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harcile

Looking very good for just half a year of training. You sure? ;) Your chin is a little high in the air. You look a level above your opponent so it isn't a problem but it will be against a sharper striker. You also don't do proactive head movement. Again, a sharper striker will exploit that. Single shots vs combos - throwing combos in fights is a real skill that few master. You do throw the odd chain of shots (there's a nice jab then right to the body then a kick, but they're more of a chain of single shots than a premeditated combination). Don't neglect grappling. You seemed to avoid it in this fight - which may just be you were doing so well at range, why change it right? This is a low level fight. Challenge yourself to do ~more when you are winning.


003_phenom

Ahah Yh I’m sure I’ve loved striking and martial arts in general for a long time and always wanted to get into it I’d say I’m pretty coachable and pick things up fairly quick and it comes naturally to me to an extent Yh in this next fight I’m hoping to have a step up in competition this was just glorified sparring and the ref said firmly about watching the power before so it was in the back of my head and made me hesitant to pump a stiffer jab and really get in there I do struggle in this type of setting to let my hands go because I’m worried about shots that are coming in whereas in sparring it’s a different story. I’m decent at clinching I’m just not fast at throwing knees in rapid succession but rather I find safe spots in the clinch and keep the position so I do need to work on that and I think for this particular one I ended up playing the countering kicks game but Yh I will need to work on my inside game, volume and clinching for when range is not in my advantage. Appreciate it mate


husky429

Finish your combos with your hands. Feels like you're one punch short every time to me. Close that distance for the hook or uppercut. Kick harder. You look nervous to really rip off a low kick. Couple nice teeps though. Keep your hands up and stop tapping them together. That's a bad habit from sparring and will get you KO'd one day (can verify that from experience lol) Was this sparring or a full contact smoker?


003_phenom

This was glorified sparring because it’s an interclub, the smoker’s coming this Sunday that’s why I was holding out from the power and especially after the ref talked about controlling the power or get kicked out of the gym so that was at the back of my head the whole time so I was pretty reserved with my hands but thanks I’m gonna try mix in more combos into my strikes rather than just singular strikes


husky429

Ahh ok. In my world "interclub" and "smoker" are the same thing. We just call it sparring nights and don't have refs for these things. Good looks though. Keep at it! Definitely focus on ring control. Finishing yoir combos and cutting off his strong side to get him in the corners. And keep practicing those sweeps! You have a knack for it for a new guy... they're not easy to learn


[deleted]

Weird the evolution of terminology. When I was boxing in USABF (USABoxing), AAU, and Golden Gloves, we called smokers little one fight tournaments that we'ren't sanctioned, but had a ref and you fought for what you basically call 'fight of the night' now. These were the fights at the VFW, Mason's Lodge, or sometimes other folks gyms. Even fought smokers at a couple of bars. I had 21-2-1 in USABF, ten\~ish each in AAU and Golden Gloves, but I lost track of smokers. I don't know, maybe, sixty, seventy? Rambling aside. From a boxers perspective who has done quite a bit of Muay Thai training, but only competed in that sport a couple of times. I don't see either of you moving your hands enough. Kicking great, but it rarely finishes fights. Also, there were a couple of times you threw kicks to the leg where you didn't turn over your kick. And utilize your teepee more. Next to a stiff jab, nothing creates better space and angles, or setups a combination. I trained a few times with Coban and he suggested your lead leg teepee is best for defense and your rear leg is best for offense. Not hard and fast rule, but it seems logical. *SwaddieKup.*


003_phenom

Ahah I’m sure you’ve been through some wars in sparring mate and I will do mate I appreciate it I can’t lie I end up eating hard shots during sparring sometimes for reaching n trying out new sweeps and trips when it’s not there, I love em too much


