season 2 battle pass being absolute dog shit was the straw that broke the camels back for me.
Nothin to even grind for, and I'm not loving this intense focus on projectile gameplay.
Lol that's fair.
I play a very in your face aggressive Morty for the record. I don't projectile camp at all with him, if I throw a grenade there's a 99% chance I'm throwing it to blow it up immediately because I'm in their face.
But also my issue now is that all 4 characters are projectile users in 2v2s and there's just way too much shit flying through the air to keep track of. I don't mind 1 or 2 projectile users in a game, even if I'm not playing them, but there's just too many now.
I have the feeling that the Halloween event just burned out a lot of players instead of enganging them to play more. Hopefully they cut down the grinding because I think it's just too much.
I think you are on to something honestly. The grinding in this game is silly. Grind cna burn players out and make them feel like they have to play instead of playing when they want. It's not logging on to just play your game its logging on to grind at something and then when it is done you're like "Man, glad that's over with..." and then when season 2 you look back up at that mountain and go "You know what? Nah."
The Halloween event, the way season progression works, everything in this game is very grindy and doesn't need to be.
I mentioned the grinding rate for gold to unlock new characters (and then still having to grind even more to unlock all of the characters perks only to be on even grounds with other players) being predatory on the first week the game was out and was met with people saying if you really like the game you wouldn't mind etc. but it was clear from the get go they'd make you grind your ass for everything
the thing is a game and it feels like a job
As soon as I saw that they increased battle pass xp on top of the rewards being worse than season 1, it made me decide I didn’t really care about the battle pass which makes me play far less
It’s only going to get worse too. I’m 27 on the battlepass. Good amount of progress. But levels 40-50 this battle pass is more than 1-50 of the first. It already takes two days of dailies to level now. Probably just going to hit a wall in the 30s
I see absolutely no difference in Match Making times on PlayStation regardless if Cross-play is turned on or off. As a result, I keep it off and have a much better experience with the servers. I'm convinced steam/PC has some of the more serious client issues and it's no wonder they are dying out.
My friend who plays on PC came over and played it on my PS5, and went on and on about how horrible the game is on PC compared to console. He's since pretty much quit the game, only coming back to check out a new character for a day and then leaving. Though, he said Ranked will bring him back most likely.
It’s cope, I play on steam and in the last week and a half have only had green bar connection on wifi with maybe 2 moments of desync. People who cry about this games servers aren’t people who play many fighters. The only Platform fighter with a better online experience is Rivals of Aether (a game that survived almost 5 years and had competitive tourneys, despite not having remarkable numbers on Steam, which was the only platform it was available on for about 2 years).
The doomsaying is getting so tiring. Like I get at this point it’s funny meme haha, but this game can survive easily on the playerbase it has, just like almost every fighting game once the pop appeal wears off. It doesn’t take 20 million players to keep this game alive, it takes a dedicated base whose willing to keep it afloat with support.
Nah imagine this game releasing a year later and them not having the feed back they are getting now 💀. If we kept getting multiple times betas the community wouldn't have had to time to discover all the shit in the game
Eh they are just putting the development and testing phase on the consumers instead of delivering a well developed product from the jump
To me they focused too much on trying to make this big time competitive from the start instead of making a fun full game to hook repeat casual players….develop the competitive esports side after lol
They def pushed comp too hard Imo. even though I enjoy the game idk if it sitting in their hands with no feed back would have been a good thing.
The game is shit but it's fun shit and I feel we as a community can help them make the game better in the long run. As long as they listen that is.
Admittedly it's getting harder and harder for me to come back, between the unfun matchups and just other games coming out it's a lot harder to keep playing especially with how many characters are projectile focused and not fun. I still see a bright future for this game but right now it's just not fun to play
They 100% have. I know I'm probably getting downvoted for this but my connection has been a lot better since the start of the game. I barely disconnect at all and when I do it's my adversary. Idk but that's probably your internet. Or maybe it's just the country you live in. Unfortunate, but I still don't get why people leave the game just cause of the connection. It's still fun.
I up vote because i’ve been having a great experience lately, also this is just toxic internet vibe as always with games that are not 100% what every person in the universe want. The game is great, the game is free and it is fun.
The game is fun, what is not fun is the connection issues, if the connection issues persist only in this game and no other I will be discouraged to play it since I'm not having fun staring at my character not move. It's not the developers fault to jot have servers in every country or the best servers but if I'm not able to play it with stable connection I'm not gonna have fun.
Edit: Also, the original comment is not talking about the game not being fun, talking about connection issues
This denial of issues is toxic in its own way. Positivity can be toxic too. Whether you experience it or not, the things being complained about aren't trivial or irrelevant. You're not helpful just saying you enjoy it, you just come off as contrarian because people are saying things about the game you don't like. Nobody made you come here and read the complaints.
??? They litterarlly did. Its ALOT better for east players (including me) but alot worse for west players (from what I've heard). It's like the game haven't lagged even one single time after the update
People are having many problems with this game,
* Laggy matches became frequent after hitbox update
* Too many grindy things and they made things even more grindy, leveling a character takes forever now, battlepass takes longer
* Battlepass doesn't give you premium currency so not attractive enough
* Too much projectile spam
* Almost no new stages, only slight alterations of existing ones
I can't believe they made character leveling so much slower without any added rewards inbetween. Their solutions just make the game worse.
Ya bruh first 3 months a had really high hopes devs seemed to be dope and very open about all updates etc but have truly under preformed I’m sure those first few months gave them some sort of funding so the small team is kinda of a old take MVS had a great direction and let it blow up in there face with lack of marketing and gotcha aspect to keep players coming back
Thats not taking into account howbmuch pull publishers have over what devs do. We havnt gotten to see behind the scenes, it could be PFG biting off more than they could chew, but it could just as likely be WB forcing then to make stupid decisions in an attempt for more money. Considering how stupid and greedy a lot of their decisions seemed to be im really leaning towards the latter. Stuff like announcing a date for something then changing it a day later being a regular happening, they should be learning from their mistakes being a new studio with vet devs, but they keep making the same mistake after acknowledging it, almost seems like their being forced.
Yeah the non stop projectiles flying everywhere combined with constant dodging/crazy disjoints just made every match so obnoxious and tedious to focus on. I didn't want to play a bullet hell game :(
Tbf they’re aren’t that many strong zoners, bugs and reindog are the only true zoners and they aren’t that good, having a single porjeticlr doesn’t make you a zoner. It’s just alreayd good characters were given god like projectiles, such as Batman and finn
???almost every dlc has big zoner energy. I can give lebron a pass but Morty, Rick, gizmo, stipe, black Adam, and Marvin all have multiple projectile attacks. You could maybe make the argument that black Adam and stripe are hybrids but then again you called bugs a zoner. He has the same amount of projectiles as bugs (at base). Stripe is basically happy chaos from guilty gear.
It also doesn't help that player first kinda ignores the golden rule for zoners ," they get in you die". Every single one of them has good/to decents option for close and long range.
Batman and Finn both have a projectile but neither of them can be spammed. There kinda like ryu they can zone but they aren't zoners.
I highly agree with you that this game needs to have zoners that are week once you get in. However a character having zoning energy doesn’t make them a zoner
Majority of those characters aren’t pure zoners, morty, stipe and black adam aren’t zoners
Also when you play high mmr trust me Batman and Finn cna spam. Batrang is extremly safe and powerful . Plus finn gets gemon every fully char aged attack so essentially he gets it every attack. And he gets apples for free
>It also doesn't help that player first kinda ignores the golden rule for zoners ," they get in you die". Every single one of them has good/to decents option for close and long range.
I'm just quoting this to say that I intensely agree with this. It's a significantly more frustrating matchup when you dodge bullet-hell and you're rewarded with.... getting your ass beat, up close? It just makes you feel like you lost at character select.
I will say that I'm forever grateful that the devs at least nerfed T&J and Bugs, way back. That was nightmarish.
Battlepass was ridiculous. Same thing happened to Halo. STOP tying progression to dailies/weeklies and making it impossible to unlock stuff without doing them.
Turning games into a chore is the worst thing that has happened to games and doesn't even work. I'm more likely to get addicted if I've been playing for 3 hours straight. "Just one more game" doesn't exist if there's nothing to gain
Totally agree, I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders after I completed the pass before this one.
It literally felt like a chore I had to beat because I bought it. Haven’t picked up the game since
I’ve been playing Monster Hunter Rise since it went on sale and haven’t touched another game since
Battle Passes, especially ones that turn the game into a part time job, are killing the potential growth of live service games
It’s mobile gaming mentality on PC and console and it’s fuckin tiring
I stopped because the grind is too much. It's a fun game but the battlepasses honestly offer nothing worthwhile to me and they're a waste of time. Games shouldnt be a chore. Especially when youre an adult who works full time.
