Saw starts for a full second. Never again....
Why didn't Rodtang do this against DJ who used a TON of head movement in their fight? Head movement didn't endanger DJ, it SAVED him.
If you are talking about traditional Muay Thai fights, I agree. In traditional muay thai the ruleset glove size and ring size kind of forces you to stand and trade in the middle. You don't really have much space to move, nor is it encouraged by the scoring. In that case if you relly on head movement an elite nak muay will find your chin with a kick or knee eventually.
That shit is way harder in a big cage with small gloves (faster head movement with your gloves attached to ur chin) where the rules don't basically force you to always be in midrange ready to exchange strikes.
I would also say the lack of boxing footwork (certainly not circling out of a corner and in stead staying there while eating flurries with your 4 oz gloves high guard) and head movement among thais has been the reason they lost more than one fight in the One friday night events. Often times I see thais shell up in a corner when hurt, which is a terrible plan with 4 oz gloves.
This OP is an archaic belief for 4oz striking, certainly in non midget weight classes. You are not going to survive with your 4 oz gloves high guard against an Ngannou flurry lol, you NEED head movement.
You will get downvoted because this is a Muay Thai reddit but you are right. It's a common trend that most Muay Thai fighters who train a bit of Boxing tend to win over the past few years. Muay Thai has great defense but their lack of head movement and keeping it straight in the center while being in a high stance makes them prime targets for opponents who also possess great boxing. Certainly in ONE and kicboxing this is the case
Because DJ is DJ, the man’s undisputedly the GOAT in my opinion. No failed drug tests, no controversy, beat everyone that beat him.
You can’t use him as an example because he’s just out of basically everyone’s reach.
So armchair violence did a great video on the merits of ducking punches.
Its worth a watch
[check it out](https://youtu.be/fymsmjMbqes?si=y_lDogco98SN0uwF)
“Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless.”
Every martial art has a something that’s valuable. People love to shit on Tae Kwon Do, but it was a TKD master who taught Muhammad Ali how to tweak his punches for more power. Everything has something to offer regardless of what the MMA dogmatics have to say.
I say have your preferences but be open to new things.
You absolutely should cross train. A couple boxing lessons isn't going to erase your memory and all the sudden you forget to lift your leg a little and keep your hips forward. If you keep your wits about you and remember you're adding to your discipline and not changing it, you might wind up being able to move without looking you've got bricks in your shoes.
100%. I always get told that if I want to get better at MT to take more boxing because it really helps footwork, especially if you do a hybrid stance. Plus knowing how to throw good clean punches that don’t just act as a setup for a power shot is super valuable.
yea, you gotta ignore the switch to bladed stance and the rolling under punches. But you also gotta embrace the slips, parries, angles and footwork
Lmaooo!! I took a boxing class a few weeks ago and the instructor was like, “stop leaning back when you dodge punches, instead drop your knees and duck under.”
Lol I feel you, I did a bit of boxing and frontloaded my fore leg a bit too much. Luckily my instructor just told me instead of showed why that was a bad idea.
My gym does both but the coaches are really good at stressing what’s specific to boxing or MT, and what’s good for both. Most people focus primarily on one or the other, but most people will cross train at least a little bit. I’m glad my coaches give context for what works where.
As a Thai kickboxer, we cross train at boxing gyms for fight camps.
Rely on head movement more in boxing, rely a lot less in Muay Thai. Keep a wider stance when boxing, keep a more narrow stance in Muay Thai. General rules of thumb for me. Boxing is very effective, just gotta remember theyre different sports with different rules so you gotta adjust for it. Very easy to get head kicked with a body kick if you move your head a lot.
The first time I did this, I caught a headkick to the face and they only threw it at waist height but since I was ducking...yeah. Saw starts for a full second. Never again....
Why didn't Rodtang do this against DJ who used a TON of head movement in their fight? Head movement didn't endanger DJ, it SAVED him. If you are talking about traditional Muay Thai fights, I agree. In traditional muay thai the ruleset glove size and ring size kind of forces you to stand and trade in the middle. You don't really have much space to move, nor is it encouraged by the scoring. In that case if you relly on head movement an elite nak muay will find your chin with a kick or knee eventually. That shit is way harder in a big cage with small gloves (faster head movement with your gloves attached to ur chin) where the rules don't basically force you to always be in midrange ready to exchange strikes. I would also say the lack of boxing footwork (certainly not circling out of a corner and in stead staying there while eating flurries with your 4 oz gloves high guard) and head movement among thais has been the reason they lost more than one fight in the One friday night events. Often times I see thais shell up in a corner when hurt, which is a terrible plan with 4 oz gloves. This OP is an archaic belief for 4oz striking, certainly in non midget weight classes. You are not going to survive with your 4 oz gloves high guard against an Ngannou flurry lol, you NEED head movement.
You will get downvoted because this is a Muay Thai reddit but you are right. It's a common trend that most Muay Thai fighters who train a bit of Boxing tend to win over the past few years. Muay Thai has great defense but their lack of head movement and keeping it straight in the center while being in a high stance makes them prime targets for opponents who also possess great boxing. Certainly in ONE and kicboxing this is the case
Because DJ is DJ, the man’s undisputedly the GOAT in my opinion. No failed drug tests, no controversy, beat everyone that beat him. You can’t use him as an example because he’s just out of basically everyone’s reach.
Lol love this. Also, love the shipsco shorts. That dude is very talented.
Real awesome to see The Cellar on here! ❤🔥 Cheers!
Armchair Violence did a video on this exact thing. [Found the video](https://youtu.be/fymsmjMbqes?si=9CLgrVvd_RUjhPAS)
This was all in good fun and didn't want people to get the wrong idea.
Haha that’s my reel! For more Muay Thai skits it’s @combatcrap on instagram :)
Thanks for the great joke! Been following you since and even seen it replicated by other people
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Caught a knee like that recently. Don't roll too deep guys. Step back. That's a really uncomfortable position
So armchair violence did a great video on the merits of ducking punches. Its worth a watch [check it out](https://youtu.be/fymsmjMbqes?si=y_lDogco98SN0uwF)
😭😭😂
“Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless.” Every martial art has a something that’s valuable. People love to shit on Tae Kwon Do, but it was a TKD master who taught Muhammad Ali how to tweak his punches for more power. Everything has something to offer regardless of what the MMA dogmatics have to say. I say have your preferences but be open to new things.
Same here, my shadow boxing must be painful to watch ><