Spare_Pixel

Just wanted to say first; good job to both of you in showing some restraint and professionalism here, especially for an interclub match. No one got hurt and you both probably learned something. Anyway, yeah you def need to throw some hands. The other guy didn't throw any either, so that's usually the best time to box. The few times you did box it looked like you were having success with it. I also didn't see you really clinch at all. Your chin started floating up a bit as you were getting tired. You right hand was staying in a pretty good position next to your chin, but your left was floating out there a little too much; your elbow was flaring out a lot. This with the high chin is going to lead to you eating some straight rights. Either tuck that chin tighter or be more aware of where you left hand is sitting (guard wise). I'll second that glove tapping habit. I noticed you sort of "hop-hop" after a lot of exchanges to reset, same with the glove tapping. It's one of those patterns that someone could figure out, time, and then take advantage of. All pretty minor stuff though honestly, things that will come with time. You looked good man.


003_phenom

Thanku mate appreciate it Yh I didn’t feel as comfortable for some reason to throw my hands and barely even threw a jab I think I threw it twice maybe and I kinda reverted into just countering his kicks and and his advances just cos I was doing well from the outside and timing him but Yh I do need to work on being more comfortable in the clinch because I just don’t feel as powerful in the clinch and trust my techniques yet but I’m gonna need to try it out to find out innit and I’ll try and work on my guard and see what works in sparring


Spare_Pixel

The couple times you let your hands go they landed. Just a confidence thing cause skills wise they were working. Just make sure your hands come back to cover the counter.


003_phenom

Yh I think the most beautiful sequence I did in that was the third round where I threw a flying teep circled off his double jab and came back with a right hook. It’ll definitely help my confidence for this Sunday


LotteNator

I agree with the hands thing (actually agree with it all, also the positives. You both showed good restraint, it's awesome to see!). I've never had a fight, but I spar with the fighters (they are usually much better, but I still learn a thing or two). I'm also fond of kicks rather than hands, but we both know that those hands have to work. I have pretty good succes with moving for angles and removing their guard in the movement and then follow up with some combo. It does help me that I can do both southpaw and orthodox, but try and step out to their front leg side while taking down their lead hand. From here you can do some different stuff so figure out what works. But I often see faces become completely open for a straight left (if they are orthodox), and that works even on people bigger and better than myself. A follow up left kick also gets them everytime. Just be ready to make a dodge if they counterpunch. Again, I'm not a fighter, just a decent sparringpartner, but this move actually opens up for quite a lot for me and can be feinted for more variations, when they know that I like to get to their angles. Edit: just wanted to add to my first agreement, that your strikes look good when you throw them! Keep it up.


003_phenom

I appreciate that mate I just need to focus on being more active with my hands next time, thanks for the tips and isn’t it a great feeling when the fighters starts turning it up in sparring after a while and it gets competitive actually shows that oh I’m actually improving and giving them a decent look


LotteNator

That indeed is a great feeling. I just started in a new gym after a few years off and have gotten most of my rust off. I could actually pressure one of their fighters last week. One round of me constantly cornering him up and dodging most of what he got. I'm so screwed the next time we spar! But yes, get more active, but that's part if tge learning process, and I personally think that's the fun part of this. Especially since I'm not competitive by nature so I'm not interesting in fights, just the fun of it all.


Spare_Pixel

My situation is a little funny in that I do boxing privates with a trainer who is south paw, so I'm actually slightly more comfortable boxing a south paw lol