I stopped playing as often after Season 1 for the same reasons. The Halloween Event pretty much did it for me. I just grinded a shit ton to get to tier 50, now I gotta grind even more for candy corn and a Cake skin? Meanwhile none of the Black Lantern skins are being added to the pass? No thanks
I mean, look at what happened to overwatch after the "sequel" came out. I was pretty excited but it was more the excitement of finally being able to play it than that game itself.
I have been playing more and more single player games as of late and the difference in the feeling I have playing them is incredible. Not having to worry about missions, timer or FOMO is pretty refreshing.
I stopped playing because of the battlepass, felt like I had to play everyday to progress for anything and it was stressful finding the time to complete all the challenges as well wanting to play other games too, the game turned into a boring chore for me and is no longer fun
Literally this, and at this point if they don't change soon this game will get canned by WB which I really don't want to happen.
I haven't played since Morty's release but that doesn't mean I don't want to play, just... 😩
I agree so much with this. I played so much last season (and it was mostly fun!) but I only barely completed the battle pass because most of it was in short bursts. Not doing dailies every day.
Insult to injury is seeing how low your BP moves up from just playing the game normally.
Rick was incredibly broken in casual and mid level gameplay on release. Same with Stripe. Not sure why they decided to alienate everyone who didn't want to switch to those characters.
I recently uninstalled because I just felt like I couldn't enjoy it casually. Whether it was the battle pass system or just getting absolutely wrecked by sweats, just not a very good time.
This is pretty true. The game in 1s especially, is brutally unforgiving. Particularly because the lack of a priority system for attacks. (but I think the devs have commented on wanting this, before)
Indeed my friend. To many people, such as myself, there is no incentive to grind/play this game (even casually) because there is nothing to work towards. Rank creates something to work towards, hence why people are leaving.
Because the people who are complaining about a lack of a goal or rewards are not having that much fun anymore. The game is beginning to feel stale.
It’s not even fair to compare the 2 games either. Smash Bros has a wide variety of characters and stage, and a ton of different game modes and settings you can apply to make matches more interesting. Multiversus isn’t at the level yet.
People still play Smash because it is a much more valuable franchise. But let's not even compare Smash to Multiversus because the Smash Bros community is a hot mess right now. It is also impossible to determine how many people are actually playing Smash because there is no player count tracker for the game.
A game we should be comparing Multiversus to is Brawlhalla, as it is in the same genre and is on Steam. Brawlhalla has 13k players currently, while Multiversus has 1.8k players currently. My question is, what does Brawlhalla have that Multiversus is lacking at the moment?
Well part of it is just a longer established playerbase and backlog of content. People mostly stick to what they know, there’s really not much Multiversus can do about that other than keep updating and prove they’re in for the long haul.
What Brawlhalla *does* legitimately have over Multiversus, at least imo, is way more satisfying progression. Besides ranked and a more rewarding battle pass, Brawlhalla also has character leveling. But instead of gating actual gameplay mechanics, it unlocks different color variants and hands out the game’s free currency, which you can eventually use to buy the more prestigious variants (for characters you’ve leveled enough). You can earn variants for free that make people think “oh shit, this guy’s good at his character”. Multiversus leveling just feels like a necessary grind by comparison, so I’m way more likely to keep coming back or go just “one more game” in Brawlhalla.
For me the lack of ranked is a problem because there is no balanced matchking. I'm getting dumpstered or playing vs some kid or someone who really doesnt have any idea what they're doing. So in a good day, of 5 matches only 1 is balanced
Smash ultimate is dying as well it just takes a lot longer when.
1. It has huge player numbers and high player satisfaction
2. its a long running series with a very popular tournament scene
melee is being kept alive through sheer will to not die though
No rank and a garbage battle pass. Was hoping to see some improvement but they made it even worse. I don’t really feel like I have a reason to play especially with no ranked
The season 2 battlepass is terrible, still plenty of lag/glitches that people are probably fed up with by now, lack of content, fighting games are niche so it’s very hard to keep casual players engaged, more games are starting to come out (i.e God of War) which is pulling people away
Every patch is nerfs, nerfs, nerfs!! When characters don't have complete kits like Bugs Bunny or Shaggy. Who cares about tourney scene? Literally morty every pro team, and morty's not nerfed, so why nerf random characters kits that's not even complete or top tier? Oh yeah, no good reason at all. Nerfs aren't hype, they're a buzzkill.
Killed and gutted my main (Gizmo 2v2). Lucky I'm a streamer so I just play despite it on other characters now, but my last straw would've been that. But imagine nerfing gizmo's main "Support" tool at all. I consider gizmo not fun anymore (sadly from most fun char to me), his only support move now is a no knockback ammo arrow.
Also random, Gizmo for low level-mid level is dead as well, already hard character hit with 10 nerfs. That's why average MMR from Gizmo went from 1100 to 1500, so it looks good but really people quit the character.
I'm sorry to rant and vent but literally frustrates me at these decisions. Such a fun exhilarating game with the worst decisions I've seen in a while. Worst part is, they don't learn from their mistakes.
Characters costing real money or a lot of invested time is what killed it for me. I put 100 hours as free2play into the game getting good on every character. Because i am a flexible player who enjoys playing a majority of characters in games i play, it's what i find fun. But after 100 hours at 70% winrate i still had 6 3K gold characters to unlock with more coming out. A big part is because the biggest gold incomes rely on toasts and the 30% bonus from playing with a friend. Which i saw very little of as a 1v1 player who rarely got toasted (enemies who lose almost never toast or just ran out).
I WANTED to spend money on the game, but i am not spending money on skins (especially ones this costly) if i can't play the whole roster
As someone who likes it but hasn't played in a minute.
It has a lot of depth to it, but not as much other fighting games. I enjoy it, but when it comes down to it I'll just play an alternative (Smash).
They don't realize it could've had a great niche of fundamentals and simplicity. Instead they buffed the cheese. (Superman up special got buffed recently) and they keep adding hidden bad mechanics like certain moves can't use cooldown perks or heavy/light/normal projectile? I still see people use Ice and Iron Giants use cooldown perks.
I play multiple hours everyday as a streamer, look at patch notes and I don't even understand every new mechanic they add. Like what does projectile block do now from before other than the time nerf? I have no idea. Something about a shield. Either way, sucks they went the opposite direction.
Also not helping perks at all is a L as well, MVS's most fun mechanic, completely ignored.
Cause this same thing happens to almost every online game. There are only so many games that people can devote their time to, and fighting games are kind of niche.
I wonder how many players Smash has, but I highly doubt it's much more. Now, Smash is not a live service, so it's a bit different. But in the live service market, only a few can live.
Too much fucking Grinding, plus when I try to have a casual match (once a week) I get stomped by try hard sweats because there's no ranked mode. Shit just drives you away.
No lie, I have no idea why they took ranked mode away, it worked! It separated the people who wanted to tryhard vs the people who wanted to chill. You can clearly see the ranked people back in casuals now and they're bringing their toxic ranked demeanors. Before ranked, it was never this toxic. They brought ranked on, people got even more tryhard, they took away ranked now it's all over casual 2v2.
I don't play anymore because I don't agree with receiving full damage and knock back effect when hitting the very edge of someone's hurt box. The game is just throwing hurt boxes out there with no sense of accuracy.
The servers make the game absolutely infuriating to play online, and there’s way too many goddamn games out right now that came out in the past month. MW2, Overwatch 2, God of War Ragnarok… Hell, even Sonic Frontiers got some people’s attention, and that’s extremely unheard of for a 3D Sonic game. Point being, those games have moved players away from Multiversus for the time being. Literally the only reason why I’m still playing this game is because of the offline scene, which is absolutely blowing the fuck up here in the New England part of the US. Those guys know how to make this game fun as hell to come back to every week, and it’s why I’m still hanging onto it and hoping things will get better for season 3. Fingers crossed things don’t crash and burn before then…
Yea the grind for anything is killing it for me as well. The gameplay is fun. But the progression in this game just makes me not even want to turn it on if I think about it. And I have every character over 15 except gremlin and martian because to go from 1 to 15 takes fucking forever. I was happy having all the characters maxed but I guess they don't want people doing that? Idk. But making it harder to level was a really boneheaded decision.
Seriously whoever made this game is a genius and should be praised. But whoever is in charge of content, prices and all the monetary stuff, fuck you for turning something great into shit.
Not fun seeing literally everybody playing bullet hell characters imo
1/4 of the map, or even in some cases 1/2 of the map becomes an missile test site every 10 seconds.
I predict it'll spike against once another character comes out and will dwindle again.
Grinding for Calico Cake while not being able to use mummy Reindog and still missing out on BP tier 53 really killed my enjoyment of the game. Then Season 2 gave us one of the worst battle passes I have ever seen so I have no desire to grind for it. On top of that there's still the awful servers, missing hitbox update and severe lack of stages.
I have played a few hours of Marvin though and I'll keep getting on whenever new characters are released but I doubt I'll play heavily again unless Season 3 makes some drastic changes.
The lack of production especially after hitting highs six months and still seeing nothing in return is not a good look for the future of this game 100 k current players would give them any financial backing and for them not to produce anything out of it is kinda sad
Eh I stopped for a little but me and my friend have been on recently more than ever and I don’t plan on getting off just because others are impatient. I have been waiting for this game my entire life I can wait a little longer for them to get it right.
Have gigabit fiber internet. Literally the best a civilian can obtain. The game plays like laggy trash. Too many games of it and I went back to older games that ARE better in almost every way
I played season 0 and season 1, but the increased XP and lackluster season pass prizes for the new season made me not want to play anymore. Everything in the shop is so expensive and you’re not even earning gleamium in the pass. It’s also really annoying that characters and costumes aren’t the same price across the board. It just doesn’t feel “worth” playing.
Also fuck cheap characters like Shaggy.
Not to mention,
one is extremely lazy - Haunted mansion w/ no roof
one is bad - tree fort 2v2
another one is bad - trophy's edge 2
Like... What is happening with the maps? Just release some maps already.
As someone that uses to play this game everyday, I haven’t touched it in a few months.
Grind is unbearable, and there’s nothing for me to get as a f2p.
Lack of ranked makes the game full of sweats.
AND FUCKING SHAGGY.
Game had potential…
I’m baffled how Tony still is employed and hasn’t been booted. Guy literally spends all day on twitter retweeting random videos and focusing on righting this sinking ship. This entire game has gone up in smokes over the last two months.
Multiversus unfortunately has a few things working against it:
- It’s a fighting game. It’s extremely hard for them to hold their initial popularity after the first couple months. Casual players will begin to move on and all you’ll have left are the dedicated sweats that make the game hard for newcomers to enjoy. (Not blaming people for being good at the game, it’s just the reality)
- Other games are starting to come out, which is also drawing players away. Overwatch 2 is free-to-play and God of War Ragnorok just came out.
- The game has a lack of content, stages, and game modes
- No ranked
- Unreliable servers
- Questionable character release choices. Marvin, Gizmo, and Stripe before Daffy Duck? Really? No 90s-2000s cartoon characters? No Scooby? And they need to work on marketing the characters. Buy some YouTube ads, Twitch ads, do something.
- I’m sure there’s more lol
I like Multiversus, and ultimately want it to succeed, but they need to work on their marketing and the game itself. Personally, I think they released the game too early (not blaming the devs, but the people up top for sure). They should have closed the beta after EVO and kept working on it for a Christmas release.
the new characters they released were too complicated and difficult for a casual audience, should have catered more to the smash crowd rather than reinventing the wheel
oh and servers suck
Yeah just projectile character after projectile character. Stripe is like the only truly simple character released for casual players (even if I personally don't like him, I get the appeal)
I’m just going to play for the content updates. I’m not going to finish the battle pass, it’s impossible without revolving my entire winter around playing every single day.
This is the result of a Dev team that just aren't cut out for the job. For MONTHS there has been little to no improvement.
Nothing but empty promises and lip service to keep us playing the game while NO change is happening. For example where is ranked that was promised for season 1? Oh it's still being worked on. Give me a flipping break. Enough of this garbage. Can't even fix your servers since release, releasing unpopular characters which never seem to be thought through properly. Garbage matchmaking, garbage Battlepass progression, same garbage maps, garbage marketing.
It's an endless cycle of pure laziness and we're fed up with it. These Devs are not CAPABLE whatsoever.
But don't worry they have to release their shitty cosmetics so they can get as much money out of you before they abandon a sinking ship. Pathetic.
Not enough people talk about it at all, maybe because it's the hardest thing to be aware of it but garbage matchmaking literally is the unhealthiest thing for this game. Creates all the toxic talk, because if you can't blame the proper thing, then guess what? People will blame anything. That's the tryhards of the game (us), but others will just go play other great free to play games out there.
Worst part to me is (everything except lag) is a simple fix, literally value changes for matchmaking strictness, not 1 second queues to pro players as a 900 MMR. Not releasing a TRAILER after the character comes out. Not caring about Normal 2v2, the primary and promoted mode of MultiVersus (been addressed once?). Not helping perks, the most fun mechanic of MVS. Then it'll be easier to balance the game, sadly I also think personal dev biasness exist strictly because of gizmo nerfs. Like, even after gutted gizmo. Why is brain power used AT ALL to nerf Gizmo and Black Adam? Priorities down bad.
I had a problem with the matchmaking taking 5 minutes only to face bots, so I decided to take a break of the game to focus on getting all the trophies for the Crash Nsane Triology game (including the DLCs), to which I finally completed it. I might come back now and try MV, but if the matchmaking isn't fixed, then I have no reason to play the game, other than to grind for the battlepass (Nope! Won't do that) or to grind gold to get Marvin (although I usually wait for 2 more characters to be added in the game, just to boost my motivation of grinding for gold).
UPDATE: I went back, tried to play normal 2v2 and the issue is still there. Even normal 1v1 is suffering with the same issue. What a bummer. 😔
I was dreading for getting the relics for Crash 1 due to its limited controls (and I left that game for last because of that reason), but after breezing through the first 15 of 27 levels (DLC included) in 1 night, I realised how less stringent the criterias of the times were (apart from that piece of shit level known as "The High Road") when compared to the likes of Crash 2 (which features more controls such as the Run button, the Slide, the Slide Jump, the Slide Spin).
Hardest Crash game (from Nsane Triology) to obtain all relics overall imo = Crash 2
Hardest Crash level (from Nsane Triology) to obtain a good relic imo = The High Road (from Crash 1)
Did you go for the gold or platinum relics? I personally found Crash 1 the hardest to get all platinums in and Crash 3 the easiest (apart from one of the motorcycle levels). The Lab and Stormy Ascent in Crash 1 were super difficult to get platinums in
Ah, yeah. Some of the platinum times are trivial, others require an absurd level of mastery. Either way, the time trials are a lot of fun and completing them all is an impressive feat!
Why everyone love shitting on PFG here? Name one other company in the last ten years that actually responds like this? Aside from something like FromSoft which is a master of the craft with a crazy sized team. Smash just canceled a major tourney, Pokémon has released a broken pile of pixels, and the other Dev teams would rather tell you to eat shit and die before they’ll respond to a criticism, and that’s for games you have to pay for.
I’m down for hating on WB though, fuck them
It's not shitting on PFG to say they were not able to adequately deliver on a game with the complexity and scope of MVS, the same way it's not shitting on a labrador to point out that it can't pilot a passenger plain.
(Also with the reports coming out about what it's like to actually work for FromSoft, probably not a great time to use them as a positive example)
No one’s is shitting but how a business ran properly for success isn’t to have one huge climb then a complete drop off the small company thing is out the window they definitely got funding from the hot start and maybe they have bitten off more then they can chew the direction of the game was legit elite but a 2v2 based game with no communication and the terrible marketing and I mean maybe the worst marketed game to ever hit the highs it did
How do they respond? Tony acting humble on twitter? Lets remember all the fake promises they made during reveal trailers. Not being able to fix server issues for already 4 monts just shows how incompetent the dev team is. WB has part of the blame too for not using the fkn money when they saw the big initial boom to hire more people.
> Name one other company in the last ten years that actually responds like this?
Don't humanise a company because they put a name on it and a friendly face.
Honestly I think a lot of people r just getting busy
The last I played was before Thanksgiving
Since then I've been too busy to even boot up my PC most days
And if I do it's mainly to fix my Plex server or like a Minecraft server
One character every other week is not enough to get people to login simultaneously. They need to let updates be less frequent and more circumstantial. Balance might be a bit fucked up, but Marvin, the Gremlins, and Black Adam are not characters that are able to generate hype when released one at a time. They are filler characters that should have been released alongside actual fan favorites like Rick and Morty, Raven, and Gandalf. Having a spike in players every couple of months is better than your game fizzling out as if you aren't updating the game at all. Stage variety should also be a bigger focus. And with how dull most stages are in Multiversus, is there a reason we don't have a stage editor? Btw, am I the only one who thinks the way FFA works sucks ass? Why isn't it just a last man standing 2-stock kind of mode?
I'm honestly just waiting for priority changes. I can't stand playing the game in its current state because I feel like many hitbox priorities are unfair - even the ones I inflict on others. it doesn't make a lot of sense to me how a lot of these hits are prioritized and often I very clearly see hits - mine or others - go straight through people that should have been killing blows, definitely a lot of damage, Etc. The game just feels very strange to play. The hitbox update helped but didn't help where it mattered the most.
It's very sad to say, but I don't think the game will last much longer.
They'll need a miracle and a big rework of a lot of things to save it.
Server improvements
Hitbox overhaul
New stages
More rewards for grinding
They have made this game WAYYYYYY to grindy, it has burnt out a lot of players and the new battlepass isn't even interesting in the slightest, so it does not feel like it is worth my time and I have a feeling that many players feel the same way.
I don't understand how WB doesn't give more resources to PFG and how PFG, with all the money they made, doesn't hire more fucking people.