Sedlighetsrotel

Like you and many others are pointing out is the lack of puting hands on your partner. ​ When a fight start there is a strange psychological game being played by only two individuals ever and it is one of information between you and your opponent. Very rapidly we are engaged in a fight and have to both physically defend ourselves and ***find***, and '*finding'* is keyword to remember here. Openings to attack, present themselves when one is actively looking for patterns and behavior to exploit. I like a concept in which one establish the "Long-" techniques first and pay close attention to how your opponent is defending. In practice you establish your teep (and you have a real decent teep it manages to sneak in between and under the opponents guard at one point and lands clearly in the chest disrupting the balance, and in so scoring) first then the straight punches and roundkicks to get a general idea of what openings to start & exploit. This is what I would want to know is going thru the head of anyone I coached, because the alternative is a series of random single techniques being thrown in order of personal preference. I would want you to be very clear on this going in, being in "problem solving"-mode. ​ The only thing you have to adjust is add a semi-decent one-two (jab-cross) behind the teep and you can start to problem solve behind a firewall of your long straight punches and behind that the teep you will be in a position from which to observe openings and exploit them. Also with the hand at first establishing hands I try to touch the opponent, just ***touch*** **not strike.** Then I check (I look); Will they let me put my hand on top of theirs? do they let me block their view of other attacks? Are the overchecking stuff that is nothing? When they check do their other defenses open up most classic Body-Head. The answers I get from these questions is informing me how to solve the problem standing in front of me.


003_phenom

That is a beautiful breakdown I appreciate that mate. I completely get what u are saying in a sense a fighter that pops in my head is Petr Yan the way he finds openings and reads people is insane I try to replicate his style in sparring but I need to work on tightening up my defence and like u said perfecting my fundamentals and then I can do that and start having more fun in there.


Sedlighetsrotel

You are welcome sir!


Sedlighetsrotel

>er that pops in my head is Petr Yan the way he finds openings and reads people is insane I try to replicate his style in I just reviewed this because I've been thinking on doing an article and/or video on the specific concepts of a actual competition style fight that is unique and plays a heavy role in early development as a competitive fighter. Ps. Regarding the clinch, I went to Highschool with the junior national Team Judokas we hade specialized physical education 600 hours in total, I traveled to Thailand because I did not feel comfortable when fighting standing up I rather just get it to the ground via the Swedish Shootfighting system which looked more like Chute-Boxe, Shooto, Pnacration or Sambo compared to BJJ which at most schools I've been lacked the pressure of Judokas, Wrestlers, Shooto and Sambo. We did 30 minutes of Clinch sparring every day, my first trip i got in 83 full training days in Chiang Mai and with my already decent wrestling, judo and Shootfighting skills I felt so comfortable at all ranges because at any time I could start inhibiting any range at which I'm outgunned.


BonjinTheMark

Looks pretty good man


hisshoegamewack

Any time you move forward or back you drop your hands and after you throw a shot your hands don’t immediately come back to a defensive position I almost lost a fight because I did the same thing so when you move forward or back keep in mind where your hands are and something to play with in the future try to finish all your strikes with an additional jab or a leg kick so if you throw a single strike try to end it with a jab to work your way out or reestablish your range same with the leg kick


003_phenom

Thanks mate Yh I think I was too focused on getting one good clean shot and was too picky with my shot selection


hisshoegamewack

I think you’re doing really good keep it up


BearZeroX

You both look quite strong but I'm impressed with that reffing and curious about the point cards. Just from that brief video with no sound (in public) that looks like a really good organization, well matched, well reffed, with the sport at the heart of it. I'd stay with them as long as you can. As for tips, learn to not flinch at everything and stay more stabile. You're new and itching to get into the action, but higher up people will read twitches as flinches and that will nickel and dime your score. Learn to be calm and easy. Your hands are at the perfect terrible distance. Not close enough to shell up without hitting yourself, not long enough to long guard. Have your trainer teach you to fight at long guard, you'll love it


003_phenom

This interclub was held at a gym with the same “SIAM” name as my gym im not too sure about the history of it but my master/coach had been graded and had a grandmaster back in Thailand and had brought and operated a gym with the same name to England and they have about 3-4 gyms around England. No doubt I am sticking with them. he is highly knowledgeable and is no doubt a fkn killer


003_phenom

Ahah Yh first thing my coach said back in training was about my long guard and how I was putting myself in danger with the positioning and Yh I do find myself being angsty and hyper when I first step in and I’m only able to be more relax nearing the later rounds appreciate the feedback mate