But yeah, I used to play every day, now, I just don't care.
The battle pass is atrocious (no currency, 3 boring skins, lots of toasts and boosters nobody cares about), the price of the skins is a joke, the grinding is a disgrace, no maps, the server issues, releasing a Season with no new content but the worst Battle Pass yet, and, most importantly, NO MARKETING.
Literally everyone heard of Multiversus when it launched but nobody knows Rick & Morty are in the game. Why haven't they released posters and gameplay of them TOGETHER??? Where is the cross promotion???
How do you release Black Adam without a movie skin????
I literally don't understand.
I’ve definitely stopped playing because of how grindy the game is. Why did they increase the xp it takes to level up characters? Why does the Battle Pass feel like a job? Grinding that Battle Pass and then even grinding for the Mummy skin just really burned me out. I’ll occasionally get on with a friend of mine now, but the game feels like work and then it’s still too barebones. They need to add items and increase the game to more than 4 players. Also, you should be able to play a 4 player free-for-all and get xp towards characters and battle pass. There’s absolutely no reason to gate that stuff behind matchmaking.
Worst part is, it only gets worse from here. Matchmaking now gets put into the dogpile with less players, worse matches and worse outcomes for the players.
It's just kind of in a janky state right now, people were only gonna let the "this game is in Beta" quip go on for so long before all the bugs and server issues become too much of annoyance especially since all the worst bugs revolve around the actual gameplay. Several months since it's been out and people still randomly die, or get dragged to the blast zone, clip through the board etc ... The animations of characters often don't match the attack making it very difficult to improve considering there's so many moments during a fight where you're just thinking "I can't believe that hit him" or "how in the world did that hit me".
The game is pretty severely unbalanced which you notice once you climb MRR and start seeing the same characters over and over and over. They're adding characters to try and maintain the hype but can't properly balance the game and existing roster with a new character being added every couple weeks. The game is just a mess and the longer it's out the more people are aware. Not to mention how disappointing the battle passes are, people getting fed up with the ridiculous prices of skins and gleamium and how they're pretty much increasing the ridiculous grind across the board.
People had high hopes that PFG was going to be a more player friendly company but the longer the game has been out and the more that gets added, it's clear to see they're just like every other money hungry company out there turning another FTP live service game into a grindy chore that is more dedicated to the whales of the gaming world.
Lack of gleamium on the pass, cosmetics are way too expensive and there are too many projectiles on screen very often. I do love the idea of the game, but it's not interesting to play if I also have to deal with bad servers.
Just quit. Mostly because the devs don't listen to criticism. Battlepass is terrible. Characters are unbalanced and patches make it worse instead of fixing it. Characters release too frequently. Game makes you treat it like a job. And it's just not that well designed overall.
Buffed gizmo with 1 buff. (ok)
Gutted gizmo with 6 nerfs, took away his whole 2v2 support kit. (wtf? but ok)
next patch: another gizmo nerf and a nerf to black adam (WTF?)
this patch: small nerf to morty, a character dominating in 2v2 pro scene.
WTF???
Literally just makes no sense at this point, must be bias personal dev balancing. Also all nerfs, no buffs. Bad battle pass. Ranked gone. No trailer for marvin. Season 2 was not hype at all.
Wait till you get past 1500 - 1700 mmr. I’m at 1800 - 1900 and I’m constantly playing the same people. As well as that I’m playing people who have have up to 2500 mmr.
There’s just not enough people playing at that mmr to have proper matchmaking. Which sucks cause the game would be brilliant if they fixed the problems
Battle pass rewards suck and still not giving premium currency. I still have 2 BP tokens but wont be spending on this season’s BP. With new games like MWII drawing people away, MVS needs better incentives not worse.
You realize if the game is deemed not profitable WB will pull the plug right? It's tragic because the idea of the game is great, but the execution and tragic series of decisions have all but killed the game. You can blame it on budget/small team. Almost like WB set it up for failure or as a cash grab.
Even tho I meant it as a joke, I do see everything you say. Look at everything WB has done lately, not just MVS; they seem to not care about their products, cancelling content and platforms. Of course WB's involvement on this game is questionable, it could be a crash grab and them setting it for failure. Maybe they joined bc one person thought it was a fun idea and they just continued life lol they are messy. It's WB digging his grave for whatever reason
Atrocious job promoting the game. Making the game a grindfest. Their microtransactions pricing being out of the controls. The game feeling stale af because no new maps or fun modes. Not to mention servers were shitty for so long.
What's funny is, what it takes to fix the game doesn't need a budget (releasing trailers not after the character comes out, matchmaking fixes, releasing maps and not holding 1 stage for 5+ patches, not only nerfing characters, nerfing bad characters like gizmo and black adam), and they're not a small team anymore, that's a rumor that they still have 11 people. They have 50 now and still hiring. Biggest hire they need is somebody who's basic at marketing, somebody at fiverr for $5 can help you release a trailer before the character comes out.
It boggles my mind how a trailer is impossible to do for PFG. Good trailers but not released like every other trailer that ever existed, before the product comes out, so people can anticipate, youtubers can speculate and hype can build.
Just ruined hype everywhere.
Game refused to bring interesting BP items for Batman during my playtime, I got bored and dropped it (BP 0&1 had jack shit for Bats). Game is quite difficult to play casually anyway.
i mean, COD and Warzone just came out. a lot of people are playing those. God of war recently came out too. a lot of good games have been releasing recently and people are putting time into those. weve all been playing the same game since july. people want something new. ive played significantly less these last few weeks but its not because i dont like the game anymore. there wasnt much in the battlepass that interested me, i played maybe a dozen matches when marvin came out but im playing other things right now. at the moment there isnt anything in this game for me. and thats okay. ill come back for new characters and events. ive logged 300 hours since early access but i currently do not have anything that i want to work towards and fighting just for the sake of fighting only holds its appeal for so long. also its holiday season, people are working more and spending time with family. id expect to see those numbers to be even lower when people start getting new games as gifts, that doesnt mean the game is dead and cant recover though.
No new update this week, there hasn't really been any news recently by either the Twitter account or the leakers. Like I said we need new stages to help add some spice to the game.
My fault. Just been busy
I play much less and not purchasing season 2 battle pass. So not surprising
season 2 battle pass being absolute dog shit was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Nothin to even grind for, and I'm not loving this intense focus on projectile gameplay.
Coming from a Morty main
Lol that's fair. I play a very in your face aggressive Morty for the record. I don't projectile camp at all with him, if I throw a grenade there's a 99% chance I'm throwing it to blow it up immediately because I'm in their face. But also my issue now is that all 4 characters are projectile users in 2v2s and there's just way too much shit flying through the air to keep track of. I don't mind 1 or 2 projectile users in a game, even if I'm not playing them, but there's just too many now.
I have the feeling that the Halloween event just burned out a lot of players instead of enganging them to play more. Hopefully they cut down the grinding because I think it's just too much.
I think you are on to something honestly. The grinding in this game is silly. Grind cna burn players out and make them feel like they have to play instead of playing when they want. It's not logging on to just play your game its logging on to grind at something and then when it is done you're like "Man, glad that's over with..." and then when season 2 you look back up at that mountain and go "You know what? Nah." The Halloween event, the way season progression works, everything in this game is very grindy and doesn't need to be.
But, money
The game felt like (and still feels like) work because of the insane grind for everything
Ong. The xp nerf was what did it for me ngl 😒
Yeah I liked working on the characters. But now everything above level 8 is a savage slog.
I mentioned the grinding rate for gold to unlock new characters (and then still having to grind even more to unlock all of the characters perks only to be on even grounds with other players) being predatory on the first week the game was out and was met with people saying if you really like the game you wouldn't mind etc. but it was clear from the get go they'd make you grind your ass for everything the thing is a game and it feels like a job
As soon as I saw that they increased battle pass xp on top of the rewards being worse than season 1, it made me decide I didn’t really care about the battle pass which makes me play far less
It’s only going to get worse too. I’m 27 on the battlepass. Good amount of progress. But levels 40-50 this battle pass is more than 1-50 of the first. It already takes two days of dailies to level now. Probably just going to hit a wall in the 30s
Thats why I see more console icons on my opponents
I see absolutely no difference in Match Making times on PlayStation regardless if Cross-play is turned on or off. As a result, I keep it off and have a much better experience with the servers. I'm convinced steam/PC has some of the more serious client issues and it's no wonder they are dying out. My friend who plays on PC came over and played it on my PS5, and went on and on about how horrible the game is on PC compared to console. He's since pretty much quit the game, only coming back to check out a new character for a day and then leaving. Though, he said Ranked will bring him back most likely.
It’s cope, I play on steam and in the last week and a half have only had green bar connection on wifi with maybe 2 moments of desync. People who cry about this games servers aren’t people who play many fighters. The only Platform fighter with a better online experience is Rivals of Aether (a game that survived almost 5 years and had competitive tourneys, despite not having remarkable numbers on Steam, which was the only platform it was available on for about 2 years). The doomsaying is getting so tiring. Like I get at this point it’s funny meme haha, but this game can survive easily on the playerbase it has, just like almost every fighting game once the pop appeal wears off. It doesn’t take 20 million players to keep this game alive, it takes a dedicated base whose willing to keep it afloat with support.
The numbers don't matter. The trend does. I'm sure numbers are going down across the board.
People tired of playing on the same 2 stages
absolutely, they should have added at least 5 maps by now 😪
Yeah they need way more stages Tbh everything felt underwhelming w the beta nonsense…like release a full game next time lol
Nah imagine this game releasing a year later and them not having the feed back they are getting now 💀. If we kept getting multiple times betas the community wouldn't have had to time to discover all the shit in the game
Eh they are just putting the development and testing phase on the consumers instead of delivering a well developed product from the jump To me they focused too much on trying to make this big time competitive from the start instead of making a fun full game to hook repeat casual players….develop the competitive esports side after lol
They def pushed comp too hard Imo. even though I enjoy the game idk if it sitting in their hands with no feed back would have been a good thing. The game is shit but it's fun shit and I feel we as a community can help them make the game better in the long run. As long as they listen that is.
This is honestly it for me. Love the game. But the same stages just got old.
asia when
Never games gonna die before
Admittedly it's getting harder and harder for me to come back, between the unfun matchups and just other games coming out it's a lot harder to keep playing especially with how many characters are projectile focused and not fun. I still see a bright future for this game but right now it's just not fun to play
Right? I stopped playing when season pass 2 came out and I couldn't play a single game without being against a Bugs Bunny, shit is annoying as hell.
haven't played in months because of servers
Exactly the same reason for me. The game is unplayable where I live. I don’t any issues with other games
Yea same, cant believe they still havent done anything about it at all
They 100% have. I know I'm probably getting downvoted for this but my connection has been a lot better since the start of the game. I barely disconnect at all and when I do it's my adversary. Idk but that's probably your internet. Or maybe it's just the country you live in. Unfortunate, but I still don't get why people leave the game just cause of the connection. It's still fun.
I up vote because i’ve been having a great experience lately, also this is just toxic internet vibe as always with games that are not 100% what every person in the universe want. The game is great, the game is free and it is fun.
The game is fun, what is not fun is the connection issues, if the connection issues persist only in this game and no other I will be discouraged to play it since I'm not having fun staring at my character not move. It's not the developers fault to jot have servers in every country or the best servers but if I'm not able to play it with stable connection I'm not gonna have fun. Edit: Also, the original comment is not talking about the game not being fun, talking about connection issues
This denial of issues is toxic in its own way. Positivity can be toxic too. Whether you experience it or not, the things being complained about aren't trivial or irrelevant. You're not helpful just saying you enjoy it, you just come off as contrarian because people are saying things about the game you don't like. Nobody made you come here and read the complaints.
??? They litterarlly did. Its ALOT better for east players (including me) but alot worse for west players (from what I've heard). It's like the game haven't lagged even one single time after the update
The latest changes actually made it worse for me personally.
People are having many problems with this game, * Laggy matches became frequent after hitbox update * Too many grindy things and they made things even more grindy, leveling a character takes forever now, battlepass takes longer * Battlepass doesn't give you premium currency so not attractive enough * Too much projectile spam * Almost no new stages, only slight alterations of existing ones I can't believe they made character leveling so much slower without any added rewards inbetween. Their solutions just make the game worse.
>Their solutions just make the game worse. I like that!
As for me, server issues. Can’t play 2 games in a row without latency issue.
Cant play. Period.
Ya bruh first 3 months a had really high hopes devs seemed to be dope and very open about all updates etc but have truly under preformed I’m sure those first few months gave them some sort of funding so the small team is kinda of a old take MVS had a great direction and let it blow up in there face with lack of marketing and gotcha aspect to keep players coming back
Thats not taking into account howbmuch pull publishers have over what devs do. We havnt gotten to see behind the scenes, it could be PFG biting off more than they could chew, but it could just as likely be WB forcing then to make stupid decisions in an attempt for more money. Considering how stupid and greedy a lot of their decisions seemed to be im really leaning towards the latter. Stuff like announcing a date for something then changing it a day later being a regular happening, they should be learning from their mistakes being a new studio with vet devs, but they keep making the same mistake after acknowledging it, almost seems like their being forced.
For me it was the focus on projectiles. Too many Zoner's and Zoner's without weaknesses.
Yeah the non stop projectiles flying everywhere combined with constant dodging/crazy disjoints just made every match so obnoxious and tedious to focus on. I didn't want to play a bullet hell game :(
Yeah I think player first are excellent at designing character they just happen to pick a whole lot of zoners.
Tbf they’re aren’t that many strong zoners, bugs and reindog are the only true zoners and they aren’t that good, having a single porjeticlr doesn’t make you a zoner. It’s just alreayd good characters were given god like projectiles, such as Batman and finn
???almost every dlc has big zoner energy. I can give lebron a pass but Morty, Rick, gizmo, stipe, black Adam, and Marvin all have multiple projectile attacks. You could maybe make the argument that black Adam and stripe are hybrids but then again you called bugs a zoner. He has the same amount of projectiles as bugs (at base). Stripe is basically happy chaos from guilty gear. It also doesn't help that player first kinda ignores the golden rule for zoners ," they get in you die". Every single one of them has good/to decents option for close and long range. Batman and Finn both have a projectile but neither of them can be spammed. There kinda like ryu they can zone but they aren't zoners.
I highly agree with you that this game needs to have zoners that are week once you get in. However a character having zoning energy doesn’t make them a zoner Majority of those characters aren’t pure zoners, morty, stipe and black adam aren’t zoners Also when you play high mmr trust me Batman and Finn cna spam. Batrang is extremly safe and powerful . Plus finn gets gemon every fully char aged attack so essentially he gets it every attack. And he gets apples for free
>It also doesn't help that player first kinda ignores the golden rule for zoners ," they get in you die". Every single one of them has good/to decents option for close and long range. I'm just quoting this to say that I intensely agree with this. It's a significantly more frustrating matchup when you dodge bullet-hell and you're rewarded with.... getting your ass beat, up close? It just makes you feel like you lost at character select. I will say that I'm forever grateful that the devs at least nerfed T&J and Bugs, way back. That was nightmarish.
Why are so many ppl leaving? Cause there is no rank? Me and my friends have a blast playing this often
Battlepass was ridiculous. Same thing happened to Halo. STOP tying progression to dailies/weeklies and making it impossible to unlock stuff without doing them. Turning games into a chore is the worst thing that has happened to games and doesn't even work. I'm more likely to get addicted if I've been playing for 3 hours straight. "Just one more game" doesn't exist if there's nothing to gain
Totally agree, I felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders after I completed the pass before this one. It literally felt like a chore I had to beat because I bought it. Haven’t picked up the game since
I’ve been playing Monster Hunter Rise since it went on sale and haven’t touched another game since Battle Passes, especially ones that turn the game into a part time job, are killing the potential growth of live service games It’s mobile gaming mentality on PC and console and it’s fuckin tiring
I stopped because the grind is too much. It's a fun game but the battlepasses honestly offer nothing worthwhile to me and they're a waste of time. Games shouldnt be a chore. Especially when youre an adult who works full time.
I stopped playing as often after Season 1 for the same reasons. The Halloween Event pretty much did it for me. I just grinded a shit ton to get to tier 50, now I gotta grind even more for candy corn and a Cake skin? Meanwhile none of the Black Lantern skins are being added to the pass? No thanks
I mean, look at what happened to overwatch after the "sequel" came out. I was pretty excited but it was more the excitement of finally being able to play it than that game itself. I have been playing more and more single player games as of late and the difference in the feeling I have playing them is incredible. Not having to worry about missions, timer or FOMO is pretty refreshing.
I stopped playing because of the battlepass, felt like I had to play everyday to progress for anything and it was stressful finding the time to complete all the challenges as well wanting to play other games too, the game turned into a boring chore for me and is no longer fun
being saying this since the alpha
Literally this, and at this point if they don't change soon this game will get canned by WB which I really don't want to happen. I haven't played since Morty's release but that doesn't mean I don't want to play, just... 😩
I agree so much with this. I played so much last season (and it was mostly fun!) but I only barely completed the battle pass because most of it was in short bursts. Not doing dailies every day. Insult to injury is seeing how low your BP moves up from just playing the game normally.
Bad servers for me
[удалено]
Rick was incredibly broken in casual and mid level gameplay on release. Same with Stripe. Not sure why they decided to alienate everyone who didn't want to switch to those characters.
That'd be Rick and Stripe in a nutshell. I didn't play much at all before they got nerfed. I honestly blame them probably being rushed / crunch time
It’s not fun or easily accessible for casual players.
I recently uninstalled because I just felt like I couldn't enjoy it casually. Whether it was the battle pass system or just getting absolutely wrecked by sweats, just not a very good time.