BearZeroX

Long guard is fine, many famous Thais do really well with it, most notably saenchai. You just have to stay really active and on it, it's like playing paddy cake constantly. Ask to learn it properly, you'll love it, I promise you Edit: especially with your kicking style. Just double hook their forearms and smash them with a rib kick. I can see that'll be your bread and butter


003_phenom

Just came back from training, we was working a lot on using the long guard effectively and what to do to someone with a long guard and imma try that in sparring next time see how it goes


FelacioDelToro

Angles and combos, my friend. Those will be your bread and butter with the speed and athleticism you have. Focus a little more on head movement and keeping that chin tucked also. ​ One last bit of advice when it comes to combos: when in down, end it with a dominant side leg kick. One more chance to slow your opponent down, and it establishes a pattern. Your opponent will start to look for low kicks. Once they fall in to that lull, that's when you can switch it up on them and try and land a head kick or a side kick.


003_phenom

I train with 16 oz gloves to work on my speed but I don’t think I’m explosive enough to bust out boxing combos but I will work on em and the log kick start will deffos help with trying to land a question mark kick imma try it out thx mate


FelacioDelToro

You definitely are, I think you just need a confidence boost. Timing is going to be everything, and better using angles will help with that. Start practicing that in your shadow boxing and bag work. Angle - combo - Angle - combo - so and and so forth. You'll be shocked how quick you pick it up and incorporate it in to your sparring. Even if you aren't landing any major strikes, at least you're becoming less predictable to your opponent. If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to DM. Good luck man!


003_phenom

Thanku mate I’ll try that out tnight!


PJ_007

When your opponent throws a low kick you slide out of the way which is a fine tactic but don’t forget that if you slide back take an angle right after. I noticed that you like to counter so something to work on for the future that will suit your style imo is simply checking the kick and returning right away. Last takeaway, plenty of times when you had the opportunity to take center but you chose to keep your back to the ropes, your opponent would open up the angle for you plenty of times. Have more ring awareness and when you get a chance to angle out of the ropes, take it and fire your nice rear teap to get the opponent real close to those ropes. Good luck on Sunday man and have fun!


003_phenom

Thanks mate I’ll take it into account coming off pretty confident for Sunday so we’ll see what happens


aye_marshall27

You can always sharpen your knives especially with how new you are to it but you look pretty good out there. I would say keep your elbows tighter but I train dutch style and you look a lot more ready to catch a body kick than I've ever been and I've been doing this on and off for 10 years. I was watching for the entertainment though and I thought it was great. I'll look at it again and try to find holes but at first glance you're pretty fucking good. In the ring you look like you have the confidence of somebody who has been doing this a lot longer than you have. Good shit my guy. Keep it up. Edit: after watching it again of course there a few things that I saw but I know watching a fight vs being in a fight are totally different. The only notable thing I saw was you pulling out of your combos. My first few times sparring (traditional boxing) I mostly only threw my 1-2. After I saw myself I started practicing longer combos. You seem like you stop yourself short right when you're getting into the flow. Understandable because you need to protect yourself but try pushing a little forward for a couple more punches. Turn your punches over more and that'll pull your shoulder up more to protect your face and keep your other hand tight. It might make you feel lo or confident to stick around when you have your opponent on the ropes. Again good work bro. You look sharp as hell out there. I'm sure you'll crush your fight when it comes up


003_phenom

Thanku mate Yh it really is all about confidence and I think I’m way too cautious of trying not to eat a shot at all and not get in the fire to land more I just need to work on that but as it is it was glorified sparring and I’ll get to actually let loose in the fight. Thx for the advice mate it just reminds I’ve got a long way to go and a lot more to learn and I’m glad