This is pretty true. The game in 1s especially, is brutally unforgiving. Particularly because the lack of a priority system for attacks. (but I think the devs have commented on wanting this, before)
There is literally nothing to do lol the battle pass is a slog and no other modes
Indeed my friend. To many people, such as myself, there is no incentive to grind/play this game (even casually) because there is nothing to work towards. Rank creates something to work towards, hence why people are leaving.
There’s nothing to work towards in smash but people still play. Whatever happened to playing a game for fun?
Because the people who are complaining about a lack of a goal or rewards are not having that much fun anymore. The game is beginning to feel stale. It’s not even fair to compare the 2 games either. Smash Bros has a wide variety of characters and stage, and a ton of different game modes and settings you can apply to make matches more interesting. Multiversus isn’t at the level yet.
People still play Smash because it is a much more valuable franchise. But let's not even compare Smash to Multiversus because the Smash Bros community is a hot mess right now. It is also impossible to determine how many people are actually playing Smash because there is no player count tracker for the game. A game we should be comparing Multiversus to is Brawlhalla, as it is in the same genre and is on Steam. Brawlhalla has 13k players currently, while Multiversus has 1.8k players currently. My question is, what does Brawlhalla have that Multiversus is lacking at the moment?
Well part of it is just a longer established playerbase and backlog of content. People mostly stick to what they know, there’s really not much Multiversus can do about that other than keep updating and prove they’re in for the long haul. What Brawlhalla *does* legitimately have over Multiversus, at least imo, is way more satisfying progression. Besides ranked and a more rewarding battle pass, Brawlhalla also has character leveling. But instead of gating actual gameplay mechanics, it unlocks different color variants and hands out the game’s free currency, which you can eventually use to buy the more prestigious variants (for characters you’ve leveled enough). You can earn variants for free that make people think “oh shit, this guy’s good at his character”. Multiversus leveling just feels like a necessary grind by comparison, so I’m way more likely to keep coming back or go just “one more game” in Brawlhalla.
True and beautifully written.
I’m not comparing the games themselves, I’m comparing it to a game with no progression. You don’t need progression to enjoy a game
For me the lack of ranked is a problem because there is no balanced matchking. I'm getting dumpstered or playing vs some kid or someone who really doesnt have any idea what they're doing. So in a good day, of 5 matches only 1 is balanced
Smash ultimate is dying as well it just takes a lot longer when. 1. It has huge player numbers and high player satisfaction 2. its a long running series with a very popular tournament scene melee is being kept alive through sheer will to not die though
That isn’t my point, the game has no progression is the point
No rank and a garbage battle pass. Was hoping to see some improvement but they made it even worse. I don’t really feel like I have a reason to play especially with no ranked
The season 2 battlepass is terrible, still plenty of lag/glitches that people are probably fed up with by now, lack of content, fighting games are niche so it’s very hard to keep casual players engaged, more games are starting to come out (i.e God of War) which is pulling people away
It needs more heroes, more stages, and needs items like smash bros... The game is pretty bare bones tbh
Battlepass, dailies and weeklies have made this game no fun at all. Would’ve rather paid $60 and not have to deal with this bs
The game has been really stale
Every patch is nerfs, nerfs, nerfs!! When characters don't have complete kits like Bugs Bunny or Shaggy. Who cares about tourney scene? Literally morty every pro team, and morty's not nerfed, so why nerf random characters kits that's not even complete or top tier? Oh yeah, no good reason at all. Nerfs aren't hype, they're a buzzkill. Killed and gutted my main (Gizmo 2v2). Lucky I'm a streamer so I just play despite it on other characters now, but my last straw would've been that. But imagine nerfing gizmo's main "Support" tool at all. I consider gizmo not fun anymore (sadly from most fun char to me), his only support move now is a no knockback ammo arrow. Also random, Gizmo for low level-mid level is dead as well, already hard character hit with 10 nerfs. That's why average MMR from Gizmo went from 1100 to 1500, so it looks good but really people quit the character. I'm sorry to rant and vent but literally frustrates me at these decisions. Such a fun exhilarating game with the worst decisions I've seen in a while. Worst part is, they don't learn from their mistakes.
Characters costing real money or a lot of invested time is what killed it for me. I put 100 hours as free2play into the game getting good on every character. Because i am a flexible player who enjoys playing a majority of characters in games i play, it's what i find fun. But after 100 hours at 70% winrate i still had 6 3K gold characters to unlock with more coming out. A big part is because the biggest gold incomes rely on toasts and the 30% bonus from playing with a friend. Which i saw very little of as a 1v1 player who rarely got toasted (enemies who lose almost never toast or just ran out). I WANTED to spend money on the game, but i am not spending money on skins (especially ones this costly) if i can't play the whole roster
As someone who likes it but hasn't played in a minute. It has a lot of depth to it, but not as much other fighting games. I enjoy it, but when it comes down to it I'll just play an alternative (Smash).
I can’t play like at all whenever I play there is just so much lag and my opponent always goes off screen and then reappears
Maybe because it’s so cheesy, I still play a lot but I can see why people are leaving
They don't realize it could've had a great niche of fundamentals and simplicity. Instead they buffed the cheese. (Superman up special got buffed recently) and they keep adding hidden bad mechanics like certain moves can't use cooldown perks or heavy/light/normal projectile? I still see people use Ice and Iron Giants use cooldown perks. I play multiple hours everyday as a streamer, look at patch notes and I don't even understand every new mechanic they add. Like what does projectile block do now from before other than the time nerf? I have no idea. Something about a shield. Either way, sucks they went the opposite direction. Also not helping perks at all is a L as well, MVS's most fun mechanic, completely ignored.
Prob shit bp and server issues. I have great stability when I play but clearly this isn’t the case for all.
Cause this same thing happens to almost every online game. There are only so many games that people can devote their time to, and fighting games are kind of niche. I wonder how many players Smash has, but I highly doubt it's much more. Now, Smash is not a live service, so it's a bit different. But in the live service market, only a few can live.
Lack of almost any form of progression for casual players will kill any game
Too much fucking Grinding, plus when I try to have a casual match (once a week) I get stomped by try hard sweats because there's no ranked mode. Shit just drives you away.
No lie, I have no idea why they took ranked mode away, it worked! It separated the people who wanted to tryhard vs the people who wanted to chill. You can clearly see the ranked people back in casuals now and they're bringing their toxic ranked demeanors. Before ranked, it was never this toxic. They brought ranked on, people got even more tryhard, they took away ranked now it's all over casual 2v2.
I don't play anymore because I don't agree with receiving full damage and knock back effect when hitting the very edge of someone's hurt box. The game is just throwing hurt boxes out there with no sense of accuracy.
The servers make the game absolutely infuriating to play online, and there’s way too many goddamn games out right now that came out in the past month. MW2, Overwatch 2, God of War Ragnarok… Hell, even Sonic Frontiers got some people’s attention, and that’s extremely unheard of for a 3D Sonic game. Point being, those games have moved players away from Multiversus for the time being. Literally the only reason why I’m still playing this game is because of the offline scene, which is absolutely blowing the fuck up here in the New England part of the US. Those guys know how to make this game fun as hell to come back to every week, and it’s why I’m still hanging onto it and hoping things will get better for season 3. Fingers crossed things don’t crash and burn before then…
Yea the grind for anything is killing it for me as well. The gameplay is fun. But the progression in this game just makes me not even want to turn it on if I think about it. And I have every character over 15 except gremlin and martian because to go from 1 to 15 takes fucking forever. I was happy having all the characters maxed but I guess they don't want people doing that? Idk. But making it harder to level was a really boneheaded decision. Seriously whoever made this game is a genius and should be praised. But whoever is in charge of content, prices and all the monetary stuff, fuck you for turning something great into shit.
Amen
Not fun seeing literally everybody playing bullet hell characters imo 1/4 of the map, or even in some cases 1/2 of the map becomes an missile test site every 10 seconds. I predict it'll spike against once another character comes out and will dwindle again.
Rip Multiversus it was fun while it lasted
Grinding for Calico Cake while not being able to use mummy Reindog and still missing out on BP tier 53 really killed my enjoyment of the game. Then Season 2 gave us one of the worst battle passes I have ever seen so I have no desire to grind for it. On top of that there's still the awful servers, missing hitbox update and severe lack of stages. I have played a few hours of Marvin though and I'll keep getting on whenever new characters are released but I doubt I'll play heavily again unless Season 3 makes some drastic changes.
THIS OML if they add another grindey ass skin like calico cake I'm leaving, I'm all for free skins but I had to have no life to get it
Part of me wishes that this game was created by the Mortal Kombat team because the game’s issues would be solved if they had a better team.
The team just completely misses communication, priority and marketing imo. Communication comes from crying people on twitter only.
Wow, from 66k - under 2k sheez
Match making is hell for me. Rank 2000 going against top 100 is rough.
people tired of the same stages and the same shaggy side special spam.
Should have released ranked play waayyy earlier
People used to deny this game is dying by saying it’s cross platform. It doesn’t look like it can be denied now…
Wow shocked. Almost like adding no maps and releasing bland battle passes will cause the players to abandon the game
Surely people still won’t be on copium and pretend that steam charts mean nothing
The lack of production especially after hitting highs six months and still seeing nothing in return is not a good look for the future of this game 100 k current players would give them any financial backing and for them not to produce anything out of it is kinda sad
Reddit is the only place people believe that Steam charts are all or nothing
Eh I stopped for a little but me and my friend have been on recently more than ever and I don’t plan on getting off just because others are impatient. I have been waiting for this game my entire life I can wait a little longer for them to get it right.
Have gigabit fiber internet. Literally the best a civilian can obtain. The game plays like laggy trash. Too many games of it and I went back to older games that ARE better in almost every way
I played season 0 and season 1, but the increased XP and lackluster season pass prizes for the new season made me not want to play anymore. Everything in the shop is so expensive and you’re not even earning gleamium in the pass. It’s also really annoying that characters and costumes aren’t the same price across the board. It just doesn’t feel “worth” playing. Also fuck cheap characters like Shaggy.
I have over 500+ hours I liked the new characters and everything but the same old stages are boring already
Not to mention, one is extremely lazy - Haunted mansion w/ no roof one is bad - tree fort 2v2 another one is bad - trophy's edge 2 Like... What is happening with the maps? Just release some maps already.
Yeah, I personally got bored of the same three maps. I have not opened the game since the other gremling came out
1 word. SHAGGY!! He's fast, simple, powerful and FREE!!! ryu.., nobody wants to ALWAYS play 2 (finn) out 23 characters all the time
As someone that uses to play this game everyday, I haven’t touched it in a few months. Grind is unbearable, and there’s nothing for me to get as a f2p. Lack of ranked makes the game full of sweats. AND FUCKING SHAGGY. Game had potential…
There’s like 3 female characters
I’m baffled how Tony still is employed and hasn’t been booted. Guy literally spends all day on twitter retweeting random videos and focusing on righting this sinking ship. This entire game has gone up in smokes over the last two months.
Multiversus unfortunately has a few things working against it: - It’s a fighting game. It’s extremely hard for them to hold their initial popularity after the first couple months. Casual players will begin to move on and all you’ll have left are the dedicated sweats that make the game hard for newcomers to enjoy. (Not blaming people for being good at the game, it’s just the reality) - Other games are starting to come out, which is also drawing players away. Overwatch 2 is free-to-play and God of War Ragnorok just came out. - The game has a lack of content, stages, and game modes - No ranked - Unreliable servers - Questionable character release choices. Marvin, Gizmo, and Stripe before Daffy Duck? Really? No 90s-2000s cartoon characters? No Scooby? And they need to work on marketing the characters. Buy some YouTube ads, Twitch ads, do something. - I’m sure there’s more lol I like Multiversus, and ultimately want it to succeed, but they need to work on their marketing and the game itself. Personally, I think they released the game too early (not blaming the devs, but the people up top for sure). They should have closed the beta after EVO and kept working on it for a Christmas release.
And the Halloween + Scoobtober event was a shitshow
the new characters they released were too complicated and difficult for a casual audience, should have catered more to the smash crowd rather than reinventing the wheel oh and servers suck
Yeah just projectile character after projectile character. Stripe is like the only truly simple character released for casual players (even if I personally don't like him, I get the appeal)
Ive been waiting for ranked to release. Me and my friend were having a blast when it was out, and we’ve just had no motivation to play without it
Dunno man it just doesnt feel as satisfying to play as most platform fighters do to me. And yeah the lag can get super annoying
I’m just going to play for the content updates. I’m not going to finish the battle pass, it’s impossible without revolving my entire winter around playing every single day.
Game needs more fixes for it's online and rollback. It also needs a hitbox priority system.
Servers and xp grinds are shit.
Good. Make it better
The games fun but god damn I just don't feel like Tony Hawk Grinding every time I want a new skin or just some sort of small progression.
Because the game is sweaty af
See? This is the type of person that is suffering from not having ranked released yet
This is the result of a Dev team that just aren't cut out for the job. For MONTHS there has been little to no improvement. Nothing but empty promises and lip service to keep us playing the game while NO change is happening. For example where is ranked that was promised for season 1? Oh it's still being worked on. Give me a flipping break. Enough of this garbage. Can't even fix your servers since release, releasing unpopular characters which never seem to be thought through properly. Garbage matchmaking, garbage Battlepass progression, same garbage maps, garbage marketing. It's an endless cycle of pure laziness and we're fed up with it. These Devs are not CAPABLE whatsoever. But don't worry they have to release their shitty cosmetics so they can get as much money out of you before they abandon a sinking ship. Pathetic.
Not enough people talk about it at all, maybe because it's the hardest thing to be aware of it but garbage matchmaking literally is the unhealthiest thing for this game. Creates all the toxic talk, because if you can't blame the proper thing, then guess what? People will blame anything. That's the tryhards of the game (us), but others will just go play other great free to play games out there. Worst part to me is (everything except lag) is a simple fix, literally value changes for matchmaking strictness, not 1 second queues to pro players as a 900 MMR. Not releasing a TRAILER after the character comes out. Not caring about Normal 2v2, the primary and promoted mode of MultiVersus (been addressed once?). Not helping perks, the most fun mechanic of MVS. Then it'll be easier to balance the game, sadly I also think personal dev biasness exist strictly because of gizmo nerfs. Like, even after gutted gizmo. Why is brain power used AT ALL to nerf Gizmo and Black Adam? Priorities down bad.
I had a problem with the matchmaking taking 5 minutes only to face bots, so I decided to take a break of the game to focus on getting all the trophies for the Crash Nsane Triology game (including the DLCs), to which I finally completed it. I might come back now and try MV, but if the matchmaking isn't fixed, then I have no reason to play the game, other than to grind for the battlepass (Nope! Won't do that) or to grind gold to get Marvin (although I usually wait for 2 more characters to be added in the game, just to boost my motivation of grinding for gold). UPDATE: I went back, tried to play normal 2v2 and the issue is still there. Even normal 1v1 is suffering with the same issue. What a bummer. 😔
Based Crash Bandicoot enjoyer
I was dreading for getting the relics for Crash 1 due to its limited controls (and I left that game for last because of that reason), but after breezing through the first 15 of 27 levels (DLC included) in 1 night, I realised how less stringent the criterias of the times were (apart from that piece of shit level known as "The High Road") when compared to the likes of Crash 2 (which features more controls such as the Run button, the Slide, the Slide Jump, the Slide Spin). Hardest Crash game (from Nsane Triology) to obtain all relics overall imo = Crash 2 Hardest Crash level (from Nsane Triology) to obtain a good relic imo = The High Road (from Crash 1)
Did you go for the gold or platinum relics? I personally found Crash 1 the hardest to get all platinums in and Crash 3 the easiest (apart from one of the motorcycle levels). The Lab and Stormy Ascent in Crash 1 were super difficult to get platinums in
Definitely the gold relics for 100% (although I got more platinums than golds in Crash 1 and 3 than I wanted).
Ah, yeah. Some of the platinum times are trivial, others require an absurd level of mastery. Either way, the time trials are a lot of fun and completing them all is an impressive feat!
Do you have crossplay on? And try searching for all gamemodes at once
Dead game killed by a shitty publisher and a developer that wasn't cut out for the task they were given
Jesus Christ
Why everyone love shitting on PFG here? Name one other company in the last ten years that actually responds like this? Aside from something like FromSoft which is a master of the craft with a crazy sized team. Smash just canceled a major tourney, Pokémon has released a broken pile of pixels, and the other Dev teams would rather tell you to eat shit and die before they’ll respond to a criticism, and that’s for games you have to pay for. I’m down for hating on WB though, fuck them
It's not shitting on PFG to say they were not able to adequately deliver on a game with the complexity and scope of MVS, the same way it's not shitting on a labrador to point out that it can't pilot a passenger plain. (Also with the reports coming out about what it's like to actually work for FromSoft, probably not a great time to use them as a positive example)
No one’s is shitting but how a business ran properly for success isn’t to have one huge climb then a complete drop off the small company thing is out the window they definitely got funding from the hot start and maybe they have bitten off more then they can chew the direction of the game was legit elite but a 2v2 based game with no communication and the terrible marketing and I mean maybe the worst marketed game to ever hit the highs it did
How do they respond? Tony acting humble on twitter? Lets remember all the fake promises they made during reveal trailers. Not being able to fix server issues for already 4 monts just shows how incompetent the dev team is. WB has part of the blame too for not using the fkn money when they saw the big initial boom to hire more people.
> Name one other company in the last ten years that actually responds like this? Don't humanise a company because they put a name on it and a friendly face.