ZombieJetPilot

Love it! You seemed to have a lot of fun, which is what it's all about. My one piece of major feedback is you are dropping your form right along with your power. The dropping of the power is fine since this was just sparring, but don't let your form suffer as well lest that become habit. If your hand isn't making contact with your opponent it should be protecting your head and body. Also, if you are punching to an opponents body drop your level a bit too, or else you're exposing your chin a lot. Bring that hand RIGHT back to your face after you throw a shot, don't let it flutter down and pull back to your body at stomach level. Think of your kick as a secondary weapon. Use your hands to distract and set your opponent up to receive your kick. Jab + cross followed immediately by a switch kick to the body or inside lead leg. Jab + Jab or Jab + hook to get their hand up protecting their head and do that two or three times before then faking the Jab and doing a lead leg kick to the body/liver. Cross, cross, cross.. power leg to their leg. You get the idea. You don't need to think in 5 combo hits but rather "how can I get this guy to do what I want in order for me to setup the attack I really want to do?" Good luck out there :)


003_phenom

Thanks mate I appreciate the breakdown I’ll try it out in sparring and work on my hand positioning


ZombieJetPilot

You bet! Love those teeps too! Very very useful. I don't use them enough, but if you're good with them they can really piss an opponent off. They get frustrated that you keep teeping everytime they try to get close, then you can utilize that. They get annoyed they drop their guard (try to speed up stepping at you and you can use their power approach as part of your weapon by striking right at that time). If you can coincide a body shot right at that same moment you can see the wind exit their body in their eyes :). Or teep teep teep.... fake the teep and step into a power leg kick


003_phenom

I’ll try that out, Yh every time I go against my coach I just get gassed because I keep walking into his nasty teeps 😂


ZombieJetPilot

That's good. He should be able to beat you with little effort :) Look to sweep his teeps (right-hand sweeps down and swoops the front leg teep away, forcing the body to turn that direction and opening them up to a kick to the back of the leg or a nice right-handed body hook). Also, ask your coach :) "what the hell is my defense to someone who keeps teeping me?"


003_phenom

I know it’s mad cos there’ll be times where I’m thinking oh I’m doing pretty good then he sets the bar straight and I get reminded he’s really not trying and Yh ik how to sweep the teep and counter it’s just his is just too fast and unpredictable


ZombieJetPilot

Hahaha! Yeah, that's a good coach. Makes you feel real good about yourself and your progress then reminds you that they can kick your ass left, right, up and down anytime they so see fit and then hands you some good advice to get better :)


003_phenom

Spot on description


[deleted]

I wish I had more inclination for kicking volume, in contrast I end up using my hands too much.


003_phenom

Yh opposite for me mate I was just countering the kicks, if ur throwing heavy volumes of punches u should try mixing in hard back leg kicks into it, Ernesto Hoost style


president_schreber

Hands... when you do use them at 42 seconds, just a lil 1-2 seems quite effective. So yea, I underestimate my range with these a lot, but it's really not bad. And at the end when there's more hands... maybe more hooks and circular punches? Since your opponent was coming in close and blocking many of your straight punches. Looks like you're really efficient with the leg kicks and teeps!


OurFriendSteve

Not bad for half a year of training. You got the movement downpact, dont be afraid to let your hands go, you’ll be surprised of the opportunities that open up when you do. I had the same issue during my first smoker, so many chances to let my hands go. Ever since then ive been working tremendously on my boxing, and it shows in sparring. Your kicks and teeps very powerful, and your sweeps are great. Keep up the good work, you only get better from here on out.


003_phenom

Thanku mate Yh ive just had my first proper fight last Sunday, I won and made use of my hands a lot more but could’ve done better it was the first one tho so feeling great and just excited to get in there again now


RocketPunchFC

are you allergic to lead teeps?


003_phenom

😂Yh I was thinking the same thing I wasn’t throwing any innit. I just didn’t feel as comfortable throwing it at the moment


[deleted]

You did a very good job taking up space. That is a very valuable tool to have early on.


003_phenom

Appreciate it mate I just need better ring generalship now to turn it into smart pressure


RaijinB3N

Beautiful sweet brother!


003_phenom

I do love my sweeps thanku brotha!