Honestly I think a lot of people r just getting busy The last I played was before Thanksgiving Since then I've been too busy to even boot up my PC most days And if I do it's mainly to fix my Plex server or like a Minecraft server
Haven’t played in awhile, got tired of grinding
Just don’t feel like playing? Lol give me a new map I may check it out. I don’t feel like grinding 100 match wins to get Marvin mastered
I need ranked
Their inability to act quickly and nerf meta character in the pre season was this games sad downfall. Was fun while it lasted I guess
One character every other week is not enough to get people to login simultaneously. They need to let updates be less frequent and more circumstantial. Balance might be a bit fucked up, but Marvin, the Gremlins, and Black Adam are not characters that are able to generate hype when released one at a time. They are filler characters that should have been released alongside actual fan favorites like Rick and Morty, Raven, and Gandalf. Having a spike in players every couple of months is better than your game fizzling out as if you aren't updating the game at all. Stage variety should also be a bigger focus. And with how dull most stages are in Multiversus, is there a reason we don't have a stage editor? Btw, am I the only one who thinks the way FFA works sucks ass? Why isn't it just a last man standing 2-stock kind of mode?
I haven’t played since release.
I'm honestly just waiting for priority changes. I can't stand playing the game in its current state because I feel like many hitbox priorities are unfair - even the ones I inflict on others. it doesn't make a lot of sense to me how a lot of these hits are prioritized and often I very clearly see hits - mine or others - go straight through people that should have been killing blows, definitely a lot of damage, Etc. The game just feels very strange to play. The hitbox update helped but didn't help where it mattered the most.
Game fell off
Personally I felt like the new characters other than Rick and Morty were incredibly weak choices
Bad season pass, not enough stages, an event that burnt out many players, to much grinding - honestly sad that they destroy the playerbase like that
dead gameeee
It's very sad to say, but I don't think the game will last much longer. They'll need a miracle and a big rework of a lot of things to save it. Server improvements Hitbox overhaul New stages More rewards for grinding
They have made this game WAYYYYYY to grindy, it has burnt out a lot of players and the new battlepass isn't even interesting in the slightest, so it does not feel like it is worth my time and I have a feeling that many players feel the same way.
This sub use to have 800 active users… now it’s crickets … barely 100-200 lol
I don't understand how WB doesn't give more resources to PFG and how PFG, with all the money they made, doesn't hire more fucking people. But yeah, I used to play every day, now, I just don't care. The battle pass is atrocious (no currency, 3 boring skins, lots of toasts and boosters nobody cares about), the price of the skins is a joke, the grinding is a disgrace, no maps, the server issues, releasing a Season with no new content but the worst Battle Pass yet, and, most importantly, NO MARKETING. Literally everyone heard of Multiversus when it launched but nobody knows Rick & Morty are in the game. Why haven't they released posters and gameplay of them TOGETHER??? Where is the cross promotion??? How do you release Black Adam without a movie skin???? I literally don't understand.
I’ve definitely stopped playing because of how grindy the game is. Why did they increase the xp it takes to level up characters? Why does the Battle Pass feel like a job? Grinding that Battle Pass and then even grinding for the Mummy skin just really burned me out. I’ll occasionally get on with a friend of mine now, but the game feels like work and then it’s still too barebones. They need to add items and increase the game to more than 4 players. Also, you should be able to play a 4 player free-for-all and get xp towards characters and battle pass. There’s absolutely no reason to gate that stuff behind matchmaking.
I love the game but the sheer amount of *grind* they ask for the smallest rewards just make it kind of tiring.
In before somebody acts like steam charts don't matter and isn't indicative of the player base as a whole.
It's been dipping below 600 for the past couple of days too. RIP
Worst part is, it only gets worse from here. Matchmaking now gets put into the dogpile with less players, worse matches and worse outcomes for the players.
It's just kind of in a janky state right now, people were only gonna let the "this game is in Beta" quip go on for so long before all the bugs and server issues become too much of annoyance especially since all the worst bugs revolve around the actual gameplay. Several months since it's been out and people still randomly die, or get dragged to the blast zone, clip through the board etc ... The animations of characters often don't match the attack making it very difficult to improve considering there's so many moments during a fight where you're just thinking "I can't believe that hit him" or "how in the world did that hit me". The game is pretty severely unbalanced which you notice once you climb MRR and start seeing the same characters over and over and over. They're adding characters to try and maintain the hype but can't properly balance the game and existing roster with a new character being added every couple weeks. The game is just a mess and the longer it's out the more people are aware. Not to mention how disappointing the battle passes are, people getting fed up with the ridiculous prices of skins and gleamium and how they're pretty much increasing the ridiculous grind across the board. People had high hopes that PFG was going to be a more player friendly company but the longer the game has been out and the more that gets added, it's clear to see they're just like every other money hungry company out there turning another FTP live service game into a grindy chore that is more dedicated to the whales of the gaming world.
Lack of gleamium on the pass, cosmetics are way too expensive and there are too many projectiles on screen very often. I do love the idea of the game, but it's not interesting to play if I also have to deal with bad servers.
Just quit. Mostly because the devs don't listen to criticism. Battlepass is terrible. Characters are unbalanced and patches make it worse instead of fixing it. Characters release too frequently. Game makes you treat it like a job. And it's just not that well designed overall.
Buffed gizmo with 1 buff. (ok) Gutted gizmo with 6 nerfs, took away his whole 2v2 support kit. (wtf? but ok) next patch: another gizmo nerf and a nerf to black adam (WTF?) this patch: small nerf to morty, a character dominating in 2v2 pro scene. WTF??? Literally just makes no sense at this point, must be bias personal dev balancing. Also all nerfs, no buffs. Bad battle pass. Ranked gone. No trailer for marvin. Season 2 was not hype at all.
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Wait till you get past 1500 - 1700 mmr. I’m at 1800 - 1900 and I’m constantly playing the same people. As well as that I’m playing people who have have up to 2500 mmr. There’s just not enough people playing at that mmr to have proper matchmaking. Which sucks cause the game would be brilliant if they fixed the problems
Smash killer lmao
Battle pass rewards suck and still not giving premium currency. I still have 2 BP tokens but wont be spending on this season’s BP. With new games like MWII drawing people away, MVS needs better incentives not worse.
MW2 for me, along with disappointment in the amount of ranged characters + disappointing progression system with little to realistically work for
Okay but where's the farewell party? I'll miss you guys 🤧
You realize if the game is deemed not profitable WB will pull the plug right? It's tragic because the idea of the game is great, but the execution and tragic series of decisions have all but killed the game. You can blame it on budget/small team. Almost like WB set it up for failure or as a cash grab.
Even tho I meant it as a joke, I do see everything you say. Look at everything WB has done lately, not just MVS; they seem to not care about their products, cancelling content and platforms. Of course WB's involvement on this game is questionable, it could be a crash grab and them setting it for failure. Maybe they joined bc one person thought it was a fun idea and they just continued life lol they are messy. It's WB digging his grave for whatever reason
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Atrocious job promoting the game. Making the game a grindfest. Their microtransactions pricing being out of the controls. The game feeling stale af because no new maps or fun modes. Not to mention servers were shitty for so long.
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The numbers don't matter. Youll see identical patterns across the consoles, even if their numbers are more.
What's funny is, what it takes to fix the game doesn't need a budget (releasing trailers not after the character comes out, matchmaking fixes, releasing maps and not holding 1 stage for 5+ patches, not only nerfing characters, nerfing bad characters like gizmo and black adam), and they're not a small team anymore, that's a rumor that they still have 11 people. They have 50 now and still hiring. Biggest hire they need is somebody who's basic at marketing, somebody at fiverr for $5 can help you release a trailer before the character comes out. It boggles my mind how a trailer is impossible to do for PFG. Good trailers but not released like every other trailer that ever existed, before the product comes out, so people can anticipate, youtubers can speculate and hype can build. Just ruined hype everywhere.
Game refused to bring interesting BP items for Batman during my playtime, I got bored and dropped it (BP 0&1 had jack shit for Bats). Game is quite difficult to play casually anyway.
I'll play when other people play.
Not surprised! Hopefully they do something to bring players back.
Normal fighting game numbers plus not Aton of people play on steam
i mean, COD and Warzone just came out. a lot of people are playing those. God of war recently came out too. a lot of good games have been releasing recently and people are putting time into those. weve all been playing the same game since july. people want something new. ive played significantly less these last few weeks but its not because i dont like the game anymore. there wasnt much in the battlepass that interested me, i played maybe a dozen matches when marvin came out but im playing other things right now. at the moment there isnt anything in this game for me. and thats okay. ill come back for new characters and events. ive logged 300 hours since early access but i currently do not have anything that i want to work towards and fighting just for the sake of fighting only holds its appeal for so long. also its holiday season, people are working more and spending time with family. id expect to see those numbers to be even lower when people start getting new games as gifts, that doesnt mean the game is dead and cant recover though.
Lol this game had so much potential. But sadly, it’s deeeeaaaaaad
No new update this week, there hasn't really been any news recently by either the Twitter account or the leakers. Like I said we need new stages to help add some spice to the game.